MH World player tries to play MHGU

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  • Опубликовано: 5 ноя 2024

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  • @OrgBrent
    @OrgBrent Год назад +270

    Honestly. The old gen games have something the newer ones don't have. It's what makes me come back to them rather than the 5th gen. It can't be nostalgia either because I'm -shamefully- also rather new to the series. It's more fun. More challenge. More content, just all of those things combined for me. Frontier's my absolute favorite in the whole entire franchise.

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +43

      I've been spoilt by the QOL changes in World...

    • @theazureeyedaassassin885
      @theazureeyedaassassin885 Год назад +64

      It's FEAR. The old games will genuinely make your heart stop while the new ones just don't have that kinda tension

    • @OrgBrent
      @OrgBrent Год назад +25

      @@theazureeyedaassassin885 not so very scary when you're used to it, but definitely more exciting than the newer gens in terms of difficulty yeah :)
      The AI is way more punishing

    • @OrgBrent
      @OrgBrent Год назад +15

      @@MogreciousMalone the QOL is amazing in 5th gen, but Frontier is where they got these from. Matter of fact, frontier has some QoL stuff that's still not in mainline right now which I absolutely adore (for example shortcut buttons when accessing the town itemchest to quick-select between 4 itemsets with rb/lb 1/2)

    • @drunkennephilim2995
      @drunkennephilim2995 Год назад +10

      The approach is different, the older games are much slower and are more methodical making every hit count and have an emphasis on preparation due to its more complex armour system limited use items(whetstones, pickaxes and bug nets being limited and taking item space)and no tents or restocking lean more into the RPG side, World and especially Sunbreak lean more into faster paced action which makes sense, the games are still action RPGs just the focus shifted.

  • @UncleHoward
    @UncleHoward Год назад +30

    The balance of power has forever shifted in Bherna Village

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +8

      my modified switch has allowed me the power of the gods

  • @tobiiwagner1639
    @tobiiwagner1639 Год назад +50

    never ever have i seen a new gen hunter trying to learn an old gen monster hunter so patiently xD

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +15

      when you've gone through enough barioths in world, you gain a new appreciation for hunting monsters lol

  • @thechugg4372
    @thechugg4372 Год назад +65

    After filling the valor gauge, the beginning of the dual sword dash has a guard point that triggers an attack, you can see this by the visual effect used at the beginning of the dash, every guard point in MHGU uses that visual effect ;)

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +14

      I shall put this to good use, ty for the tip.

    • @snaidman-8450
      @snaidman-8450 Год назад +10

      If I remember correctly it also sharpens your weapon a tad bit too!

  • @MunkeyD
    @MunkeyD Год назад +23

    I started with Monster Hunter Freedom Unite back in the psp day, so I got to see the QoL slowly come on into the games. It’s nice to see gameplay and hear your thoughts coming from MH World back into the previous MH games.

  • @markabyss1200
    @markabyss1200 Год назад +24

    I started with world as well, so getting used to the older games did take a hot minute. Now that I have though? I absolutely love the lot of them. GU was my first Non world mh title and it was an absolute blast.

  • @MezzoForte4
    @MezzoForte4 Год назад +8

    As a player since 3U, I love it when newbie World players go back to check out the older titles especially GU. MHGU is just so fucking fun and it brings me such joy when someone discovers it for the first time. Have fun in G-Rank!

  • @KoAkaiTengami
    @KoAkaiTengami Год назад +42

    Obviously you gotta play up to G rank. GU is peak Monster Hunter, its worth the journey. There's something special about the old gen games that makes you feel like you somehow belong in that world. Idk, maybe its nostalgia. Simply put, playing through XX with my best friend at he time was and still is my favorite video game memory.

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +3

      Yeah, next video I'm just gonna try to trim down all of the surface level hunts maybe just showing the monsters I dont recognise from world or rise.

    • @KoAkaiTengami
      @KoAkaiTengami Год назад

      @@MogreciousMalone If you hunt anything, try to find a Nibelsnarf hunt. You'll see why, you'll get a kick out of it.

