I Turned This Smoking Broken Down $700 4x4 ATV Into a $3000 ATV

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  • Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
  • I buy a 2004 Polaris Sportsman 700cc 4x4 ATV after the seller gave up on fixing it. I rebuild it after finding out it smokes a lot. #Polaris, #BigBore, #Fix,
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  • @MrCmetzler
    @MrCmetzler 7 месяцев назад +11

    This series helped me redo my own 2004 Polaris Sportsman 600. Turned into 700. Thanks for the video!!!

  • @edkennard72
    @edkennard72 Год назад +34

    I can tell that this is going to be an awesome video just by the detail that he's explaining about the rings and using the steel wool to clean the interior of the cylinders and I know when he's done it's going to run like a brand new piece of equipment and it's been interesting to watch all of the troubleshooting and figuring out what's wrong with it a great series of videos thank you very much Joe for taking the time to explain everything as you go along

  • @billhartsfield424
    @billhartsfield424 Год назад +6

    I told you in the first video the previous owner didn’t know what he was doing. Glad you finally tore it down and put it together correctly. Now you have a decent machine.

  • @dougw2787
    @dougw2787 Год назад +11

    I am digging this rebuild. I definitely learned something new regarding the piston rings. As someone who has never rebuilt an engine, I was impressed that you knew about the taper and the orientation of the rings and the piston orientation. Great job and thanks for the content!

    • @M.TTT.
      @M.TTT. Год назад

      that's why we read the service manuals

  • @ВладимирЮрьевич-ф9и

    The bolt you found in the CVT holds the ring behind the primary CVT. There is a very strong ringing when driving, I think you should look into the variator again. Thanks for the video, greetings from Ukraine!

  • @mikewhitley1183
    @mikewhitley1183 8 месяцев назад +3

    I just wanted to say I admire your knowledge and your patience! I would probably at this point be saying ugly words and throwing Tools around but I have learned a great deal watching you build and rebuild that particular quad, Mike

  • @qwerty-fc9ix
    @qwerty-fc9ix Год назад +76

    Don't know if its just me but it does sound like the CVT could be a bit tighter. Revs a bit too high imo. Nice job!

    • @baybuoy3843
      @baybuoy3843 Год назад +7

      May be the aftermarket primary clutch causing the high rev.

    • @benschlack5814
      @benschlack5814 Год назад +30

      I've been telling him that thing is revving to the moon and isn't going anywhere

    • @Mrsomething854
      @Mrsomething854 Год назад +2

      Yeah it’s just hitting the rev limiter

    • @jerrywilcox9890
      @jerrywilcox9890 Год назад +2

      It's just you

    • @jerrywilcox9890
      @jerrywilcox9890 Год назад +3

      ​@benschlack5814 it's not reved to the moon lol.

  • @JohnnieBravo1
    @JohnnieBravo1 Год назад +16

    No worries on how many, and how long, the video parts are! They are truly educational, and entertaining. Gearheads want to see it ALL. I went thru similar on my Yamaha Warrior, that was somehow bent, fast, and uncontrollable. It almost seemed to be alive, and its mission was to kill me as painfully as possible. I pulled it in my garage last year, determined to find the problem(s), and fix them. Having zero knowledge of their construction, and even less video editing knowledge, I just recorded ALL the education trials, failures, and eventual success on getting it fixed. Having now learned some editing skills, I could likely take the hours of raw video (which are up on my microscopic youtube channel) and edit them down to about 30 minutes of video. I always look forward to your videos. Our ATV's: my 2002 Yamaha Warrior, my son's Polaris Sawtooth, my daughter's Suzuki LT80.

  • @thebigdustin
    @thebigdustin Год назад +24

    Seems a little gutless for a 700. Maybe you can get different weights for the clutch. It’s rattles a lot. I’m sure you just want to get rid of it though. Great video series.

    • @jerrywilcox9890
      @jerrywilcox9890 Год назад +1

      It's just you.

    • @gabrielgalaxygh
      @gabrielgalaxygh Год назад +8

      Yeah at this point you ignore the noise and sell it lmao

    • @TraveladvRajanSRai
      @TraveladvRajanSRai Год назад

      jus exhasut its a 600 twin

    • @jerrywilcox9890
      @jerrywilcox9890 Год назад +1

      @@TraveladvRajanSRai you evidently didn't watch the video lol.

