The best record cleaning brush ever made | ORIGINAL DISCWASHER D4 REVISITED
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- Revisiting the D4 Discwasher record cleaning system. Once a staple in every living room across North America, this may be the best record cleaning brush ever made. I highly recommend picking one up. If you don't want to buy used, the Groovewasher (links below) is a modern record cleaning brush that comes close to the Discwasher.
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My great uncle invented discwasher. He died a year ago. I just got his record player set up and working at home. I'm really glad you guys like his products. Hopefully he'll be remembered through them for many years to come.
Sorry to hear about your granduncle's passing. His product is excellent. Thank you for the comment.
Is there any chance you have any discwashers for sale?
This is really cool! I had a disc washer kit in the 80s. I just purchased another one like my old one from ebay!
I just realized they went around anymore while looking for a stylus brush for my daughter. The brushes made these days are crap. At least I still have mine.
I used to work there in the mid to late 70’s at the original woodworking factory making the discwashers. They were made of walnut back then and we would get some really beautiful wood coming through there. First stop the ripsaw, then the molder, the router and sander. Then off to the lacquer room where the color of the wood really came out, some of the patterns and colors were gorgeous! Then they were sent about 15 to 20 miles away to have the pads put on and packaged and shipped. Really great work experience. Great job.
This is a fantastic story! I just purchased one to replace my old one. Thanks for posting this. 😎
I still have, and use my original Discwasher that I bought back in 1975.... I'll never get rid of it..
I have used the Discwasher system since 1969. It is (was) a great product. When you use it, first apply the front or leading edge to the record as you demonstrated. After about three revolutions or approximately 10 seconds rotate the pad to its' center position and complete three more revolutions on the record. Then rotate the pad to the trailing edge of the pad for another three revolutions. You should not rotate it from the from to back over and over. And remember, clean the brush on a lint free pad or use the small brush stroking backwards trailing edge to leading edge. Let the Discwasher dry before returning to the box.
As I said, I have used mine for over 55 years without any problem. My old solution which is now almost gone (I bought several large bottles) still works great. A new solution you want to look for is one that is at least 2 minimum and 4 times distilled water with a surfactant that will not hurt vinyl and help remove debris. I would recommend Mobile Fidelity Super Record Wash.
Hey Frank; I have had a Discwasher D4 since the early 80s that I inherited from my Uncle. Interesting story... my boss sent me a picture of his record player that he was looking to get rid of. As I already own a few players already, I was not interested. Yet, when looking at the picture I noticed a Discwasher with the stand and matching stylus cleaner. This I was interested in. I asked him what he was doing with that and he was going to just toss it in the Valu-Village pile he had going. Needless to say, I rescued it from certain doom and now it sits proudly with my record equipment. I had never been able to find such a complete kit ever... fate shined on me that day. Discwasher... greatest record cleaning brush ever.
Awesome story Kent. Glad you got it.
Yes, I still have mine that I bought when I was a junior in high school in 1978.
Had one in the 70's along with the wooden handle folding stylus brush that also had a magnifying mirror opposite the brush. Now, 50 years later that I'm getting back into vinyl I wish I had kept the whole kit. Thanks for the trip back into time. :)
I have my father's Discwasher brush, the stylus brush, and empty D4 and SC2 bottles from 1981. I just bought a second Discwahser set that includes the Zerostat gun. You're absolutely correct, these brushes are the best!
I used to have a zero stat. Loved the ozone smell. Then one day the trigger handle broke at the pivot and not repairable.
I was a teen in the 80s and my dad allowed me to play his prized record collection, which was substantially large, and which included many awesome classics from the previous several decades. And he taught me how to use the Discwasher system, and he ensured that I was doing it exactly right...otherwise, no records for me!
1) When you demonstrated the record cleaning, you rocked the brush both directions...I was taught to just rock it slowly one time from the leading edge to the trailing edge over the course of 5-10 revolutions, but to never rock it back towards the leading edge again to help ensure that captured debris doesn't get back onto the cleaned record surface.
