Idk why but I just didn’t even connect that she was seeing Sauron’s true form standing right there with them and that makes the whole thing 1000% better. Super cool, he’s just been disguising himself to whatever benefits him this whole series, it’s hard to remember there is a literal embodiment of evil and darkness standing right there with them.
Actually it sounded more like a balrog since during this time Sauron’s using the dwarfs rings to communicate and bring the Balrog to his side. Plus if she had seen him then I think she would have said something
I know Kemen is a character you’re supposed to “love to hate”, but imagine having a family dynamic so toxic that your dad will only tell you how your mother thought you’d die if you make yourself useful first. He and Pharazon have such a twisted and bitter relationship
I have Umbridge levels of hate for Pharazon now, which is weird because I found myself supporting him at the beginning. I guess i should've learnt from dune not to trust charismatic leaders.
Or he could not care about knowing how he dies because it’ll happen whether it’s known or not. Not all children follow their parent’s will like Eärien; he could go against his father but he won’t.
@@TheBabyCaleb have to agree to disagree, Morfydd is incredible as young Galadriel. She's slowly closing the distance between the Galadriel we know later on.
Not a hard thing to acomplish seeing as how shows been absolute garbage with nothing happening any episode lol. And the little that has happened in this entire season could have and should have just been the first 3 episodes of season 1. Cant believe they spent this much money just to insult Tolkiens legacy and amazing stories
I loved this episode, it reminded me a bit of the politics of Game of Thrones but in a different way. Numenor really, as you say, is something that needs to be improved, but in this episode we finally see how the decline began and how greed begins to overflow, like a tsunami coming from the sea. LOL, the part about the dwarves and elves was fantastic. I loved this manipulation, this beginning of the dwarves' fall also due to their greed, which is much greater in them. With each light that illuminated the darkness, as you said, penetrating the mountain again, it was like each initial fracture that will bring about the total collapse. Man, I loved the episode. If it weren't for all these people being blinded by irrationality, there would be a lot more people talking about this series without wanting to be so toxic and meaningless, heuehe.
Incredible episode. Every scene with Celebrimbor was breathtaking, but Numenor was really exciting as well. Oh and the dwarves being corrupted was awesome as well
This episode did a good job at demonstrating the different effects of each of the Rings of Power. The Elves used their three to preserve their kingdoms and we able to avoid Sauron's temptations. The Dwarves will not fall under Sauron's influence because they're too stubborn, but the Seven Rings did increase their love of gold, causing them to build up hoards massive enough to attract dragons (like what will happen to Erebor in the Third Age) or in the case of Khazadum (the Dwarves dug too deep and too greedily, unleashing Durin's Bane). Ultimately, 3 of the 7 will be consumed by dragons and the rest will be reclaimed by Sauron. And finally, the Men who will be given the Nine Rings will become the Nazgul.
The watcher lives in a small pool outside of the western Walls of Moria, not in the tunnels underneath Khazad-dûm. The first documented encounter with the watcher was after the hobbit movie, when Balin tried to reclaim Moria, so I doubt it will appear in this show. They did however show us last season that Durin's Bane is down in the tunnels, so can't imagine it would be anyone but him.
@@emmanaess2860it is speculated that the Watcher was freed when the western gate valley was flooded, and Gandalf says there's more ancient things than the Balrog in the tunnels beneath Moria
@@alexblazquezvelarde8677 Unless they intend to include a short scene by Kheled-zâram, I fail to see how the Watcher would add to the story. The Watcher is confined to water and thus would not pose a threat to Khazad-dûm. We know that the mining activity of the Dwarves awoke Durin's Bane, who was both included in season one and the trailer for season two. While its conceivable that the Watcher will eventually be included, it would be odd in my opinion to not have the monster talked about here be Durin's Bane.
@@emmanaess2860 It could also be a Red Haring. We know that the creature in the tunnels is Durin's Bane. There is nothing to debate there. But the scene where Gisa encounters the sound... those were pools of water. And the sounds that were bounced back to her were similar to the sounds the watcher makes. While the Watcher is known and first encountered to be at the gates of Durin outside Moria, this could be where it originated from. That it was beneath the mountain originally. The ring, while helping the dwarves, is also guiding them to their doom. The lake outside the gates of Duren did not exist until after the doors were sealed. And it is suggested that the creature could have been awoken by the dwarves just like how Durin's Bain is awoken. It is also suggestive that the Watcher was awoken by Sauron's growing power. All that said, it could be one or the other, or both. No way to tell at the moment until we see how it all unfolds.
If case anyone has confusion, there was no Watcher in that water. The water moved because of the low vibration movements of the Balrog beneath the bottom of that pond. Remember that the sound design team used a moving cinderblock as the sounds of the balrog and pitched it down.
I wonder if Valandil's fight and death hurt Elendil even more because of how Valandil was getting drowned like Elendil's wife when she was trying to save Isildur from drowning. Loving the reactions and season 2!
The One Ring being made with Sauron's blood is a concept they intended to put in the movies, but they cut it out in the end. You can still see Sauron holding the knife in the movie.
