EVERY RULE And Their PUNISHMENTS For Breaking Them | Slap Battles

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  • @basicrocky
    @basicrocky  7 месяцев назад +12

    Kill farming is **allowed** in **private servers** or the **killstreak only** gamemode, it's not punishable there.
    I forgot to mention this in the video

    • @AnInternetMod
      @AnInternetMod 7 месяцев назад

      Good video.
      I did find some information that was from a while back around 2022. Some sources stated that you could get banned for playing fangames of Slap Battles. Do you know if this is still happening?

    • @Nikabully
      @Nikabully 6 месяцев назад

      i have an alt bcz i am perm banned and the alt is still not banned for ban evading?!?!?!?!

    • @dwaf_pope
      @dwaf_pope 6 месяцев назад

      how do i apeal for being falsly banned (i have proof)

    • @helloeveryone0
      @helloeveryone0 5 месяцев назад

      @@dwaf_popedid you get unbanned as of saying this
      if no what was ur ban

    • @TheTribalWanker
      @TheTribalWanker 4 месяца назад

      @@dwaf_pope go on their discord server, don’t screw up the appeal. Just don’t be a suck and go “I’m so sorry I won’t do this again”

  • @StickmanTT
    @StickmanTT 7 месяцев назад +23

    Oh yeah rocky one more thing about the kill farming. You can't get punished for kill farming in killstreak only (last time I checked) I think it says it in the discord server report section.

    • @redmistsquidword5870
      @redmistsquidword5870 7 месяцев назад +4

      and this is the reason why almost no one plays ks mode lmfao

    • @GokuDrip100
      @GokuDrip100 7 месяцев назад

      @@redmistsquidword5870 FR but you can still farm kills in public if there is error user
      (cuz error users can accidently press E if they are mobile so admins wont ban you for that)

  • @Blackimpostor334
    @Blackimpostor334 7 месяцев назад +7

    10cell broke his own 3rd rule with one of the new death sounds, when i spawned in a random and someone died i could hear it from the lobby

  • @Jim_iscool
    @Jim_iscool 6 месяцев назад +2

    NEW IMPORTANT ADDED RULE!
    saying killer fish, will tp you to a secret room to one time buy the killerfish glove
    IF ANY SIRCUMSTANCED ABUSED IN "slao tournament" YOU WILL GET BANNED!
    killerfish tp is still active in slap tournament, saying so MIGHT GET YOU BANNED!

  • @SantiagoGabrielCastilloPablo
    @SantiagoGabrielCastilloPablo 7 месяцев назад +4

    Some things that i hate for being banned is when i need to farm slaps quick with orbit and they ban me for sussy activity

  • @Domino64
    @Domino64 7 месяцев назад +7

    Ty but the thing I don’t like about slap royal is that in some servers already in the bus or when we’re gliding in the kite people already start vote kicking
    And in one server they vote kicked me for no reason like :/ ?

    • @xxGreenRoblox
      @xxGreenRoblox 7 месяцев назад

      do you mean every server?

    • @nazarlion9165
      @nazarlion9165 8 дней назад

      Same bro people kick for no reason

  • @decmant
    @decmant 7 месяцев назад +2

    "This will happen when you play very loud audio with death sounds", the in game death sounds are extremely loud, but the creator isnt banned

  • @reaksmeypen4909
    @reaksmeypen4909 7 месяцев назад +3

    Using baller glove and you keep slapping baller it’s slap farming

  • @Legma2day
    @Legma2day 7 месяцев назад +1

    Also one thing you forgot: Kill farming is allowed in Killstreak Only game mode.

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  7 месяцев назад

      yup it is
      i forgot about that

  • @spkynoobYT
    @spkynoobYT 7 месяцев назад +1

    Bypassing chat is NO LONGER APPEALABLE and is a permanent ban. (I found out the hard way) Its also stated on the slap battles discord server

  • @LegoPerson8891
    @LegoPerson8891 7 месяцев назад +2

    For example, leashing someone and continously slapping them
    Ah yes, getting banned for using a gloves MECHANIC

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  7 месяцев назад +3

      if you continuously do it, then you'll get banned
      if you only do it, say 3 or 4 times, it's okay since you're just using the glove
      but it's not okay if you camp on an island and constantly slap farm them

    • @LegoPerson8891
      @LegoPerson8891 7 месяцев назад

      @@basicrocky yeah ik, it just seems crazy that while making leash they didnt make it so the leash user couldnt slap leashed players and just make it baneable. I mean leash was made a while ago but it coulve been done in the last 3 months or so. The sb team showing their lazy side once more

  • @ShadowMysticCatCool
    @ShadowMysticCatCool 6 месяцев назад +1

    Rocky, if I upload a video about a funny anti cheat, will I get banned?

