Interesting episode. One thing I remember about LSTs is that the first approximately 500 were built with an elevator, which would take hours to fully unload. After that they were larger and had a ramp and could be unloaded in less than an hour. Anytime I see an LST pictured on a beach, I think about this.
Excellent program. Thoroughly enjoy these analyses and discussions of logistics and materiel. The wartime mobilization against an evil and existential threat reminds us of the ancient proverb "our need will be the real creator" more often quoted as "necessity is the mother of invention". Well done gentlemen. Look forward to part 2.
Thank you Andrew & Woody, it is really fascinating to see how the Allies addressed the needs of the D-Day landings, with the sheer variety and numbers of craft and ships required. Great to see the details on how they were re-purposed as specific roles were identified. Looking forward to Pt 2!!! You do such a great job of getting such interesting presenters onto the channel, especially when tackling such under represented topics as this one👍
@@WW2TV And that is a compliment to you Woody, the work you have put in to create such a high quality channel,covering such a diverse range of WW2 subjects over the last 4 yrs means that people like me get to learn so much more about the conflict than we would have achieved on our own. So it is great that your channel actually attracts new presenters. Thank you once again👏
Great presentation, definitely a subject that needed more coverage. I have the book on my shelf and am looking forward to digging in. Thank you gentlemen.
I am 70 yrs old, so putting forward through numerous visuals of "D"Day and some aftermath of the military films many of us have seen those landings. It makes sense that a landing craft had more than one landing on the beach during those weeks. It also makes sense that those navies involved would be dedicated to unload specific cargo or troops from whichever craft, British, Canadian, American etc. etc. The general difficulty is remembering that it was through Normandy that all, ammo to shoes, mail and newspapers, were delivered by those nimble craft from the larger ones to the shore. While fuel was pumped across the channel via a pipeline from shore to shore; something I don't think the Germans had considered. There has been a filmed scene that has become iconic of a British seaman at the controls of an LC looking like another day in a Black Cab or Lorry. He was not the best looking man but a typical Brit, kind of like a version of Popeye in real life who was calm and collected during D-Day pulling away from a troop ship with his LC loaded with men heading for the beach. There were many of these LC that were lost on the first hours of the landings but these men kept dropping off their charges and going back again and again hour after hour to retrieve and disgorge 20 to 30 men, vehicles and weapons, ammo and bandages on to those beaches while fired on then when those guns were silent, men and materials onto those beaches for weeks until Antwerp was opened. I have often wondered why they allies did not employ dirigibles to transport fuel for the Third Army closer to their front lines when they had broke the German Army? They had control of the skies and seas.
Andrew's point about the American approach to overloading the boats carries over into aircraft as well. This is exemplified in gliders for example. Great point about understanding the urgency and idea of preparedness the supply aspect took on for the individual soldier and their units.
@@WW2TV Fantastic :) Just started listening now... it's that great feeling when I see you drop a vid about anything D-Day related and I know i got a good hour or so of mapping for some game and chilling out. Thanks Paul for hosting all these, and never stop.. please :)
Amazing! I never knew how many types of craft were involved on D-Day. Plus, I was always confused by the different acronyms used. This presentation has been both informative and clarifying. Thank you, Woody and Andrew.
Am glad the U.S. Coast Guard got a shout-out at 21:21. Primarily operating on U.S. coasts and rivers in peacetime, they played a significant role crewing U.S. landing craft during World War II. Douglas Munro received the Coast Guard's only Medal of Honor posthumously for "extraordinary heroism" during an extraction mission for hard-pressed Marines on Guadalcanal.
The painting at 23:41 is of Signalman First Class Douglas Munro at Guadalcanal in his "Higgens Boat" firing at the Japanese as he and his crew rescued US Marines trapped on the beach.
Thank you Andrew Whitmarsh! I can't wait for the next part, it was very intresting to hear all the details about the diffrent crafts. Will there be more stories from the sailors who piloted the crafts in the next one? Anyways, i sure enjoyed it :)
thank you WW2TV for letting me nerd out on D Day landing craft. bloody excellent ! thanks for Andrew Whitmarsh's brilliant presentation. to top it off, england beat holland.