The way Kemen is depicted makes me think he will end up as a Nazgûl, perhaps even the Witch King. He is so hungry for power and prestige, and has little regard for his fellow countrymen.
This childish buffoon as the Witch King? I'd never be able to take him seriously in the original movies again, knowing this sniveling idiot is behind the mask, lmao.
@@logan3093 I just can't imagine they would use a character they have spent a lot of time developing and that most viewers despise, for something like a sacrifice. The fact that they have depicted him in such a negative light suggests to me that his ending will be as an antagonist, not as a victim of Ar-Pharazôn and the cult of Morgoth.
Easily the best episode of the show so far, and all the episodes have ranged from good to great. This season in particular is firing on a different level. Can’t wait for next week!
Valandil's death was so uncalled for. Kemen washing the blood on the sword in the water was great symbolism. The Valar will make sure he gets what's coming to him.
Even worse, after he killed Valandil he then told his underlings to (if I'm not mistaken) blame Valandil for the fighting. On top of losing someone who I got the impression was like another son to him, I can't imagine how that made Elendil feel.
Potential spoilers Isildurs youngest, and eventually only surving son after the gladden fields disastor where the ring is lost, is named valandil, i feel they gave isildur a friend with that name intentionally, as he dies standing with isildurs father.
I will say, what many people don't realize when they say they want the show to go away, its not going to. It was contracted for 5 seasons. Something like a BILLION dollar deal. So trust me, for that cost, they won't stop it before then. I just wish more people would take this show as being an alternate universe, though connected to the movies only, not so much the exact lore of the book. Because once you can accept its NOT an exact lore replica of the writings, you end up loving the show!
I dont think thats how it works, acolyte cost a shit ton and it got canceled, this show is not getting enough viewers (and therefore not earning enough money to justify the 1 bill) so its completely possible it gets canned too
@@mirkecWiiAcolyte cost a bit but it doesn't come close to RoP. This is the most expensive show ever made. Also this is one of the most watched seasons of a TV show on Prime, top 5. So Amazon will take that all day.
Sauron had no power over the dwarven rings unlike with the men instead the corruption in the rings just encouraged the dwarven greed making them even more greedy and wanting more and more, their own natural greed kept them from submitting to saurons will, which annoyed sauron because he couldn't control them and he tried taking the rings back think he took 3 rings back and its assumed the rest had been eventually eaten by dragons
Tolkien says that The One Ring has Sauron's cruelty, malice, and will to dominate all life inside it. It makes sense for Celebrimbor's deception at the very least to be embued in the dwarven rings.
Seriously, love they don´t present Celabrimbor as utterly stupid, he does push back on Annatar, he does have enough integrety to not follow his every word blindly, only… its Sauron he has to deal with, so…
33:38 Sauron was playing the long con, make three rings for the elves that work and do good, so he can draw them into making more rings, but those are corrupted, by then its too late and he's got them hooked. Like a Ponzi scheme, get a new investor to see big profits from an initial investment, then they go all in and the scammer has their money, so its too late.
Sauron was half lying. He didnt imply the elf rings were corrupted, but the dwarven ones, which is true. But they were corrupted because he took part in the crafting and not because of Celebrimbor's lie
@@vimalraj3030I mean for such an intelligent character to be fooled by thinking his letter caused corruption is just laughable. Then flirts with the other who then immediately forgets the horrors she's witnessed putting the ring on. The logical conclusion after that is to make more rings right. It's so poorly written and could of easily been linked to lore in making of rings Instead of this show that acts as if it's audience has zero critical thinking. Even the dwarves incredibly quick transition for the ring to take over their minds is just ridiculous, zero build up. All done in one episode
Correct me if I am wrong, but is what the dwarf woman (forget her name) heard in the dark cave a Balrog? I think at the end of the last season we seen deep down and they showed fire approaching with a roar. Or was the scene in this related to yet another mosnter of the deep? -edit- You had the same sort of idea!
lowkey annoyed we lose my favourite numenorean Loving Khazad Dum stuff Sauron with his half truths and misdirections is really fun/frustrating to watch
@@katieee1203 why is youtube deleting my comments? I posted three times, only 37% of viewers finished season 1, and its not looking good for season 2 (google RoP low viewership, I guess links arent allowed)
this episode's high king Noldor somehow is really irritate. In Mr Tolkien book, Gil-galad is difference with all other King of Noldor. He care about his kind, and devote everything even his life not only to stop Sauron but also save as many elf as possible. But in this show, Gil-galad show hestitate to saving Eregion, it prove that this is pragnatic king who willing to sacrifice his kind to get benefit from it, and he also have short sight about strategic view. Even if he show himself have no diffence with other ambitious high king Noldor but at least he must have some wisdom worth with High King Noldor title. Does he really think Sauron is satisfy and stop after conquere Eregion ?🤔
The rings what they do its give power over what the desire. Elf their land and magic, dwarf treasure and in this case the light, humans eternal life, so the corruptin came in that way, the elfs were safe of the corruption, the dwarfs dig too deep for balrgos and hover over so much treasure that dragons came, humans became the nazgul
Hii, loved your reaction as always. You should check out "my lady jane". It's a great series and I would love to hear what you have to say about that one.