    • @klaushassen3954
      @klaushassen3954 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@MogreciousMalone You could max out a 3ds save transfer and then go for the coveted G5

  • @static134
    @static134 Год назад +53

    the fact you don’t like the, “so tastey” is a crime

  • @NamelessCopper
    @NamelessCopper 11 месяцев назад +4

    Aye welcome brother, shoot ive recently restarted to rekindled my love also when I get tired of sunbreak I play some GU, i plan to climb to G rank this time around with a single weapon. Glad to see new player's trying the older. I started in 4U.

  • @Cloakarius
    @Cloakarius Год назад +8

    All the information from playing this game while walking between classes is being beamed back into my brain

  • @mallow2902
    @mallow2902 Год назад +10

    I picked up multiple Monster Hunter games around the same time, but I mostly started out playing Rise. There's a lot that I love about Rise, but after playing it for several hours I wanted to switch over to the other games I had bought to give them some attention, and I'm not gonna lie, 4 Ultimate is my favorite game in the series so far. It's challenging, the monster roster is great, the combat may be simpler than Rise but it's still super fun, even some of the things that make it feel "old" I like. I like the segmented maps, I like having to stand still to take items (the trade off is you take items faster than in World and Rise), I like using paintballs, I like having to plan my loadout before a hunt and not having camp to fall back on, I like the challenge. World and Rise aren't bad, they're excellent games in their own right, but there's just something I love about 4 Ultimate.

    • @dadadabest2237
      @dadadabest2237 Год назад +1

      Amen bro.. 4u is also by far my favourite in the series... 😊

  • @CloudWind0643
    @CloudWind0643 Год назад +4

    Gaijin hunter has fantastic guides for each weapon and their styles for GU

  • @scragglie
    @scragglie Месяц назад +1

    this video was peak, love the editing, and the outro was also just peak

  • @superiorgamedude
    @superiorgamedude Год назад +4

    This is still my favorite MH game to date.

  • @Themasterjtg
    @Themasterjtg Месяц назад +1

    Cat creation can have some good depth in GU, spoken as I've spent days making some people specific cats on my main save
    Cat builds are just as variable as hunter builds, and the fun part is Prowler mode - definitely fun and worth checking out in LR/HR

  • @ehrun0733
    @ehrun0733 Год назад +4

    Mhgu fighting is more similar to world fighting than any other mh. Imo as a charge blade user.
    It starts to change drastically with mh freedome and mh3.

  • @huntsshorts3740
    @huntsshorts3740 Год назад +13

    If your valor gauge are full red, press both X and A perform a Blade Dance, it does give you demon mode just a few seconds. Also, 6 styles has their own advantages and they can be fun as heck. If ya wanted to find out more, go check the controller and it for every weapons along with 6 styles tutorial, instead of training quest. So yeah, dual blade does has demon mode but few of them are remove, in strike, it give you demon mode but no demon gauge.

    • @huntsshorts3740
      @huntsshorts3740 Год назад

      Another tip for valor style, if you want do something faster gain red gauge of valor, you press y when in long sheated animation and press X or A or R or X+A (some of them has) immediately to fill valor gauge faster. Some Weapons Faster Valor Gauge that is Great Sword, Hammer and HH (Maybe), Charge Blade, and HBG.
      A quick tip, you still use Charge Attack of GS in Long Sheated before press and hold X, Once it's filled into Red Gauge, you can move anywhere and holding X which lead you to quick charge level 2. If you don't move around and holding X its give you blue charge level, a powerful one.

  • @MogreciousMalone
    @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +14

    Got a new mic so hopefully the audio balancing will be easier the next time. There were times when i'd lean back away from the mic or lean too close to it and blow it up lol.

