Sturdy Studebaker Trucks
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- Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
- Studebaker’s first pickup truck was the 1913 Flanders 20 and by 1937 Studebaker offered a full line of trucks, from light half-tonners to beefy 5-ton workers. Steve discovers a pair of cool Studebaker trucks, one has a plastic grille!
Steve is a walking automobile encyclopedia.
I am only an 82 year old Studebaker man most of my years even owned a Trucking Company with Studebaker Trucks.
Walking with a phone in his pocket with data. 😂
Awesome lesson on Studebaker trucks! Wow, a plastic grill in 57! Learn something new everyday! You got a new subscriber! Thank you for this video!
Those Studebaker V8s are bullet proof! Forged crank and rods. Gear driven cam, solid lifters, wide bearing surfaces and 6 headbolts around each piston. In a car I prefer the 259. The larger 289 makes more torque but seems reluctant to rev past 5000rpm. I don't know how a large truck can even move with the little flat 6. Awsome find!
6 cyl engines were actually quite common in large trucks and busses in those days... and yes, many of them were slower than cold molasses.... but that's just the way things were at that time.
They had good torque and used gearing to make up for it but they were still pretty slow. Expectations weren't what they are today either.
The very 1st class 8 highway tractor I ever drove back in the early 70s had an engine with only about 60% of the power you can get in a modern 3/4 ton and yes... most of the time I was down into low range climbing even modest hills. But loads weren't as big in those days, though. I was only pulling 40' trailers, not the 53 footers of today.
While Studebaker was well known at the time, for their history of building excellent farm wagons and freight wagons back to the mid-1800s, they also were a major supplier of military trucks during WWII. We had a couple of the Army surplus "deuce & a half" trucks (essentially a flatbed freight hauler) with 3 axles, 10 wheels, and 10 wheel-drive. We got ours from Army surplus in the early 1950s to use on our homestead outside of Anchorage, Alaska. They had the 6 cylinder engine with a floor mounted gearbox and were geared really low (very slow transportation!!) but could climb nearly any hill it came to. Studebaker engines were in these trucks and many smaller machines, such as the weasel. That was like one of today's ATVs with 4 or 6 wheels and made for off road use. They were very capable little machines.
My grandfather had a 1949 half-ton pickup with a V-8. I learned to drive in that vehicle.
That six is likely the 245 ci Commander, basically the same as the larger engines used in their passenger cars. The half ton came standard with the smaller 170 ci Champion six, but by 1951, the Commander engine was available as an option. You could also get Bendix electric overdrive added onto the 3-speed transmission, making the truck more suitable for highway use. The 245 was a rugged engine with good torque and a great choice for that era truck. Although Studebaker was forced to continue with the platform far too long, These "R-Series" trucks were ahead of their time when introduced, with running boards hidden behind the doors, and almost slab-sided cargo beds which also had metal floors.
Thank you for taking the time to look at Studebaker trucks.
The first one you looked at is a 3/4-ton a 1950-1953 2R11. While the column shift transmission is a 3-speed it has overdrive (you can see the lockout knob on the dash). That's the bigger Commender 245 six not the little 185 Champion that I think you thought it was. That was good for 102 HP so not bad in the day almost as good as a Ford V8.
Champ pickups used a Lark styled cab and did not come out until 1960.
The second truck to looked at is a 1962 1-1/2 ton. You might think it was a 4-ton but no that's what Studebaker used for 1-1/2 ton. The data plate shows it as a 7E28 which is V8 either a 259 or 289 fitted as you noted with a 5-speed. In fact I would love to have that overdrive for one of my 1-1/2 or 2-tons it's rather rare.
They make trucks to the end in South Bend and restarted trucks even before the Avanti II to complete an Army contact. AM General took over the Chippewa Ave. truck plant and Hummers were made there.
The first Studebaker V8 was a 1951 as you stated but a 232, the first truck V8's in 1954 were 224, then 259 and 289 plus the diesels in 1963 and 64.
I always liked the Hudson, and Stude trucks. Very unique looking trucks.
My dad had a '56 1/2 ton with a 259 V8 3 speed O/D in that same light blue - we called it the Stupidbaker. You could do anything with that truck and it would just keep going.
Someone in my area a few years ago used to drive a hot rodded studie truck, likely a half ton, and it really looked good, the very rounded cab roof and rear fenders just had a natural custom look, a nice change from the ordinary.