  • @InternetDudeWholovesSoda
    @InternetDudeWholovesSoda 7 месяцев назад +1

    If anybody was going to make this video, I thought it would’ve been Rudy but thanks for informing me

  • @DummyTestPlayz
    @DummyTestPlayz 7 месяцев назад +1

    Leaking by Exploiters (Most common one): nah 😑🤚
    Leaking by Developer/Owner: oh yes 😏👆

  • @awesomedino51
    @awesomedino51 7 месяцев назад +2

    1:20 me when i have 250 killstreak and exploiter joins but i dont wanna get banned: 😔

  • @vagmargaryan4705
    @vagmargaryan4705 7 месяцев назад

    this video will definitely help players who don’t know the rules of the game.

  • @robloxalejo10cortesflorez
    @robloxalejo10cortesflorez Месяц назад +1

    Dude im confused, there was an exploiter thats dropping items and i took some of them, does that count like teaming with exploiter? As he was my friend but not my alt account, and they perm banned me (it was the first offense)

  • @edgelord83647
    @edgelord83647 7 месяцев назад +1

    One time a exploiter cornered my friend and me in bob cave, he gave me like 50 items and I spammed pick up on them and he killed everyone else and me and him went at each other, I STILL DIED BECAUSE OF MY SKILL ISSUE EVEN THO I HAD SO MANY ITEMS is that teaming?

  • @Gutigus917
    @Gutigus917 7 месяцев назад +3

    Can i get unbanned if someone used mine account to use exploits? I think i can't but i'm asking anyways

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  7 месяцев назад +1

      you can't get unbanned for that sadly

    • @StickmanTT
      @StickmanTT 7 месяцев назад

      yeah, on the discord they said that you're responsible for your own account

    • @Gutigus917
      @Gutigus917 7 месяцев назад

      ok, thanks

  • @Basic_Elf
    @Basic_Elf 7 месяцев назад +2

    what about the sound IS THAT THE GRIM REAPER?

    • @defintlynoob4263
      @defintlynoob4263 6 месяцев назад

      its not loud tho. and phase 4 is kinda sick ngl

  • @jImMoSlapper
    @jImMoSlapper 5 месяцев назад +3

    I got one question? Today an exploiter came to me and all of a sudden he told me to friend him (this was before i found out he was an exploiter) then he was gonna kill another exploiter and he kept me alive, i didnt know what to do, since i didn't want to lose my kills (i should've left the server tbh) and after he was done he gave me kills (also he was flying so i couldn't really attack him) and i reported him and the the other exploiter, i was so confused, does this count as teaming with an exploiter?

  • @CHEESEGOATS_OFFICAL
    @CHEESEGOATS_OFFICAL 7 месяцев назад +2

    Wait can you get banned by trying to get kinetic because someone has to slap farm you

    • @mokey69
      @mokey69 7 месяцев назад

      Just use moai to get kinetic, it counts as being ragdolled

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  7 месяцев назад +1

      yes, so use moai

  • @StickmanTT
    @StickmanTT 7 месяцев назад +1

    Nice. This will help a lot of people

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  7 месяцев назад +1

      i hope so!

    • @giraffelove12
      @giraffelove12 7 месяцев назад

      Sure didnt help me. I wish i saw this video before leaking. WHAT WAS I THINKING
      IM SO STUPID

  • @abdalrahman-ll2ry
    @abdalrahman-ll2ry 6 месяцев назад

    I explored a huge tournament bug before the tournament resets u abd I won't tell it to avoid any situation, but it was more op than plague n tournamen, then I got a 14 days ban but thanks bod I somehow didn't get slap resetted then I had never bug abused again.

