The best thing about coming home from football practice, basketball practice, baseball practice, cross country, etc. was lighting up and jamming with the band and playing at the local bars in late 70’s early 80’s. Todd was and always will be the north star and band leader of humanity🙏🙏🌴🌸🌻
When I was a kid, this was the most outrageous and unpopular music. Which was perfect, as far as I cared. I appreciated Todd's music from the beginning, but I never thought it would go this far. However...fine by me!
My 15 year old nephew ordered this album Initiation for Christmas. I wonder how he will react to Treatise? I think over a few listens he will realize the masterpiece of it. He became a huge fan of Rundgren after hearing Healing and Ever Popular albums. Now, he wants to eventually get all of Rundgren and Utopia albums.
This is Todd Rundgren's best ever creation. It is a fantastic, mind-blowing journey, combining some brilliant musical settings with incredible weird sounds - the deeper you travel into this, the deeper into a meditative, contemplative state you go...
@@tokingreens Shit... Powel, Moogy, M. Frog Labbat and the Fabulous Kevin Ellman were all involved on this Album.. but this particular song was Todd and Roger.. Roger no doubt was a most incredible find to add his expertise to not only this album but many after in the Utopia Run... BUT... most of the synthesizers on Initiation were played and programmed by Rundgren himself. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiation_(Todd_Rundgren_album)
I remember this as background pre-concert music played over the sound system for the audience for his first Utopia Concert in New Jersey back then. It got the crowd really pumped up.
Probably my favorite Todd album. This is the best electronic music ever. Listen to his guitar work at the beginning - brilliant. So underrated as a guitarist.
The word "Mind-blowing" comes to mind, but it will not blow your mind - it will expand it for different musical expression. Have the courage to listen through it. This was not made for commercial reasons. This may be a subconscious expression of an originator on multiple instruments. No meaning, no explanation, but a whole universe. Let it happen.
If there was any doubt about Todd’s place in and contribution to progressive rock, this composition will dispel all doubt. This firmly brings him in the forefront of what progressive rock is doing today. I hear some elements that remind me of some of the old prog works from Soft Machine, Caravan, and Hawkwind…but ultimately it is pure Todd Rundgren, there is a genius here. A True - A Wizard.
I dig your solar theme. And thank GOD someone has put this full length song up again on youtube. 10 videos that we have suffer through breaks in between is NOT going to cut it when listening to this masterpiece.
This was wonderful -- thank you for this. "Treatise On A Cosmic Fire" is my favorite of all Todd's music and I love a lot of Todd's music! I saw Todd in concert for the first time, I'm thinking in the 1975-1976 timeframe. I am not sure of the venue nor date -- it was in a college auditorium, probably in the greater St. Louis area. He came on stage with just a large reel-to-reel tape recorder and his guitar. He had recorded all the backing tracks onto the tape and then proceeded to play along with them. At first, I thought it was a little cheesy but finally realized what an intimate concert it made it. Towards the end he indicated that he'd acquired some videography equipment and was experimenting with creating animated videos. He played a couple of his videos for us and, as I recall, both were backed by excerpts from Treatise (as I recall, they involved animated robots engaged in a laser battle -- though I am really stretching the limits of my memory here). The colors in your video remind me a bit of Todd's videos. But most of all, I want to say how great it was to revisit Treatise in such a fun way. Thanks again.
I had tickets to see the man at the Alwych theatre in London, I was pregnant with my 2nd child, my dearest ex husband had a bath got out and decided to "touch his toes"!!!!, needless to say never got there as the twat hurt his back..... gutted was not the word and he paid big time.
This is album is 67 minutes and 34 seconds! This piece was Side 2. Todd has a warning about that and recommended recording it to tape and playing for that tape. I did not one and wore it out quickly. Eventually, I got a good cassette deck and start to record all my vinyl to CrO2 cassettes with Dolby type B noise reduction - better quality than any pre-recorded cassette on the market. I do not finish analog recording, not for one 0.00005 second (the length a 20 kHZ wave), The CD version has no problem.
One of the very few artists and tunes I've done a cover or tribute to (it's on my youtube channel). I listened to this record thousands of times probably. Todd outdid himself on this one.