    • @cartmen6718
      @cartmen6718 Год назад +1

      What's the like goal to continue the serious

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад

      @@cartmen6718 ive got a 40-50 minute video coming out in a couple days of me going through low rank(most of it)... teehee

    • @cartmen6718
      @cartmen6718 Год назад +1

      @Nijjox ohh can't wait imma sub with bell

  • @robertovidiuspinu3314
    @robertovidiuspinu3314 Год назад +3

    We all lift together from Warframe if anyone was wandering.(01:25)

  • @shadow_flame2223
    @shadow_flame2223 Год назад +12

    GU is a beautiful game, played it after rise and enjoyed it even more than rise

  • @freddoesvox9033
    @freddoesvox9033 Год назад +9

    Heres a helpful tip for how armour skills work, you need 10 points in a skill minimum for it to be active. Full sets are the way to go until you get into mixed sets. I advise looking up how to make mixed sets :)

  • @bacon_man21
    @bacon_man21 Год назад +3

    Man, I miss those farm/garden feature on mh3u. Hoped that they've implemented that on mhw and mhwi instead of that giant tree.

  • @cloudyren3556
    @cloudyren3556 Год назад +4

    Im surprised how underrated this RUclipsr is this video was pretty fuckin good hope he keep making videos like this

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +1

      Dont inflate my ego like that 😌 Appreciate the kind message.

  • @fightingfortruth9806
    @fightingfortruth9806 5 месяцев назад +1

    That cat meow in the beginning sounded like a mutant. Lol.

  • @ShrimpySchrampy-yj7tg
    @ShrimpySchrampy-yj7tg Год назад +3

    Tbh I appreciate the older games but world just has an unrivaled sense of detail that can only come with modern hardware. I am still a sucker for the older games content tho.

  • @andrewalexb
    @andrewalexb 8 месяцев назад

    Honestly one of the funniest videos I've watched, you deserve more subscribers

  • @cris.han0311
    @cris.han0311 Год назад +3

    I been playing mh since the original n I got to say that mhfu is and will be the best one ever

  • @garujix
    @garujix Год назад +2

    You can be a cat... you can be your palicoes... its called prowler... please check it out

  • @Miki-hk6vy
    @Miki-hk6vy Год назад +3

    This game makes so many boring weapons from World(HBG,LBG,Lance,S&S) into incredibly fun and good weapons. Love it

  • @akabara0000
    @akabara0000 Год назад +2

    The greatsword miss is real.

  • @mfs96
    @mfs96 Год назад +2

    as newb: read hunter note > weapon tutorial in the menu. if you don't want to see any youtube tutorial. still don't understand why people who's new to the game(any game) never tried to explore the menu first.

  • @Miki-hk6vy
    @Miki-hk6vy Год назад +7

    The Valor Dual Blades are incredible for their parry at the beginning of the sprint when powered up. So just go into Valor mode and press r1 right before being hit and you'll take no damage and even damage the monster, bonkers weapons

  • @miggmh6886
    @miggmh6886 Год назад +3

    Valor dual blades are crazy if you know how to use them, also the running move has a parry at the begining of the animation :3

  • @spelv1104
    @spelv1104 7 месяцев назад +1

    Damn, im going thru the same journey with my first old school mh being gu

  • @FIy019
    @FIy019 Год назад +1

    Yo I just listened to that cat meowing in front of door camera on loop before this 🤣🤣🤣

  • @palladiumpony9596
    @palladiumpony9596 Год назад +1

    I like your sense of humor. You're a funny guy. I hope to see you find success.

  • @ulysses2892
    @ulysses2892 Год назад +2

    Yesss mhgu is honestly a game that'll get ya blood pumping

  • @Royal_MilkTea
    @Royal_MilkTea Год назад +1

    Ngl the first-time using Valor I'm so confuse since I'm missing a few crucial combos at first, took me a while to get used to it and learning from guide video and all.

  • @tristanwilliams4180
    @tristanwilliams4180 Год назад +4

    i tried Generatons Ultimate, it was Different Yet Nibel Snarf was an extra Pain in the Butt And i actually didn't have Problems with Cephadrome

    • @mfs96
      @mfs96 Год назад +1

      well, if you new to GU. everything is much easier with Prowler mode (reduces so much grind), especially bomber cats because they have adept dodge. it's also the esiest to fill up the support gauge among all types. by just throwing bombs. Block Cats if you prefers adept block. Fighting cats if you prefers mounting. Collect/Support/Healer cats if you prefers ranged attack,
      the hard parts is searching the cats with the right skills and moves

