South Africa Rugby's Greatest XV: Ultimate Picks!
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South Africa Rugby's Greatest XV: Ultimate Picks!
Join us as we celebrate the legends who have shaped South African rugby history. Discover the top players who have earned their place in the ultimate South African rugby team. From iconic captains to unstoppable try-scorers, this video covers the best of the best in South African rugby.
00:14 - Os du Randt
00:40 - Malcolm Marx
01:10 - Frans Malherbe
01:34 - Eben Etzebeth
02:07 - Victor Matfield
02:34 - Siya Kolisi
03:27 - Pieter Steph du Toit
04:01 - Duane Vermeulen
04:35 - Fourie du Preez
05:04 - Handre Pollard
05:34 - Bryan Habana
06:11 - Jean de Villiers
06:37 - Lukhanyo Am
07:06 - Cheslin Kolbe
07:40 - Andre Joubert
08:20 - Team sheet
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Anyone you think we've missed? 👇
Maybe Schalk Burger, but Siya is just as good
@@sl1cc1x40 Jacque Fourie @13 not that I have anything against Am(I"m Black)
Beastttttt😮😮 tendai
Jip Jacques Fourie or Danie Gerber
Burger
6.Schalk Burger, 13 Danie Gerber
10. Naas Botha
9. Joost
Now we talking!!!!!!!
Joost: 89 games, 38 tries. Try scoring ratio of 42%. Show me another scrumhalf with those stats.
Gerber: 24 tests. 19 tries. Try scoring ratio of ≈80%. Show me ANYONE who has that stat. And if you can find one, I bet you that they weren't playing outside centre.
No outside centre in the game of rugby is close to 80% . To put things in context. At his peak. on a rugby field. I dont know who was. Quicker Habanna or Danie Gerber. Would have close over a lenght of a rugby field
Siya at nr 6? Sorry bro, he is not better than Schalk Burger
Or Rueben Kruger, or Rassie. A can think of a few ahead of Siya. But I’d rather Suya over Francois. Both great leaders though
Schalk Burger it is.
Francois Pienaar.
Heinrich Brussouw, so good, the rules were changed because of him 🙂
Disagree. Siya edges it due to leadership qualities and how he compliments the other chosen backrowers who are irreplaceable
I have to say as a non-expert from the US it seems there is maybe recency bias? All players seem to be from the last 20 years on the list, and I know South Africa has a long history in the game, and they must have had all timers in the old days as well... But again I could very well be wrong, and it's not like I can question it or give you an alternative name for any of the chosen players 🤣
Fair point, well made. I largely agree with the list, but the most glaring omission is Danie Gerber (1988-1992) who should have taken outside center. Joost van de Westhuzen (1993-2003) could just as easily have taken the scrumhalf position. I'm also not convinced by Siya Kolisi's inclusion (although his captaincy is the most significant). Finally, I believe that our current fullback, Damian Willemse, is more talented than Andre Joubert.
No way. Anything before 20 years ago is nowhere the modern level.
@@stephenpaul7499Fourie vs Joost could go either way. Daniel Gerber only played 24 games, so it’s tough to include him. Fullback has to be Percy Montgomery, Willie would be the second choice.
@jameswyatt4443 yes Percy doesn't get enough credit. Amazing goal kicker too. Probably just below morne steyn in that regard. I didn't know that fact about danie Gerber, interesting.
The problem is during apartheid witch was around 30 years ago there were sactions againt south africa so we couldn't play against the best internatinal teams thus the level of competition was not that high in that time plus modern rugby players are on average more skilled and better athletes
13 had to be Jacques Fourie
For modern times yes; of all time it’s Daniel
Nah AM better than J fourie, but i agree burger was better than Siya, i would still sneak Bakkies in there
@@wernertukker5420 Pfffft! JF would tie that oupa in a knot.
@@chrisnaude2929 how old are you?
@@wernertukker5420 Doesn't matter. Doesn't change a thing.
These 15 players mentioned here
are from the professional era - post 1996.
Where's schalk burger bro?
I was 51% Siya 49% Schalk! So hard to pick! All Blacks XV vid drops soon....lets see what people think of that one 🤣
It's difficult to imagine a Springbok greatest team without Frans Steyn included, also Schalk Burger was an absolute legend at 6, but It is very difficult to pick only 15 when there are SO many greats to choose from.