This album was my favorite tripping music for years. When we put this on you knew the acid was going to be 10 times as good. Imagine if you will this song encapsulating you on a full moon in Joshua tree NP back then it was a monument with no gates fees or rangers. Thanks toodd
3 года назад
I guess everyone in the scene dropped some on this.
Some of the footage looks like it’s originally from the video The Ever Popular Tortured Artist Effect- I had this video in 1986 when I was living in Palm Springs CA
2 года назад
I have about 10 Todd DVD's and there is some TEPTAE footage in there.
Clichematic, this certainly was a labor of love for you to make this. How many hours did you spend on it, I wonder? Todd's music inspired me to go to college and study theatre-lights, sets and costumes. I never did get to NY city, it wouldn't have been the right thing for me. However, after Healing came out, that's exactly what I got into. Nowadays, a new type of healing is necessary, and I can see the use of vibration and sound will be our answer to a lot of health questions such as cymatics that might break this spell our people are under. Thank you for sharing this. Pass this along friends, hopefully it inspires the next generations to do something or anything with.
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I spend so many hours on making Todd clips, this one was not the most labour intensive because there was a lot of recycle footage I used from other clips I made. But thanks for the appreciation!
@ but what was the process - do you start with real footage and apply effects to it? Or are you doing some generative art in processing or something? Which software do you use - I've not seen anything like it before!
2 года назад
@@WeirdSide Yes I'm using real footage and mangle it by layering it 10 times with different effects, I use a simple video editing program
Really? Dude, I became Todd fan in 72 because of AWATS. I was on the computer card poster that came out in Todd album, always scouring record shops for bootlegs etc. I was criticising business model that catered to lowest common denominator fan who was always screaming for hello it’s me at concerts.
This album was recorded with creative assistance from Roger Powell (whose solo albums- before he was with Utopia- included Cosmic Furnace- very much cerebral just as this piece is)
![Utopia - Disco Jets [FULL Album] (1976)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wOPMq8Qu_uM/mqdefault.jpg)
The best thing about coming home from football practice, basketball practice, baseball practice, cross country, etc. was lighting up and jamming with the band and playing at the local bars in late 70’s early 80’s. Todd was and always will be the north star and band leader of humanity🙏🙏🌴🌸🌻
Right!
When I was a kid, this was the most outrageous and unpopular music. Which was perfect, as far as I cared. I appreciated Todd's music from the beginning, but I never thought it would go this far. However...fine by me!
That's the spirit!
My 15 year old nephew ordered this album Initiation for Christmas. I wonder how he will react to Treatise? I think over a few listens he will realize the masterpiece of it. He became a huge fan of Rundgren after hearing Healing and Ever Popular albums. Now, he wants to eventually get all of Rundgren and Utopia albums.
Good to hear
I’ve lessened to Todd all my life and I love him I’m 69 years old man. I’ve seen lots of concerts of Todd’s over the years
I'm also a 50 year fanboy
There's never a last great Todd creation .
A genius
@@michaelhaniotes36 and a true star
I'm 72 and still tripping on this marvel. Thanks Todd for adding this to my extraordinary musical journey!
Age is not important.
Now if you got a pair of headphones ya might want to get em out and get em Cranked up,cause you'r really gonna need em on this one !!!
Here we go
As psychedelic a piece of music as I've ever heard. This and Spark Of Life. Absolutely Vast music. Nothing else comes close ❤
Glad you like it!
This, the Healing suite and The International Feel In 8/A True Star are incredible suites. Initiation is so long but so good!
Glad you like it!
This is Todd Rundgren's best ever creation. It is a fantastic, mind-blowing journey, combining some brilliant musical settings with incredible weird sounds - the deeper you travel into this, the deeper into a meditative, contemplative state you go...
Glad your so enthousiastic about it
I love it too but it is largely Roger Powell...
@@tokingreens Shit... Powel, Moogy, M. Frog Labbat and the Fabulous Kevin Ellman were all involved on this Album.. but this particular song was Todd and Roger.. Roger no doubt was a most incredible find to add his expertise to not only this album but many after in the Utopia Run... BUT... most of the synthesizers on Initiation were played and programmed by Rundgren himself. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiation_(Todd_Rundgren_album)
@@michaellawrencemaag7480 Yes, didn't mean to take anything away from Todd. Glad you love it as much as I do.
I often think: this tune is too short. Esp the parts with the guitar. I love his guitar playing.
Whatever, this tune is never too long.
