The complexity of Miles’ relationship with Gwen. It’s a long-distance friendship that obviously wants to be more, and they both know it, but neither knows how to express that want, and there are myriad things in the way of them realizing that next step. She enjoys his company and is more comfortable with him than anyone else in her life, and he’s just as smitten but with more optimism about their chances since he doesn’t know Gwen Stacy’s tragic history with Spider-Man. To borrow from Shakespeare, Gwen sees their relationship as Romeo and Juliet, whereas Miles sees them more as Beatrice and Benedick from “Much Ado About Nothing.” They work almost perfectly in concert with each other as they swing through the city and later in Mumbattan when shit goes sideways, after which she tells him she’s always thought he was amazing, and it’s the understated delivery by Hailee Steinfeld that really sells Gwen’s feelings for Miles more than anything else in movie. If the self-loathing opening narration, the bear hug she gives him upon reuniting, and all the little physical touches she makes weren’t enough, that line should leave no doubt. And even after the betrayal mentioned in the opening narration, when he has every reason to cut her off, I still believe Miles loves her enough to forgive her, because I’m a hopeless romantic like that.
I watched the movie a second time with a friend of mine a couple weeks ago. I already knew she was gonna move, so this was our last full in person experience with each other. For that reason, the Miles and Gwen scene where they are just happy to see each other again after a year is really heartwarming, and it gives me hope for the future of the friendship. (That and bro Miles and Gwen are so cute together like come on now😭)
i never thought about the fact that Gwen and Miles friendship could mirror long distance friendship. a year ago, my best friend at the time left for the air force after we both graduated from high school. i never pictured the main duo in this movie as a reflection of him and me, and now that i do i wanna watch it again (for the third time)
I can’t speak to that level but yeah it’s interesting and it gives the viewer more to connect with with the movie. Glad it could connect with you on that level and glad you liked the movie!
The theme that goes through both movies that resonates with me the most is a strained relationship with your father. My dad reminds me of Jeff in a lot of ways, and the way we see him stuggle to connect with Miles at the beginning of the first movie is almost the exact relationship my dad and I have. This is reinforced in the second movie by Miles only being able to really talk to his dad with the mask on as it feels like I almost have to put one on, reinforced even more through Gwen's relationship with her dad. There's honestly a lot of relatable aspects and it's amazing to see how layered it gets the deeper you look.
Absolutely! It’s cool to hear your perspective because I hadn’t thought all that much about that side of these movies (the mask thing in particular is a really cool parallel I hadn’t noticed until your comment) and it’s cool that that aspect resonated with you.
@@TitleInProgress Yeah it hits even closer to home cause Miles is black and I am too, so when I say his dad acts exactly like my dad, I mean that in every sense 😂. My dad is a pastor and it can sometimes be hard to talk to him about normal stuff, unless I "put the mask on" and use his type of talk to help him understand what I'm going through. The mask while Miles talks to his dad helps him to be level with his dad since they're both crime fighters and his dad listens to him then. We can see how this is the symbolism when Gwen gives her speech to her dad about how the mask is her badge and she wants to wear it the way he does, which opens the door to them reconciling from their fall out. It really is a deep symbolism that I'm glad they put words and visuals to, because it's something you never realize other people go through until it's published like that.
@@UltimateTS64 and when Miles is talking to his dad as Spider-Man his dad actually listens to him because he repeats Miles saying he needs to “spread his wings” near the end of the movie. I thought it was cool that Miles could talk to his dad in that way but this take on the theme is more interesting and makes the movie that much more impressive! Also it’s good that you can communicate with your dad, even if you have to metaphorically put the mask on.
i think what's even better is that being around other spider people was something miles wanted in the first movie but now that's he's there, he doesn't feel like he fits in with them. these are people who are supposed to understand him in a way that literally no one else can, but they antagonize him and make him feel unwelcome instead
it’s weird though because it’s only the third movie I’ve seen in theaters this year, but the movie is really great, as seeing a movie three times in theaters would imply.
I've seen it twice very good movie great animation I would like to see miles and Gwen get together like they did in the comics but we'll see whenever the next film comes out hopefully that's the case... But I gotta agree with ya ever since a kid really I always wanted to belong somewhere I found a group and started hanging out with them it truly feels like I am amongst people like me and it's one of the best feelings...
I’m guessing Miles and Gwen are going to end up together, but yeah, we’ll see. Glad you found your group, and it’s cool that you feel like they’re like you! It’s also cool that you’ve seen Across The Spider-Verse twice, and I’m glad you liked it!
@@TitleInProgress yeah me too I was kinda worried they put woke/social media stuff in there like trans gays etc but I was pleasantly surprised to see none of that
I saw Across the Spiderverse 5 times in theaters on opening weekend and a total of 8 times so far. Into the Spiderverse has been my favorite movie of all time since December 2018. It has a very special place in my heart. In many ways, I think ATSV is better, yet ITSV is still my favorite. Both are phenomenal films and I can't wait for Beyond the Spiderverse!