2) Why do you think the GrooveWasher brush with "just" microfiber cloth and no oriented fibers cleans better than the RCA Discwasher which does have oriented fibers (albeit not the same as the original, but still oriented nonetheless)? I have no experience with either, but I'm just wondering because it seems to me that oriented fibers would be more effective at getting down into the grooves and lifting out debris, and keeping hold of that debris, than an omni-directional microfiber cloth like on the GooveWasher brush. Thoughts? Experiences?
THANKS!
Still use mine from the 80s and it does work better than any of my others.
I sold audio in the late 70's and early 80's I own the deluxe kit with stylus brush and zerostat gun in a clear covered wooden base. still works still use it to this day.
Even I have this Zerostat anti-static gun which gives really good sound quality.
Bhalchandra Lagu stops the static pops and keeps dust off the record
That's cool. I would love to find the stand/base one day. I love my Zerostat as well. Sure does a good job.
Frank
Place a air purifier ionizer near your cleaning and near closest possible to the record player
I sold 100's of these at businesses I worked at in the 1980's out in SoCal. I also owned the kit since the 1970's. The DiscWasher was truly the standard in our industry. It's unbelievable today how many knockoffs are being sold at such an incredibly inflated price.
Yes. Still use mine I got in the 70s. They also made a stylus cleaning tool and solution. Both work great.
Still have my kit and it still going strong after 41 years. even the zapper staill zaps.
*Me too! I bought mine using a mail order form on the back of a music magazine. My dad gave me the stamp and envelope to send it... right after he told me I should be saving my allowance.*
I have a discwasher I bought in the 80’s in the original box with the original “Licorice Pizza” record store logo-ed price tag $16.50 US (which was like $1million to me back then). For fluid I fill the original D4 bottle with AT634Record Care Solution. Love it.
Ha! I have pretty much the same setup (incl. AT634 in a D3 bottle!) My box, though, like Frank's is the Canadian bilingual packaging
❤Discwasher! Have collected a bunch through the years!
I have the original Discwasher set up from the 80s!! Also came with a stylus brush/mirror with cleaner fluid. Love it! glad I found this with a good replacement for the fluid! Thanks for the awesome content!!
Hi Frank, you are absolutely correct, the original D4 was the very best record cleaning brush ever, still have mine that was bought in 1980. Still use it even though all of my records get the ultrasonic treatment before they hit the turntable. Regards from Australia to you and all C33 devotees.
Wow! I have a couple that are at least 15 to 20 years old. Not sure why stopped using them. I should try them again.
@@danielsteward9703 I do think you should consider trying them again. I will only stop using mine when it falls apart, which does not look like happening any time soon. When DW finally goes to brush heaven I will give it a permanent place on my cleaning shelf in a clear display case.
I still have the same discwasher I bought in 1981 or so, and I also have a second that I bought 5 years later when I thought my first one was lost. I still use the original. I'm saving the second for the day the first one gets worn. So far the first one is still in really great shape at almost 40 years old!
I too have the set with the zero stat mirror for stylus inspection and cool wooden block and covered plastic case I always envied my uncle's as a kid since I only had the brush simple box set then. About a year ago was having my car fixed at an individual's house and spotted the set sitting on a shelf alone. Bought it for 25 and then in weeks to come he had a yard sale and called me to have 1st shot at his albums super score picked up some jems and amazingly clean. I also remember having d2 d3 and d4 solutions and still have a d3 bottle although its empty. Love your vids frank welcome back and thanks for helping to keep us informed and of course spinning.
Exactly! I Still have my Complete set since day 1! It's Excellent!!!😉
I live in Columbia, Missouri home of the original Discwasher factory. I use a carbon fiber brush for everyday dusting. If I come across a record with a lot of static I use my trusty Discwasher dampened with a little distilled water.
What brand brush? Also does it damage your records?