I know, it was pretty hard to choose this list but I gave it a go! 😅
@@rugbybuzz nicley done
Not a bad representation of the last 20 odd years but calling it "all time" is a bit of a stretch. Try again.
@@jaconieuwoudt717 everyone has an opinion buddy! Who makes your XV?
@@rugbybuzz Danie Gerber not making a greatest of all time is ludicrous. Unfortunately, he was playing during isolation so very limited international games, but I think he is widely considered not only the best center of SA but one of the best to ever play the game. Joost instead of Fourie Du Preez, Naas Botha (Arguable - Probable the best kicker in the game ever) instead of Handre Pollard. Wings, with the likes of Ray Mord, Carel Duplessis. Forwards....I don't know, lots of disputes over there. Frik Du Preez was a lock that kicked a drop goal, kicked a conversion and scored a try in the same match. None of your locks could come close to claiming that.
Best in last 20 year...still debatable, but more accurate. Best of all time....hmmm not.
Is an impossible task to select the XV greatest springboks of all time too many fantastic players, the same is true for the All Blacks....GO BOKKE!
My All Blacks one drops in a few days...let's see what you think 👀
@@rugbybuzz just make sure you have Christian Cullen there mate!
@@gerryharvey2237 you might be in for a shock there 👀😂
@@rugbybuzz c'mon mate no Cullen???? list isn't out yet and there is controversy already 😆
@@gerryharvey2237 There was one guy I just couldn't leave out...all shall be revealed soon! 👀
Siya Kolisi is an openside flanker and Du Toit is Blindside. The numbers are the opposite in SA
Bakkies, juan smith schalk and danie gerber
Carel du Plessis, Danie Gerber, Mannetjies Roux, HO de Villiers, Naas Botha, Frik du Preez, Uli Scmidt. from a different era and different regime😮
Amateurs. You can’t put anyone who didn’t play professionally. Come on. And none of those guys played many games.
@@jameswyatt4443 unfortunately.
I had the majority spot on with you mate except for the following.
1 Tendai Beast
6 Schalk burger
8 pierre spies
10 Morne Steyn
13 jaque Fourie
15 Percy Montgomery
So hard to pick this! Everyone has an opinion! Some people need to chill in the comments 🤣
@@rugbybuzz South Africans get extremely butt hurt for some reason, and I’m South African, can’t please all of the people all of the time 😂😂
@@cjogden8385 haha I know! I've got an AllBlacks XV dropping ina. few days - let's see how that goes down 👀
@@rugbybuzz good luck mate sure to be a ton of arguments there too😂😂 Richie mccaw as captain though 😉😂
Irishman here. Like to say pretty good. Joist Van Der Westhuisen might be my 9, Danie Gerber at 12 but all in all pretty good. Glad Siya got picked.
As a Saffa, I approve this message!
Hard to leave Schalk Burger and Jacques Fourie out of the equation too
The fact you put Eben in, not sure how much rugby history you've watched😂😂
Hang on hang on...you wouldn't have Eben in? 👀 Who instead?
This list is impossible to choose and to please everyone with your choice too! Every player you named is an amazing player and there are so many more amazing players to choose from in the same positions. At the end of the day it comes day to who the supporter favours.
A great list of players who in their peaks will win a WRC hands down!!!
@@stuartjordan9539 I gave it a good go! All blacks XV dropping on Wednesday 👀
Just Danie Gerber, Frik du Preez, Breyton Paulse, Percy Montgomery, Damian Willemse, Carel du Plessis, Naas Botha etc...
11 just had to be cheslin kolbe
Danie Gerber???
Beast, Ollie, Joost, Bakkies, Gysie Pienaar, just to mention a few
No Reuben Kruger,Mark Andrews,Danie Gerber?
Wow! nice video
Great team but I'd have Percy Montgomery at 15 and Joost at 9 . I know people may say there is recency bias here but the fact is most of your selections are double world cup winners (which happened recently) so it's hard to disagree with this list. This team would destroy every team that has ever existed!
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bro gio aplon and fras Steyn
Percy was a much better fullback than Juba. Andre Joubert could not kick to posts under pressure, and did not have the speed and effectiveness of Percy.
