Is Chrono Cross Worth Playing Today? - SNESdrunk
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Sorry for how bleary the footage looks, it's the best my ancient computer setup can handle. Good game, but a lousy sequel. I have a strong feeling I'm going to get killed for this one. Oh well.
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FYI, it says on the back cover, "The long awaited *sequel*" i.imgur.com/LsfnZBN.jpg
Like most Square RPG's of the PS1 era, it was just "meh". It didn't have the charm of the SNES era games.
I actually dug up and played 'Radical Dreamers'. The SNES Broadcast satellite Chrono Trigger sequel. It made Chrono Cross make more sense, but... I can't really recommend it as a Chrono Trigger game, it's sorta it's own weirdness.
Suffice it to say that Chrono Cross is a sequel to Radical Dreamers, which is a spinoff of Chrono Trigger, not really a sequel.
@@poisonouslead85 i disagree. Thought it was fantastic. I played it before trigger though so didn't have any expectations
I was going to write a long objection to your opinion on chrono cross but it would be way to long. Instead I'm just going to the the story's are interconnected the developers dont treat you like a child. its story, just like xenogears is what makes video game art it uses philosophy and theoretical physics to connect time lines and worlds. Last note an insult the reason Japan didnt want to release RPGs here is they thought we wouldn't be able to appreciate that depth and or criticism of religion, so thanks for your contribution to that (your simple minded)
@@theskull8637 lol poor baby can't handle different opinions
We moved into a new house in 2002 when I was a kid. We were exploring the backyard, and hidden in the bushes was a $20 bill, and Chrono Cross, case artwork and all. I still had my PS1 so I went DEEP on this game.
I think your future self traveled back in time and left that for you.
you didn't live in particular snowy state did you?
@@trevormills3339 why did you leave it there? lol
You found 20 bucks and a game?
@@thalesatreides9566NOO I turned the 69 likes into 70
I appreciate the main plot of Chrono Cross. I love needlessly complex stories. Makes me feel good when I finally figure them out. And if you want to get 100% completion, you'll have to play the game 3 times.
My favorite part about the plot is that basically, Lavos created himself a back up plan, just in case he did get destroyed.
Also, CC is so separated from CT because if they interacted with the CT game, it would screw with the timeline of the game. One of the cool touches in CC is that the El Nido archipelago uses mind control through the Record of Fate to make sure the islanders don't interact with the mainland and screw up the timeline.
But yes... the 45 characters are essentially meaningless as most of them have nothing special about them. I'd easily trade in the novelty of having 45 characters, and cut it down to 12 if those twelve were more compelling and interesting characters.
If I remember right. you don't even figure out the whole Lavos Backup plan and what that sort of means until like the second play through do you?
The nature of how the characters joins your party fits with the theme of the planet perspective. That's why there are dozens of characters, they don't have deep development because in this type of story is unnecessary. Just Serge and Kid are really the main characters, they represent the duality on which the game present the thesis.
The part a lot of people miss is the joy of the variety of characters. Combining the correct groups together open different paths , events and dialogs. Playing with say 2 friends who vs 2 enemies vs 2 characters who are lovers or 2 who are brothers has different interations like being invited to a castle, having to charge a gate, sneak inbehind a VIP, rent a boat, Entering in all undercover. Very open world and non linear is what I like about it. It is more Suikoden /romancing saga then people expect. But definitely I consider it a worthy Chrono Trigger sequel.
I heard that the whole ”Lavos backup plan” was written because of some disagreements between CC and CT teams. Apparently it was a middle finger to the old team which made the events of CT kinda meaningless.
Why the hell are you putting spoilers in this without a warning? This video is literally here as a promotion for people to try out the game who have not yet. This video is for people WHO HAVEN'T PLAYED IT. Of all places to drop spoilers, why this comment section?? At the very least warn people that there are spoilers before you say them, holy shit this is insane. If you liked the game so much why ruin it for people who want to experience it themselves?
This is one of my favorite jrpgs ever. The soundtrack, the dozens of characters, the setting, the soundtrack, the crazy convoluted story, the soundtrack, and the soundtrack.