Frank, great video, and I have my father's disc washer brush. Yes, it still works better than many of these modern types.
I use it for pre-play with a light mist of regeant grade water. I brush it clean with a nail cleaning brush before use. The slight dampness helps to remove static and helps pick up more dust. The directional pad makes the original Disc Washer the best brush for this purpose. I have proven this by inspection under intense right angle LED light. I still like and use Carbon Fiber brushes, sometimes in combination but I can still see tiny bits of dust on the record using a carbon fiber brush alone. For complete record cleaning I use a multi step process with multiple fluids useing both vacum and ultrasonic methods.
Hi Frank!
I used one of these long ago when I was playing and collecting records in my youth.
Needless to say that when I got a chance to make a music room (in progress) I bought a few versions of the Discwasher cleaning system on Ebay. I have 2 of them now. The brush and then one of the deluxe set that came with the zerostat gun and covered stand to keep everything in. I bought a spinclean as well but haven't used it yet. But I plan on cleaning up my dirtier records one day.
Good job Frank as usual!
Hey Frank, you make a great point about using the Discwasher primarily for light cleaning. I was lucky enough to get one back in 1981 when I bought my first multiple component stereo. Still have it today completely intact with the mini-brush and the fluid storage container.It cost 20 bucks at the time. I guess I always had some nostalgia about it, ha, ha. Great to see you do a feature on. The box I have is unilingual but I really dig the bilingual version box.
Michael Fremer from Analogue Planet recommends using the brush the way you illustrated. Cheers !
Got my first Discwasher, Zerostat and Stylus Cleaner back in '74 or '75 and still use it today constantly. I have 6 turntables I keep in rotation, so it gets a lot of use. The original brush is a bit worn and I bought another one in the 80's which is still in good shape. I wouldn't use anything other the Discwasher stylus cleaner either, it's excellent. I have been buying records since the 60's and all the records that I bought new are in great shape, so Discwasher system must be doing something right. Great channel, except for using 'Vinyl' all the time, makes me want to yaak. They have always been records or LP's to me.
I always used to call them records as well. I figured vinyl was a newer term until I recently re-read one of my old Hit Parader magazines from 1986, and they repeatedly refered to "vinyl." I thought that was interesting. Very cool that you hung on to your Discwasher!
I still have my first one from the '70s and inherited one from brother in-law, it's all I'll ever use.
I still have my Discwasher from back in the day. The box is long gone.
I had a housemate in school who claimed that the D4 solution was water distilled 4 times.
Tell him he's wrong; it's CLEARLY quadruple distilled!
I have 1 of those brushes it was handed down to me from my wifes Grandma when she passed away. Does an amazing job and love the box it comes in.😀
Great analogy "like petting your dog."
I've been a lifelong Discwasher user, think I have about half-dozen of 'em, like you I have stopped using the D4 fluid and have been using the Groovewasher fluid. I like the Groovewasher fluid a lot!
Groovewasher is amazing and apparently is formulated by the same guy who did the D4.
Is it true that the liquid leaves behind residue?
@@nirvanarocks83 I suppose anytime you are wiping/brushing a fluid into grooves and not physically removing the liquid via vacuum or air... then yes it is possible for residue to be left behind.
I find it best to use as little fluid as possible and needed, and again this is for "dusting and/or surface cleaning." You probably wouldn't want to use Discwashers and D4/Groovewasher as a "deep clean method."
But, all in all, I have never felt like D4 or Groovewasher left behind anything detrimental, most all records are better after use of these fluids and brushes. My opinion here, your results may vary.
Still have mine from 1976. I use distilled water now but it still cleans the grimiest disks. I follow up with a carbon brush and filtered air.
I found a pristine discwasher set at a used goods store. I think it was $5. Works perfectly.
I still have mine and used it today. I have extra fluid too!
I still have mine in like new condition. Bought in 1978 when I purchased my Dual TT, and stereo set up.