  • @Nilsennils
    @Nilsennils 6 месяцев назад

    I wish they change the rules slightly and no I’m not saying I didn’t do anything wrong but the punishment for me helping someone get 3 kills on ks after feeling bad for killing him made me lose all my slaps which is ridiculous in my opinion as none of us gained anything it was a public server with 4 ppl so I don’t understand why they just decide to take away the things you got legitimately instead of the illegitimate things plus a warning.

  • @mahmoudaljondi-xe7ef
    @mahmoudaljondi-xe7ef Месяц назад

    Using loud audio gets you like a 7 day ban or 14 day ban

  • @thexwhats2989
    @thexwhats2989 7 месяцев назад

    I can't go a day without seeing anyone go a day without being toxic
    I'm happy they got rid of the toxic death messages I think that would've made it worse because getting insulted when you die would make you want to take your anger out on other people by you being toxic also the toxic death messages came out some time before slap royal came out
    I mean after

  • @rishikeshrajeev5525
    @rishikeshrajeev5525 7 месяцев назад +1

    Rocky is bald in real life

  • @randomenjoyer202
    @randomenjoyer202 7 месяцев назад +1

    This video is very helpful! Also can I appeal for exploiting if I was perma banned by anticheat? (My little bro thought it would be funny if he exploited 💀)

    • @dumptrash7579
      @dumptrash7579 7 месяцев назад

      This video is a bit wrong u cannot apeal if u exploiting btw

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  6 месяцев назад

      anticheat bans are unappealable sadly unless you have proof you weren't exploiting

    • @randomenjoyer202
      @randomenjoyer202 6 месяцев назад

      @@basicrocky oh...

  • @Somerandomguy_115
    @Somerandomguy_115 6 месяцев назад

    I wouldn't care if ma slaps got reset, I just wanna play again ngl

  • @Sergey78R.U.S
    @Sergey78R.U.S 7 месяцев назад +3

    How they can know if you using alt? Maybe it's another player

    • @Icy_tea_on_top
      @Icy_tea_on_top 7 месяцев назад

      They have access to your slap battles progress

    • @Icy_tea_on_top
      @Icy_tea_on_top 7 месяцев назад

      And they fan see when/where is the acc when it got banned and how long it did

    • @omccc
      @omccc 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@Icy_tea_on_topthat makes no sense of course they can‘t know if it‘s you. Only if they have your IP address and if they do you can just go to the Police

  • @gasterstickmin
    @gasterstickmin 6 месяцев назад

    My friend got perm banned because a Ghost user played NSFW audio near him, he was afk so he doesn't have proof to appeal💀i couldn't know who that was cuz there was like 4 ghosts in the server

  • @MrYellow-md6sr
    @MrYellow-md6sr 7 месяцев назад

    3:40 this is where i got ban before 14 days ban got caught up in arguments saying: fatherless to a toxic kid.

  • @dimastohr7864
    @dimastohr7864 6 месяцев назад +2

    How did i got Perm banned for using bypassed radio, so for everyones safety don't buy the radio gamepass (also i got black listed for already trying to get unbanned, it would be nice if you guys give me any other tips to get unbanned, or atleast a temp ban)

    • @dimastohr7864
      @dimastohr7864 6 месяцев назад

      I want my career back, but it would be nice if you guys help me finding a way

  • @XzCYPERzX
    @XzCYPERzX 7 месяцев назад

    5:32 I can understand other rules since they're reasonable, but wth is this? Devs can't face what terrible things they've done?

  • @omccc
    @omccc 7 месяцев назад +1

    The only rules that should exist is ( no teaming, no exploiting and no tab glitching) Because it‘s stupid to get banned if you play on an alt 😂 and how would anyone find out that just makes no sense. In my Opinion too much Rules for a game. I mean it‘s only a Game you don‘t have to be that strict. It‘s not a crime 😂

  • @wasimnola5159
    @wasimnola5159 7 месяцев назад

    Rocky ik u saying that using glitch/bug gets a ban but... I can't get fish BC THERE'S SO MANY PPL USING TRACK AND TARGETS ME... I used a glitch a time it's the glitch of guardian angel and homerun it bugs u in the air but I was in slapple island then an exploiter used swapper and teleport to slapple he teleports me on top of the cube of death then he used max homerun and he killed me... The same thing with track users... Pls rocky help

  • @Somerandomguy_115
    @Somerandomguy_115 6 месяцев назад

    yeah I got banned for speed hacking :P I miss slap battles ngl

  • @iljaspog6969-.-
    @iljaspog6969-.- 5 месяцев назад

    playing on an alt while your main is banned? is that even bad? like cant i just play the game on a different acc?