  • @adamswing6115
    @adamswing6115 Год назад +1

    Lion's maw powers up your next swing

  • @yalauitarik
    @yalauitarik 10 месяцев назад +2

    MHW < MHR < MHGU

  • @scorchpunyasubhan7143
    @scorchpunyasubhan7143 Год назад +1

    Welcome to malfestio, a sickening wizard

  • @thefinalday5858
    @thefinalday5858 Год назад +5

    Dont you just love when streamers refuse to read instructions

  • @Azno43
    @Azno43 Год назад +1

    I miss playing MHGU so much

  • @cmf4706
    @cmf4706 Год назад +3

    My fav MH game is freedom unite always played alone cause of psp being limited lol but I still remember killing my 1st rathalos 😂

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +2

      oh boy, i've heard tales that early gen Rathalos would always stay in the sky and barely touch the ground. Salute to you, Hunter.

    • @cmf4706
      @cmf4706 Год назад +2

      @@MogreciousMalone yee bro shit was intense 😂

    • @kwangt9620
      @kwangt9620 Год назад

      I come from freedom unite too. Nice to meet you! 😁

  • @darkangel97421
    @darkangel97421 Год назад +1

    Both amazing games they just have their own strengths and weakness

  • @ShokudaikiriMitsutada
    @ShokudaikiriMitsutada Год назад +1

    Currently playing MHXX because my friend can't play GU. I literally abandoned all my progress in GU to play XX with him and I don't regret it. Playing MH with friends is always satisfying and fun. haha

    • @AnarickTheDevil
      @AnarickTheDevil 10 месяцев назад

      You guys know that Nintendo are shutting down the multiplayer servers for 3ds in April right? Going to have to transfer to xx on Switch to be able to keep playing together.

    • @ShokudaikiriMitsutada
      @ShokudaikiriMitsutada 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@AnarickTheDevil I've been playing on the Citra emulator since the beginning. I noticed a significant increase in players in the MH and Pokémon rooms after the news about Nintendo shutting down the 3DS online.

  • @goldentamaro1987
    @goldentamaro1987 Год назад +3

    Reason why we choose old game?
    There's a lot monster and more challenging annoying little monster😅

  • @manikaditha6308
    @manikaditha6308 Год назад +1

    Me too came from mhw after 1k hours in that game, i like GU until i touch hypers, i solo the general content up until last boss g4 and each hunt took 10-15 minutes with rank appropriate gear, which is reasonable for solo player, or even faster with monsters i already familiar with in mhw like zino, narga and tigrex but hypers killed my interest, its took too much time for solo players at least 15 minutes for easier one and 20 minutes or more for harder one like silos and deviljho, and they're extremely taxing mentally too, i wish i had switch so i can meet other players easily, with emu, unless you have friends, solo is pretty much the only way

  • @grodd2040
    @grodd2040 11 месяцев назад +2

    Warframe whistle

  • @leonidasvonsparta
    @leonidasvonsparta Год назад +3

    U really should take your time and read the descriptions😅
    They give u important informations. The blue aura if u hold sheathing is also a counter. U can hold it (costs stamina) if u got hit from a monster u fill the bar pretty fast and after that u got powerfull moves and other stuff (depends on the weapon)

  • @smitty7326
    @smitty7326 8 месяцев назад

    I started with Rise, then went backwards into World and GU. GU is holding my attention way more than World.

  • @plaguedr.crowvin3349
    @plaguedr.crowvin3349 Год назад +2

    The sudden appearance of bloodbath Diablos at the end….. I wonder if you know what game he appears in.

  • @jaimerojas6578
    @jaimerojas6578 7 месяцев назад

    I just started playing this one, I started with World, Then Rise and now GU, seems pretty fun really.

  • @DarkWinterRex
    @DarkWinterRex Год назад +1

    Tbh, the hitboxes are so thin. i can barely hit it with adept gunlance. the moveset is so stiff. i had hard time to adjust. and no claw hook...how can i approach the monster. 2 stars monster struggle big time. faint 2 times and barely able to hunt with full herbs and hp potion, mega potions.