Glad you like it
I remember this as background pre-concert music played over the sound system for the audience for his first Utopia Concert in New Jersey back then. It got the crowd really pumped up.
Wow, didn't know that.
Oh yeah! I remember that too. Once that came on you knew the wait was just about over. ⚡
Another beautiful song. I got 3 tickets to see Todd on 19 June with my son and grandson, he has never been to a concert
Have fun!
Probably my favorite Todd album. This is the best electronic music ever. Listen to his guitar work at the beginning - brilliant. So underrated as a guitarist.
He's a great guitarist!
The word "Mind-blowing" comes to mind, but it will not blow your mind - it will expand it for different musical expression. Have the courage to listen through it. This was not made for commercial reasons. This may be a subconscious expression of an originator on multiple instruments. No meaning, no explanation, but a whole universe. Let it happen.
Well said
If there was any doubt about Todd’s place in and contribution to progressive rock, this composition will dispel all doubt. This firmly brings him in the forefront of what progressive rock is doing today. I hear some elements that remind me of some of the old prog works from Soft Machine, Caravan, and Hawkwind…but ultimately it is pure Todd Rundgren, there is a genius here. A True - A Wizard.
Exactly
Amazing to live in the same time as Todd. To experience it all. I was a musician but i stopped. Todd brought me back
never stop
@ thank you
Rundgren masterpiece!!! Thank you Clichématic for the superb video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Clichematic, thank you for not monetizing this video.
So perfectly Todd.
Why does this sound better than all of the new music I heard this year???!!!
It's Todd I guess
Because it is better. It really is.
I dig your solar theme. And thank GOD someone has put this full length song up again on youtube. 10 videos that we have suffer through breaks in between is NOT going to cut it when listening to this masterpiece.
Glad you like it
This was wonderful -- thank you for this. "Treatise On A Cosmic Fire" is my favorite of all Todd's music and I love a lot of Todd's music! I saw Todd in concert for the first time, I'm thinking in the 1975-1976 timeframe. I am not sure of the venue nor date -- it was in a college auditorium, probably in the greater St. Louis area. He came on stage with just a large reel-to-reel tape recorder and his guitar. He had recorded all the backing tracks onto the tape and then proceeded to play along with them. At first, I thought it was a little cheesy but finally realized what an intimate concert it made it. Towards the end he indicated that he'd acquired some videography equipment and was experimenting with creating animated videos. He played a couple of his videos for us and, as I recall, both were backed by excerpts from Treatise (as I recall, they involved animated robots engaged in a laser battle -- though I am really stretching the limits of my memory here). The colors in your video remind me a bit of Todd's videos. But most of all, I want to say how great it was to revisit Treatise in such a fun way. Thanks again.
I'm glad you like it
I had tickets to see the man at the Alwych theatre in London, I was pregnant with my 2nd child, my dearest ex husband had a bath got out and decided to "touch his toes"!!!!, needless to say never got there as the twat hurt his back..... gutted was not the word and he paid big time.
@@lynnalborough9672 Oh, what a disappointment! I hope your ex's back recovered okay, but it's a shame you missed the show.
it's my absolute favorite instrumental and inventive amazing creation. Can listen to this all day long
well, there you go!
@ Aye
What a beautiful meditation and motivation by the one and only Todd Rundgren.
Glad you like it!
So perfect, magnificent, absolute!
Glad you like it
This is album is 67 minutes and 34 seconds! This piece was Side 2. Todd has a warning about that and recommended recording it to tape and playing for that tape. I did not one and wore it out quickly. Eventually, I got a good cassette deck and start to record all my vinyl to CrO2 cassettes with Dolby type B noise reduction - better quality than any pre-recorded cassette on the market. I do not finish analog recording, not for one 0.00005 second (the length a 20 kHZ wave), The CD version has no problem.
yeah this was a see through affair
Video fits the music well. Very nice!
Thanx, glad you like it!
I may still have this VHS
I absolutely adore your long-form cinematic Todd uploads!
Thanx a million!
Nobody can put the mood in you like TODD
right!
brilliant piece - - Clichenatic pushes the buttons
Glad you like it!
One of the very few artists and tunes I've done a cover or tribute to (it's on my youtube channel). I listened to this record thousands of times probably. Todd outdid himself on this one.
