"He's FAILED" ❌ Emmanuel Petit CLAIMS Southgate Should've Won At Least One Tournament With England 🤬
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
- World Cup winner Emmanuel Petit believes Gareth Southgate has underachieved as England manager.
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I see Petit, I click. No nonsense. What a legend.
Yeah these English nuffies won’t like him hitting nails on the head
As a Liverpool fan, I appreciate the best and Petit was one of them. Zidane, Pires, Platini etc all winners. Southgate isn't.
That’s the last time Petit gets an invite to talksport, he talks to much sense.
So true 😂😂
Wow! Petit speaking the truth.😅
No. He said Southgate n3ver won a medal...not true
@@adeyinkabenjamin9537 Did he won something as a DT of the English national team? Like Deschamps? 🤔🙄
Nice to hear someone putting it bluntly. And the only reason Southgate has the 'record' he has is because he's overstayed his welcome and the FA have just kept him their as a safe Yes Man.
@@andyjm7122 EP is an expert when it comes to management. Just like AG, he knows what he's talking about.
The other problem and why he has stayed so long, is the FA have no succession plan. The whole set up is not designed for England to win a tournament. If England won it would be a miracle, considering the unprofessional way of doing things.
@@BurnsTennis any suggestions or solutions?
@@user-zs2ug8no1c The only solution is for the future, to start making succession plans where possible. We have a different set up over here. France have a history of promoting coaches within their set up to manage the French team. Aime Jacquet in the 1990s, then Roger Lemerre in the 2000s. More recently Deschamp. These are not big name managers, would not get big jobs at club level. But it works, because they either win tournaments or get to finals in the last 25 years.
Now, for the first time we did that with Southgate after the Allardyce fiasco.
Let's remember, Southgate was picking young players he knew from the Under 21 set up for the national team, then clubs started picking these players realising they had something to offer.
But the FA don't seem to have anyone lined up to succeed Southgate.
We do things different over here, it is difficult to adopt a French style system to be successful.
Under the circumstances, a good solution would be to offer Eddie Howe the job, then identify a young English manager and groom him for the national job, whilst Howe is in position.
Southgate was not a big name but won more matches than other previous England coaches. So there might be something to be said about maintaining that approach but actually going all the way and continuing that approach.
Instead of bringing in some famous manager from club level which is a risk when it comes to team unity etc etc.
@@user-zs2ug8no1c Amazingly I spent ten minutes writing out a considered response, and it was removed in minutes. No swearing or anything. No idea why its being removed. I might write another response in a while.
Petit needs a contract on Talksport. Legend.
Petit speaking serious facts
always struck me as a very honest / passionate guy . not many of them around .
Southgate win % of 62 is padded by beating weak teams, break it down against top ten ranked teams his win rate drops to 22% which is brutal
Terrible record.
His supporters always point to statistics, however, when you put these stats under the microscope, the arguments of his supporters disintegrate.
Southgate originally got the job as an interim manager because england got knocked out the euros by Iceland… i mean it’s not like we were Real Madrid… if anything we’re more like Tottenham. Always had quality players, always flopping it.
@@nvkellz4873 If that's your example, would Tottenham get more than 5 points in close battles against 3 championship teams?
Southgates record is MISLEADING.
All other managers had more losses because they were constantly playing WORLD CLASS TEAMS.
Southgate has played 98% of his games against WEAKER TEAMS.
And when he has played against a HALF DECENT TEAM, he ALWAYS, ALWAYS LOOSES.
Venables England BEAT a WORLD CLASS HOLLAND 4-1, Before loosing to a WORLD CLASS GERMANY.
Remind me of ONE WORLD CLASS TEAM, Southgates ENGLAND have beaten??
We lost to an old, rusty Croatia, whos 2 centre midfielders had a combined age of almost 70 years old.
So be quiet Goldstine on the Southgate stats.
His reign as ENGLAND manager up till now has been a FAILURE OF EPIC PROPORTIONS!!
Truth be told we should have won last Euros
@@Rocky0Road We were 1-0 up against Italy. Yes we should of.
@@Rocky0Roadsouthgate was 1-0 up on italy and let them back in through defensive tactics. This italy side couldn’t qualify for the next wc
@@Rocky0Roadshould have won that game by 2 or 3. Southgate choked and went negative and handed it to them
Southgate has had lucky runs in tournaments against weaker teams.
Petit is spot on - players well for their clubs , not well for England. No pride and no passion.
So called golden generation were failures for England.
Southgate has never beat a top 10 ranked nation in a tournament.
Even in this tournament, he got lucky and somehow managed to miss all the good teams, and he still managed to almost get knocked out.