Superb! This is exactly the detail and data that has long interested me but well beyond my grasp and I love it! Mr Whitmarsh delivers his exacting research with a great effectiveness and fantastic photographs!
Hell, in that photo (Casablanca) You had our top 3. Le May, King and Eisenhower with the President. Security must have been absolutely on edge. I am afraid you will have to inform me who is behind Churchill.
The reason Eisenhower said that of Higgins was the acknowledgment of the Pacific Theater. Higgins boat works produced tens of thousands of the boats, massive numbers destined for the Pacific. No argument the Commonwealth had extraordinary experience in designing and building landing craft. What Eurocentric historians sometimes forget is American generals who fought in the ETA were in massive internal US resource allocation battles with their countrymen fighting a massive campaign theirEuropean counterparts were largely not a part of. That campaign was the murderously brutal island hopping campaign. The Australians were deeply involved in the Solomons, but the Pacific Theater offensive campaign for the Americans in particular, was beach assault centric for 1942, 43, 44, and except for the atomic bombs, 1945 would have dwarfed 42-44. So, from an American General, Higgins made a contribution far and away greater than most Europeans appreciate. It is no accident the “D-Day”, later renamed “The World War 2 Museum” is in New Orleans. A tribute to Higgins.
Bit of a weird picture at 38 mins, it seems the LCI(L) has its side ladder in the water? Or is it the one where the Bow Doors open like a LST? Great video explaining these craft. possibly an explanatory cut away picture would explain much. I was already pretty much in the know but to others that were not, its simple and explanatory. Looking forward to part 2.
Regarding the comment of the well-dressed landing craft crew and that having everyone 'uniform' was not the norm starting around 13:14: British Army regiments' uniforms are unique based on their histories -- headgear, feathers with some red in them, etc. -- and a joke that circulated among Americans was that if two British officers showed up for an event in the same uniform, the junior officer would be sent away to change.
Have been building a 1/72 LCM3 kit (Dragon) converting it from a US craft to British. Trying to find any information about those used on D-Day has been like trying to find a virgin in a brothel. (Not that I have any experience of looking for anything or anyone in a brothel! Honest! In any case, I would be the virgin!)
Something I've always wondered is what the assault platoon organization for the British was. I know exactly how the Americans organized their troops in the landing craft: what position they would stand and what equipment they'd carry. However, I have no idea about the British in that regard. Where could I find information on this?
Any of u cats who do these history shows ever think - it may be gross but bet would sell like mad - TO MAKE A COLORIZED DOCUMENTARY OF UNEDITED PHOTOS OF DEAD SOLDIERS FROM THE WORLD WARS. Know many of us consumers who dig history find it poignant to see unedited photos of war dead. Bet if u guys who do these history docs made a film like that would be very successful and so unique..
Point 1 - such a video would not pass RUclips's rules about dead bodies support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802008?hl=en. Point 2 - We all know that millions died in the war, what would a video like that achieve? What would we learn from it? It would be tasteless, inappropriate and disrespectful
@@WW2TVKnow YT wouldn't do it but many many history consumers find those pictures poignant. Bet it would be very successful in other venues besides YT of course.
@@WW2TVBut bet it would be successful. It may be uncomfortable but many history consumers maybe perversely watch uncensored photos on the dead - has way more emotional impact too. Just an idea! But seriously think a documentary as that would be so so unusual, unique and very profitable.
Interesting episode. One thing I remember about LSTs is that the first approximately 500 were built with an elevator, which would take hours to fully unload. After that they were larger and had a ramp and could be unloaded in less than an hour. Anytime I see an LST pictured on a beach, I think about this.
Excellent program. Thoroughly enjoy these analyses and discussions of logistics and materiel. The wartime mobilization against an evil and existential threat reminds us of the ancient proverb "our need will be the real creator" more often quoted as "necessity is the mother of invention". Well done gentlemen. Look forward to part 2.
Thank you Andrew & Woody, it is really fascinating to see how the Allies addressed the needs of the D-Day landings, with the sheer variety and numbers of craft and ships required. Great to see the details on how they were re-purposed as specific roles were identified. Looking forward to Pt 2!!!