And still use it every time I pull out an old LP to play! I don't use the old D4 liquid cleaner, distilled water works without any residue.
I’ve been using the Mofi brush with the replaceable micro fiber pads. I use it in conjunction with the Phoenix with enzymes, liquid cleaner. I keep a spray bottle with distilled water to thoroughly rinse the record. It works great for me! I also keep a “Swiffer” handheld duster to to use before each play. Thanks for the great videos!😀
I don't rock mine back and forth. I put the fluid on the leading hump, start with the dry part before it, transition to the wet part and continue a single, steady rotation back to the ending dry edge. Rocking back and forth puts any dust you may have captured back onto the surface.
I bought my first Discwasher D4 and Zerostat Gun in the mid 70s. Bought a second one early 80s. Since getting back into vinyl I still use my Discwasher sets. Almost 50 years old and still working great!!
love it...got mine in the 70's.....peace...rocky
I even have discwasher anti-static gun to remove static particles away from the LP.
Great video Frank! I actually have three. I leave one with each of my turntables.
Hey Frank...noticed at the end your TT was a Hitachi PS-48. I just picked up one of these about 5 months and it is an ABSOLUTE BEAST!!! Traded in my Rega Planar 2 and got my Hitachi and a Nagaoka MP-110 and could not be happier...vintage is the way to go for sound and looks!
Keep up the great videos...
You really did your homework on Discwasher. These come into my shop all the time. Thank you for the quick education :)
Glad to be if assistance! Hope the new store (location) is doing well. I watch most of your vids, but don't often comment (because I stream RUclips to my TV, and once I get back to my computer, I forget what IU was going to say, lol).
Cheers
Frank
Yes Dishwasher Brush ,I had 2 bought my first in the 70s ,then I had another one which i still used.Nothing beats it ,hands down.Im 68 been into stereo albums and equipment since my High School days.Great video my man.
I still have and use my D4 brush that I purchased in the early 80's. Only use it for records that I know are only lightly dusty or dirty. I never had luck with the D4 fluid as it seemed to make my records sound noisier. I always use the brush dry, but that does sometimes cause the static to build up!
I recently used a spin clean to wash all my LPs. Treated them all with “Last” record preservative. Now I only use a carbon fiber brush to remove any dust, etc before each play. Even 50 year old albums sound terrific.
I inherited a D2 Discwasher from my wife’s uncle who was an engineer at Columbia Records. Right now, I have 1 RCA (worthless), 1 D4 that i got for free which is more like the RCA brush than the previous generations. I use 1 D3 in the basement. I have 2 D2’s which I take to work and to record stores for cleaning records before I buy. I also have two of the Holy Grail Original Discwasher brushes on my SL1200. I use the GrooveWasher solution which is pretty much the best cleaning solution I’ve used. I regularly source these brushes off eBay and Facebook Marketplace, for under 15 dollars. You can find them; just be patient.
Several years ago, I bought a number of vintage Discwasher D4 record cleaners with the D4 solution and original box and they are easily the best record cleaners out there and as Frank mentioned, the RCA Discwasher kits made in the 1990's/early 2000's were junk made in China that did a really poor job of cleaning records, so use the vintage kits with directional fabric that makes a huge difference.
Thanks, I just bought one from ebay. It has the D3 solution though.
I still have mine from the 1970's. Still like new.
Quite informative. Thank you! I actually use the Groove Washer Commando Kit without the brush. I purchased it at one of my local record stores (The Record Lounge in Reno Town, near Lansing, here in Michigan). It was $13 for the kit and $5 for the record-size cloth to lay the record on while you clean it. Great product!
I live in Waterford, MI. It's near Pontiac. A few minutes from my house was A harmony House, where I bought all my albums. But now, I know of no record stores near me.
@@marty3888 - I’m not sure of Waterford record stores, but we have a few in Flint, 1 in Clio, 1 in Lapeer, 2 in Owosso, 1 in Bay City and a few in Saginaw.