    • @Yolobrohs
      @Yolobrohs Год назад

      i did all my research and the 800 is where the cams are different so it was fine for me to leave the 600 cam shaft in the block. @@leecrumble3921

  • @GNX157
    @GNX157 Год назад +4

    There’s still something up with he clutch. There’s a noise in there still at idle and the CVT clutch isn’t expanding like it should once it gets going.

  • @shaunhardie6077
    @shaunhardie6077 Год назад +2

    Great to see it finally fixed and running properly, but that exhaust sounds terrible, definitely needs changing in my opinion.

  • @shawnandcoraself7321
    @shawnandcoraself7321 Год назад +4

    Clutch sounds a little off probably not weighted correctly. Engine sounds great!

  • @MM_in_Havasu
    @MM_in_Havasu Год назад +3

    Excellent job, Joe! That thing rips pretty good! You might want to look into lowering the CVT engagement RPM so it's not screaming all the time, and it should pull just fine as well.
    Thanks for a great series on this rig!

    • @daffyduck9901
      @daffyduck9901 Год назад

      Joe is a total novice got so many things wrong he doesn't know Jack schitt

  • @maweaver68
    @maweaver68 Год назад +2

    I'd pay that if we were closer.
    Great job. This series has been very informational. My wife has the 2004 Sportsman 500.

  • @lloydgreen4091
    @lloydgreen4091 Год назад +2

    Joe One of the Best &.... one of the Best *Ring Jobs* I've Seen on RUclips. Very Educational. "You CAN Teach an Old Dog New Tricks." Thank You So Much For Doing These Videos For Us.

  • @joeyahsam1528
    @joeyahsam1528 14 дней назад

    awesome series of videos on this repair. I watched all of them. Great to see someone share this level of troubleshooting on these machines with full video of all steps on the repair. I know how it is after spending a lot of time to repair and then when it’s all back together again, up’s, it’s not starting. Damnit, vacuum hose!!! Good job on the repair. What would you sell it for now?

  • @RC-fu6hg
    @RC-fu6hg Год назад +3

    What cute playful pup. It’s like he knows you’ll get it running.

    • @douglasr.c.5622
      @douglasr.c.5622 Год назад

      That's Vinny. He's not shy at all. In fact, he loves to poop on camera .

  • @thomasheller1526
    @thomasheller1526 21 день назад

    Your knowledge and skill are impressive! But your character is what stands out most to me.

  • @darrynruzicka2883
    @darrynruzicka2883 Год назад +5

    Stuff rags down in the cases when installing, in this case, pistons and the cylinders and the way you did it is the only way but when you go to install the circlips and one drops down into the cylinders you are then in for a whole new project. The reason the magnet won't stick to the valves is because they are likely stainless. Or very unlikely but titanium.

  • @navigatorx1013
    @navigatorx1013 Год назад +3

    Good job. Gotta wonder how a screw got loose in that Mother Clutcher.

  • @secondcreekworkshop3908
    @secondcreekworkshop3908 Год назад +1

    I have scored a few good facebook market place finds the last month, a 2000 Honda Rancher 4x4 foot shift for $50 runs stuck in gear and a 1997 Honda TRX 200 series 2 for a $100, owner said it was stuck in gear but it was the rear brakes seiezed.

  • @CostaMesaPhotography
    @CostaMesaPhotography 7 месяцев назад

    I'm catching up on your past projects...recently discovered your channel. I'm so impressed with you knowledge and experience. I almost have a sense of accomplishment watching YOU fix stuff! I noticed at the 35:53 mark in this video when you were checking to see if you solved the smoking problem a burst of flame came out of the tail pipe...not sure if you noticed that on playback (you weren't standing behind the machine (like we were) but were up at the controls. Anyway, kudos to you and thanks for the education!!

  • @Damon1864
    @Damon1864 Год назад +2

    You have become my favorite RUclipsr! Always good to see your new content. I don't know how you find the time to churn out these projects!!!