I feel like we should have already met the 9 non of the numenoreans feel mighty or king like. They all act weasley and middle earths population seems thin. Where will these 9 men even come from?
Same place the dwarf lords come from in this episode - most likely from off-screen. We don’t even see the 7 Dwarf ringbearers and we’re unlikely to. We’ll probably get at least one numenorean Ringwraith, the Witch King, and presumably one from Rhun since it was name checked in this episode - but I don’t see the writers wanting to cram in 6-7 other side characters as backstory for the ringwraiths. The witch king is the only notable one of the Nine anyway.
This is the frist episode of this season that was enjoyable. And I think I have finally figured out why because looking through the episode catalog of both seasons, it is now clear to me that the less I see of Gladriel in a episode the better I like that episode and i so wanted not to admit that last season. The one thing I'm still not sure of is wether it is the writing for her character or the blandness of the actress. I really hope its the writing because that can be improved but the actor can't be replaced at this stage probably. Or just minimize her role in the show, there are so many other interesting characters and storylines in the show, just focus on them.
How does Sauron back and forth gaslight Celebrimbor without him noticing? It's so crazy. He made him worry about telling the high king the truth and then destablizes his authority by making him feel guilty of it. Like holy shit, it was his idea.
@@Adam-xg1chthat’s literally what Sauron’s character in the books is though; he’s a deceiver and manipulator. His power was never about physical strength 🤷
im loving the series but maybe its because i did media but for me that will go down as one of the worst endings to an epiosde i have ever seen. not even blaming actors or filming as such but the storyline was soo pointless. yes we needed that interaction where addar tells galadriel about the common enemy, but we already knew that convo was to happen so to end two episodes in a row basically identical is incredibly dumb they showed the recap to just re show a similar ending at the end for 2 minutes honestly i love the show but that will go down for me as one of the most unimportant endings i have ever seen
Season 2 Is Better Than Season 1 And Episode 1, 2 & 5 Are Best Episodes Of Season 2. But There Are Still Problems Like The Human (Numenor & Southlands), The Wizard And The Orcs Storylines Are Boring, The Best Aspect Of The Show Are Sauron, The Elves And The Dwarves Whenever There Is Sauron, Celebrimbor, King Durin, Prince Durin, Disa, Elrond, Gil Galad On The Screen It Suddenly Becomes Interesting. Even In The Silmarillion The MVP Of Second Age Are Sauron, The Rings Of Power And The Elves Specifically Celebrimbor So Whenever In The Show We Get To See Sauron Using His Manipulative And Deceptive Tactics On Celebrimbor, The Story Peaks, The Screenplay Peaks And The Music Peaks...
I'm worried about Celebrían and Celeborn and how they're going to make this character appear. I would theorize that after the fall of Numenor they would disappear with these human characters and there would be a time jump with Galadriel pregnant and Celebrían grown up, but there's still Isildur...so no chance. He'll still age, but not much. Unless Celebrían is already born and Galadriel has left her in a safe place, this could pose a problem in the future if they don't find a good solution.
While I partially agree, I think that this episode was a step in the right direction. Elendil was great in this episode, as was the queen regent. The overall story there is weak for sure, but the performances of some of the main actors plus the trajectory of Elendil/Isildurs’ characters here is interesting to me considering how we first see them on screen. I have hope still lol
Strongly disagree. Given that Numenor can't be the primary focus of this season (but probably will be in Season 3), they're still managing to efficiently show key elements of the lore as preparation for when the Numenor eventually becomes the main center of action.
@@tysonchurcher1736 I’m glad that some people are enjoying it. I personally find it to be slow and also feel like the characters are by the far the most uninteresting ones in the show
what feels a bit cheap to me is that they constantly use quotes from the movies. it feels like copy & paste, I mean they could have used other words for it.
@@sebastian8237except they aren't using the words from the book they are adapting (which they laughably dont have the rights for), but using words from books/movies which take place thousands of years after this show
I feel like the ending sets up an interesting plot line. I was hard on some of the show’s weak points in the past (including the previous episode) but I don’t really see the ending as bad until we see what it sets up/leads to
To be fair Amazon sort of hinted this wasn't going to be exactly like the books and more of its own thing that takes place before the movies. Pulling inspiration from random Tolkien things instead. Which in that case, is why i am ok with the show. I just think of it as the "LOTRFranchiseVerse" instead.