Hey I like your channel!. So I'm 51 y. O. & Used to DJ at a couple of clubs in the late 80's-90's. I recently met a guy who offers to sell me two Technics SL-1200MKII DJ turntables in mint condition. Had to get them for my home vinyl collection. You would not believe the deal I got them for. Keep Spinning
I have this same brush with me, bought during 1980 - 1985.
I still use mine. Bought it in 1977. I have a bunch of other brushes I've acquired via various means. If I could only keep one, this would be it.
Yup, my brush as well...bought in 1981, never looked back. Still use it all the time!
Those are the BEST!
Hi Frank, I put the GrooveWasher fluid in my D4 bottle and use it just like the D4 fluid. It works great and way more convenient.
Good tip. Thanks Tony!
I do love my Spin Clean for deep cleaning. Especially useful for yard sale finds.
Also finally looking at upgrading my cartridge. I bought a really nice Technics SL-3300 direct drive table that has more bells and whistles on it that literally any modern table for a VERY reasonable price. It originally sold for $250 US in 1977. Keep in mind minimum wage in the US at the time was $2.30/hr. So this thing wasn't entry level by any means. It would sell for around $700 US today. I may end up posting a photo of the control panel for this thing. It's nuts but I use lierally every feature. Anyway, when this thing was refurbished they used a cheap stock $20 cartridge. Like the one on the Victrola you got. I finally got to the point where I justified spending double what I paid for the table for a new cartridge. Here's my logic a replacement stylus for my setup costs ~$10. They really need changed every 6 months or sooner. Most $200 carts come with a stylus rated for 5000-8000 hours play time. This is upwards of 5 years normal use. Therefore the cost ratio balances out and I'll get better quality to boot.
I use the discwasher. Before the discwasher there was a Watts Parostatik Disc Preener. It was round tub about the size of the record. It had a fabric like felt.with soft foam under it it also had a wic in the center that you added a small amount of water to. It cleaned the dust and removed some of the static.
About 98 percent of my record collection just has minor surface dust that i remove with a dry record cleaning brush. I might pick up an original disc washer brush to use for the ones that are a little dirtier. Thank you for sharing this great record cleaning tool with us.
Thanks for the shout out, Frank!
O U T S T A N D I N G ! Excellent / professional show-and-tell video w/ great comments. Kudos. Much obliged for sharing.
Thank you very much! I'm glad you dug the video.
Frank
My procedure is to use the D4, the a carbon anti-static brush and then clean the needle. Clean and silent. The new D4 brush is as good as they come. Love the written instruction. Bill
Great video. I also bought mine in either the late seventies or early 80s. Still have it to this day as well.
I'll have to keep an eye out for spares at either a garage sale or an estate sale.
I started with the RCA brush. I feel it does pretty good but also have a Spin Clean that I use when I get a new album. I use the brush for lighter cleanings.
Thank you for the info, yes the new one is not as good, the old one is good yes.
Directional, like all my audio cables, I kid, I kid.
If the Groovewasher doesn't have the directional fabric, It's just another brush. The directional fabric is the whole point. I was a hi-fi salesman when I bought mine. Us salespeople experimented with everything we sold during slow times. That includes the "carbon fiber" brushes that came out later. I have one, but only because it came with a turntable I bought used. Even in our experiments back in the 70's, the discwasher was obviously superior.
And now I just use one of those electronic lighters for lighting candles as a cheap "zero stat". Between that and the old Discwasher, I have everything I need - other than deep cleaning at the kitchen sink.
Just got back into DJing and started to dig out my old vinyl collection and came across my discwasher with D4+ solution purchased back in the mid-80s. Surprised I still had solution in the bottle. . . lol. I'll probably retire the D4+ solution and go with the Groovewasher solution you recommended. Thanks!
Great job Frank in the late 80's I worked for Recoton shortly in the early 90's we purchased Dishwasher among some other companies like Jensen , Acoustic Research. When In 2002 Recoton filed and RCA took over the Dischwasher brand and cheapened the product and changed the formula.Still use it today along with the MoFi brush.