  • @fraes2465
    @fraes2465 Год назад +2

    What's that metallic rattling/clanking? A plate loose somewhere? Would drive me nuts.. 😅 was it not audible while sitting on it? The mic might pick it up better, because when you turn around to look for smoke you can't hear it.. But on low revs, like in the beginning when backing it down from the trailer, riding on low revs between trees and second break in run when turning around by reversing. I didn't see anyone asking about it so maybe you mentioned it, apologize if I missed it!

  • @greggmeyer5836
    @greggmeyer5836 6 месяцев назад

    There is so much hidden knowledge from experience that people who are new to this accidentally screw up a lot of things. These motors are complex pieces of engineering and demand a knowledge that comes with gourds and hours of experience. My hat is off to you.Your posts are amazing how detailed you are on all these screwed up items.
    😊

  • @nigelcox7477
    @nigelcox7477 Год назад +2

    Great work Joe… persistence paid off. Just needs a jet wash. Cheers!

  • @craigmorgan4676
    @craigmorgan4676 Год назад +6

    This is a beaut ,but FULL of fail and trouble, good luck brother!😮🤨😫😫😫👁🙏🙏🙏👌👊🦾

  • @franknile
    @franknile Год назад +1

    Nice work and enough faults to investigate well done sounds nice
    Good job 👍

  • @allan9603
    @allan9603 Год назад +2

    Joe you should be called "professor Joe" due to your ability to troubleshoot and overcome!😅😊
    Great series!
    Allan in Columbia, SC

  • @JJ-JOHNSON
    @JJ-JOHNSON Год назад +3

    Gotta love Vinny, the quad whisperer. Run Vinny Run. 🐕🐶

  • @rockman49er
    @rockman49er 9 месяцев назад

    I've been watching this channel every day for almost a year now learning lots of tricks and how to fix all my quads and bikes that have been sitting for 20 plus years now all of them work again i also got all kinds of new tools thanks joe for all you do merry Christmas to you and your family give viny a bone for me 😅

  • @kobybear08
    @kobybear08 Год назад +2

    With your helmet on and your camera microphone is picking up a steady stream of ringing rubbing sound curious what's causing that particular sound, as if some ones rubbing a spoon around in a kettle.
    Glad You got it running to a certain level of acceptability that your ok with, are you going to keep it or sell it up for another project, curious, Great Shop Performance Joe, really enjoy your shop time videos, have a great day You and Vinnie and your Wife as well.

  • @petepeabody8905
    @petepeabody8905 Год назад +1

    This one was a ton of work. When it all comes together you gotta giggle. Great job my good man

  • @dowdawg
    @dowdawg Год назад +5

    Great job man putting that cylinder on had to be one big pain in the butt!! I’m hearing a high-pitched ping. When accelerating is it clutch? Probably normal.

    • @rockman49er
      @rockman49er 9 месяцев назад

      It sounds like the exhaust to me my 85 trx125 does the same thing it's probably fine

  • @LivingNed
    @LivingNed Год назад +3

    Wow what a journey, awesome job!

  • @ibfapa
    @ibfapa Год назад +2

    Good job man! But you dont hear that ratteling?

  • @thomasdausch8557
    @thomasdausch8557 Год назад +1

    Hey Joe ,great job tks for sharing, remember folks thats an old Quad , not like a new one, we all forget that,, hey Joe as i watch you riding the trails it looks like you need a vertical sickle to trim the trails as you ride them,, great video sir, ride safe

  • @snowyowl7042
    @snowyowl7042 Год назад +1

    Wow, I'm not used to so many New parts, sure gaskets and rings, but pistons and cylinder. Great instructional video.

  • @csorrows
    @csorrows 4 месяца назад

    When checking the ring gap, you should put an old ring onto the piston the put the top of the piston down into the bore. The piston will stop on the ring and make 100% certain the ring you are measuring is perfectly straight in the bore. You also want it close to the top as a lot of bores are actually a bit tighter at the top.

  • @michaelrowlandhogan9524
    @michaelrowlandhogan9524 7 месяцев назад

    Hey Joe, you amaze me, just the guy I would have working on my bike. Well done again from MIcko in the UK

  • @douglassprague9727
    @douglassprague9727 2 месяца назад +1

    According to the shop manual, the ring with the bevel (1R) should have been put in the second ring groove.

  • @josephperry6822
    @josephperry6822 Год назад +2

    Another job very well done! Good stuff buddy! Keep up the great work!!