I had a hotrodded orange studebaker truck with a small block Mopar
Steve-the rear end in that 54 1 ton was NOT a worm gear rear end,it was the famous "Timkin" rear end that Ford also used. You needed 2 of the left side housings to build an early Halibrand or Franklin quick change rear end. The ring and pinion in that rear end is still the type used in even the newest Winters quick change!!
Worm drives don't like to transfer power from the ring gear to the worm gear.
If this had a worm gear rear end, it would come to a skidding halt every time the driver let up on the gas pedal.
We always called those bead rings jesus rings because if it blew off when mounting a tire you would be meeting him lol
Studebaker made some good looking vehicles
Best thing about winter junkyard in no Hornets
Amen!
+1. In the S. Texas junkyards we poked around in during the 70s the Wasps and Rattlesnakes kept you on your toes FOR SURE
I've done old school split rims when I worked at a tire shop, really they aren't that bad, you just need a 5 ft locking air chuck, or a steel cage to put it in when your airing them up. Also seen people slide them under a bucket of a loader, or under the back bumper of a truck, just anything to make sure your not leaning over it when you air it up. Never had a problem myself, but not everyone should be allowed to have tools
I drove a 63 studebaker truck as a kid in 1983 as the transmission shop I swept up at after school had a restored one for running errands.
My Grandad had a Studebaker truck back in the 50's & 60's when I was a kid. One of my cousins still has it.
Thanks Steve. I have a 55 Studebaker 1/2 ton. Keep up the good research, God Bless you!!!!
We're all pulling for you Steve. Hope to see you soon
Really happy to see your Studebaker truck video! I was into Studebakers for a long time, and my first brand new car was a '61 Lark convertible. The engines were just about indestructible, as mentioned before. The point here is that the engine shown in the 4 ton would be a replacement, easily identified by the two bolt yellow valve covers (61-63) and the late intake manifold (63 up). When it was fully milled on top, they uses an AFB 4 barrel.
By the way, the only difference between the 259 and the 289 for practical purposes was the crank and the pistons. Most of the 289 pistons had a dished top, but the high performance engines used a flat top. The compression ratio then became 10.25 to 10.5:1.
I have a lot of memories of hot rodding Studebakers in the sixties when parts were relatively cheap, and some really good stuff was available, not necessarily out of the parts book!
Thank you Steve, Get well soon
Studebaker trucks were always one of my favorites. Good stuff!!!
Awesome Steve! I amazed the plastic grill survived intact all these years. Especially on a workhorse of a truck.
We want more on the REM-Charger Steve! Can’t wait for more in that series.
My buddy had a Studebaker 48 pickup. The metal on that truck was probably 4 times the thickness of todays' cars and trucks, or more. That had some heavy duty body steel.
Every time I watch one of these, I get the urge to do a Jay Leno type of restoration on each of these vehicles. Money no object, just make it shiny and new again. But I guess only Leno has that luxury. He's going to have one heck of car collection to pass on to a museum someday.
Steve, your car knowledge is off the chart. I really enjoy your videos and how you give history lessons. Greatly appreciate your efforts
I know a guy with a Studebaker stage coach. Thing is super cool. They were around for a long time.
Somewhere there is a guy looking for that grill that is flinching every time you bounce that grill on the ground.
I really enjoyed this! My grandfather built his wrecker out of a ‘60 Studebaker 1 ton with a PTO in it. Used it for 25 years of towing.
Love those Studebaker trucks
love those old truck, love the 40s models
I would love more videos about trucks, van, and commercial vehicles
I would have never guessed that Stud would have a plastic grill
MORE STUDEBAKERS! Why? I don't know! But I never get tired of the homely old things
One of my uncles had one when I was a kid. Would love to have one.
A few wrong things here…. The grilles are in fact fiberglass. The first truck is a 49-53 with a 54-56 grille. It’s also a 3/4 ton not a 1 ton. 1 tons would have 5 lug wheels while the 3/4 ton was 6. The big truck is a 1.5-2 ton 61 or 62. They do look the same from 57-64 but a few details tells me that it’s a 61 or 62. Also, Budd did not make their cabs…. They made the stampings for their sheet metal, but the cabs were all made in house in South Bend. There is probably more im forgetting.
We had a Studebaker dealer 3 miles away in a little rural town. It was a repair shop with 2 gas pumps out front. There is still a paint stripe on the floor where the 1 new car was displayed. Thanks for the Studebaker tutorial, Steve.