  • @King-kn9ns
    @King-kn9ns 5 месяцев назад +1

    Hey can someone pls help me so i was banned from the sb discord server for not verificating my age in time because i was in vacation and now im permanently banned from the server even tho im old enough to be in the server.

  • @rush6716
    @rush6716 7 месяцев назад

    SO YOUR TELLING ME, THAT I HAVE BEEN SLAP FARMMING MY ENTIRE LIFE OF SLAP BATTLES, AND I HAD NOT GOTTEN BANNED???
    naw im telling an admin about this.

  • @prtcey
    @prtcey 7 месяцев назад

    small feedback here: you should add video examples onto the video for people to understand it easier and generally improve the quality, just a video with text running is quite boring you know what I mean.

    • @StickmanTT
      @StickmanTT 7 месяцев назад

      That would be nice but would sometimes be somewhat difficult. Like showing off a glitch or smth.

  • @apollov197
    @apollov197 5 месяцев назад

    so attacking a kinetic un purpose by attacking them just to see a big explosion is slap farming? i dont think this count though...

    • @TZGBRO
      @TZGBRO 4 месяца назад

      it does cuz you gain slaps from the same person

  • @coolgamerkid2667
    @coolgamerkid2667 6 месяцев назад

    What about hitbox? Mine says Exstened hit box

  • @EggyPink
    @EggyPink 7 месяцев назад +3

    Is this video for me?

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  7 месяцев назад

      for every sb player

    • @EggyPink
      @EggyPink 7 месяцев назад

      @@basicrocky i mean i got slap reseted a few days ago and suddenly everyone talks about ze rules

  • @LizardOnTheInternet
    @LizardOnTheInternet 7 месяцев назад

    dang it, i saw this guy in sr saying that he got banned for 2 days on his main for tab glitching, his alts user was very similar to his main so i could have got him perm banned.

  • @NounouRayyan
    @NounouRayyan 6 месяцев назад

    For the glitch @nd bug ones does fun glitches like the booster glitch can you get banned from doing that

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  6 месяцев назад

      you can get banned for doing it in public servers i think

  • @Ilikebees69
    @Ilikebees69 7 месяцев назад

    You should not only look at slap battles rules but also at rules in your discord

  • @gabrielkaktingomesdeolivei868
    @gabrielkaktingomesdeolivei868 6 месяцев назад +1

    Is lag considered tab?

  • @giraffelove12
    @giraffelove12 7 месяцев назад

    Can someone help me?
    I made a leak video (but I didn’t exploit into the test server or whatever)
    But
    Now i privated it so less people will know about this upcoming update
    Not many people even saw it ._.
    I will never leak again, i learned my lesson
    I had so many badges, gamepasses, and slaps
    I didnt know it was against rules to LEAK! WHY AM I SO DUMB?!!
    I can go on, but is there any hope for me?
    Can someone help me get all of it back?
    Or am i just gone.. never playing the game AGAIN!!??!?!?!!
    I NEED HELP
    IM LOSING MY MIND

  • @attilaferenccseke5308
    @attilaferenccseke5308 7 месяцев назад

    Oh yeah, I remember now. So that's why i got banned from slap battles bc of "votekick spam". I just clicked on the kick Button and I didn't even stop. Well, I didn' know that I can get banned for this 😕
    Eh, who cares, its my problem. Whatever I did, I accept my punishment. I just got banned for 2 days anyway.