This album was my favorite tripping music for years. When we put this on you knew the acid was going to be 10 times as good. Imagine if you will this song encapsulating you on a full moon in Joshua tree NP back then it was a monument with no gates fees or rangers. Thanks toodd
I guess everyone in the scene dropped some on this.
Thanks to you also for putting these gems up
@@starbear1322 your welcome
You should thank Albert Hoffman also I suppose but Todd gets the statue.
@@slackdude1 thanks albert
How The Big Bang would sound slowed down.
The soundtrack of the world
Always amazing, Clichématic RP! ⭐
Thanx a million
He's playing with Gala Bingo now!!!! I spate my tea out when I first saw it... Todd!! You sold out man!!.'..
c'est magnifique
merci beacoup
Damn! ✌️❤️🎵
yeah
So great! Love your videos!
Thanx
Im 59..Todd @ 12 years old thanks to a sister. Credit due. Fan ever more....Anything...anywhere. Shout out to Gil and Kas
Best concept album EVER.
Glad you like it!
This album launched my very first psychonautical journey in 1979- I was 20 at the time.
Same age
I loved this when a girlfriend got high...and I got high on the wonderful sounds...in 1981...still love it, girlfriend just a memory.
Everything fades away
LOVe the VID!!!!
Some of the footage looks like it’s originally from the video The Ever Popular Tortured Artist Effect- I had this video in 1986 when I was living in Palm Springs CA
I have about 10 Todd DVD's and there is some TEPTAE footage in there.
Clichematic, this certainly was a labor of love for you to make this. How many hours did you spend on it, I wonder? Todd's music inspired me to go to college and study theatre-lights, sets and costumes. I never did get to NY city, it wouldn't have been the right thing for me. However, after Healing came out, that's exactly what I got into. Nowadays, a new type of healing is necessary, and I can see the use of vibration and sound will be our answer to a lot of health questions such as cymatics that might break this spell our people are under. Thank you for sharing this. Pass this along friends, hopefully it inspires the next generations to do something or anything with.
I spend so many hours on making Todd clips, this one was not the most labour intensive because there was a lot of recycle footage I used from other clips I made. But thanks for the appreciation!
My favorite karaoke song!
😂
😂😂
Ahead of his time, back in the day…
he always is
fucking love this
Great!
@ how did you make the video? It matches perfectly!
@@WeirdSide Well could be better but is was a quicky on request so no deep editing
@ but what was the process - do you start with real footage and apply effects to it? Or are you doing some generative art in processing or something? Which software do you use - I've not seen anything like it before!
@@WeirdSide Yes I'm using real footage and mangle it by layering it 10 times with different effects, I use a simple video editing program
supermooi nummer
Ik ben blij dat je het mooi vind
SO mooi. D.U.W.
This had to have the middle men between artist and radio crapping their pants. It’s too advanced for masses
That's why it's called prog
Really? Dude, I became Todd fan in 72 because of AWATS. I was on the computer card poster that came out in Todd album, always scouring record shops for bootlegs etc. I was criticising business model that catered to lowest common denominator fan who was always screaming for hello it’s me at concerts.
@@shoulettehoulette I WANNA BE YOUR
NUMBER ONE LOWEST COMMON
DENOMINATOR
@@Iriscal likewise, back at ya
I wonder why the live version of this from St. Louis in 1974 is only 2 mins. long.
Ok...here we go again...
This album was recorded with creative assistance from Roger Powell (whose solo albums- before he was with Utopia- included Cosmic Furnace- very much cerebral just as this piece is)
Time to make ageless... Awesome ..
Glad you like it!
How old are you?... I was into the music in the "70's".. I'm good thank... I know what I like....
roger programs and plays on this too.
Dropped a tab of acid to this with one of my best friends a few months ago and what a journey it was.
Yes it's trippy shit
Better than drugs
Had to take some to make this ;-)
Your just 15 minutes away from where I live
Dude, what did you use to make this video? It's sick!
@@max4furious just the regular hasj and some morphine
real
Great video! Not to quibble, but didn't ROger help (i.e. play) on this?
Yes very much Roger...
fuckin Dilla
mindblowing
He was/is amazing on the samples. Mind blowing!
The comment I was looking for. RIP to the late great
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Also good
ruclips.net/video/jb7T1if8gSk/видео.html
@@Cyeoable www.whosampled.com
Prana
yep