You do such a great job of getting such interesting presenters onto the channel, especially when tackling such under represented topics as this one👍
Thank you very much, but these days, a lot of guests come to me
@@WW2TV And that is a compliment to you Woody, the work you have put in to create such a high quality channel,covering such a diverse range of WW2 subjects over the last 4 yrs means that people like me get to learn so much more about the conflict than we would have achieved on our own. So it is great that your channel actually attracts new presenters. Thank you once again👏
Great presentation, definitely a subject that needed more coverage. I have the book on my shelf and am looking forward to digging in. Thank you gentlemen.
Awesome, thank you!
Nice to see he used a photo with my dad on the bridge of LCI 135 at 41:39.😊
Great presentation, so much awesome info which I never knew! Great job.
I am 70 yrs old, so putting forward through numerous visuals of "D"Day and some aftermath of the military films many of us have seen those landings. It makes sense that a landing craft had more than one landing on the beach during those weeks. It also makes sense that those navies involved would be dedicated to unload specific cargo or troops from whichever craft, British, Canadian, American etc. etc. The general difficulty is remembering that it was through Normandy that all, ammo to shoes, mail and newspapers, were delivered by those nimble craft from the larger ones to the shore. While fuel was pumped across the channel via a pipeline from shore to shore; something I don't think the Germans had considered. There has been a filmed scene that has become iconic of a British seaman at the controls of an LC looking like another day in a Black Cab or Lorry. He was not the best looking man but a typical Brit, kind of like a version of Popeye in real life who was calm and collected during D-Day pulling away from a troop ship with his LC loaded with men heading for the beach. There were many of these LC that were lost on the first hours of the landings but these men kept dropping off their charges and going back again and again hour after hour to retrieve and disgorge 20 to 30 men, vehicles and weapons, ammo and bandages on to those beaches while fired on then when those guns were silent, men and materials onto those beaches for weeks until Antwerp was opened. I have often wondered why they allies did not employ dirigibles to transport fuel for the Third Army closer to their front lines when they had broke the German Army? They had control of the skies and seas.
Andrew's point about the American approach to overloading the boats carries over into aircraft as well. This is exemplified in gliders for example. Great point about understanding the urgency and idea of preparedness the supply aspect took on for the individual soldier and their units.
First time I’ve ever seen an explanation of the different landing craft/ships
I have to declare a landing craft nerdy interest, my dad was on Landing Craft (LCTs and LCI(L)s in WW2. And I’m a volunteer on LCT7074 😄
Oooh! This gonna be great! :)
It was PACKED with detail
@@WW2TV Fantastic :) Just started listening now... it's that great feeling when I see you drop a vid about anything D-Day related and I know i got a good hour or so of mapping for some game and chilling out.
Thanks Paul for hosting all these, and never stop.. please :)
Amazing! I never knew how many types of craft were involved on D-Day. Plus, I was always confused by the different acronyms used. This presentation has been both informative and clarifying. Thank you, Woody and Andrew.
Am glad the U.S. Coast Guard got a shout-out at 21:21. Primarily operating on U.S. coasts and rivers in peacetime, they played a significant role crewing U.S. landing craft during World War II. Douglas Munro received the Coast Guard's only Medal of Honor posthumously for "extraordinary heroism" during an extraction mission for hard-pressed Marines on Guadalcanal.
There is a memorial to the US CG crews on Poole Bridge in Dorset.
The painting at 23:41 is of Signalman First Class Douglas Munro at Guadalcanal in his "Higgens Boat" firing at the Japanese as he and his crew rescued US Marines trapped on the beach.
Thanks Andrew and Paul, just watched this through, great stuff...
Just part 1 and its almost 2 hours already. 😂
Thanks for providing all this quality content Paul!
Excellent. It is amazing how many different designs were produced....in the numbers needed.
Thank you Andrew Whitmarsh! I can't wait for the next part, it was very intresting to hear all the details about the diffrent crafts.
Will there be more stories from the sailors who piloted the crafts in the next one?
Anyways, i sure enjoyed it :)
I remember reading Churchills books and his correspondence with Roosevelt, and it was all about the numbers o f landing craft needed and available
thank you WW2TV for letting me nerd out on D Day landing craft. bloody excellent ! thanks for Andrew Whitmarsh's brilliant presentation. to top it off, england beat holland.
Fantastic!!
Thanks WW2TV
Thanks for this very detailed talk.