Most boring episode ever. At this point I just watch it like a trash TV series and that's fine. But even with that it was so damn boring. Those dialogue are a disgrace to humanity. We don't get to see anything what's happening in the world. Only boring dialogues from the same boring actors with looong meaningful looks covering they basically talk about the same shit all over again :D Cruel white guy numenor Joffrey was my personal highlight
@@katieee1203because it's fascinating to see how badly they make it despite so much money being spent. It reaffirms beliefs to not stay too far away from the source. Like he said watching as trash TV to laugh at how ridiculous it is. It's great for that
@@katieee1203 not really, I watch it on pirate website so gets them now viewership or Money. It's like watching sharnados, u know it's trash but u still watch it. At some point it will lose it's novelty but I'm hoping they can do exciting battles
@@katieee1203 think my comment got deleted. I don't watch it thru Amazon. I watch it on dodgy website so they not getting any money or viewership. I m hoping there will be at least good action sequences which is why I still watch along with how cheesy it is
@@MrAchsasI do understand, though in fairness….they are not going to succeed in a lot of the paths set up in this series..as we know by the existence of Lord of the Rings 😂. The men being loyal with Elendil was nice, there is some hope there. And I suppose we didn’t have much Elrond or Arondir or Harfoots this episode. So I suppose it’s just a balance of characters and storylines we got the slightly more depressing end. If there’s 8 episode it probably feels about right for episode 5 to be “oh god everything is just getting worse” 😅
@@JeM130177 yeah true it kinda feela like shogun where leading to season final everything took a really depressing turn And yeah i mean i understand it But it just doesnt really make fun to watch this stuff at least for me
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Sauron gaslit Celebrimbor so hard this episode I was upset for him 😭
The deceiver
I was ready to throw hands for him hey 😢 especially when sauron killed his vibe after his speech
Diabolical.
fuckbois could never gaslight this hard, sauron is their ultimate
The reveal of a ring being used and the description of Sauron’s true form present in the room was pretty brilliant🤭
Charlie has been AMAZING
Idk why but I just didn’t even connect that she was seeing Sauron’s true form standing right there with them and that makes the whole thing 1000% better. Super cool, he’s just been disguising himself to whatever benefits him this whole series, it’s hard to remember there is a literal embodiment of evil and darkness standing right there with them.
Actually it sounded more like a balrog since during this time Sauron’s using the dwarfs rings to communicate and bring the Balrog to his side. Plus if she had seen him then I think she would have said something
@nerdwatch1017 yeah but I can see Sauron's true form being like a balrog since balrogs are corrupted maiar like Sauron
@@nerdwatch1017I think you’re giving the shows writers credit way beyond their capabilities.
I know Kemen is a character you’re supposed to “love to hate”, but imagine having a family dynamic so toxic that your dad will only tell you how your mother thought you’d die if you make yourself useful first. He and Pharazon have such a twisted and bitter relationship
I have Umbridge levels of hate for Pharazon now, which is weird because I found myself supporting him at the beginning. I guess i should've learnt from dune not to trust charismatic leaders.
Or he could not care about knowing how he dies because it’ll happen whether it’s known or not. Not all children follow their parent’s will like Eärien; he could go against his father but he won’t.
Waldred was a character you love to hate, Kemen is a character that's easy to hate, making him unworthy of loving doing it.
Pix???!!? I didn’t expect to see you here, love your videos!
Aaron continuously despairing at the events that have to happen in order for Lord of the Rings to take place is my favourite part 😂😂😂
I love the suggestion from Eric that maybe there's a multiverse and maybe this time it'll be different. (I'd hate to see it, but it'd be funny)
Probably my fav ep of the series so far!
Sauron, the Great Gaslighter
I could honestly watch Sauron do stuff like this for 8 seasons 😭
I had the same delighted reaction to the anvil paperweight XD Celebrimbor is such a sweet nerd, he doesn't deserve any of this :(
Fun fact I learnt today: Tolkein died in 1973- 1 ring for Sauron, 9 for men, 7 for dwarves and 3 for elves
Ok now that’s creepy but also pretty damn cool
Wtfff
the little paperweight anvil lmaooo i need one
_“I'd've thrown it in the water.”_
Couldn't agree more thoroughly.
This was the strongest episode of the season! Every damn scene was solid.
why? no harfoots, barely no Galadriel.
@@gffg387 that’s what makes it better. Galadriel sucks in the show and the harfoots are assholes
@@TheBabyCaleb exactly brother. 100%
@@TheBabyCaleb have to agree to disagree, Morfydd is incredible as young Galadriel. She's slowly closing the distance between the Galadriel we know later on.
Not a hard thing to acomplish seeing as how shows been absolute garbage with nothing happening any episode lol. And the little that has happened in this entire season could have and should have just been the first 3 episodes of season 1. Cant believe they spent this much money just to insult Tolkiens legacy and amazing stories
I love to hate Annatar the Gasighter. Poor Celebrimbor😭😭😭
That’s something I hope we can see is the faithful newmonorians starting to build Gondor maybe in season 3.
that's after the downfall so probably season 4 or 5
I loved this episode, it reminded me a bit of the politics of Game of Thrones but in a different way. Numenor really, as you say, is something that needs to be improved, but in this episode we finally see how the decline began and how greed begins to overflow, like a tsunami coming from the sea. LOL, the part about the dwarves and elves was fantastic. I loved this manipulation, this beginning of the dwarves' fall also due to their greed, which is much greater in them. With each light that illuminated the darkness, as you said, penetrating the mountain again, it was like each initial fracture that will bring about the total collapse. Man, I loved the episode. If it weren't for all these people being blinded by irrationality, there would be a lot more people talking about this series without wanting to be so toxic and meaningless, heuehe.