Got a copy of the game, and like 3 soundtracks.
My bitch gave it to me as a gift you fuckers
Amen to that, the soundtrack is damn awesome. Ze history is good enough for me. I only disliked the dozen of chars, mostly Macha, Korcha and the girl, the masked wrestler man and a few more.
@atariDC_ you forgot about the soundrack!
@@darkprincesmwc9099
Yeah...
BUT HOW ABOUT THAT SOUNDTRACK?!?
Is Chrono Cross worth playing today? Debatable. Is it worth listening to the soundtrack? Abso-fucking-lutely.
True dat.
True but I feel like you're going to appreciate the music more if you played the whole game.
***** Yeah, the music in Terra Tower is pretty epic.
Fuck yah it is mate!
Overworld Theme (Dream of the Shore Near Another World)... Just this song alone makes this game worth playing. I've remembered it since the 90s. Just stopping and listening.
One of Chrono Cross' weaknesses is indeed the ton of characters involved. It's almost like someone on the dev team looked at the Suikoden games and thought "hey, we can do that too!", ignoring that Suikoden managed to get away with it because there was a big central narrative that tied everyone together (meaning you didn't need more than a motivation for those characters to join you).
Thing is I missed CT till later so I actually played CC first, and I really enjoyed it. Music rocked!
Same!
Yep. CC came out when I was getting into video games and so I played that first and wasn't even aware of CT until the early 2000s when I saw it parodied on Newgrounds. I had an SNES too, as did a lot of my friends, but none of us just ever heard of CT for some reason.
The worst thing about Chrono Cross is that the plot elements that do overlap imply that by simply playing the game you've undone everything that was accomplished in Chrono Trigger. Yeah, fuck you hero!
Second worst thing is that the characters were so interchangeable once recruited that the devs literally devised a system to allow them to reuse overlapping dialogue - there was a set tags that were replaced with whatever that character's verbal tic was on display. You would recruit someone and unless they had a specific questline they lost all of their personality.
I did notice some overlapping dialogue in a couple instances but I didn't want to assume that was the case across the board. That's pretty lousy if that's the case
If you understood the plot you would understand that everything crono and the gang did in trigger was in vain. They never killed lavos, hes omnipresent. They only killed him in their reality. Schala knew this and so created a plot along with the help of the remaining sage, belthazar, to truly destroy lavos. Play the game again! Pay attention!
The events of Chrono Trigger aren't undone, the story of Chrono Cross still required those events to occur as they did/will, but it focused heavily on the idea of consequences of the choices you make. Destroying Lavos was a good thing, but even it had untended consequences that played out in Chrono Cross.
Great review, I will note that I think you may have missed the story connection to the original game. It does indeed exist and is a little more than a superficial connection.
It doesn't really become obvious until the end of the game though. Also the ending is a little on the WTF side to be honest. For most of the game, Lavos is the only real connection the player knows about to the original. I mean there are some subtle hints along the way, but that's about it really.
I think the design team wanted to started with a blank page (new world, new characters, etc) and loosely tie it in with the original. In a way they succeeded with that, but it wasn't what people were expecting or hoping for at all. I honestly just enjoyed the game on its own myself, but I went into it knowing that it was loosely based on Radical Dreamers.
Zos Xavius Your assumption about the design process is actually totally wrong, although I can see why u would think that, its a reasonable assumption.
The game was actually originally planned to have a lot more to do with CT, but was changed over time to be more original (u know how much Square hates direct sequels n all that haha). The main character was even originally supposed to be Magus, but then they decided to turn him into a new character (Guile) and reduce his significance (into a side character) while they rewrote the story.
It seems to me that they started with a smaller scope of what the game could be, but then started exploring the possibilities that opened up with the parallel worlds mechanic and kinda went overboard with rewrites to make everything fit
@@zosxavius It was obvious pretty early on...the soldiers from Porre, Kid's pendant, a lot of Guile/Magus' dialogue.