  • @Markooo2021_roblox
    @Markooo2021_roblox 7 месяцев назад

    once someone reaches 100 from Killstreak farming you can error him
    SIKE you can not do anything

  • @Bobplushyay
    @Bobplushyay 7 месяцев назад

    Once I lagged bad and walk to a candy corn and it said how did you get a candy corn that far away and I got kicked

  • @igiggleandshitmyself
    @igiggleandshitmyself 2 месяца назад

    Number 3 I broke but I got perm banned on my old account

  • @anandbatbayar9256
    @anandbatbayar9256 7 месяцев назад

    I always get kicked when im lagging too much bcz the game thinks im exploiting while im lagging ☠️

  • @elrashomcqueenxd6248
    @elrashomcqueenxd6248 5 месяцев назад

    Can I be banned if a friend is helping me with Guardian Angel while I kill random people?

  • @FusionXGold
    @FusionXGold 6 месяцев назад

    already got banned tor infinity jumping :I

  • @Spamton_G._spamton936
    @Spamton_G._spamton936 2 месяца назад

    NOOOOOOO I SLAPED A GLITCH USER A BUCH AND AND SOMEONE WITH A BUG AVATAR! AND I GROW SLAPPLES NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  • @SPPOoOKyyy
    @SPPOoOKyyy 5 месяцев назад

    Can you still be punished if you kill farm on private servers?

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  5 месяцев назад

      nope
      it's only punishable if you do it in public servers
      btw you can kill farm in the killstreak only gamemode too

    • @SPPOoOKyyy
      @SPPOoOKyyy 5 месяцев назад

      @@basicrocky thank you

  • @EFOUR9TY
    @EFOUR9TY 6 месяцев назад

    People who had to watch in 0.5x speed

  • @TheGhostOfPyke
    @TheGhostOfPyke 7 месяцев назад

    Hi rocky remember me when i met u in slap royale 🙂

  • @liaanddrei7247
    @liaanddrei7247 5 месяцев назад

    wow being perm banned on your main and alt just because your playing in your alt?

  • @The_Enricher7
    @The_Enricher7 4 месяца назад

    Bet. While I Was Counting For Kinetic I Got Banned From Roblox For 1 Day Because..... I SAID 23!?!

  • @SlwGold
    @SlwGold 7 месяцев назад

    Ima break rulez (I got ban lone time ago
    😢)

  • @supreme4D
    @supreme4D 6 месяцев назад

    I once said Sonics death Lol that isn’t real So i will get permanently banned now 😢

  • @rishikeshrajeev5525
    @rishikeshrajeev5525 4 месяца назад

    Can anyone pls say?? Will i get banned if i play on an alt account if my main gets banned from roblox? I got banned from bullying a hacker who ruined my deto run

  • @TheNPCwhoasked
    @TheNPCwhoasked 7 месяцев назад

    People use alts to exploit now ;-;

  • @arrmorningstar
    @arrmorningstar 5 месяцев назад

    can you make glitches in private servers

    • @TheAndroidGamer367
      @TheAndroidGamer367 2 месяца назад

      Yes It exactly same as slap farming. It doesn't ruin anybody fun.

  • @asdfclips208
    @asdfclips208 7 месяцев назад

    all of us are gonna be banned for 9/11 jokes oh no

  • @TheSecretTunnelTo50
    @TheSecretTunnelTo50 7 месяцев назад

    I Think That OVERKILL Is Better Than God Hand Because
    1- Easy To Obtain
    2-INFINITE Power
    3-INFNITE Speed(Good For Grinding)
    4- Unique Ability "Hot Touch"(Hot Touch Means When Someone Dares To Touch The Glove Will Instantly Die And Will Be Sent In Insane Distance)
    5-Has Special Slap Effect(The Explosion Of Fire Upon Every Slap)
    6-Good For newbie Players

    • @xxGreenRoblox
      @xxGreenRoblox 7 месяцев назад

      "easy to obtain" are you insane sir easy to obtain only applys to things you can't get within 3 picoseconds of joining by paying

    • @defintlynoob4263
      @defintlynoob4263 6 месяцев назад +1

      gods hand can fucking stop time and hot touch doesnt give slaps. using overkill will get you targetted by 10 different shard users that usually have over 30k slaps. if you use this to grind slaps thats honestly a skill issue and an idiotic decision. maybe practice instead of stealing your mom's credit card

  • @Mr_Watermelon_Cat
    @Mr_Watermelon_Cat 7 месяцев назад

    How do I avoid getting banned on Roblox tho I got banned today lol

  • @evenildapolanco4057
    @evenildapolanco4057 7 месяцев назад

    i got banned for 3 days for no reason😢 1:08

  • @rehanzaman4037
    @rehanzaman4037 7 месяцев назад

    Is the ban for "infinity jumping" appealable?