  • @Phos679
    @Phos679 Год назад +1

    Congrats on 100 subs! Tho you should honestly have more

  • @PokeBurnPlease
    @PokeBurnPlease 8 месяцев назад

    As someone who played MH Freedoom till Freedoom Unite alot on PSP back in his Childhood and skipped Tri - MHGU i cant go back from Rise and World.
    It might sound stupid but that i have to gather multiple times my herbs with a long ass animation just kills the fun for me. I dont like having to farm this stuff and really enjoy the aporach of Rise where you just click A once and have gathered everything.

  • @AstonMartinStig
    @AstonMartinStig 9 месяцев назад +1

    Currently G3 in GU. This game is so fucken hard compared to world and especially rise.

  • @Omaha555
    @Omaha555 8 месяцев назад

    i played freedom unite as a kid, missed gen 3 & 4, recently put 300 hrs into world iceborne. i really want to play 4U, but i don’t have a pc to emulate on/ 3ds 😢

  • @speexfire98ita16
    @speexfire98ita16 Год назад +2

    As a Gs main... DON'T OVERCHARGE THE HIT GOD FKING DAMMIT

  • @juicey2876
    @juicey2876 Год назад +1

    "should we butcher this guy up" 😭

  • @eligonzales186
    @eligonzales186 6 месяцев назад +1

    MHGU masterrace

  • @Colton42-d7b
    @Colton42-d7b Год назад +1

    Tips for valor mode you can hold the sheath and take a hit and it dodges for you and u should try valor greatsword it’s amazing

  • @blue4006
    @blue4006 Год назад +1

    Oh my old memories ...❤ but im started play on Mh1 ps2 😂
    Btw our attack in ps2 is the left joystick 😂

  • @KindredLamby
    @KindredLamby Год назад +1

    Hey man. Loved the video, subscribing and hoping for more. If you ever wanna play the game with someone, I'm open for it.

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад

      well you see my "switch" doesnt allow for multiplayer content...

    • @KindredLamby
      @KindredLamby Год назад +1

      Oh, I see lmfao. Well, you won't see me telling on ya ;)

  • @alexgalays910
    @alexgalays910 10 месяцев назад +1

    Did you follow any particular tutorial/etc to setup the game on PC?
    Something I find hard to stomach in old gens are the loads times/cuts and the very poor, flat levels.

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  10 месяцев назад

      nah not really i just booted up the game on my "switch"

  • @OffBrandJoestar
    @OffBrandJoestar Год назад +1

    00:25 "Waltuhh"

  • @elijahbuell1501
    @elijahbuell1501 Год назад +3

    Where did you manage to get a "legal copy" of MHGU?

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +3

      my "dealer" is very secretive and doesn't tell me where he gets them.

  • @NPTEEE
    @NPTEEE Год назад +3

    Not sure what you are playing it on, but to fully appreciate MHGU you gotta play it at 4k/120fps. It's so unbelievably responsive and crisp looking. All the combat complaints go away for me.

  • @KingfAce-qb9xk
    @KingfAce-qb9xk Год назад +2

    Is that fortuna song?

  • @cartoonvideos5
    @cartoonvideos5 Год назад +1

    1:22 what song is that? Not the WF one but the guy with dual blades.

  • @OMGYOUARER8GHT
    @OMGYOUARER8GHT Год назад +1

    This video is huge bait of New players by World who went to play MHGU,thats right i am one of them

  • @notdotuna
    @notdotuna Год назад +1

    first impressions are not enough, as you progress to highrank and then g rank, you will understand why veteran hunters are so bitter

  • @Kn8shade
    @Kn8shade Год назад +1

    what's the dinosaur song used?

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад

      Akmu - dinosaur. This song is the greatest dinosaur song ever to be made

  • @isotoade
    @isotoade Год назад +1

    you should *cough* tell us where u acquired your official copy *cough*

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +1

      Why i got it from the official nintendo store of course :)

  • @kittkitsune
    @kittkitsune Год назад +1

    Moofah > Poogie

  • @thecringeprophet
    @thecringeprophet Год назад +1

    Greatsword? Based. Dual blades? Cringe.