Absolutely. Not even close.
Then believe it or not. Would be tough to choose between Andre Venter and Peter Steph
IMO Honorable mentions: John Smit, Bismarck Du Plessis, Bakkies Botha, Schulk Burger, Jacques Fourie, Jesse Kriel. Outside of that, I totally agree.
Du Toit is a blinside flanker and Kolisi openside flanker
No Percy Montgomery?
Siya Kolisi is an open side flanker. SA uses 6 an 7 diufferently
So many greats left out.
Impossible to pick a all time team. Rather say my best from the last 10/20years.
Danie Gerber.
Nass Botha.
Etc etc.
You should try and make one with rugby legends
Got more than half of the team wrong
Everyone has an opinion buddy! Who makes your team? All Blacks XV vid drops soon....lets see what people think of that one 🤣
Definitely not half. You judge list like thisnon glaring errors. Only one is maybe Siya. Their have been far better flanks
Ja, and so there are indeed difference of opinions and this is one position only, what about other positions?
Honestly not a bad list
My main changes would be
Burger 6 then either Matfield or JDV captain
13 Fourie or Gerber
15 Willie or Percy
Quite a lot of overlap then! Great Picks!
I think this author only started watching rugby a few years ago. In my opinion the Boks from the eighties were the best era.
Naas, Carel du Plessis, Ray Mordt and Danie Gerber will make my honour list.
I would agree that Habana is probably better but only marginally so. Cheslin is amazing but Mordt was such a beast
Yes Jooste at 9 and Andre Joubert at 15
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Nice team. All but 15 is correct. Should, for sure be Frans Steyn, He's the best ever Bok. 2 world cups, 2 Lions series, French championships and the list goes on. He had flair and could kick better than most of the GOATs.
Pretty happy you agree with all but 1 position! Very valid shout at 15! It's pretty hard to choose from all the unreal BOKS!
Joost
Pollard
Habana
Devilliers
Kriel
Kolbe
Montgomery
Os du Randt
Bismarck du Plessis
Beast
Eben
Bakkies
Schalk
Francois Pienaar or Steph
Dwayne or Spies
what about Joost at 9?
I agree with the team, except for 13 and 6 where I believe Danie Gerber would have been a better choice - he has incredible speed of a wing and the power of Lomu to push through tackles. At his best Am is brilliant but Jesse Kriel may have the edge right now. And let’s not forget Marius Joubert and Jacques Fourie, both brilliat players.
No. 6 is Schalk Burger where he won IRB breakthrough - and IRB Player of the Year. Only choice.
Wrong at 6, 9, 10, 12, 13 and 14. Beast Mtwirara should be in there. Then Schalk Burger, Joost van der Westhuizen, Naas Botha, Michael de Plessis, Danie Gerber and Ray Mordt.
Rugby only became professional in 1995. You cant include non professionals, they’re nowhere near the current players.
Beast will even admit that he is nowhere near to Os. Os is the best loosehead to have played the game. His scrummaging would have destroyed Beast plus he was incredible around the park. Joost and FDP are equal. Personally like FDP more for his rugby IQ
@@jameswyatt4443
Danie Gerber looked like a modern professional player but in amateur times. He was a freak. I remember him playing in his 40s and made fully pros look like shite. Rightly one of the best players ever
@@seanschoeman247 Not a chance. Beast destroys Os.
@@seanschoeman247Beast could definitly go down on tight head and i think he's better than fransie , trust me when i say that as a prop who has played on both sides the miner changes in technique wouldn't make that big a diffrence at scrum time
Where is 6 Jan Ellis Heinrich Brissouw, Rob Louw, To San Strauss 8 Morne du Plessis 9 Dawie De Villiers, Robert du Preez. 10 Naas Botha. 11 Ray Mordt 12 & 13 Daniel Gerber, Mannetjies Roux, Jacques Fourie, ext. 14 Carel du Plessis 15 H O de Villiers Gysie Pienaar,. Percy Montgomery and many more what you choose
Couldn't have all of them in there! 😢
it would add a fair amount of gravitas to your picks if you pronounced their names correctly at least
And Joost definately our best scrumhalf. After Du Pont Gareth Edwards Joost the greatest scrumhalf ever of all nations
Lets see what happens at DHL
Danie Gerber Naas Bother
Joost van der Westhuizen must be the best scrumhalf SA ever produced. I agree with another commenter that Danie Gerber was the best outside centre in the world, never mind SA. There were many greats. Let’s not forget Uli Schmidt at hooker, Karel du Plessis at wing. And Naas Botha, why does he not even get a mention? He was the greatest flyhalf the world ever had. Subjective, I know, and also depends on your age, I guess. Go Bokke!