Very COOL !🙂
I got a 1962 champ 1/2 ton and drive it daily .. it’s got a 259 with a 48 Chevy 4 speed in it .. and when Studebaker went out of business in south bend .. dad bought a new engine in 1970sh from Newman and Altman in south bend .. and they old champ still runs good today
Get well Steve..!!!
Very cool trucks, I would love something like that 4 ton model.
Love you Steve hope things improve soon. 😎
Years ago I worked for a lumberyard in Ks. that had been in operation since the 20's. They had an identical truck that had been purchased new. It was red and white with a red interior. It had a five speed on a single speed axle. The little V8 ran really well and would go down the road at 55 or 60 easy enough. It had straight pipes that ran the entire length of the 16 ft. bed. Old girl sounded wicked.
Back in the late seventies,when I was like 18, I put a '66 Buick wildcat 401 and tranny in a '49 Studebaker truck. Because it seemed like a good idea at the time,
I have a motor and tranny,
l have a truck that needs a motor and tranny. I didn't know any better, yet. Even with the M/50/15 tires on the back I couldn't get it to hook up. I ended up pouring a three inches of concrete in the bed just to get traction. Once it got traction it moved on down the road rather nicely. Almost as much fun as the Chevy LUV truck with the 327 and 4-speed in it.
"The junkyard is a classroom". I love that statement. I always have something old-ish in my school shop for students to work on. I tell them like my boss told me decades ago..."if it weren't messed up then it wouldn't be here". That's motivation to work there!
Sounds like your classroom is Cool. Lucky students
@@scoobyroorogers Half of them still would rather play on the internet.
@@haroldstrickland8416 That's too bad. It's always a great feeling being able to tear apart something mechanical find the problem and put it all back together to " live another day".
It would seem
that quite a few kids today have no desire to even rebuild or customize something mechanical.
@@scoobyroorogers Unfortunately the current generation has been surrounded by "offshore" junk that cannot be serviced or rebuilt; you scrap the junk (which most of it was to begin with) and replace with another new piece of junk. The days of ripping an engine down and re-ringing are now past. Thankfully there are a few that certainly don't mind getting their hands dirty and doing some repair work. Maybe they'll continue to carry the motorhead's torch.
Hey mate Nick from Australia here please do a review on the el camino from the Studerbaker video enjoy your channel thanks
Hi Nick, THANKS FOR WATCHING and WRITING. That wacky finned El Camino in the background is indeed featured in another of my videos. I'm embarrassed to say I don't recall the exact name of the video but we shot it last summer. If you snoop about in the Playlist Menue (or whatever it is called), you'll see a freeze-frame or thumb nail of it. Hint...the builder painted "Night Wing" on the body! That reminds me of a certain Australian franchise called Mad Max and the battle cry: REMEMBER THE NIGHT RIDERRRRRRRRRR!!!! Thanks again for writing, Steve Magnante
@@SteveMagnante hey mate the el camino from from the clip was a 80s elky it was from the Studerbaker truck clip and if your into Australia muscle cars I've got a 72 Falcon coupe. If you would like to come to Australia and do a clip on it your welcome i read a lot of Carcraft and Hotrod mags back in the day and have a 2 tough Camaros have owned Mopar and Ford muscle as well
And what a great classroom it is!
All because it has a GREAT teacher named Steve.
I learn something new every video from "the walking encyclopedia and great Professor Steve Mags." Wish i had an auto shop teacher as knowledgeable as you.
"They can split and send you through the roof", LOL
Felt a bit nostalgic about that 90s Town&Country in the background tbh
FYI, Studebaker Champ trucks weren't made until the 60s.
Pulled a '54 half ton out of a barn in '74-'75 and dropped a 302 automatic in it. Yes we did geometry, fabricated what needed to be built, and what we built was done so it'd last. We did dozens and dozens of mid '30s through mid '50s cars and pickups, most GM and they all received a FOMOCO powerplant pulled from low miles wrecked cars at junkyards. Loved that hobby!
Now that's very Cool !! Thanks Ray56
Your one tough mother , snow on the ground walking around in a tee- shirt !
I always look forward for Steve's video's I feel that I'm learning from his knowledge in virtually in every car made!
I was 5 years old in 1954 and my parents moved from Lovelock, NV (east of Reno) back to their hometown in Utah. They bought a 1953 Studebaker truck which they used to move us (parents and 3 kids) to Utah. My mom called the color of it "baby shit brown". We were only there for a while and they traded it for a 1955 Chevy sedan.