Very cool! That would have been a fun job.
I used to have a Dishwasher, but now I use a Spin Clean and static brush. Great results for me.
I love my Spin Clean as well!
I use the Groovewasher first then follow it up with my Discwasher. I still have half of a large bottle of the D-4 but I use my Groovewasher solution. I kept the D-4 bottle as a keepsake.
I've had these D4 discwasher pads since the '80's (have 3 of them). Still what I use to clean records to this day, although I've been using the newer D4 fluid that RCA sells now, it seems to work just fine.....
I use the Groovewasher exactly the same way I used the Dishwasher. I use the Nitty Gritty cleaning fluid since it is readily available in store in my area
The D4 was THE record cleaner for every DJ - be it in a club or home set up.
I just bought a NOS Discwasher earlier today. I checked with the seller and the set seems to be from 2000, when Recoton owned the Discwasher brand and before the low-quality RCA brush came along. The brush is identical to the original D4 brush but the fabric is tan instead of black. Wish me luck.
I just recently came across a NOS DiscSet (containing the black-fabric Discwasher, D4+ fluid, the SC-2 stylus cleaner and cleaning fluid), so I ordered that too. Maybe I'll make a comparison of the two.
I found my bottle of D4+ in my desk drawer and "googled" to reach your website. A good find for me and I just subscribed. Raised in the 1940s, I grew up listening to my father's collection of classical music on 78 RPM discs, and later I collected old one-sided 78 discs and the two sided ones.
Comment: On this website, you list the D4+ ingredietns as "Dishwasher fluid ingredients". Whoops! You spelled discwasher wrong.
I like using a paint edger from Home Depot/Lowes. It's soft, has thousand of hairs that get everywhere. It can bring records that look like they were on the floor at a mosh pit back to life. My old lady thrifted a ratty dusty copy of "A Man and A Woman" soundtrack (I know, right...I like Priest, Budgie, GBH, Accept records..chicks). It sounded great with a few crackles. I think it gets in scratches too and cleans the debris as you go with the grooves.. I saw it on another record collector channel (SupraWes). Works GREAT.
Hey man I had one of those brushes or one similar to it I'm back in the 80s. I'm always looking for new ways to clean my records so thanks for sharing this!! And don't be mad at that doggie!!! Lol. He was just being a puppy. Hope all is well with you and your family Frank. Peace
Haha, yeah I WAS mad at the dog, but I quickly got over it. He's my buddy. Named him Hendrix. He's a rescue from Mexico.
Cheers Rod
Frank
@@Channel33RPM my dog is a rescue but she's a rescue from a Tennessee hillbilly...lol had her 10 years now. Peace
Funny thing, I have a RCA one I picked up brand-new but I think it was made wrong. 🤔 Yes I think it was. The concept is simple. Fibers go one way but mine do in the wrong direction. I think. When I rub my fingers on it I should feel it grab in a direction. It does but only along the long part. That doesn't make since to me. It should be going against the record in the opposite direction of the arrow.
My comment doesn't make since I know 🤣
I'll explain in my next video I guess.
Have a great week Frank
Hi Franks. That is one awesome looking brush. Also shows they knew all about vinyl in seventies. It got downhill after that ;) Cheers. /Paul
LOL! I had one of those in the 70’s. Worked great!
Discwasher brush is great. I use it with distilled water alcohol mix manually on clean microfiber towel. Clean both sides. The spin clean with distilled water and a bit of alcohol . Then vacuum clean both sides at once!
Luckily I found an original new/old stock Discwasher brush some years ago, even in the old box, which is fabulous, still looks as new.
I have two like the ones that were sent to you. One I've had since the early eighties, the other I found at a charity shop recently for just $2. Both are in excellent condition and work great. They really are better than any other brush I've used.
I agree!