Just my 2cents:
1. Os
2. Marx
3. Malherbe
4. Etzebeth
5. Matfield
6. Schalk Burger
7. PSD
8. Vermeulen
9. Fourie DP
10. Naas Botha
11. Habana
12. Mannetjies Roux
13. Danie Gerber
14. Cheslin Kolbe
15. Percy Monty
Bench(5-3 split):
16. Beast
17. Uli
18. Kitshoff
19. Bakkies
20. Vrik dP
21. Joost
22. Frans Steyn
23. Ray Mordt
@@naasduplessis855 the bench as well! 🔥
all, these players born yesterday. Gerber?
Then there is this small little matter called Ray Mordt. At 14
Or terblanche
This is the squad I think is best I'm 12 btw
1 Tendai(Beast) Mtawarira
2 Bongi Mbonambi
3 Frans Malherbe
4 Eben Etzebeth
5 Victor Matfield
6 Siya Kolisi
7 Peter Steph Du Toit
8 Duane Vermuelen
9 Faf De Klerk
10 Handre Pollard
11 Brayan Habana
12 Damian De Allende
13 Lukanyo Am
14 Cheslin Kolbe
15 Willie Le roux
Bench (5-3 split
16 Malcom Marx
17 Trevor Nyakane
18 Ox Nche
19 Franco Mostert
20 Kwagga Smith
21 Cobus Rienach
22 Makazole Mapimpi
23 Kurt Lee Arendse
You seem to think that most of your selection of the GREATEST EVER(right?) are those that are still currently playing the game, except for a couple that are done playing like Bryan, Fourie, Jean and Andre for instance. Are you saying that none of the players like Frik du Preez, Uli, Bakkies etc. were also great in they play days?
Please I'm not saying that your selection is wrong, because you would taken ALL factors into account before concluding that this is the best team.
JDV over DDA is a crime.
Both of them over Danie Gerber is an even bigger Crime!
Rename to best players of the last 20 years. You missed greats like Danie Craven, Frik du Preez, Joost van der Westhuizen, Carel du Plessis, Mannetjies Roux, Danie Gerber, Uli Smidt, and Hennie Muller to name a few.
You can’t compare those era to now. Players today are so much better, and play way more games.
Before I watch it:
1 Os 2 Smit 3 Malherbe 4 Botha 5 Matfield 6 Kolsi 7 Steph du Toit 8 Spies 9 Joost 10 Stransky 11 Habana 12 De Villers 13 Am 14 Kolbe 15 Joubert
DANIE Gerber the best 13 the world has ever seen
The enforcer Bakkies John Philip Botha will forever be the best lock.
Joost van der Westhuizen is easily the best-ever scrum half.
Nass Botha or Henry Honiball at Flyhalf beats Pollard any day.
Morne Steyn/Percy Montgomery.
Pierre Spies at NO.8
The greatest ever HAS to go back before 2000 by definition… ever heard of Danie Gerber. Moronic analysis.
Moronic? Play nice...
Moronic? Gerber's not even number 3.
@@chrisnaude2929 You got to be kidding me. Just read the comments here... He is considered by many to not just be the best in the SA, but best in the world. If you look at the comments, you will see most people here would have him number 1. This is coming from a huge JDV and Am fan.
@@edrianluyt8735 A lot of stupid people in the world.
scalk burger deserved 6
Montgomery surely wt 15
6と7が逆じゃない?
Best for now....
Who you got your eyes on???
@@rugbybuzz ....Zwilindaba....De Villiers reinvented.
@@trevorsammons8179 👀 👀 👀
Am at 13, sorry buddy but Danie Gerber was the best ever 13. Finish en klaar
Nah man, from an ALL BLACK'S supporter.