All the pro Southgate bum boys will always say- "But look at his record"
The trouble being he constantly comes unstuck, with a lack of knowledge, experience and attack minded formations against the big boys
95% of games England should win with their hands tied behind their backs. It's the top 5% where he ALWAYS struggles through lack of leadership and the fundamentals of being a top coach/manager.
He hardly EVER beats the Top sides- Fair play to Emmanuel- HE'S SPOT ON HERE!!!!
Southgate has never beaten a good team
@@MrJonnyl123exactly, his record is like the nonsense "maguire never let's England down". Qualification groups with Kosovo, Gibraltar, Lithuania and then tournament groups with Panama, Iran,Wales and the likes ffs
@@MrJonnyl123 Southgate has beaten teams like Italy, Belgium and Germany but usually in Friendlies and not very often
@@villainofthepiste8275 I’m talking about in tournaments. The Germany team he beat at euro 2021 was terrible
The story about Gary Neville getting other players go to lunch early, so they didn't have to sit with other England players is out now. Andy Townsend didn't like Emmanuel telling it. Why.
Where can I read more about this? Never heard of it before. Can you add some more context?
Well Andy Townsend played for Ireland so I don’t think he cares
Little RED Gary. Neville was a divisive character. He could not hide his contempt for Liverpool and Arsenal. England were not a harmonious team. Unfortunately in life we have all come across Gary Neville’s who tend to damage and ruin things for all concerned.
@@x_MVP michael Grey touched on the subject when he was on under the cosh podcast 5 years ago.
Im irish..but irish people know are are aware townsend alwsys refers to england team as we..@@PhilipFlopRG
Petit speaking truth
Petit what a player he was
Spot on, resistant to change. I get what he is doing. 1-0 sit back but come on ... That and taking no fit left back is ludicrous.
Its painful listening to someone as tedious and hesitant as Townsend , seems like a nice guy but how he's lasted so long on talksport is baffling.
Someone who’s paid to give his opinions- but never does. Afraid to upset anyone.
@@29memyselfandi Exactly right. Its been the same with him for years. If you can't give an opinion go and get another job. Coward.
Why is it baffling, Dean put you to sleep Saunders and Tony Cascarino are knocking about on there
He is talking over Petit. Let the world class player speak
@@Youafool500 Cascarino offers strong opiniions as does Dean at times. Townsend wouldn't know what a strong opinion is if it punched him hard in the face.
Class act this fella! Need more of this type of pundit
Griezmann playing a bad tournament is dragging down the whole team. Maybe he should've been made captain back then.
He’s played rubbish teams!!!!!
The quality does not matter. It is the team. All that matters is winning. England are consistently poor. They are boring. They cannot get good players to play well together. It is sad.
😂😂😂
Great words from Petit. The French Keane!!
Based petit
Petit has used the word "Romantic" more times than even first time lovers on a date 😂
Lets speculate which European or World Cup winning side would Gareth's England sides have beaten from yester year? Mmmmm answer none
Should have beaten that poor Italy side in 2021 and they are definitely better than the 2016 Portugal euros winning team
@@MrJonnyl123 but they didn't and even the French side that lost! To Portugal in 2016 were better than this England side Girout! Vintage Griezman nominated best European player by Goal, Evra! And that was a side with Kante! Who didn't even play more than 2 games better performances than any of Engalnds midfield have put on in this tournament thus far
How many decent teams has Southgate actually beat? the record is worthless if all he's done is beat teams we should have done so comfortably.
Sacked Middlesbrough Manager, Southgate should never been England Manager FFS useless !
Is that Rolf Harris? 😂
Oh come on Emmanuel, Southgate is a tactical genius, he knew Bellingham would score with 1 minute left, We have been playing absolute shite the whole touenament buildind up to this game against the Swiss ,the magician Southgate will sort us out..
I've just seen a formation of pigs fly past my window . . .
😅😂
This isn't rocket science....... England have had an outstanding squad for the last 8 years and should have won everything. So what's the common denominator!?
There's two,Southgate is a simp but the squad isn't as good as it's made out to be either
@chucky7826 True
Petit should be on more often.
Love Petit. No fence sitting and says it as it is!! He needs to be on more! Merci Manu!
Complete failure. Golden opportunities wasted in weak brackets over multiple tournaments. Stacked with talent safegate was ruined.
France have an almost identical record to England in this tournament so far and have also been playing at a low tempo. I remember in the 2010 WC, Spain lost the first game 0-1, then won every subsequent game 1-0 to win the tournament.
Imagine England winning this tournament and being loathed by their own fans for the entire competition.
It’s a deeper issue than what you realise. England people compared to other countries just aren’t as patriotic.