I completely agree! There are many ways that Across The Spider-Verse matches and even surpasses Into The Spider-Verse in quality (any scene that features Spider-Punk comes to mind), but I don’t think Across was ever going to top Into The Spider-Verse for me, because ITSV is so special to me for so many reasons! Also, I’m not sure anything can top the Leap of Faith scene from ITSV for me, but we’ll have to see what BTSV can do. I agree that both movies are phenomenal, but ITSV was such a surprise and connected with me in ways I didn’t expect that I don’t know if it’ll ever be topped.
Beautiful video, whether in the technical and emotional aspects that the film provides, you were so smart in the way of telling all the themes. You really deserve a greater exposure in the eyes of all.
Honestly for me my favorite aspect of Across the Spider-verse is father hood between Peter B parker and his daughter Mayday parker spider-girl and of course seeing his connection to Miles Morales Spider-Man was actually really sweet at least in my opinion.
@@TitleInProgress indeed also a bonus as a huge comic fan who knows Mayday parker Spider-girl story even as a baby it makes me so happy to see all three spider-men and girl talking to each other kind of sort of in case of Peter and Miles trying to talk to each other about there situations was really adorable and made me so happy that I am very excited to see what happens next with are favorite spiders trying to save the day. :)
@@TitleInProgress indeed and honestly at this point if marvel comics won't learn from there mistakes and not let the actual source material Peter parker Spider-Man grow up for some stupid reason, then at this point screw them we got the next best thing and that's Peter B parker from across the Spider-verse who's now yes remarried to his wife Mary jane an also a bonus has his daughter Mayday parker the future spider-girl from the comics which is huge win to us fans at least in my opinion. :)
Hell yes! I just love that Peter B Parker is so much happier in this film and, just in general, the film did a great job showing both really wholesome parenting and the struggles that comes with parenting.
Totally agree with you. I'm facing the same prob as Miles in the movie, and this movie really enlightened me to pursue what I want, and it means a lot to me.
@@Vespyr_ this is probably not what you were wanting to hear but for me it was really practice. If you watch some of my older videos, my voice is very monotone and it feels like I’m reading a script, but after trying it more and getting more comfortable reading from a script, it felt more natural. There are a few things I can recommend you do, like speaking clearly and emphasizing certain words or phrases you want to stick out to the viewer, but the most important thing I’ve learned is to write for how you speak. I don’t have as good of lung capacity as others, so my sentences are generally either shorter or contain commas as natural breaks for breathing. Also, I try to avoid using words and phrases that twist my tongue, which is more of a trial and error thing than anything because I don’t always know what words/phrases I can properly pronounce until I record my script, but it’s easy enough to change in the moment. I hope this helps, and if all else fails, watch some RUclips videos on the subject. I didn’t do that for voicing but RUclips videos have helped me learn and improve on a lot of things.
@@Ncholasbloom I totally agree. It definitely feels like the end goal from the start and I’m impressed by how naturally their relationship has been (and likely will continue to be) developed.
I wanted to listen to this low volume so I put on closed captions but it was just the entire video script stuffed into a single caption in the first few seconds. The video essay itself was good but it was just a bit disappointing that I had to use youtube's dogwater auto-generated captions instead :/
Thank you! I’ve started to realize that my personal experiences aren’t as unique as I once thought (like my personal connection to these movies), but I think there’s an added comfort in being able to relate to others.
Amazing video especially for a relaticely low sub count which im sure will grow. These movoes really resignate with me as they are what insipred me to try my hand at animation. It turns out i love it an will most likely be my career in the near future. Since i was 5 i always wanted to get into software engineering so having something change my view on what i want to do really means alot to me as i love animation so much more then software engineering for some reason and i am glad i discovered this through the movies before i locked in my career
I decided to give ITSV a try mid-June. Had a free evening and thought „better than nothing“. And gosh, it was the best movie idea of the year. I was never really into the Spider-Verse. I saw the live action movies, but nothing more. Of course one of the goals of the trilogy may be that Miles and Gwen are getting together like in some comics, but wow, I liked that ITSV didn‘t push it that far already, because it made ATSV so much more real. I saw ATSV two times in cinema (which was completely new for me) and enjoyed it every time. And many times more on YT. 🤐 I will be more detailed on the potential romance between Miles and Gwen. Both are desperately trying to get their grips in their universes, both have their parallels. Also it is visually so stunning. This movie is real, I mean the problems and the acting is completely relatable. Of course there are comic styles and such things, but seeing Gwen struggling with her dad at the beginning and the end, and her tie between the Spider Society and her love (let‘s face it like this) to Miles … it was something you could see in everyones real life. ATSV is one of the movies, which are fun to watch during the action scenes, but these „silent“, emotional scenes and dialouges are the basement of the movie. Voice acting is great (Hailee nailed it here), the movements are completely real (I have to point out Gwen during her last talk with her dad at the end - best scene of the whole movie) and the motifs are quite relatable, even for me who is now 32. I hope that Gwen and Miles will get a redemption (mostly Gwen as everybody is pulling her down in ATSV) and that BTSV will nail it like ITSV and ATSV. 🙂 I will watch it a dozen times
Great write up! I agree with everything you said, and I’m glad you gave Into The Spider-Verse a try! The movie really does have a sense of realism that you normally wouldn’t expect from an animated multiverse superhero movie, but the characters and their problems feel real, despite the fantastical world. And yeah, a lot of that is owed to the voice acting (like you said Hailee Steinfeld nailed it), but the writing and animation (especially the character animation which only feels heightened in a way to give more expression, like with the eyes of the mask) help it go a long way. The conversations all feel natural and in-character, and the story itself reflects Miles and Gwen’s internal struggles. Miles wants to be accepted and find a place that understands him (thus the Spider Society) and Gwen wants the same thing, though from a different perspective (with her initially siding with Miguel). I wrote a bit more but at a point I realized I was just restating what your comment already said, so I’ll leave it at that. Amazing movie, I hope and expect BTSV to conclude the story well, and I’ll probably watch all three of these movies many, many more times.