    • @ihaveobtainedrealism
      @ihaveobtainedrealism 7 месяцев назад

      that's exploiting, so it's not appealable (unless you have CLEAR evidence that you didn't exploit)

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  6 месяцев назад

      i dont think so

  • @dont_really_care0
    @dont_really_care0 7 месяцев назад

    rocky demos

  • @omaraziz3255
    @omaraziz3255 3 месяца назад

    Man I got band for reason speed also I am not hacking I am useing iOS :( I hate slap battles I had 217k slaps

  • @markusmiler7263
    @markusmiler7263 7 месяцев назад

    ye i submited a ticket but it sayd i can't do a appel on an antycheat ban!

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  7 месяцев назад +1

      if you have proof you can appeal but if you don't, you can't

  • @giraffelove12
    @giraffelove12 7 месяцев назад

    I made a video about because i was banned. I need a mod to see it. Help me out here anyone! Do anything you can to help me

  • @محمدسعيد-ض1ل2ر
    @محمدسعيد-ض1ل2ر 6 месяцев назад

    Bruh someone hack my main account then he use exploit at slap battles so I got a perm banned 😢😢😢😢😢

  • @arkas1006
    @arkas1006 7 месяцев назад +1

    this will help ppl begging to get unbanned lol

  • @SlwGold
    @SlwGold 7 месяцев назад

    Be careful guys!💀

    • @omccc
      @omccc 7 месяцев назад

      Be careful you can get banned for using the skull emoji ;)

  • @Laalaa420
    @Laalaa420 7 месяцев назад

    i am get banned name Jumping fly phone

  • @folder0n
    @folder0n 7 месяцев назад

    Best rules ever

    • @domenicosabatelli1796
      @domenicosabatelli1796 7 месяцев назад

      says the rule breaker

    • @folder0n
      @folder0n 7 месяцев назад

      @@domenicosabatelli1796 u rules breaking every day so shut the Fuck up

    • @user-cu2ne5fh3f
      @user-cu2ne5fh3f 7 месяцев назад

      Wow

    • @Flingtheobbyist
      @Flingtheobbyist 7 месяцев назад

      quit yapping lil bro

    • @defintlynoob4263
      @defintlynoob4263 6 месяцев назад

      @@Flingtheobbyist hes not wrong, the toxicity rules are batshit crazy

  • @Kyrnovice
    @Kyrnovice 7 месяцев назад

    7:08 BRUH

    • @basicrocky
      @basicrocky  7 месяцев назад

      i said 4th degree leaking is not punishable

    • @Kyrnovice
      @Kyrnovice 7 месяцев назад

      Yes I know

  • @PdPartyNoob
    @PdPartyNoob 7 месяцев назад

    I got account deleted by saying Stop hacking lol

  • @YaydenSantanas-wn1vl
    @YaydenSantanas-wn1vl 7 месяцев назад

    Yeahhhhhhhh

  • @RenanSilva-z8k
    @RenanSilva-z8k 7 месяцев назад

    por favor me ajude tem faz anos que eu tô banido Ten 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @nguyentuanphong7308
    @nguyentuanphong7308 7 месяцев назад

    are autoclicks allow?

    • @defintlynoob4263
      @defintlynoob4263 6 месяцев назад

      yes, and its not as if they have an advantage XD

  • @Indo_0255
    @Indo_0255 5 месяцев назад

    rtw

  • @SlwGold
    @SlwGold 7 месяцев назад

    First

  • @robdislikesbob832
    @robdislikesbob832 7 месяцев назад

    RAHHHHHHHHHH
    pin

    • @StickmanTT
      @StickmanTT 7 месяцев назад

      a tad bit too late there (i stole it)

  • @metal_slide_hotter_than_sun
    @metal_slide_hotter_than_sun 6 месяцев назад +2

    yo if whe say "killerfish" in the chat in the tournment would it considered bug or not?