In other countries paying for their national team is the pinnacle over club football, in England it’s the opposite.
A good indicator is when you watch other nations players sing their national anthems… and then you watch England’s players.
Importing too many third worlders will do that. Hopefully we see the rise of Reform.
Shame how he downed tools a bit his last season with Arsenal before he went Barca, but those 2 years before, he was a beast next to Vieira. I fell in love with that 97/98 double winning team, English Core at the back and flair and pace up front.
He's 100 percent right... They all play better for their clubs because they've got better managers who work with them all day every day....
It's a shame we never seen Arsene Wenger or Harry Rednapp manage there national teams.
Thank you Manu for saying it how it is 👍🏻
hes always failed if he can play albania every week he,s a great manager but cant beat a half decent team never mind a top team never has never will
Always great hearing Petits wisdom... Wen. He speaks i have reruns of t france 98 as a child in my mind. Thanks for the great show gentlemen
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Petit the legend. What a player!
Agreed with everything Petit said. Manchester United should be ashamed.
Brutal Petit, tell it how it is mate, love it!! ❤😂
I'd rather see my club win than country any day.
LOL goldstien preferred his club win a cup than england win a world cup ... haha he's so quiet now.
If Southgate's England beat Luxembourg, San Marino and Gibralter to top their group, Townsend would still be gloating Southgate's win percentage.
Spoke facts for 12 minutes straight
Emmanuel Petit is spot but he cannot say that there are similarities between Deschamps and Southgate . Deschamps is a decorated player and manager at club level and international the other was just an average player and manager who got lucky to get the England job
Lampard, Gerrard, and Rio stated on TV that there were cliques and man utd would not eat with Liverpool players etc....
This is a FACT they said themselves.
So Townsend is talking absolute tosh
It's not that it doesn't matter to not have a striker in cup competitions. There's nothing inherently special/different about cup competitions. If you look at the leagues, most title winning teams have strikers who go on dry runs, so really, what you're seeing in _some_ cup competitions is exactly that: 7 game long dry spells. It's quite common in all forms of competitions. However, most league AND cup winning side DO have a striker scoring most of the goals.
really people don’t wanna play for england , how can we be different to every other nation ?
If only we could have 17 different nationality’s in our squad like France
Finally somone talking sense on this accursed channel
Watching England play is like watching Man United. Too rigid. Considering how many supposed good players the team has is so reflecting on the manager’s personality..too bland.
Petit is so damn on point!
Easier said than done...how ling did pep take to win champ league with city
If England had a good manager they would have got to the final in 2018 and win the euros in 2021.
Southgate has this record because he has faced weaker teams and has got lucky in tournaments
And now you know the truth told by a French man. Tony being political petit didn’t care. Wonder if he’d ever be a manager or in politics as he’s honest
The golden generation of England lacked players who could play in small spaces. They also didn’t transition well between attack and defence. The current generation don’t have a leaders in the team so the simply fall too deep and can’t seem to get up the pitch.
England should appoint Bielsa . The way Uruguay is playing now, the high octane football it’s amazing to watch and result is coming defeating Brazil and Argentina, the strongest team in South America.sack Garath and sign Bielsa.
He’s right some one need to tell tham
Most Man u fans knew Ragnick was right, it was the media who hounded him out...so disrespectful because they didn't know who he was "wreck it Ralph" smh and over time he has been proven 100% right
Petit is right about clubs more important than the national team. Look at liverpool fans when TAA was dropped, lots of them wish england lose. The same thing happened with rashford fans, foden fans, etc. This is embarassing
It's because the England national team no longer represents the English people
They're too woke. Their values don't align with the values of the mass population.
There's too many non English players in the England team
I'm sure none of the squad or coaching staff voted reform today
Shitgate may have won more games than previous England managers - but who have they played! Under Shitgate, England have played some absolute dross teams which they are expected to win. [yet is some cases they have lost - ie: Iceland].
The real question is, HOW many games has Shitgate won against 'quality' opponents? That is a much more realistic measure of just how good Shitgate/England are!
love EP, talks sense
well... I'm willing to give them a pass for the last euros it was a penalty shootout might as well flip a coin
OHe hasn't failed ,we are still in the completion, progressing ,when we get knocked out then you can say we failed to win the completion but so has all the teams who went out earlier give it a rest
Had to be said , seen too many united supporters moaning about rashford not making the squad.