2) John Smit
4) Botha
6)Burger
10) joost
13) Fourie
15) Montgomery
Mate sorry this isn't the greatest springbok team
You have obviously not watched Mannetjies Roux and Rob louw play. Also Danie gerber not only the best 13 this country has seen but the greatest 13 of alltime of all countries. You cannot compare Pollard to Naas Botha. . Botha totally diferent catagory . Pollard not even the best current flyhalf.
For fuck sake they won the world cup with 1 point and against 14 men who almost kicked there ass
This video was not made by a with African
No Francois Pienaar no Joost van Der Vesthuizen no Joel stransky no Naas Botha no Danie Gerber omg
9 joost
Joost!!! Waar is joost?? No better scrum half ever sorry
No. 9 has to be Joost Van Der Westhuizen. Ask anyone and Joost was the best no 9 I ever seen playing until know.
Everyone has an opinion buddy! All a bit of fun!
@@rugbybuzz then next time say ,"Best Springboks team of all time, IN MY OPINION"!!🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🙄🙄🚮
Agree. Joost van der Westhuizen is actually rated as one of the best in world. Sorry. Du Preez is low second at best.
Scalk Burger
Joost van der w
Henry H
Danie Gerber
Curtly Arendse
How far do you go back mate?! AM?!!!! Are you serious?! You have to learn about SA Rugby, your lack of knowledge is scary!
We all have an opinion buddy! It's all just a bit of fun...What's your XV?
Siya is not a better player than shall burger y'all can cry all u want
I was 51% Siya 49% Schalk! So hard to pick! All Blacks XV vid drops soon....lets see what people think of that one 🤣
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all your videos is interesting
Thank you 🙏 All Blacks all time XV next...let's see how that goes down!
You haven't done your homework properly. DANIE GERBER is the best centre the world has ever seen!!
Everyone has an opinion buddy! 👍All just a bit of fun...What's your XV?
And Francois Louw Rob louw Schalk Burger all better than Siya sorry
De Villiers - never the best. Absolute lousy captain. Yuk!
Os
Malcom
Beast
Eben
Lood
Burger
PSDT
Balie Swart
Joost
Handre
Habana
De Allende
Jacques Fourie
Aplon
Kolbe
That would be my 15
Lood over matfield?😁
@@LesegoLetsoalo-ro8dk Any given day
Matfield was a lineout specialist that’s it. Nothing fancy cause he couldn’t carry, couldn’t fetch, had a bit of an offload that’s about it. Physically he wasn’t that strong. All day he stands next to Rucks gasping for air lol.
Lood is a workhorse! Arguably one of the best lineout specialists to play the game, carries well, jackals when possible. Just does the basics better than Matfield
Some overlap then! I was 51% Siya 49% Schalk! So hard to pick! All Blacks XV vid drops soon....lets see what people think of that one 🤣
Dude, you picked a prop on 8th man? As the best 8th man ever, how? 😂 Why don't you pick Marx on fly half and then you can pick Bismarck too?
No thanks. Far from the Best.
What's you best XV? 🙂
This team is terrible.
1 Beast
2 Bismarck
3 Malherbe
4 Eben
5 Matfield
6 Schalk
7 PSDT
8 Vermeulen
9 du Preez
10 Pollard
11 Mapimpi
12 De Allende
13 Am/Fourie
14 Habana
15 Montgomery
Can I ask how old you are James? De Allende over Jean DeVilliers?? Ask this question to any NZ supporter and you might get the right answer. Fourie over Am anyday, but then Gerber over both of them. Him being fully professional like the other too, I think he would be up there in the conversations of who is the GOAT. Unfortunately Apartheid held him back (along with many others)
Btw, I mean this out of no disrespect, your selection is really good. Just want you to try get some footage of those guys then give me your opinion. You'd really be impressed 😊
@@seanschoeman247 I watched all of Jean de Villiers. He’s nowhere near De Allende.
@@seanschoeman247 pre professional era players simply cannot make this team.
@@jameswyatt4443 I already replied to you on the hole beast situation , other than that i agree completley about De Allende any player who is playing in todays game is going to be better than a player who played 10+ years before him it's unfortuantly how this beutiful game works
nope
Everyone has an opinion buddy! All a bit of fun! If it’s a no, what’s your team?