@@TitleInProgress Regarding the realism this movie does something what even live action movies are lacking: the pacing and facial expressions. Some examples: 1. Gwen when she is talking to her dad the second time. How she paces through the room and moves her arms etc. (And don't get me started talking about the color scheming here 😂) Even in MCU movies I think they would stand still in moments like this. 2. Her slight expression change when she recruits Peter B. First she looks desperate, and then she slightly moves her head so then she looks demanding for Peters help. There are so many other examples, like how she visibly breaks down after Miles told her that she shouldn't have come back at the canon events scene. Or how her voice breaks when she has to reject Miles' approach at the clocktower. You can see that she wants so badly to give in, but then she thinks about all the canon nonsense that Miguel told her. I mean, it is not her Spider-Man, because in her universe Gwen (= Peter) already fell for Spider-Man (=Spider-Gwen). So her canon event already happened, but they switched sides. So in fact she only had to think further. But yeah, we are talking about teenagers here, which is why I don't understand the hate she gets. 😅 Never before I found so many essays or psychological analyses for a movie like ATSV, and this is amazing. This shows, that animation doesn't have to be a restriction for a good movie with so many backstories. Also one thing I never thought about (until someone made it clear) is that she had to use physical power to lean onto Miles shoulder as they are hanging upside down. So she had to 'get up' to lean on his shoulder. Or how touchy she is throughout the movie (her spontaneous hug at the beginning, how she holds his shoulders while talking to Miles' parents, how she pulls him back jealousy when he speaks to Margo. 😅 So small details, but I wouldn't expect some of these even in live action movies. God, I just wanted to write a small comment, but then this happened...I 'hate' it 😂 Unfortunately most of my friends are not really into the Spider-Verse, so I cannot talk to them without getting them bored, because I could talk hours about these aspects of the movie. But even a friend who is not into the topic had a good time watching it (she likes Hobie the most 😂), which is a quite good reception too 😃 As we will definitely get a Spider-Gwen spin-off, I think she will survive BTSV. Because this spin-off will show the female Spiders, so I don't believe it will set in between ITSV and ATSV. And I heard rumors about a additional TV series. But yeah, they would be stupid not to do more out of these characters. Spider-Gwen is one of the most famous alternate Spiders, so they must do more with her. (Sorry for the long comment 😅)
@@BKTano16 no worries about the long comment thing, it read quicker than I thought it would (also I like talking about Spider-Verse). I also didn’t realize the shoulder lean thing, but that’s cool! I really appreciate all of the little details with the characters (like Gwen pacing and moving her arms), and I agree that that’s something a live-action movie would probably ignore. I’m excited at the possibility of spin-offs, and I’m hopeful that 1) they happen and 2) they’re good. I’m especially interested in a Spider-Gwen spin-off (not sure if that’s supposed to be a movie or a show) and I think a story about Gwen (for lack of a better term) finding herself after the events of BTSV has a lot of potential.
@@TitleInProgress I think the Spider-Womans spin-off with Gwen in the lead will be a single movie. 🙂 I also hope that she will have her debut in the upcoming Spider-Man 2 game. Not yet as Spider-Gwen, but as Gwen Stacy, building up to Spider-Man 3 with her as Spider, too. They would be dumb not to use her fame from the Spider-Verse and as we saw in ATSV and with Miles' ITSV suit in Spider-Man Miles Morales, they are aware of the connection between both worlds. Until then I have to take her character as Fortnite skin (which is apparently very good) 😂 Didn't thought a month ago I would say this now, but Gwen is safe one of my top 3 female characters (besides Ahsoka from Star Wars)
@@BKTano16 not sure what I think about a Spider-Womans spin-off as opposed to a solo Gwen movie, but if the Spider-Verse team is behind it, it’ll probably be great! I don’t play the Spider-Man PS4/5 games, but I agree that they should probably introduce her as regular Gwen Stacy before giving her spider powers (which I also hope the MCU does with Miles if they ever introduce him, though I would be a little skeptical of that because they would be following up Spider-Verse’s Miles, but I’m sure it could be done). I don’t have a favorite female characters list, but if I did Gwen (especially Spider-Verse Gwen) would definitely be near the top (right now probably my #1 but I’d have to think about it more).