Eric’s beard is evolving to Stoick the Vast levels
Incredible episode. Every scene with Celebrimbor was breathtaking, but Numenor was really exciting as well. Oh and the dwarves being corrupted was awesome as well
Incredible boring. How can you get served shit and still love it. It's a mystery of humanity 😂
you cant be serious
@@Adam-xg1ch He is obviously joking and not serious
@@scenejack is he?
@@Adam-xg1ch I hope for his sanity
This episode did a good job at demonstrating the different effects of each of the Rings of Power. The Elves used their three to preserve their kingdoms and we able to avoid Sauron's temptations. The Dwarves will not fall under Sauron's influence because they're too stubborn, but the Seven Rings did increase their love of gold, causing them to build up hoards massive enough to attract dragons (like what will happen to Erebor in the Third Age) or in the case of Khazadum (the Dwarves dug too deep and too greedily, unleashing Durin's Bane). Ultimately, 3 of the 7 will be consumed by dragons and the rest will be reclaimed by Sauron. And finally, the Men who will be given the Nine Rings will become the Nazgul.
Sauron: "I put a spell on yoU! CAUSE YOU'RE MIIIIIIIINE!"
When I heard the growl in the caves I thought Balrog but it could be the tentacle creature too.
The watcher
The watcher lives in a small pool outside of the western Walls of Moria, not in the tunnels underneath Khazad-dûm. The first documented encounter with the watcher was after the hobbit movie, when Balin tried to reclaim Moria, so I doubt it will appear in this show.
They did however show us last season that Durin's Bane is down in the tunnels, so can't imagine it would be anyone but him.
@@emmanaess2860it is speculated that the Watcher was freed when the western gate valley was flooded, and Gandalf says there's more ancient things than the Balrog in the tunnels beneath Moria
@@alexblazquezvelarde8677 Unless they intend to include a short scene by Kheled-zâram, I fail to see how the Watcher would add to the story. The Watcher is confined to water and thus would not pose a threat to Khazad-dûm.
We know that the mining activity of the Dwarves awoke Durin's Bane, who was both included in season one and the trailer for season two. While its conceivable that the Watcher will eventually be included, it would be odd in my opinion to not have the monster talked about here be Durin's Bane.
@@emmanaess2860 It could also be a Red Haring. We know that the creature in the tunnels is Durin's Bane. There is nothing to debate there. But the scene where Gisa encounters the sound... those were pools of water. And the sounds that were bounced back to her were similar to the sounds the watcher makes. While the Watcher is known and first encountered to be at the gates of Durin outside Moria, this could be where it originated from. That it was beneath the mountain originally. The ring, while helping the dwarves, is also guiding them to their doom.
The lake outside the gates of Duren did not exist until after the doors were sealed. And it is suggested that the creature could have been awoken by the dwarves just like how Durin's Bain is awoken. It is also suggestive that the Watcher was awoken by Sauron's growing power. All that said, it could be one or the other, or both. No way to tell at the moment until we see how it all unfolds.
I am so excited to see where this goes in the remaining season and the one to come.
When Mirdania was in the shadow world she saw Sauron's true form. That's what she's describing.
Blind Wave, awesome content keep it up bro
"Find joy in little things Aaron" You're absolutely right Eric :D !
If case anyone has confusion, there was no Watcher in that water. The water moved because of the low vibration movements of the Balrog beneath the bottom of that pond. Remember that the sound design team used a moving cinderblock as the sounds of the balrog and pitched it down.
I wonder if Valandil's fight and death hurt Elendil even more because of how Valandil was getting drowned like Elendil's wife when she was trying to save Isildur from drowning.
Loving the reactions and season 2!
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one who thought about that tentacle thing that was guarding the door before
The One Ring being made with Sauron's blood is a concept they intended to put in the movies, but they cut it out in the end. You can still see Sauron holding the knife in the movie.
The way Kemen is depicted makes me think he will end up as a Nazgûl, perhaps even the Witch King. He is so hungry for power and prestige, and has little regard for his fellow countrymen.
This childish buffoon as the Witch King? I'd never be able to take him seriously in the original movies again, knowing this sniveling idiot is behind the mask, lmao.
either that or if he continues to disappoint his father he might end up being the first human sacrifice at morgoth’s altar
The Witch King is a former Numenorian so you may be onto something
@tinuvieI that would be interesting since so far he's been instrumental in helping secure his father's position
@@logan3093 I just can't imagine they would use a character they have spent a lot of time developing and that most viewers despise, for something like a sacrifice. The fact that they have depicted him in such a negative light suggests to me that his ending will be as an antagonist, not as a victim of Ar-Pharazôn and the cult of Morgoth.