I remember (and it's been 15+ years) Lavos being mentioned and then the short exchange between Chrono, Marle, and Lucca. It seemed like an afterthought to me. I was so disappointed because it didn't bring anything new and fresh to the table. It was like a bread crumb trail to a "thanks for playing" sign. It gained nothing from the minuscule amount of tie-in and created nothing new for me to be excited about. This review is spot on imo.
This game is a material piece. You get the see Crono, Lucca and Marle in the dead sea before a boss fight.
what
@@mikeys167 He prob meant masterpiece
@@TehPwnographer ur a masterpiece
I just could never stand that the connection to Chrono Trigger in Cross was basically undoing most of the happy endings for the characters in Trigger.
Chrono Trigger is one of my favourite games. Finally got around to Chrono Cross.... And oh my goodness, with an open mind.. this game is something special
Chrono Cross holds a very special place in my heart. I ate, slept, and breathed this game for a couple of months one summer. For the time, the graphics were GORGEOUS, and the music still holds up today. The dragging combat, slow exploration, and BAFFLING story or lack thereof keeps me from playing it a second time.
What you call fantastic music I call one of the best soundtracks I’ve ever heard in the video game
A tad redundant, no?
I always look forward to seeing your videos in my sub feed man! Keep up the good work
What makes me love chrono cross is the replayability. The dialogue changes depending on who's with you, and even the route that you take in certain situations. You can play the story having a very different experience in every playthrough.
I beat chrono cross before I even knew chrono trigger existed and I loved it. I feel bad for the people that have that nostalgia weighing down on them that prevented them from fully enjoying it. A few years after I did beat chrono trigger also and I do think it's a great game but compared to cross, well it's no contest for me. Chrono cross easily beats it but I will say that the storyline is quite convoluted in cross. Trigger had its moments of ridiculousness but cross could've benefited from a more grounded story but still, it's one of the best games of all time imo without a doubt. I actually just beat it again today 20 years after the first time. Been wanting to ever since and finally did. Better late than never 😅
I played Trigger before cross came out but i have liked Cross more since I've first played it.. I guess it helped that i viewed cross as a sequel to trigger the same way i viewed Final Fantasy 2 as a sequel to final fantasy 1 so i didn't really have that baggage that so many seem to have.
One of the only games I bought the soundtrack for but couldnt complete the game(probably for the reasons you mention, but it was a long time ago). I'm thankful for the game because its what got me to fall in love with Yasunori Mitsuda.
Hey SNES drunk awesome channel man!!! So glad your doing PS1 games now! Hoping for a Breath of fire 3 review and Castlevainia SOTN review soon! Love those games and love this channel! Keep it up
doakiller666 Breath Of Fire III yes!!
Suikoden has 108 characters.
Eric Moors my favorite game ever :)
Well the second one is!
I was actually about to mention this! While each of the 108 characters don’t directly impact the plot or have significant character development, these games told amazingly powerful, emotional stories despite having an incredibly large cast.
Suikoden is one of my all time favorite series and honestly wish they were still making them.
Yeah but the Suikoden games are good
@@minigmaenigma CC is good. But too many go into it expecting to understand most everything about the game and how to manipulate it from a single playthrough. CC is one of those rare old games... and even rarer RPG's that you don't fully know what's going on until you've played it through at least a couple times because there are additional story elements as you wrap through it again. that was an almost unheard of concept back then and it's stuck into a fairly original 50 to 60 hour run RPG at that.
The intro vid/song still gives me goosebumps.
That's because of the french game that was second in the series. I was confused to until I found the actual sequel. The story from the text based game Radical Dreamers reveals how the original Surge, Kid and a third person breaks into Viper manor to steal the flame believing its in the hands of the evil Lynx. In the end the real Serge dies when he takes Lynx off a cliff.