@@SomeGuy735 Miles and Miguel are both great but for me there really is no competing with Hobie, the absolute legend who also doesn’t believe in labels
@@SomeGuy735 that’s what I was trying to say but I guess I didn’t word it the best, but yeah people can like whichever Spider-Man they want but Hobie is the best IMO (and IYO)
@@TitleInProgress Okay, went back to the site I watched it on and just realized he did indeed say "halfway through your big speech", so... yeah, guess that's on me. My bad. The reason I thought he had already quit was because he said "because I quit", not "because I'm quitting" or something similar.
@@BurstFlare no worries. The “because I quit” line threw me off too, and I think it was only my third watch that I actually realized that he meant he just then quit, so I get it.
Same! I’m guessing they will because that feels like the natural conclusion of their dynamic, but I still really want that to happen and that’s (hopefully) going to be so satisfying to see that happen!
I had to cut this vid off as soon as I heard you complain about the ending. I'm so sick and tired of people desperately trying to find some flaw with this brilliant movie. ATSV is a visually stunning and emotionally jarring masterpiece. To try to label it flawed in any way is asinine
Genuine question, when did I complain about the ending? I actually think the ending was great, and any problems with it being a cliffhanger ending were overruled by the incredible two-parter story it looks to tell, but I could be misremembering the video or it had a line in there that didn’t come across as I’d intended.
I agree that the first is better, but I still think this one is quite good. That’s just my opinion though, sorry you didn’t like it (or at least not to the extent of a lot of people).
@@TitleInProgress I liked it , it’s just gets so much praise for a half story and continuation of the first one which feels more like a miles Morales Spider-Man story
What element of Across The Spider-Verse resonated with you the most?
The spider-heroes
The theme of trying too save everyone
The theme of not feeling like you belong
The complexity of Miles’ relationship with Gwen. It’s a long-distance friendship that obviously wants to be more, and they both know it, but neither knows how to express that want, and there are myriad things in the way of them realizing that next step.
She enjoys his company and is more comfortable with him than anyone else in her life, and he’s just as smitten but with more optimism about their chances since he doesn’t know Gwen Stacy’s tragic history with Spider-Man. To borrow from Shakespeare, Gwen sees their relationship as Romeo and Juliet, whereas Miles sees them more as Beatrice and Benedick from “Much Ado About Nothing.” They work almost perfectly in concert with each other as they swing through the city and later in Mumbattan when shit goes sideways, after which she tells him she’s always thought he was amazing, and it’s the understated delivery by Hailee Steinfeld that really sells Gwen’s feelings for Miles more than anything else in movie. If the self-loathing opening narration, the bear hug she gives him upon reuniting, and all the little physical touches she makes weren’t enough, that line should leave no doubt.
And even after the betrayal mentioned in the opening narration, when he has every reason to cut her off, I still believe Miles loves her enough to forgive her, because I’m a hopeless romantic like that.
I watched the movie a second time with a friend of mine a couple weeks ago. I already knew she was gonna move, so this was our last full in person experience with each other. For that reason, the Miles and Gwen scene where they are just happy to see each other again after a year is really heartwarming, and it gives me hope for the future of the friendship. (That and bro Miles and Gwen are so cute together like come on now😭)
i never thought about the fact that Gwen and Miles friendship could mirror long distance friendship. a year ago, my best friend at the time left for the air force after we both graduated from high school. i never pictured the main duo in this movie as a reflection of him and me, and now that i do i wanna watch it again (for the third time)
I can’t speak to that level but yeah it’s interesting and it gives the viewer more to connect with with the movie. Glad it could connect with you on that level and glad you liked the movie!
That's a interesting connection
@@TitleInProgressgoing back to this video right after coming home from my third viewing
this movie gets better and better
I really appreciated that "I'm not like Miles, I've never made an apology video joke"
And I really appreciated this kind comment, so thank you!
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The theme that goes through both movies that resonates with me the most is a strained relationship with your father. My dad reminds me of Jeff in a lot of ways, and the way we see him stuggle to connect with Miles at the beginning of the first movie is almost the exact relationship my dad and I have. This is reinforced in the second movie by Miles only being able to really talk to his dad with the mask on as it feels like I almost have to put one on, reinforced even more through Gwen's relationship with her dad. There's honestly a lot of relatable aspects and it's amazing to see how layered it gets the deeper you look.
Absolutely! It’s cool to hear your perspective because I hadn’t thought all that much about that side of these movies (the mask thing in particular is a really cool parallel I hadn’t noticed until your comment) and it’s cool that that aspect resonated with you.