Easily the best episode of the show so far, and all the episodes have ranged from good to great. This season in particular is firing on a different level. Can’t wait for next week!
Valandil's death was so uncalled for. Kemen washing the blood on the sword in the water was great symbolism. The Valar will make sure he gets what's coming to him.
Even worse, after he killed Valandil he then told his underlings to (if I'm not mistaken) blame Valandil for the fighting. On top of losing someone who I got the impression was like another son to him, I can't imagine how that made Elendil feel.
I love that Durin has a tiny anvil paperweight, too. I totally did not notice that the first time around.
always love the reactions, big thanks guys ^.^
You know, I'm starting to think calling him CeleBIMBO is actually more accurate by each episode
Two episode in one day what a surprise
Best episode in the entire series so far. This was nuts.
This was such a gooood episode. Maybe best one yet.
Bro this show is so 🔥 . Its painful to have wait every week. Never thought i would be so in to this lore but here TF I am.
fantastic episode from start to finish
Potential spoilers
Isildurs youngest, and eventually only surving son after the gladden fields disastor where the ring is lost, is named valandil, i feel they gave isildur a friend with that name intentionally, as he dies standing with isildurs father.
I will say, what many people don't realize when they say they want the show to go away, its not going to. It was contracted for 5 seasons. Something like a BILLION dollar deal. So trust me, for that cost, they won't stop it before then. I just wish more people would take this show as being an alternate universe, though connected to the movies only, not so much the exact lore of the book. Because once you can accept its NOT an exact lore replica of the writings, you end up loving the show!
I dont think thats how it works, acolyte cost a shit ton and it got canceled, this show is not getting enough viewers (and therefore not earning enough money to justify the 1 bill) so its completely possible it gets canned too
@@mirkecWiiAcolyte cost a bit but it doesn't come close to RoP. This is the most expensive show ever made.
Also this is one of the most watched seasons of a TV show on Prime, top 5. So Amazon will take that all day.
Sauron had no power over the dwarven rings unlike with the men instead the corruption in the rings just encouraged the dwarven greed making them even more greedy and wanting more and more, their own natural greed kept them from submitting to saurons will, which annoyed sauron because he couldn't control them and he tried taking the rings back think he took 3 rings back and its assumed the rest had been eventually eaten by dragons
Isn't that so much more interesting than what the show has done. It's not even hard to put that onto screen so can't understand this approach
This season of the show is pretty incredible honestly. I liked the first one, but this one is great so far
interesting. what are your other favourite shows?
Great reaction Wave Crew!
Sauron's Manipulation of Celebrimbor on full display 😬😬😬
Tolkien says that The One Ring has Sauron's cruelty, malice, and will to dominate all life inside it. It makes sense for Celebrimbor's deception at the very least to be embued in the dwarven rings.
I'm starting to reignite my theory that Theo is The Witch King again, now that his mother's gone.
Saurons flaming form is the one we see in the hobbit.
this episode was so gooood, cannot wait for the next one. Love your reactions
Waiting for this😂
I think there’s a strong chance a ring goes to the King of Numenors son - and Kemen becomes a Nazgûl.
i really hope they will nail the fall of numernor. It gets really dark. Temples made for Morgoth, human sacrifices etc
loved the episode and the reaction
Seriously, love they don´t present Celabrimbor as utterly stupid, he does push back on Annatar, he does have enough integrety to not follow his every word blindly, only… its Sauron he has to deal with, so…
I really liked this episode
Excellent reaction!!
33:38 Sauron was playing the long con, make three rings for the elves that work and do good, so he can draw them into making more rings, but those are corrupted, by then its too late and he's got them hooked. Like a Ponzi scheme, get a new investor to see big profits from an initial investment, then they go all in and the scammer has their money, so its too late.
Sauron is just lying. Celebrimbor didnt do anything wrong. The elven rings are untainted
Sauron was half lying. He didnt imply the elf rings were corrupted, but the dwarven ones, which is true. But they were corrupted because he took part in the crafting and not because of Celebrimbor's lie
@@vimalraj3030 yeah i was just stating he lied about Cele being at any fault.
@@vimalraj3030I mean for such an intelligent character to be fooled by thinking his letter caused corruption is just laughable. Then flirts with the other who then immediately forgets the horrors she's witnessed putting the ring on. The logical conclusion after that is to make more rings right. It's so poorly written and could of easily been linked to lore in making of rings Instead of this show that acts as if it's audience has zero critical thinking. Even the dwarves incredibly quick transition for the ring to take over their minds is just ridiculous, zero build up. All done in one episode
It pissed me off so bad when that kid stabbed him in the back.
Correct me if I am wrong, but is what the dwarf woman (forget her name) heard in the dark cave a Balrog? I think at the end of the last season we seen deep down and they showed fire approaching with a roar. Or was the scene in this related to yet another mosnter of the deep? -edit- You had the same sort of idea!
It will probably be the Belrog but it could also include the Watcher.
Is smaug the dragon from the hobbit
@@umarheadcutter7189 I know you did not tag me but yes.