  • @JayHutchG
    @JayHutchG 11 месяцев назад

    Good wrenching bud. I'm so glad it all worked out and the smoking stopped. Not sure you needed new pistons tho. Maybe just rings. Was the one oil ring seized? Fortunate the dropped push rod and so far out of time didn't do more damage. Turns out to be a very nice quad. A lot of work yes, but kinda typical for a previous owner without much rebuild experience. Nice work budroe. Great patience.

  • @kevinstorm6009
    @kevinstorm6009 Год назад

    It's probably the loudest 4X4 'hunting' ATV I've ever heard! I'm glad you mentioned it. You're certainly not sneaking up on anything with that monster. LOL

    • @Yolobrohs
      @Yolobrohs Год назад +1

      cheap amazon muffler. i thought she sounded mean but yk i never used it for hunting. more of scarin away the animals lol

  • @thebigguy8306
    @thebigguy8306 Год назад +2

    Nice video, anytime you break down an engine there is always a learning moment, and some Vinny Time

  • @flatlanderoutdoors2549
    @flatlanderoutdoors2549 Месяц назад

    Nice job Joe 🤙🏻 thing sounds like it’s straight piped 😂

  • @quietbrianquiet
    @quietbrianquiet Год назад

    2.9K Thumbs up and when I hit the thumbs up it went to 3K whoo hooo! Great series and for going through all the steps with out throwing money at it with out the diagnosis first. Thanks!

  • @bryonshuttt436
    @bryonshuttt436 Год назад +3

    Why do you use gasket sealer sometimes and grease other times?

    • @GNX157
      @GNX157 Год назад +1

      Something he might have to take off multiple times and be able to reuse the gasket, like the clutch or side covers.

  • @michaelyarmie4858
    @michaelyarmie4858 Год назад +1

    👌 Patience and hard work pay's off.
    It's time for an oil change.

  • @billballerballerbill9884
    @billballerballerbill9884 Год назад +4

    Can't wait to see the end of this one!

  • @reapersdemon9048
    @reapersdemon9048 Год назад +2

    Love the content, brother, but hate cvt all that power goes to waste 🗑

  • @MacRODesign55
    @MacRODesign55 9 месяцев назад

    Exhaust note was much crisper, sounded like it was well tuned and running well.

  • @danielparsons3995
    @danielparsons3995 Год назад +10

    Is it just me or does it seem to be kind slow for being a 700? I used to have a 500 and that thing could go 70/ 80 mph. Maybe the clutch has a adjustment? But still runs awesome 👍

    • @allan9603
      @allan9603 Год назад +2

      @daniel, seems like the ATV is more for work than speed.
      Gear ratio, and the heavy duty racks and body parts make it appear to be for pulling and transporting stuff.
      JMO

    • @danielparsons3995
      @danielparsons3995 Год назад +1

      @@allan9603 ok I understand but I've forgotten to add that I've been on a 800 before and it seemed way faster than the 500 I had, this is the same quad: 600 sportsman but it was 600 turned into a 700. And it seams gutless, the clutch is probably not correctly put on and with everything else on the quad joe worked on I wouldn't be amazed if it's on wrong, joe put tons of money and work onto this quad and it's really only worth 1000 bucks. If no one noticed this was a big loss...

    • @allan9603
      @allan9603 Год назад +1

      @@danielparsons3995 , having owned lawn equipment, farm implements, tractors, combines, ATVs...myself, I can say that there will be times when you take it in the shorts over repairs, no doubt.
      Joe is not only a master at his craft, but if you ever watch him buy these bikes, trikes, ATVs...you will notice that he's quite business savvy as well.
      I'm sure Joe knows the risks, but over the long run from what I've seen, he makes very good decisions.
      Hey, if you think about it, we want all of Joe's toys ready for the bone yard, which means more videos for us!😂😁

    • @jimprojectgoldwing5536
      @jimprojectgoldwing5536 Год назад

      I thought the same, got an 04 700 twin that will go off the top of the speedo at 70mph.

  • @greathornedowl3644
    @greathornedowl3644 Год назад +1

    Great vid, with a rebuild you got it humming along

  • @dzydvl76
    @dzydvl76 7 месяцев назад

    That land is SO WISCONSIN!!!! I'm guessing North woods, I don't want to give cities, just in case.