It’s not about the club it’s about the country and he simply hadn’t produced the form necessary to justify a place
Dumbest thing I've heard in a while...if it was about what is best for England then rashford would definitely be at the euros...only one player in the current squad has more goals for England (Harry Kane) . Infact I am fairly certain that if you add all the goals of the current squad apart from Kane it would not be more than rashford's tally. England are screaming out for players who can actually play lw, get in behind and score...he brought Gordon and Eze and left out Rashford only to bench eze and Gordon. Rashford also has more goals in competitive matches than the whole rest of the squad combined. Scored the goal that qualified England for this tournament only to have Southgate stab him in the back.
@@adeyinkabenjamin9537 👏👏👏 maybe you didn’t see rashfords season, horrendous
Stop focusing on historical performances and actually look at what he’s produced in the last 15 months
Bloody Southgate
Goldstein makes everything about man u.... Such a boring helmet
are you listening, Saka-sexuals?? the identity of "club first" is a big issue... so when you jump online saying "it's an agenda against arsenal players" etc, pump the brakes, and think about what works best for England, instead of your favourite player (despite of their terrible form)
Not as big a fail as that jacket Emmanuel
I think it was more the players failing than the manager, in the lost WC semifinal and the previous EC final. Ultimately it's the player execution, for the majority of times. The manager can take a team up to a point and then they need to perform and execute. Easier to speak and analyze from the outside, although anybody can do it.
The players didn't all tell themselves to park the bus 2 minutes into the game cause they scored 1 goal, the players didn't tell southgate to use his first sub 100 minutes into the game, the players didn't tell him to sub on 2 more players 2 mins from the end of second half of extra time to touch the ball twice before being forced to take a penalty kick that should have never happened.
Hes a joke and has been for 8 years, 3 easy tournament runs and he still can't figure out how to make a substitute to win.
@@xenoborg007 I think most of the players are slightly overrated and also they can have bad patches. Cohesion is not an easy thing to achieve. And really, I don't think GS tells them to park the bus. Tournament football is about being strong in defense too. I don't know, I just don't buy these arguments that it's the manager's fault, or that it's the manager only and he did not win anything. And a manager is always a team, not one guy. I think that, unfortunately, you might be in the same place as before, with cliques in the team and even with highly rated players, cohesion and fluency is hard to achieve.
Sorry but that's not true.
All 11 players do not suddenly STOP attacking and park the bus.
Playing defensive has NOTHING to do with suddenly stopping and just giving the opposition the ball for 80 minutes.
No team are STUPID enough to All Do that.
Especially when you have the opposition on the ropes and they are getting wound up and look like getting a yellow card.
Only the manager can make those decisions.
But let's say your correct and the manager never said park the bus . . . . .
Do you honestly think if they players decided to just park the bus against the managers orders, that a manager like Pep, Klopp, Fergusson, Wenger etc, would simply accept it like Southgate does????
You know FULL WELL they would be screaming at the players to do what's been told to them, and at half time they would get read the riot act if they ignored him and would suffer the consequences.
We ALL KNOW THAT.
So if the players ARE pRking the bus themselves and not following the managers orders, it means they do not respect him or entertain him.
Meaning he is WEAK, AND USLESS and has NO CONTROL over his players. And that IS HIS FAULT for being soft as shite on them so they see him as usless.
So EITHERWAY the performance or lack of one IS DOWN TO SOUTHGATE 🎤🤯.
@@user-xi3mj3mx4j Hard to speculate on all your points, because we just don't know what happens in the locker room and what instructions are given.
For the part about being defensive, maybe it's natural to protect an advantage when you have it, and when you are down one, to try to advance slowly rather than expose fast. Not sure what is the balance here. With Slovakia it was not that good, it was relatively easy to defend. It can be that, for example, 'control the ball more' can be a slide or can be perceived as a defensive approach, where control can be understood as do not be offensive and do not take risks. Not easy on the eye but it's a different thing than stop playing.
And how you implement on the field is on the players.
For the part about the coaches, I actually prefer a coach that is more reserved, Ancelotti comes to mind. But I think that there's positives with a more energetic coach too. Not that animated like Arteta, not to my linking, but generally to mobilize a team in certain moments, maybe you need a level of animation.
For GS, changing in-game is not his best historically, but he kept Bellingham and Kane on with Slovakia.
I think that some of his picks have been questionable, in terms of the people that are part of the squad, but still it is a good squad, if you look individually. Talent wise, comparable with the other favorites, but as a team, not better than France, and perhaps others. I feel like, the highest rated English players have some circumstances in their clubs, that favor them so they are a little bit overrated, and those conditions may not be present in the national team. Bellingham in Real, Foden in City, Saka even, they are surrounded by very good players but of other nationalities, so it is hard to re-create the same environment in the national team. And that raises the expectations a bit. And Kane, well, not all teams are Bochum or Darmstadt.