I have the dishwasher cleaning kit which comes with zero stat gun and stylus cleaner. It’s housed in a walnut base with smoked plastic cover. Now I’m using vpi 16.5 vacuum record cleaning machine.
I have my moms’ old Discwasher D4, but it doesn’t have the instructions, so it looks like I’ve been using it wrong for years (didn’t know about the rotation to the dry spot. Thanks for showing the manual). The wood and fabric are in perfect condition, but the cardboard box has some teeth marks, courtesy of Dougie, the guinea pig I had back in back in the 90s.
Since the original D4+ it had fluid ran out decades ago, I use a cleaning solution that my local record store makes.
Glad to be of assistance.
Frank
My Dad has that kit downstairs in the basement next to his Dual turntable.
Dual doesn't get enough love. They made great turntables in the 60s, 70s and 80s.
@@AndyBHome I am rediscovering all his old hardware helping him get ready to move. It's amazing the stuff he has sitting in boxes.
The original Discwasher is excellent & still have a couple that I use. But I find the black brushes & one-step solution from Mofi a little better. I don't use the pricey, noisy machines.
Loved this, but must admit we hadn’t heard of the dishwasher system. Still haven’t pulled the trigger on the Spin Clean, just couldn’t justify the $79 for what you get. However, we do use the Groove Washer you recommended years ago and does a great job. It’s tackled everything. We haven’t had any vinyl that were too terribly bad of shape fortunately.-Chris🎧
Make sure you tune into my video in two weeks as I will be also discussing the Discwasher in greater detail and a better way to utilize it as I’ve had one for almost 40 years. There will also be more Classic record accessories and Classic cassette tape accessories. You will be seeing some things no one has ever shown!
There was one reason why the Diskwasher was directional, if you wash the records "backwards" via the brush you could release dust and vinyl shavings back onto the record surface. Personally I would place a small mark on the new system and continue to clean records directionally as in the old system.
I use the Groove washer and so far so good, thanks for the informational video.
I use a carbon/velours como brush for cleaning dust and for heavy cleaning a solution and a very good (and cheap) microfiber cloth. Except the cloth bought both products from the same guy on a vinyl record fair here in Belgium. Very satisfied with them.
For totally grimy records, mostly from thrift stores and used shops, I use a sink shower and (no kidding) 2-in-1 shampoo applied with a foam brush (new, of course). A couple small drops on a wet record, brushed in lightly, let sit for a moment, rinse and maybe a final rinse of distilled or reverse osmosis water and the grime is lifted and rinsed away...Spin Clean after is optional.
I've thought about getting the current Groovewasher in the past, but I passed up on that system for the Gruv Glide system, which comes with two microfiber pads and some special aerosol spray stuff. Works pretty well.
Frank, have you ever used Gruvglide before? Most users swear by it. Definitely reduces or removes static.
Frank, have you tried the new pad that Groovewasher came out with? It is still not directional, but it is a finer fabric and cleans much better than the original Groovewasher. Also, I wonder if part of Discwasher's patent was the directional fabric of the pad.
I have the original Discwasher brush with the pad cleaning brush, stylus brush, red D4 bottle and wood storing case to store it all. I also have the original box and instruction booklet that came with it.
I've got dishwasher
D4. Got project record cleaner machine for first play..new and second hand. Only 480aus$.
Back in the 70’s I used the same solution, but a brush, pad attached to the turntable and cleaned the record as it played worked great, but wore out.
They also made the best demagnetizer ever for tape decks. Not the one that looks like a gun but the one that was an actual cassette that you fast forward and rewind to demagnetize.
Discwasher is too time consuming for regular use. I used to use the original version only on very dirty/grimmy records and then left it to rest for most of the time. I eventually sold it with no regrets.
To effectively remove dust, I now use a much quicker method; I lightly spray distilled water on my carbon fibre brush and lift it off using a sweeping method. Removes 95% of dust, no print left and resolves static issue. Quick and easy