  • @mikestowe6136
    @mikestowe6136 Год назад +3

    always wonder how many times a machine has took a shit in the middle or all the way across the field and youve had to walk back lol

  • @DaBombDotCom77
    @DaBombDotCom77 Год назад +1

    Joined that FB group thanks for the information wealth.

  • @l.s.tukbigbud7715
    @l.s.tukbigbud7715 Год назад +1

    Love the sound of the rain on the rooftop...✌🤙

  • @averyschwab703
    @averyschwab703 Год назад +1

    when it wouldn't start and you stepped back and stared at it for awhile. i know exactly what you were feeling haha

  • @ep9360
    @ep9360 Год назад

    Fantastic ❤. As well beautiful property. Thanks for the ride.

  • @Stuckin330
    @Stuckin330 Год назад +1

    Do u got the I low gear? That thing should rip in high gear from a dig to top speed . I kno the rev high but that thing should get up to atleast 60 70 pretty quick . U need fine tune them clutches both the primary and secondary an make sure ur belt deflection is on point with a good belt . Theses should rip out the gate pretty snappy an get up to atleast 65 within seconds .

  • @copperaudio9664
    @copperaudio9664 7 месяцев назад

    This one was quite a test. You passed with an "A" Nice work. 😎👍

  • @johnfoldesi6187
    @johnfoldesi6187 Год назад +1

    I loved every part of this video/build!!

  • @bodine2537
    @bodine2537 29 дней назад

    Another good deal you got there, this 1 you had to earn it though as many times as you had to take it apart , I think that’s why the original owner sold it cause he didn’t wanna take it apart again, that loud exhaust pipe would get annoying after a while for me, it kinda sounds like a snow mobile engine lol or a 2 stroke, good job bro

  • @jumpinjojo
    @jumpinjojo Год назад +7

    Coat the inside of the cylinder with oil before you insert the assembled piston.

  • @trickedouttech321
    @trickedouttech321 7 месяцев назад

    That quad sounds like you have to run it wide open almost all the time just to dive around, This is why I love gears give me gears that I can control.

  • @leewaken5059
    @leewaken5059 Год назад +3

    A pair of ring compressors would come in handy here. At this point in the game(several years) why you don't own these tools is odd.
    Nice rebuild.🏁

    • @jerrywilcox9890
      @jerrywilcox9890 Год назад +1

      Don't need them so why get them.

    • @gabrielgalaxygh
      @gabrielgalaxygh Год назад +4

      ​@@jerrywilcox9890you don't need half the tools he has. That's not the point. He doesn't need an impact but it's definitely easier and faster. That's the point of a tool

  • @JoseManuel-lj4dk
    @JoseManuel-lj4dk 3 месяца назад

    I learned something new today about the rings thank you Blessings 🙏🙏🙏

  • @markborecki8387
    @markborecki8387 Год назад +5

    Nothing but problems? On a polaris? You don't say..... 😂. Polaris quads are the worst pieces of junk on the market. You are a courageous man joe

  • @doug42780
    @doug42780 Год назад

    How did u learn so much about working on bikes. I like watching your videos. I learned a little bit from it

  • @charlesscheck6517
    @charlesscheck6517 Год назад +1

    nice job Joe say what is going on with hover craft? ever get it back running?

  • @higg1977
    @higg1977 Год назад

    Good job on that fight. Need a different primary clutch and stock exhaust. That obnoxious metallic grinding wasn't there when you first got it running in first video. Youll get it whipped. I'd be sick of that one too lol. Enjoy the videos. Same thing I do minus the videos .🇺🇸

  • @qtrill6000
    @qtrill6000 Год назад

    Great job! That exhaust is LOUD and that metal rattling has to have something to do with that screw that you found in the clutch I’m guessing

    • @JoshuaJonah
      @JoshuaJonah Год назад

      That's a screw that holds the rubber seal on the back cover. Not part of the clutch.

  • @ArchwayPerformance
    @ArchwayPerformance Год назад

    Awesome job, I’m thinking it’s going to need a clutch kit as it’s blowing through the secondary almost immediately.