Mate... Thank you so much for a great channel 🙏
Remember during WWII. The US. Military sent 100 's of Studebaker trucks to the Soviet Union. Many were fitted for the 122 mm. Rocket battery. These trucks were able to endure the harsh winter conditions of the Eastern Front. I have pictures of those trucks serving in the Soviet Army.
My good friend duane has a 53 starlight coupe he’s had since 63, he’s got an avanti with an r1, a 54 1 ton truck with an r1 avanti motor, and he’s building a 50 3/4 ton custom truck with the flathead 6
Sorry to nit pick, but the first truck was a 54 three quarter ton. The second truck was a 1962 ton and a half. And those grilles do have fiberglass in 'em.
Studebaker also never made a 5 ton truck. That E28 was newer than a 57; it had the earlier complete gauges used again in the 60s trucks and the two bolt valve covers.1st Stude V8 was a 232ci. Sorry Steve.
Hey, look at that ute in the background of the 57 Studie, it has fins from what looks like a 59 Buick Invicta or Caddie grafted on to it! Pretty wild stuff. Love the background on Studebaker, especially when put into context with Ford.
Steve did a video on that one. I believe it's called Nightwing.
I know this is a little old but I think it is the first time I’ve seen anything on the old Studebaker trucks. I learned too drive in one, a 1950 it was our ranch truck and could barely get out of its own way. The good thing was it was tough as nails and had a incredibly low first gear. The fenders would split from the rough trails we drove on but we had plenty of bailing wire to use as welding material to repair it! Brings back great memories. Thank you!
Stever you are the one that makes a junk yard a classroom. Thank you from one old (got you by 10 years) gear head to another.
Actually Studebaker started building wagons in 1839 and it was called the Conestoga
Very informative thank you! I learned a lot more than I knew about my 2r5 in this one!
I was born in 1957 and had no idea plastic grills were made for Studebaker trucks.
Fired Up?
@@DanEBoyd no same name
Im blown away by learning of Studebakers early usage of Plastic Grills.. that is just plain awesome ♥️😊😉
Love these videos just with they where longer, there is so much cool and interesting stuff in these yards you find I could spend days at them.
Steve, great and informative video, as always if not for you and your efforts, all of these "not hot rods" would just fade into obscurity. Many thanks!
Love the amount of info you retain with this stuff! Always learning from you. @5:30 there's a Winnebago LeSharo RV in the background. FWD 4-cylinder by Renault. Really odd machines that couldn't get out of their own way 😄
Keep on crawling!
Great Video Steve I love the old oddball trucks like Studebaker and International
One of my old Gravely walk-behind Model L's had a badge on its gas tank proclaiming "Division of Studebaker". Apparently the US donated so many studie trucks to the war effort that the Soviet trucks post 1945 share their look. As the company was sliding out of business (railroad corporations would do a similar thing, combining losing companies together to stave off the inevitable), employees took advantage, punching friends in for work shifts then going off to the corners of the factory where they could play cards unseen. It is claimed Studebaker was one of the easiest "orphan cars" to restore decades later because enough parts had been stolen and those employees were shuffling off their mortal coil by that time and the stashes were getting unloaded at estate sales.
Studebaker's first V8 was 232 cubic inches, and a smaller 224 cubic inch V8 was used as a base V8 in 1955 only.
The rear end in the one ton is a Timken rear. They aren't worm drive, they have a conventional ring and pinion. Timken rears were also used in Willys trucks and some heavy Fords.
The wheels are lock ring, often confused with split rims. Lock ring wheels are perfectly safe to use as long as the components are in good shape and assembled properly.
That’s an interesting El Camino behind you.
I love any of these old Studes. Thank You Steve
Always liked those Studebaker trucks had great looking sheetmetal and tough drivelines
Friend in high school used to drive a late 40s "Backer" 1 ton pickup. Cab was narrow, bucket seats out of some 60s or 70s car fit tight in the middle. Three of us, (just skinny kids then) in the cab wasn't fun and he'd never go over 45 in the damned thing because his dad told him not to. No idea where we going, why we were going or how far it was but I'll never forget that ride.
Nice El camino
Growing up in central Pennsylvania my Grandfather had 2 Studebaker trucks both 4-5 ton 1 was a flatbed which did the majority of the farm work, the other was a dump truck and believe it or not had a 2 speed rear axle.