@@TitleInProgress Yeah it hits even closer to home cause Miles is black and I am too, so when I say his dad acts exactly like my dad, I mean that in every sense 😂. My dad is a pastor and it can sometimes be hard to talk to him about normal stuff, unless I "put the mask on" and use his type of talk to help him understand what I'm going through. The mask while Miles talks to his dad helps him to be level with his dad since they're both crime fighters and his dad listens to him then. We can see how this is the symbolism when Gwen gives her speech to her dad about how the mask is her badge and she wants to wear it the way he does, which opens the door to them reconciling from their fall out. It really is a deep symbolism that I'm glad they put words and visuals to, because it's something you never realize other people go through until it's published like that.
@@UltimateTS64 and when Miles is talking to his dad as Spider-Man his dad actually listens to him because he repeats Miles saying he needs to “spread his wings” near the end of the movie. I thought it was cool that Miles could talk to his dad in that way but this take on the theme is more interesting and makes the movie that much more impressive! Also it’s good that you can communicate with your dad, even if you have to metaphorically put the mask on.
i think what's even better is that being around other spider people was something miles wanted in the first movie but now that's he's there, he doesn't feel like he fits in with them. these are people who are supposed to understand him in a way that literally no one else can, but they antagonize him and make him feel unwelcome instead
That’s a good point!
You've seen Across the Spider-Verse THREE times in theaters?! I'm so jealous. I couldn't do that.
it’s weird though because it’s only the third movie I’ve seen in theaters this year, but the movie is really great, as seeing a movie three times in theaters would imply.
i saw Avatar 2 five times 😭 but with different people each time, that’s why.
i would watch this one plenty of times on my own if i could
@@i_dont_talk_that_much Fr, when it comes out on streaming services, I'm watching this like 18 times in a row.
@@bjornvpI watched into the spider-verse 20 times already. I'm not lying
@@weblink8478 wow that’s a lot but also completely understandable
I've seen it twice very good movie great animation I would like to see miles and Gwen get together like they did in the comics but we'll see whenever the next film comes out hopefully that's the case... But I gotta agree with ya ever since a kid really I always wanted to belong somewhere I found a group and started hanging out with them it truly feels like I am amongst people like me and it's one of the best feelings...
I’m guessing Miles and Gwen are going to end up together, but yeah, we’ll see. Glad you found your group, and it’s cool that you feel like they’re like you! It’s also cool that you’ve seen Across The Spider-Verse twice, and I’m glad you liked it!
@@TitleInProgress yeah me too I was kinda worried they put woke/social media stuff in there like trans gays etc but I was pleasantly surprised to see none of that
I saw Across the Spiderverse 5 times in theaters on opening weekend and a total of 8 times so far. Into the Spiderverse has been my favorite movie of all time since December 2018. It has a very special place in my heart. In many ways, I think ATSV is better, yet ITSV is still my favorite. Both are phenomenal films and I can't wait for Beyond the Spiderverse!
I completely agree! There are many ways that Across The Spider-Verse matches and even surpasses Into The Spider-Verse in quality (any scene that features Spider-Punk comes to mind), but I don’t think Across was ever going to top Into The Spider-Verse for me, because ITSV is so special to me for so many reasons! Also, I’m not sure anything can top the Leap of Faith scene from ITSV for me, but we’ll have to see what BTSV can do. I agree that both movies are phenomenal, but ITSV was such a surprise and connected with me in ways I didn’t expect that I don’t know if it’ll ever be topped.
Love how Hobie gets an honorable mention even if the video isn't about him, he truly is the greatest character in atsv (if you ask me)
He’s so great I had to mention him somehow
@@TitleInProgress Agreed! Hobie was the biggest highligt of the movie for me!
Daniel Kaluuya absolutely smashed that role.
Beautiful video, whether in the technical and emotional aspects that the film provides, you were so smart in the way of telling all the themes. You really deserve a greater exposure in the eyes of all.
Thanks! That means a lot!
i related a lot with your points and really enjoyed your story telling skills. great video :)
Thanks for the kind words and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
VERY WELL MADE I LOVE UR VOICE FR FR
Thanks! My voice was one of the things I was most concerned about when making videos so that’s good to hear!
great video. i'm glad to share the love of these films with so many others :) THEIR THEMES
Thanks! I’m also glad people love these movies, and I’m glad the theme of belonging hit for you.
Honestly for me my favorite aspect of Across the Spider-verse is father hood between Peter B parker and his daughter Mayday parker spider-girl and of course seeing his connection to Miles Morales Spider-Man was actually really sweet at least in my opinion.