I was thinking about a bottom line and that would be that along the lines of ... you're already in the tournament and so the best could be to just get behind the team, including the coaching team, and hope the players do well. And for me, only the players can get this through, I think they should be criticized more, not the coaching team. Or at least the discourse should be balanced.
I also see no reason for GS not to continue if England get to the final. And yes, he is paid even more than Deschamps, but it's not his fault.
Money in champions league, players pay for cash
win ratio against top teams is 25% I believe?.. stats need a deep dive.. beating san marino and andorra are not exactly sparkling results are they?
From the sounds of it EP has all the answers. I imagine we will see him in the dug out soon.
Griezmann isn’t that good
Is he winning?
Southgate out now
Brilliant
I'm surprised both Andy's didn't piss themselves laughing the second time Petit said "pine-acle"
you speak perfect French?
great record but he hasnt won anything.
Blimey, some 3 🦁 fans are unbelievers. Cmon, Roar on Big Balls Jude & his 3 🦁 pride. Do your prayers meditations cuz thats how Argentina fans ended 36 yrs of hurt.
Its coming home, & that wonder goal by the young Brummie proves it. 27 seconds from a bad defeat, but he & Harry won it.
It was the same for Argentina, who lost to Saudi, but Argy chose to pray & not bash the boss & then destiny chose Messi to turn it on. Leo undressed the ManC defender & made a lovely defence unlocking pass/assist like only he & Trent can.
Hearing he is being offered a 2 year extension up until North America 2026, time to suspend the negativity and get behind England again, for better or for worse
The French have that northern saliva problem....
Emmanuel Petit terrible chat terrible jacket
The problem is southgate thinks woke instead of who's my best team.
Why would you not take your best tactical player we have seen for a long time grealish only a stupid man would not pick him. 🤦🏻🙆🏻
France have been worse than England . 😂
they have a world cup in their locker in 1998... not 66
France have won the worldcup and nations league and have gotten to a euros final and another world cup final under Dechamps Southgate has won fuckall in the past decade
@@JohnKerr-bq3vo Make that 2. 1998 and 2018
@@JohnKerr-bq3vo 1998 is too far back the won it again in 2018 and went to the final again in the last world cup
Imagine a Frenchie commenting on our team.
A Frenchie spitting pure facts.
@@imouto4hire a Frenchie who should be more concerned with the consistent underwhelming nature of his own nations performances.
But he can be level headed without bias....it's a good thing
@@RickyLafleur-t5othe frenchie at least won a wc and came close to defending the title
They asked for his opinion.
If Southgate failed what does that say about every manager before him because he's done better than all of them
We went out to Argetina on pens 98,a great Brazil side in 2002 , 2 times on pens against Portugal & a great Germany team in 2010 .. Southgate would of been destroyed in any of those games
He's honestly no better. If he was in charge during the Hodgson era we'd probably come unstuck at the same times. Went out to Italy on pens in 2012 - well Southgate did that at the last Euros. Finished bottom of a group with 2 big teams in it in the 2014 World Cup - well Southgate's record against big teams is rubbish, so probably no different. Went out to Iceland in 2016 in the first knock out round - well Southgate was seconds away from doing the same against Slovakia, only Bellingham saved him.
@@joewhite22 that's ridiculous he picked up the pieces after the Hodgson and Allardyce debacle we were at rock bottom he rebuilt it from the ground up. He promoted youth from the U21s into the main team he did a great job with the U21s btw! He took us to a world cup semi and then took everyone on a journey to a major final nobody was complaining then!! I don't care if we play like Wimbledon if I gets a trophy
@@donnybrasco9330in short the managers couldn't get it done with arguably a better set of players 🤷🏾♂️
@@richuk69 What do you mean he rebuilt it? He just came in at the right time when the failing Golden Generation was at an end and some good youngsters were emerging. He could have easily gone out at the round of 16 stage during the pen shootout to Colombia in that first World Cup. Pickford helped save him the way Bellingham did the last game. He's done nothing special, just been blessed with the luck that wasn't afforded to previous managers.
Is it Southgates fault Saka fluffed his penalty or is it Southgate fault Harry Kane came up small on his penalty? Southgate hate is unwarranted
He coaches like a coward. Must be a beta if you support em
Yes.
If Southgate was a good manager the final vs italy wouldn’t have gone to pens in the first place
He literally subbed players on too only take a penalty in that shootout.. that is a awful game management
It’s southgates fault it went to penalties in the first place.
It’s been analysed enough, and showed how poor his in game management is.
Let’s be honest, it’s a padded record against minnows of the international stage, show us the stats against the top teams and it’s about 20-25% win rate
Manu gets it