What a fantastic junk yard
Hope you are doing better every day
I had one like this for a while. It had spent time as a sales or install truck for Dandy Scientific Operators garage door openers. Half ton. Mine had a radio, too. I thought it was a big deal but cheap Studebaker just re-used a car radio in these so they're not worth a lot like a GM or Ford truck radio.
Would love to take the cab, engine and grille from that '57 and round up doors and fenders and run it on a half ton chassis.
I read somewhere the Champ pickup, that got the half a Lark body for a cab, they used leftover Champion badges on and just broke off the extra letters.
That 57 is a 1&1/2 or 2 ton. It is not a 4 or 5 ton. The 2 and 2&1/2 ton usually has a 2 speed rear axle. Anything bigger than a 2&1/2 ton would most likely have air brakes. The first truck was most likely a 3/4 ton. A one ton with a flatbed would have had duels and one tons came with four speeds, not three on the tree. Studebaker built their trucks heavier duty than the competition. I grew up with Studebakers. My uncle had a wrecking yard devoted primarily to Studebakers.
I’ll bet someone needs that grille.
The WW2 American Army by and large made do with GM trucks (and a few Dodges with Plymouth flathead 6's) How MOPARS got the reputation of being the favorite cars of PSYCHOPATHS was the Marines used Dodge 4x4 and 6x6s in volcanic sand pacific hellholes. The stuff jammed/wore out guns, radios, airplanes - even your ballsack and inner thighs ! But the DODGES kept running and seemingly every surviving Marine became a MOPAR loyalist for life. For sure in the late 40s on up into the 50s if a punk kid ran into the back of a Mopar and talked smack to it's driver - he stood a good chance of an encounter with a man well trained in hand-to-hand and also hardened to the suffering and yea- even death of an attacker, Happened more than once.
But - generous USA gave it's very finest trucks to the USSR who were reeling under the German onslaught. A HALF MILLION TRUCKS we gave Russia. Tens of thousands were Chevrolets and as late as 2005 Putin paid his respects to a stone monument of an American Truck in Moscow to commemorate the life-saving gifts.
The Creme-de-la-Creme were the 200,000 Studebaker 6x6 Five Tonners with Hercules engines. They were so famous and beloved when the chips were down in muddy frozen Russia that the Russian word "Studer" now means a giant, a juggernaut - "an unstoppable vehicle".
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You are welcome. Enjoy !
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How are you doing Mags? Hopefully much better. Thinking of ya every morning. Cheers 🇨🇦
We have a 59 grain truck, 6.50 2 speed rear end , converted to a 350 sbc, it gets up to 55 super quick and tops out soon after lol
That El Camino behind you is pretty cool……..
Good information
When I was a kid growing up outside of Englewood Ohio, there was an old, but still very much open for business, Texaco station in town which had a late '50s Studee for their shop truck. It was a pick-up, but as I remember, it had 8 lug wheels. The other thing it had was a pair of 2" - 2.25" exhaust stacks behind the cab - and with rain caps! It was a somewhat chalky looking dark red, with the grill like the one you showed - which I would've never guessed was plastic.
Budd is also known for producing the cabs for the Ford C series cabover, and also sold those cabs to Mack, and I believe, FWD. Those batwings on that '73-'77 El Camino or Sprint...🤣
Thank you, I really liked your video.
Great video, so much history at that yard
i have a 1961 17 foot runabout boat made of royalite. they had no idea what it would do over the long run = lots of redundant and heavy wood framing on inside ha ha
And this stuff was hard to blow up too I tried and couldn't actually blow anything tranny motor rear in some of these old relics but knowing it was getting scraped lol rip America great video Steve
That's a Bostrom Viking T-Bar Seat there is no air in that seat. You can crake the tension up and down with a hand to the right rear of the butt cushion to adjust the tension for your weight..
The lever on the bottom left is to move the seat forward and aft for your leg lenght,
My parents had studebakers 55 president, look fast just sitting there long live the king of cars 😎
Bostrom air seats are still in every Mack truck to this day.
That would make a sick rat rod design
I would love to have both of those trucks. Would fit right in with my 54 3/4 ton and 55 1/2 224cuin V8. Plus my favorite 57 TRANSTAR Deluxe 1/2 ton.
They continued making deuce and a half’s under studebaker/REO until about 1970