Yeah that was great and that scene with just Peter and Miles was one of my favorites in the movie
@@TitleInProgress indeed also a bonus as a huge comic fan who knows Mayday parker Spider-girl story even as a baby it makes me so happy to see all three spider-men and girl talking to each other kind of sort of in case of Peter and Miles trying to talk to each other about there situations was really adorable and made me so happy that I am very excited to see what happens next with are favorite spiders trying to save the day. :)
@@TevyaSmolka absolutely! And it’s cool to have a Peter Parker who can have a family and doesn’t have to be perpetually stuck in his 20s
@@TitleInProgress indeed and honestly at this point if marvel comics won't learn from there mistakes and not let the actual source material Peter parker Spider-Man grow up for some stupid reason, then at this point screw them we got the next best thing and that's Peter B parker from across the Spider-verse who's now yes remarried to his wife Mary jane an also a bonus has his daughter Mayday parker the future spider-girl from the comics which is huge win to us fans at least in my opinion. :)
Hell yes! I just love that Peter B Parker is so much happier in this film and, just in general, the film did a great job showing both really wholesome parenting and the struggles that comes with parenting.
I’ve seen this movie eight times now in the theater at the Alamo Drafthouse, and one of those times at a golden ticket theater
Wow that’s really cool!
Totally agree with you. I'm facing the same prob as Miles in the movie, and this movie really enlightened me to pursue what I want, and it means a lot to me.
I’m glad it could help you, and I hope you overcome your problem
YOU ARE SO UNDERRATED
Thank you!
It’s 2024 it’s my favourite marvel movie this did fantastic visuals and story and it stills holds on to it
for a lower sub count channel you've got some good editing and voicing. Hope you keep growing!
Thank you! Those are definitely the areas I’ve worked on improving the most (especially voicing), so thanks for the compliments!
@@TitleInProgress Do you recommend a source for voice training? You have a great sound.
@@Vespyr_ this is probably not what you were wanting to hear but for me it was really practice. If you watch some of my older videos, my voice is very monotone and it feels like I’m reading a script, but after trying it more and getting more comfortable reading from a script, it felt more natural. There are a few things I can recommend you do, like speaking clearly and emphasizing certain words or phrases you want to stick out to the viewer, but the most important thing I’ve learned is to write for how you speak. I don’t have as good of lung capacity as others, so my sentences are generally either shorter or contain commas as natural breaks for breathing. Also, I try to avoid using words and phrases that twist my tongue, which is more of a trial and error thing than anything because I don’t always know what words/phrases I can properly pronounce until I record my script, but it’s easy enough to change in the moment. I hope this helps, and if all else fails, watch some RUclips videos on the subject. I didn’t do that for voicing but RUclips videos have helped me learn and improve on a lot of things.
Thank your for your video, Across the Spiderverse is now my favorite Super Hero Movie
Thanks for commenting, Across The Spider-Verse is one of my favorites (probably only second to the first movie)
SONY Miles Morales is my new favorite superhero
gwen was so good in this movie
Absolutely! She was already interesting in the first movie but in Across she’s even more so
@@TitleInProgress i bet shes gonna fight miguel
@@TitleInProgress rewatching the first film and the moments they have i feel the love story was planned
@@Ncholasbloom I totally agree. It definitely feels like the end goal from the start and I’m impressed by how naturally their relationship has been (and likely will continue to be) developed.
This was a great video! I hope your channel can get some more recognition soon!
Thank you! I hope so too, and this video’s already doing way better than most of my others so I’m at least getting a little bit more recognition.
I wanted to listen to this low volume so I put on closed captions but it was just the entire video script stuffed into a single caption in the first few seconds. The video essay itself was good but it was just a bit disappointing that I had to use youtube's dogwater auto-generated captions instead :/
Oh shoot sorry I thought I fixed that! It worked last time I checked RUclips Studio so thanks for letting me know that I need to fix it.
Okay it looks like I fixed it so I hope it works now
I loved this video :D Genuinely really well made and structured! also i find it really funny how many thing we have in common lmao
Thank you! I’ve started to realize that my personal experiences aren’t as unique as I once thought (like my personal connection to these movies), but I think there’s an added comfort in being able to relate to others.
Amazing video especially for a relaticely low sub count which im sure will grow. These movoes really resignate with me as they are what insipred me to try my hand at animation. It turns out i love it an will most likely be my career in the near future. Since i was 5 i always wanted to get into software engineering so having something change my view on what i want to do really means alot to me as i love animation so much more then software engineering for some reason and i am glad i discovered this through the movies before i locked in my career
That’s good to hear! Hope you enjoy animation!
@@TitleInProgress i really do!
I decided to give ITSV a try mid-June. Had a free evening and thought „better than nothing“. And gosh, it was the best movie idea of the year. I was never really into the Spider-Verse. I saw the live action movies, but nothing more.
Of course one of the goals of the trilogy may be that Miles and Gwen are getting together like in some comics, but wow, I liked that ITSV didn‘t push it that far already, because it made ATSV so much more real. I saw ATSV two times in cinema (which was completely new for me) and enjoyed it every time. And many times more on YT. 🤐
I will be more detailed on the potential romance between Miles and Gwen. Both are desperately trying to get their grips in their universes, both have their parallels. Also it is visually so stunning. This movie is real, I mean the problems and the acting is completely relatable. Of course there are comic styles and such things, but seeing Gwen struggling with her dad at the beginning and the end, and her tie between the Spider Society and her love (let‘s face it like this) to Miles … it was something you could see in everyones real life.