  • @sazo1st
    @sazo1st Месяц назад +1

    My switch is also special🥰 (i was hardware banned)

  • @tw7092
    @tw7092 Год назад +1

    How did you even manage to play this through the "legal" mean? I've tried and it was a massive pain

  • @nenenenenedudududu
    @nenenenenedudududu 11 месяцев назад +1

    harold might be the worst name for a guy ever

  • @samyt681
    @samyt681 2 месяца назад

    gunlance

  • @RenoKyrie
    @RenoKyrie Год назад +2

    I personally love MHGU more over Rise/Sunbreak
    Rise/Sunbreak just feel.... awful in a lot of areas, except the Dogs and Switchskills exist(But Wirebugs and Wireskills are just awful)
    Both of the 5th Gen games are not great compared to the Older games(4U especially is my favorite) but id rather play World/Iceborne over Rise/Sunbreak because the endgame is actually good and i love the game balance more(With my only hatred is Clutch Claw, especially Tenderizing)

    • @theazureeyedaassassin885
      @theazureeyedaassassin885 Год назад +3

      Rise just has no tension. At no point in any fight do you actually get scared of the monsters you're fighting

    • @diannerenard
      @diannerenard Год назад

      IMHO, World hit the sweet spot between modernizing the franchise but not make it too easy and action-ish.
      Rise, as fun as it is, goes too fast and both hunter and monsters alike move too fast with the hunter winning more due how busted some switch skills are plus wirebug making mistakes very forgiving.

  • @animeisreal8492
    @animeisreal8492 10 месяцев назад

    bro you couldve used 4k texture pack and 120fps mod

  • @dadadabest2237
    @dadadabest2237 Год назад +1

    As a Gunlance user... GenU is the worst MH game😑

  • @godmonkeghg
    @godmonkeghg 7 дней назад

    cool

  • @andipajeroking
    @andipajeroking Год назад +2

    Play 3.
    Then we ll talk😅

  • @WspiDigits
    @WspiDigits Год назад +3

    Started with 4 ultimate, and the new games don't compare, realistic graphics without anime flare is boring...so is realistic gameplay without the flare.
    No more mandatory flexing pose for drinking potions is a weird one for me...ha ha
    Feels weird it's gone but, its better off I think... idk

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +1

      Don't forget the belly rub after eating a well-done steak lol. I'd personally be ok with the flex pose coming back but that might just be me and 3 other people who think so as well

    • @Spearhead401
      @Spearhead401 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@MogreciousMalonethey need to add both back as gestures, if i cant flex after a potion ill flex after hunting the monster lol.

  • @arshameghtedary344
    @arshameghtedary344 10 месяцев назад

    i thought it was a review of someone who moved from MHW to MHGU, buts its just someone just doing tutorials and making noise >.> BORING

  • @euphoricnostalgia8834
    @euphoricnostalgia8834 8 месяцев назад +1

    4u is my favorite because i started ther but gu i have the most hours in a mh game i love gu so much, HH guild style is my bread a butter

    • @Chriso22
      @Chriso22 2 месяца назад

      4U was my first to I haven't played genU though because I don't got a switch only got gen on 3ds

  • @FuadLive
    @FuadLive Год назад +1

    worse

  • @luzortiz4962
    @luzortiz4962 Год назад +1

    Nope, I never played and I never will, I prefer MHW

  • @thetechrealist
    @thetechrealist Год назад +1

    I was gonna like the video but any video that encourages piracy is gay…..

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +4

      i don't encourage it but buying a separate console just for one game is a little much for anyone...

  • @chito2701
    @chito2701 Год назад +1

    GENERATIONS ULTIMATE is OVERRATED, play 4 ULTIMATE instead it's the best MONSTER HUNTER GAME peak monster hunter without bullshit hunting style valor bullshit.

    • @MogreciousMalone
      @MogreciousMalone  Год назад +2

      I think a large majority of people in this comment section will disagree with you lmao, but me personally, I kinda like valor 🗿

    • @mfs96
      @mfs96 Год назад +3

      just Do a guild style with no hunter arts then. the only good thing about 4u is the story and exploration

  • @UberMcNasty
    @UberMcNasty 2 месяца назад

    GU might be the best MH ever made other than frontier