Kid devastated and being one of Lucca's orphans, Lucca decides to help out. By this point she is the leader of a large science institute and for Kid's sake creates basically a dimensional clone of Serge in the other dimension. The institute itself had dominion of the second dimension in the archipelago for the sake of experimentation. The new Serge was then allowed to grow up, until one day his father and friend got caught in a storm and end up at the other version of the institute, the one that exists in the alternate reality. Serge's father then uses the facility to heal Serge how ever the A.I. seeing Serge as an anomaly seeks to remove him. Serge's father saves his son by sacrificing himself. The A.I. loosing its chance to remove said anomaly creates a version of Lynx, similar to how Lucca created the new Serge, but Lynx took the info he had and went rogue. At first I thought Lynx was the panther incarnate that they show almost killing Serge how ever if you pay close attention its mentioned that the A.I. created something that represented what killed the original Serge. Its odd and vary easy to miss.
Later in the normal world the soldiers of Viper manor seek out the frozen flame like their original leader before them and eventually come to the original facility. There the flame exists in both worlds like the A.I. as both of them kept the facility tethered to both sides. One as the energy source and the other the controller. How ever it goes wrong for them when and the facility goes critical destroying it.
Mean while, Kid tired of being an observer drew Surge into the first dimension starting the game. (Lucca gave her creation "Serge" the ability to freely cross over between both dimensions, this is why Lynx needed his body. In my opinion this event is why the game is called Chrono Cross. As both characters are intertwined between dimensions and time.)
This is why the A.I. wants to get rid of Surge when you get to that point in the game, this is why Lynx needed to steal Surges body and the links between the first and third game. A good hint is how Robo from the first game was actually incorporated into the A.I. as insurance by Lucca.
I think this was a crappy way of doing it. They should have dropped the second barely known title before creating this game because its more of a sequel to Radical Dreamers than it is Chrono Trigger.
I imagine CC as a "what if..." showing just one of the alternatives thats the cast of CT created after defeating lavos time after time.
Lucca had a science institute? Lucca created a clone of Schala??? What are you talking about? that was Balthazar, Lucca only had an orphanage
Atlusfox How did you get all that from radical dreamers? I dont think so. It seems like you made a lot of shit up. Lucca “creating” another serge? Nah that’s not confirmed anywhere.
All this fan theorist making up bullshit
I'm so glad you said it, this game is VERY convoluted. With all the characters and story details I lost track of what was even going on and eventually gave up on this game.
Chrono trigger and Chrono Cross are both beloved and timeless classics for me.
You should start these PS1 videos with "PSSSSSS Drunk" it'll sound like piss drunk lol
I'M WITH YOU
PLEASE DO THIS
Yes please 🤣
This game’s intro video is indeed one of the best made to its time. I must have watched that video dozens of times, I listened to the music from it when working out, even. It is an absolutely amazing intro video for its time
My favorite part is when you beat the game you get the Speed Egg, which really helps if you have desires to keep playing.
Chrono Cross is actually a very difficult game to review. It's easy to fall into the trap of evaluating it like every other RPG, separating out the separate elements, but this game is quite different.
Remember that Square Enix doesn't really do the whole sequel thing. Final Fantasy is not a series of sequels, nor was the Mana series. With a Square game of the '90s you gain much more from the experience by putting in a little thought. A game's value is in the questions the game asks of the player, and this game has some serious questions to ask. The question the Chrono series is asking is: What is the relationship between information and heroism?
In Chrono Trigger, before you embarked on any part of the adventure, you had all the information you needed to feel like you were the hero of the story. Rescue princess? Check. Rigged court trial? Check. Rescue the world? Check. In every action you were justified, for you knew you were the hero of the story. Even when you died, you died a hero. And when your friends rescued you from death, you got the hero's welcome. This is the story of the high-information hero.
Enter Chrono Cross. One of the first cut scenes you see is you murdering someone. Then you go killing innocent animals for a necklace for your girlfriend. Then you are wisked away to another land. You rescue Kid (or not), and find out she's more street rat than princess. Then, to save her life, you must destroy an entire ecosystem. Later on, you take on the villain's body. You know you are not a villain, but you aren't really a hero, and your actions are certainly not seen as heroic. You just play on, learning more, advancing the story, exploring the beautiful world set to an exquisite score. You are not a hero, yet you make friends and get help along your journey. It isn't until the end of the game, where you finally get a clue for what you have been doing this whole time, that you feel like you've been doing heroic things. This is the other side of the Chrono Trigger coin, the story of the low-information hero.