ATSV is one of the movies, which are fun to watch during the action scenes, but these „silent“, emotional scenes and dialouges are the basement of the movie. Voice acting is great (Hailee nailed it here), the movements are completely real (I have to point out Gwen during her last talk with her dad at the end - best scene of the whole movie) and the motifs are quite relatable, even for me who is now 32.
I hope that Gwen and Miles will get a redemption (mostly Gwen as everybody is pulling her down in ATSV) and that BTSV will nail it like ITSV and ATSV. 🙂
I will watch it a dozen times
Great write up! I agree with everything you said, and I’m glad you gave Into The Spider-Verse a try! The movie really does have a sense of realism that you normally wouldn’t expect from an animated multiverse superhero movie, but the characters and their problems feel real, despite the fantastical world. And yeah, a lot of that is owed to the voice acting (like you said Hailee Steinfeld nailed it), but the writing and animation (especially the character animation which only feels heightened in a way to give more expression, like with the eyes of the mask) help it go a long way. The conversations all feel natural and in-character, and the story itself reflects Miles and Gwen’s internal struggles. Miles wants to be accepted and find a place that understands him (thus the Spider Society) and Gwen wants the same thing, though from a different perspective (with her initially siding with Miguel). I wrote a bit more but at a point I realized I was just restating what your comment already said, so I’ll leave it at that. Amazing movie, I hope and expect BTSV to conclude the story well, and I’ll probably watch all three of these movies many, many more times.
@@TitleInProgress Regarding the realism this movie does something what even live action movies are lacking: the pacing and facial expressions.
Some examples:
1. Gwen when she is talking to her dad the second time. How she paces through the room and moves her arms etc. (And don't get me started talking about the color scheming here 😂)
Even in MCU movies I think they would stand still in moments like this.
2. Her slight expression change when she recruits Peter B. First she looks desperate, and then she slightly moves her head so then she looks demanding for Peters help.
There are so many other examples, like how she visibly breaks down after Miles told her that she shouldn't have come back at the canon events scene. Or how her voice breaks when she has to reject Miles' approach at the clocktower. You can see that she wants so badly to give in, but then she thinks about all the canon nonsense that Miguel told her.
I mean, it is not her Spider-Man, because in her universe Gwen (= Peter) already fell for Spider-Man (=Spider-Gwen). So her canon event already happened, but they switched sides. So in fact she only had to think further. But yeah, we are talking about teenagers here, which is why I don't understand the hate she gets. 😅
Never before I found so many essays or psychological analyses for a movie like ATSV, and this is amazing.
This shows, that animation doesn't have to be a restriction for a good movie with so many backstories.
Also one thing I never thought about (until someone made it clear) is that she had to use physical power to lean onto Miles shoulder as they are hanging upside down. So she had to 'get up' to lean on his shoulder.
Or how touchy she is throughout the movie (her spontaneous hug at the beginning, how she holds his shoulders while talking to Miles' parents, how she pulls him back jealousy when he speaks to Margo. 😅
So small details, but I wouldn't expect some of these even in live action movies.
God, I just wanted to write a small comment, but then this happened...I 'hate' it 😂 Unfortunately most of my friends are not really into the Spider-Verse, so I cannot talk to them without getting them bored, because I could talk hours about these aspects of the movie. But even a friend who is not into the topic had a good time watching it (she likes Hobie the most 😂), which is a quite good reception too 😃
As we will definitely get a Spider-Gwen spin-off, I think she will survive BTSV. Because this spin-off will show the female Spiders, so I don't believe it will set in between ITSV and ATSV. And I heard rumors about a additional TV series. But yeah, they would be stupid not to do more out of these characters. Spider-Gwen is one of the most famous alternate Spiders, so they must do more with her.
(Sorry for the long comment 😅)
@@BKTano16 no worries about the long comment thing, it read quicker than I thought it would (also I like talking about Spider-Verse). I also didn’t realize the shoulder lean thing, but that’s cool! I really appreciate all of the little details with the characters (like Gwen pacing and moving her arms), and I agree that that’s something a live-action movie would probably ignore. I’m excited at the possibility of spin-offs, and I’m hopeful that 1) they happen and 2) they’re good. I’m especially interested in a Spider-Gwen spin-off (not sure if that’s supposed to be a movie or a show) and I think a story about Gwen (for lack of a better term) finding herself after the events of BTSV has a lot of potential.
@@TitleInProgress I think the Spider-Womans spin-off with Gwen in the lead will be a single movie. 🙂
I also hope that she will have her debut in the upcoming Spider-Man 2 game. Not yet as Spider-Gwen, but as Gwen Stacy, building up to Spider-Man 3 with her as Spider, too.