One of your best, Woody! Many aspects that I was only dimly aware of came to the fore.
Very informative. Many thx
Wow! This was jammed packed with great information on landing crafts. Learned so much. Looking forward to watching the 2nd part.
Another great and informative show
The Lst 325 shown at 1:11:00 is docked in Evansville, Indiana, USA. They give tours and take it to different cities once a year.
Superb! This is exactly the detail and data that has long interested me but well beyond my grasp and I love it!
Mr Whitmarsh delivers his exacting research with a great effectiveness and fantastic photographs!
Thanks 👍
Excellent presentation.
Hell, in that photo (Casablanca) You had our top 3. Le May, King and Eisenhower with the President. Security must have been absolutely on edge. I am afraid you will have to inform me who is behind Churchill.
Great show
The reason Eisenhower said that of Higgins was the acknowledgment of the Pacific Theater. Higgins boat works produced tens of thousands of the boats, massive numbers destined for the Pacific. No argument the Commonwealth had extraordinary experience in designing and building landing craft. What Eurocentric historians sometimes forget is American generals who fought in the ETA were in massive internal US resource allocation battles with their countrymen fighting a massive campaign theirEuropean counterparts were largely not a part of.
That campaign was the murderously brutal island hopping campaign. The Australians were deeply involved in the Solomons, but the Pacific Theater offensive campaign for the Americans in particular, was beach assault centric for 1942, 43, 44, and except for the atomic bombs, 1945 would have dwarfed 42-44.
So, from an American General, Higgins made a contribution far and away greater than most Europeans appreciate. It is no accident the “D-Day”, later renamed “The World War 2 Museum” is in New Orleans. A tribute to Higgins.
Very good point. When Roosevelt assured Churchill that the US agreed to Europe first, Admiral King was kind of, Yes but no.
Bit of a weird picture at 38 mins, it seems the LCI(L) has its side ladder in the water? Or is it the one where the Bow Doors open like a LST? Great video explaining these craft. possibly an explanatory cut away picture would explain much. I was already pretty much in the know but to others that were not, its simple and explanatory. Looking forward to part 2.
Regarding the comment of the well-dressed landing craft crew and that having everyone 'uniform' was not the norm starting around 13:14: British Army regiments' uniforms are unique based on their histories -- headgear, feathers with some red in them, etc. -- and a joke that circulated among Americans was that if two British officers showed up for an event in the same uniform, the junior officer would be sent away to change.
Have been building a 1/72 LCM3 kit (Dragon) converting it from a US craft to British.
Trying to find any information about those used on D-Day has been like trying to find a virgin in a brothel.
(Not that I have any experience of looking for anything or anyone in a brothel! Honest! In any case, I would be the virgin!)
😆👏
Something I've always wondered is what the assault platoon organization for the British was. I know exactly how the Americans organized their troops in the landing craft: what position they would stand and what equipment they'd carry. However, I have no idea about the British in that regard. Where could I find information on this?
I don't think there was a standard set up for British units. it varied from regiment to regiment
When is Part 2?
Not sure, August maybe. Possibly late July
Any of u cats who do these history shows ever think - it may be gross but bet would sell like mad - TO MAKE A COLORIZED DOCUMENTARY OF UNEDITED PHOTOS OF DEAD SOLDIERS FROM THE WORLD WARS. Know many of us consumers who dig history find it poignant to see unedited photos of war dead. Bet if u guys who do these history docs made a film like that would be very successful and so unique..
Point 1 - such a video would not pass RUclips's rules about dead bodies support.google.com/youtube/answer/2802008?hl=en. Point 2 - We all know that millions died in the war, what would a video like that achieve? What would we learn from it? It would be tasteless, inappropriate and disrespectful
@@WW2TVKnow YT wouldn't do it but many many history consumers find those pictures poignant. Bet it would be very successful in other venues besides YT of course.
I agree with showing some images of corpses within the context of a regular documentary, but a compilation of just dead bodies offers nothing
@@WW2TVBut bet it would be successful. It may be uncomfortable but many history consumers maybe perversely watch uncensored photos on the dead - has way more emotional impact too. Just an idea! But seriously think a documentary as that would be so so unusual, unique and very profitable.
Well, I won't be doing it on WW2TV