I thought Chrono Trigger was an OK game, but I loved Chrono Cross.
Beautifully put
Yes. I love both games and actually hated Chrono Cross at first. The Final Fantasy sequels, although not connected, still blended elements of the previous sequel while CC put a baseball bat to Trigger and started from scratch from its pace to the music to the way the story was told. When I got over that it was not Chrono Trigger, I started to really get into it. You wanted to see the differences between worlds, you wanted to see everything. The story was more puzzley which can be frustrating at first and some of the characters are annoying, but, it did feel that you embarked on a different type of adventure especially if you are like me, who played every RPG imaginable. Chrono Trigger was that fun fast beautiful car you drove, while Chrono Cross was that delicate machine that had a feel and let you be in the moment.
I'd argue that Cross is indeed a sequel, just not a direct one.
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The story was originally supposed to star Magus (Guile) while he looked for Schala, so from the beginning of development it was meant to be a sequel. They just felt that going that route wouldn't give Magus the justice he deserved so they changed him into Guile and just made him a normal side-character. Magus was also a character in Radical Dreamers.
Then there's Prometheus (Robo) who has arguably suffered from the events of Chrono Cross more than Magus has. He was placed inside of FATE by Lucca and Belthasar with the sole purpose of starting a rebellion when Serge showed up as The Arbiter, only to be destroyed by FATE the moment Surge arrived. Lucca, Belthasar and Robo have GIGANTIC roles in Chrono Cross. This is why Lynx was after her and wanted her dead. If not for their actions, the game wouldn't have even existed. But yeah, not a sequel :3
while this may be true, they could have done without them and made other people the reason for it and it would have stood as a good game on its own.
iirc, what they did though.. .this isn't another world, this is a small part of CT's world, remnants of Lavos and the magical kingdom. That's why all this shit happens. CT was about time, CC is about dimensions.
CT what you did in the past affected the future
CC you live to see the consequences of actions by others, and yourself in other dimensions.
I think of them as sequels moreso because they both tackle that theme.
Another useful life skill to acquire is the knowledge that time isn't a thing that exists, and can't be manipulated. Time is simply a measurement from event A to event B just as a mile is the measurement from point A to point B. You can't manipulate a mile to be anything other than a measurement of 5,280 feet which is a measurement of 63,360 inches. Time is merely a rhythmic pulse used to measure how long it takes for events to occur. It's just a fun fantasy to imagine time being a thing that can be manipulated and "traveled", and what the consequences might be.
Before anyone says, "But it's proven that time moves faster in space!". Not true. What is happening in space is mass being subjected to less gravity, allowing atoms move faster. You "age" faster in less gravity because your atoms are moving faster ... Hence "aging" more rapidly. Time isn't moving faster. Just your mass. GPS satellites had to be re-calibrated because they measure the decay of a carbon atom for precision. Well, being subjected to less gravity means that decay takes less time, and that fact had to be compensated for to make GPS systems accurate. A measurement of 1 second is still 1 second no matter the circumstance.
I'm not gonna go through all these comments, but I just want to point out that while the bulk of the game seemingly has nothing to do with chrono trigger, it's only at the end of the game do all the dots connect. If you got the chrono cross and get the true ending of the game, it's pretty much made apparent that the current world you're in is a direct result of Lavos messing with time and space, and that your whole adventure was engineered by the main protagonists of CT (Chrono, Lucca and Marle) and that Kid is essentially the daughter of Schala. The big loose end of CT. The whole point of the game, as it turns out, was to save Schala.
THIS
There were a lot of dots to connect pretty early on in the game too...Guile, for one...dude was obviously Magus with a mask on if anyone was familiar with the character in the slightest, and the soldiers from Porre clearly establish that it is indeed the same world.
It's the sequel to a visual novel that has nothing to do with Chrono Trigger. They shoehorned the plot shit in, and it blows.