They would be dumb not to use her fame from the Spider-Verse and as we saw in ATSV and with Miles' ITSV suit in Spider-Man Miles Morales, they are aware of the connection between both worlds. Until then I have to take her character as Fortnite skin (which is apparently very good) 😂
Didn't thought a month ago I would say this now, but Gwen is safe one of my top 3 female characters (besides Ahsoka from Star Wars)
@@BKTano16 not sure what I think about a Spider-Womans spin-off as opposed to a solo Gwen movie, but if the Spider-Verse team is behind it, it’ll probably be great! I don’t play the Spider-Man PS4/5 games, but I agree that they should probably introduce her as regular Gwen Stacy before giving her spider powers (which I also hope the MCU does with Miles if they ever introduce him, though I would be a little skeptical of that because they would be following up Spider-Verse’s Miles, but I’m sure it could be done). I don’t have a favorite female characters list, but if I did Gwen (especially Spider-Verse Gwen) would definitely be near the top (right now probably my #1 but I’d have to think about it more).
This is an excellent video
Thanks! I’m glad you liked it!
Don't feel bad, I saw it three times at the theater within the span of a month as well. Watched it a 4th time through a bootleg link though lol
Nice (except for the bootleg thing because I have to imagine that would take away from the visual quality, which would not be good)!
Not gonna lie I don't hear the resemblance between your voice and Miles' but you certainly have his passion
It would be cool if my voice sounded similar, but thanks for saying I have his passion
Well said
Thanks
I got you beat... I've seen the movie 4 times...haha!!!
Oh nice!
good video i enjoyed it
Thank you
im js wondering if and IAB Trilogy collectors edition is coming out after BTSV with comic books and stuff
Idk but that would be cool
@@TitleInProgress yeah id buy it
It’s awesome to see the video getting views
Thanks! I wasn’t expecting this to take off like it has but I’m not complaining!
Have a like for the algorithm. Hope your Daredevil video gets more than 60 views.
Thanks! I’m kind of surprised that my Daredevil video only got 60 views because it’s one of my better ones.
W video 💯💯💯
Wow a W and 300%?! That’s high praise!
Edit: oh also thanks for the W and the 3 💯s and glad you liked the video!
I've seen it 5 time
Oh wow
hobie brown is just the best spiderman (in MY opinion)
I’m not sure there is another opinion, Hobie is the absolute best in every way
True, but some people like other spidermen more like Miles or Miguel
@@SomeGuy735 Miles and Miguel are both great but for me there really is no competing with Hobie, the absolute legend who also doesn’t believe in labels
I agree im just saying SOME people like other spiermen more
@@SomeGuy735 that’s what I was trying to say but I guess I didn’t word it the best, but yeah people can like whichever Spider-Man they want but Hobie is the best IMO (and IYO)
6:23~6:26 He quit his job before they hashed it out, though.
I thought he said he quit “halfway through [Gwen’s] big speech” but I could have misunderstood the context of that.
@@TitleInProgress Okay, went back to the site I watched it on and just realized he did indeed say "halfway through your big speech", so... yeah, guess that's on me. My bad.
The reason I thought he had already quit was because he said "because I quit", not "because I'm quitting" or something similar.
@@BurstFlare no worries. The “because I quit” line threw me off too, and I think it was only my third watch that I actually realized that he meant he just then quit, so I get it.
i love spiderman but im in a class with dc so theyre talking about flash
I'm sorry to hear that, I hope your class can one day understand and relate to your love of Spider-Man.
@@TitleInProgress I have the internet tho
@@ShowWatchers that’s good at least
@@TitleInProgress half half some people hate it some poeplle love it
I hope so bad the Gwen and Miles get together in the next movie, they’ve been through so much together and deserve each other.
Same! I’m guessing they will because that feels like the natural conclusion of their dynamic, but I still really want that to happen and that’s (hopefully) going to be so satisfying to see that happen!
I had to cut this vid off as soon as I heard you complain about the ending. I'm so sick and tired of people desperately trying to find some flaw with this brilliant movie. ATSV is a visually stunning and emotionally jarring masterpiece. To try to label it flawed in any way is asinine
Genuine question, when did I complain about the ending? I actually think the ending was great, and any problems with it being a cliffhanger ending were overruled by the incredible two-parter story it looks to tell, but I could be misremembering the video or it had a line in there that didn’t come across as I’d intended.
holup you never made an apology video and thats the only thing your pointing out in your difference to miles? you endorced baby powder?
Haha yeah I just hoped people would forget about the whole baby powder incident
@@TitleInProgress might need an apology video
This movie is overrated as hell , the first one is way better
I agree that the first is better, but I still think this one is quite good. That’s just my opinion though, sorry you didn’t like it (or at least not to the extent of a lot of people).
@@TitleInProgress I liked it , it’s just gets so much praise for a half story and continuation of the first one which feels more like a miles Morales Spider-Man story
@@curtiszyr fair enough
Both flicks are great but the sequel was waaaaaaayyyyyy better