    • @Yolobrohs
      @Yolobrohs Год назад

      primary. secondary starts opening at about 15 mph im the old owner so ik it wasn’t a fast machine about 60 if your lucky

  • @semtech30
    @semtech30 11 месяцев назад

    Back pressure is important. May wan't to put baffles back in that rig. Clutch rattle is a bit wierd. Big job.

  • @drpritchett91ify
    @drpritchett91ify Год назад +2

    I'd like to know why it's so loud and high pitched? I've never heard a 700cc engine sound like that...🤔

  • @shaunkilgannon1693
    @shaunkilgannon1693 6 месяцев назад

    I know nothing about engines but love your videos

  • @MegaGoogoohead
    @MegaGoogoohead Год назад

    Cool dude you're a good mechanic to have caught some of the mistakes the last guy did the rings was a good find!

  • @davesplace1307
    @davesplace1307 Год назад +2

    The top rings on the piston are always the tightest

    • @ni_wink84
      @ni_wink84 Год назад

      Yeah maybe with chinezium parts like he uses, but quality rings should be the same size unless file to fit

  • @martymcmannis6581
    @martymcmannis6581 7 месяцев назад

    Every time you put rings on a piston, you always check the ring gap. Not have I've seen them being to big or small. Did you ever have any that was to big or small of a ring gap? Nice job on this one.

  • @kirkslayden834
    @kirkslayden834 Год назад

    Perfect finally I'm curious how much money you spent regardless you got a pretty good deal and a little bit of work

  • @MR-puffnstuff
    @MR-puffnstuff Год назад +3

    You can do it!! You can do it all the way to a positive bank account quick....

  • @MrAdrenalin17
    @MrAdrenalin17 Год назад

    Love it, deff look into a snow plow set up for it tho

  • @michaelhintz6187
    @michaelhintz6187 Год назад +3

    Folks, leave your equipment stock. If you want better performance buy a higher level machine. Good work

  • @passenger6735
    @passenger6735 Год назад +1

    A very enjoyable series. Thanks

  • @JanneRanta
    @JanneRanta Год назад +5

    That sad lonely hover craft sitting neglected in the field 😟

  • @kirkslayden834
    @kirkslayden834 Год назад

    My TRX 400 2002 Honda it's a race bike single cylinder five valves to exhaust but it's loud and it was definitely made for racing

  • @rm25088
    @rm25088 Год назад +2

    Polaris. Bust out another thousand. Oh wait, that's boat. New owner is going to have to buy an expensive clutch soon.

  • @tuberNunya
    @tuberNunya 9 месяцев назад

    I always oil the cylinder first. Just helps.

  • @alexanderbmx
    @alexanderbmx Год назад +1

    This man can fix anything..

  • @thoringuidry
    @thoringuidry Год назад +2

    Job well done mate!

  • @seansysig
    @seansysig Год назад +1

    That clutch is very noisy metal on metal. The muffler is awful. Are the exhaust manifolds tight?

  • @MusicSensations1971
    @MusicSensations1971 Год назад +1

    Holy spaghetti will you look at all those wires 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @robertward5057
    @robertward5057 7 месяцев назад

    Just a recommendation I'm an x car engine mechanic cars are governed by side sitting behind steering wheel so dri ers side is left passenger side is right so atv's motorcycles should be the same. Also I recommend putting oil rings on wristpin and the others on skirt.

  • @markbrynteson5141
    @markbrynteson5141 Год назад +1

    Excellent job as always!

  • @KensSmallEngineRepair
    @KensSmallEngineRepair Год назад +1

    You use gasket maker tubes like me, punch a new hole each time you use it. lol

  • @clipoydharrison9863
    @clipoydharrison9863 Год назад +2

    It does not seem to be picking up speed very well,is the clutch slipping?

  • @george31380
    @george31380 Год назад +1

    It could also be the wrong belt is being ran to wide or skinny could affect speed and rpm.

  • @peteraitken6494
    @peteraitken6494 Год назад +1

    Good job joe another one of the list lol sounds great 👍👌🔧🔧🔧🔧❤️

  • @mrnetwurm
    @mrnetwurm Год назад +3

    The clutch springs on that aftermarket clutch are too heavy. Causing it to hit the rev limiter before the clutch has a chance to start squeezing the shivs