Seven for the Dwarf-lords in their halls of stone!
lowkey annoyed we lose my favourite numenorean
Loving Khazad Dum stuff
Sauron with his half truths and misdirections is really fun/frustrating to watch
I like how people are calling this season a flop so much that it can't be a flop cause everyone talks about it.
Sooo, like the acolyte? 😂
lol no one is talking about this show. (at least in real life anyways)
People also fail to bring up that this is one of the most watched seasons of a TV show on Prime, top 5.
@@mirkecWii Nah acolyte was actual trash
@@katieee1203 why is youtube deleting my comments? I posted three times, only 37% of viewers finished season 1, and its not looking good for season 2 (google RoP low viewership, I guess links arent allowed)
But if they go to Eregion they'll get both!
6:42 LOLLL
this episode's high king Noldor somehow is really irritate. In Mr Tolkien book, Gil-galad is difference with all other King of Noldor. He care about his kind, and devote everything even his life not only to stop Sauron but also save as many elf as possible. But in this show, Gil-galad show hestitate to saving Eregion, it prove that this is pragnatic king who willing to sacrifice his kind to get benefit from it, and he also have short sight about strategic view. Even if he show himself have no diffence with other ambitious high king Noldor but at least he must have some wisdom worth with High King Noldor title. Does he really think Sauron is satisfy and stop after conquere Eregion ?🤔
The rings what they do its give power over what the desire. Elf their land and magic, dwarf treasure and in this case the light, humans eternal life, so the corruptin came in that way, the elfs were safe of the corruption, the dwarfs dig too deep for balrgos and hover over so much treasure that dragons came, humans became the nazgul
Hii, loved your reaction as always. You should check out "my lady jane". It's a great series and I would love to hear what you have to say about that one.
Have these 2 ever seen Peaky blinders???
It was covered in the channel before and these two we're part of the reactions so I want to say yes but don't quote me on that.
@@katieee1203 yeah I’ve seen the reactions but Aaron and Eric weren’t in them, would love to see them cover it if they haven’t already seen it
Really struggle to follow the Numenor and harfoot storyline in this show.
I feel like we should have already met the 9 non of the numenoreans feel mighty or king like. They all act weasley and middle earths population seems thin. Where will these 9 men even come from?
Same place the dwarf lords come from in this episode - most likely from off-screen. We don’t even see the 7 Dwarf ringbearers and we’re unlikely to. We’ll probably get at least one numenorean Ringwraith, the Witch King, and presumably one from Rhun since it was name checked in this episode - but I don’t see the writers wanting to cram in 6-7 other side characters as backstory for the ringwraiths. The witch king is the only notable one of the Nine anyway.
Three seems like a good number of ringwraiths to know, and would you look at that, we have three distinct groups of humans in the show.
"not that far away" yeah cause the show wrote Elendil in thousand years earlier lol
This is the frist episode of this season that was enjoyable. And I think I have finally figured out why because looking through the episode catalog of both seasons, it is now clear to me that the less I see of Gladriel in a episode the better I like that episode and i so wanted not to admit that last season. The one thing I'm still not sure of is wether it is the writing for her character or the blandness of the actress. I really hope its the writing because that can be improved but the actor can't be replaced at this stage probably.
Or just minimize her role in the show, there are so many other interesting characters and storylines in the show, just focus on them.
How does Sauron back and forth gaslight Celebrimbor without him noticing? It's so crazy. He made him worry about telling the high king the truth and then destablizes his authority by making him feel guilty of it. Like holy shit, it was his idea.
because....reasons? the writing is atrocious.
@@Adam-xg1ch No cause Sauron is an hypnotic, magical being like Eric said.
@@jonte2343 again, because the writing is atrocious. no matter what happens they can just say "ohhh because sauron was manipulating blah blah blah"
@@Adam-xg1chthat’s literally what Sauron’s character in the books is though; he’s a deceiver and manipulator. His power was never about physical strength 🤷
@@Adam-xg1chwhy do so many Americans like yourself try and hold nonsensical opinions about English media you were ever directly raised with or around?
Took an instant dislike for the daughter as well, even more so now!
im loving the series but maybe its because i did media but for me that will go down as one of the worst endings to an epiosde i have ever seen. not even blaming actors or filming as such but the storyline was soo pointless. yes we needed that interaction where addar tells galadriel about the common enemy, but we already knew that convo was to happen so to end two episodes in a row basically identical is incredibly dumb they showed the recap to just re show a similar ending at the end for 2 minutes honestly i love the show but that will go down for me as one of the most unimportant endings i have ever seen
Season 2 Is Better Than Season 1 And Episode 1, 2 & 5 Are Best Episodes Of Season 2. But There Are Still Problems Like The Human (Numenor & Southlands), The Wizard And The Orcs Storylines Are Boring, The Best Aspect Of The Show Are Sauron, The Elves And The Dwarves Whenever There Is Sauron, Celebrimbor, King Durin, Prince Durin, Disa, Elrond, Gil Galad On The Screen It Suddenly Becomes Interesting. Even In The Silmarillion The MVP Of Second Age Are Sauron, The Rings Of Power And The Elves Specifically Celebrimbor So Whenever In The Show We Get To See Sauron Using His Manipulative And Deceptive Tactics On Celebrimbor, The Story Peaks, The Screenplay Peaks And The Music Peaks...
I'm worried about Celebrían and Celeborn and how they're going to make this character appear. I would theorize that after the fall of Numenor they would disappear with these human characters and there would be a time jump with Galadriel pregnant and Celebrían grown up, but there's still Isildur...so no chance. He'll still age, but not much. Unless Celebrían is already born and Galadriel has left her in a safe place, this could pose a problem in the future if they don't find a good solution.
I-O!
Aaron's thing is a Schick right he's not this obtuse irl?
The Numenor storyline has been horrible, it’s getting hard not to fast forward during each part
Very much dragging the show
While I partially agree, I think that this episode was a step in the right direction. Elendil was great in this episode, as was the queen regent. The overall story there is weak for sure, but the performances of some of the main actors plus the trajectory of Elendil/Isildurs’ characters here is interesting to me considering how we first see them on screen. I have hope still lol
Disagreed.
Strongly disagree. Given that Numenor can't be the primary focus of this season (but probably will be in Season 3), they're still managing to efficiently show key elements of the lore as preparation for when the Numenor eventually becomes the main center of action.
@@tysonchurcher1736 I’m glad that some people are enjoying it. I personally find it to be slow and also feel like the characters are by the far the most uninteresting ones in the show
One of the stronger episodes of this season. Still despise the show, and the Numenorians are awful
what feels a bit cheap to me is that they constantly use quotes from the movies. it feels like copy & paste, I mean they could have used other words for it.
The words they use 'from the movies' are usually from the books this is an adaptation of... which seems the thing to do if you adapt something. ^^
@@sebastian8237 yes but they copy it almost word for word and it sounds a bit lazy
@@sebastian8237except they aren't using the words from the book they are adapting (which they laughably dont have the rights for), but using words from books/movies which take place thousands of years after this show
From the books.
This episode was actually good….until the ending. Every time I get so close to liking this show, it does a 180.
I feel like the ending sets up an interesting plot line. I was hard on some of the show’s weak points in the past (including the previous episode) but I don’t really see the ending as bad until we see what it sets up/leads to
Meh
This show creating an alternate universe would be most welcomed by those of us that don’t like this show…. Might actually help us enjoy it a bit😮
To be fair Amazon sort of hinted this wasn't going to be exactly like the books and more of its own thing that takes place before the movies. Pulling inspiration from random Tolkien things instead. Which in that case, is why i am ok with the show. I just think of it as the "LOTRFranchiseVerse" instead.
Most boring episode ever. At this point I just watch it like a trash TV series and that's fine. But even with that it was so damn boring. Those dialogue are a disgrace to humanity. We don't get to see anything what's happening in the world. Only boring dialogues from the same boring actors with looong meaningful looks covering they basically talk about the same shit all over again :D Cruel white guy numenor Joffrey was my personal highlight
Soooo you hate the show and yet you still watch it?
I don't understand some people 😂
@@katieee1203because it's fascinating to see how badly they make it despite so much money being spent. It reaffirms beliefs to not stay too far away from the source. Like he said watching as trash TV to laugh at how ridiculous it is. It's great for that
@@Alfie-ps6ll Ok sure but you folks want the show gone? You realise you are fighting against your own logic 🤡
@@katieee1203 not really, I watch it on pirate website so gets them now viewership or Money. It's like watching sharnados, u know it's trash but u still watch it. At some point it will lose it's novelty but I'm hoping they can do exciting battles
@@katieee1203 think my comment got deleted. I don't watch it thru Amazon. I watch it on dodgy website so they not getting any money or viewership. I m hoping there will be at least good action sequences which is why I still watch along with how cheesy it is
i hated this episode tbh just depressing af to watch x.x
nothing int his episode to be happy about
not saying the show is bad but it just felt heavy to watch imo
the movies while having very depressing or sad moments still always felt like theres a little bit of positive or hope
@@MrAchsasI do understand, though in fairness….they are not going to succeed in a lot of the paths set up in this series..as we know by the existence of Lord of the Rings 😂. The men being loyal with Elendil was nice, there is some hope there. And I suppose we didn’t have much Elrond or Arondir or Harfoots this episode. So I suppose it’s just a balance of characters and storylines we got the slightly more depressing end. If there’s 8 episode it probably feels about right for episode 5 to be “oh god everything is just getting worse” 😅
@@JeM130177 yeah true it kinda feela like shogun where leading to season final everything took a really depressing turn
And yeah i mean i understand it
But it just doesnt really make fun to watch this stuff at least for me
this show is such thrash, only keeps getting seasons due to people like this lmfao.
And you are still here commenting. I dont ever watch or comment on content I have no interest in. What are you doing here?
no, u
We hate watching this one 🗣️ 🗑️@@mikea3098
I enjoyed it
You should cry more