I love this game! It came out whenever I was a teen. Brings me back so many memories.
Thanks for reviewing this. I've been wanting to try this game again, but wasn't sure if it was worth revisiting. I actually never finished it because the rental copy I had was too damaged to get past long cut scenes.
2020, I just beat it. Love it.
How I can play that game in pc ???
@@babiskotrokois6181
Emulator.
The music is so tied to Chrono trigger because it's the same composer, Yasunori Mitsuda. He also composed xenogears music
Being a kid who played both as they came out, this is like asking me which I love more: The house's puppy or the house's kitty. I love them both for completely different reasons.
Yet I do remember, as a kid, getting more involved in Cross world more. Maybe it's because I never got into the whole "time traveling" bit, but the idea of multiple dimensions always spoke to me more for some reason.
This is what got me started on RPGs! One of my all time favorites.
The intro had me so hyped to play this game. I realized about a third of the way in that it just wasn't going to live up to it.
Years later and I'm still waiting on a follow up this series...
I love your videos! More RPG reviews please!
I'm glad I played this game because, at the time, I enjoyed it, and now I can listen to the soundtrack with nostalgic ears.
Me too...
SNES Drunk, been a big fan of your vids for over a year now. This has to be the MOST balanced review I've seen about this game. I still own my original copy of CT I picked up in 1995 at Walmart and absolutely love that game, I don't care for the PS1 version as much (the anime is cool, but takes away from the ending with the epilogue scene)
Now onto CC, I bought it on release in 99-00 whenever it came out. I still haven't beaten it to this day. The reason: you nailed it in your review, "if you were expecting the sequel to CT, prepare to be disappointed" ...I was. The thing no one ever seems to cover though is this game is actually the Super Famicom satellaview game Radical Dreamers. The only difference is some JPN producer at Squaresoft was like hey I got this game over here that's story is kind of like CT, can we use it in a new PS1 game that we can call Chrono something or other....their first mistake. And made the big budget PS1 version...mistake two.
Anyway I've complained for years about the game and this isn't the place and I'm tired of wasting time on why I didn't care for it. Too many characters, too confusing plot, crazy battle system, no true leveling up, pretty much everything you mentioned.
So last comment, the reason why the music seemed so similar to CT is because Yasunori Mitsuda came back and did the OST for this game as well, so it would share some thematic elements with the first game is because he composed this game as well. So that makes perfect sense.
Anyway loved the video and all of the others, keep'em coming and Happy Thanksgiving. Cheers.
gamesmaster5555 you didnt like everything great about it.
this is the first jrpg i ever played. i played up till the body change and had to return the rental and never played again. ill go back one day.
Been playing through it all over again, trying to collect more characters. Nothing can beat 90s (and early 00s) RPGs, especially SNES and PS1 games. Those were golden years man.
Wow Snes Drunk,you're on fire now. :D,also could we have PS Drunk too? :D
I'd love some PS1 / 2 game recommendations! I just dusted off my old PS2 and have been playing Star Ocean
+Sebastian Rodriguez great,i grew up playing. ps1/2 so iam also looking foward for it.^^
I love crono cross and admittedly I never got to play CT on the SNES as a kid so when I found out CC was set in the same world from all the elements of it I sort out a copy on the PS1.
The beauty behind this game besides being it's own unique game not to be compared to it's predecessor it takes a different angle. Chrono trigger was all about time travel and changing events in history. Chrono cross focused on two parallel worlds that resulted from changing an event in time (Surges death) and how this butterfly effect made the people and their doppelgangers different from each other.
I'm sure plenty will disagree with me, but I think Cross has the best combat system of any turn-based PS1 JRPG. I didn't care about the story much, which is usually the death knell for me with any JRPG, but I just loved the battles so much. It felt so good to get the field element just where you need it and to plan out your moves and so on and so forth.
I love that game for the gameplay alone.
great video, and I agree w your thoughts on the music. I never picked this game up but I have listened to the soundtrack numerous times on RUclips. Chrono Trigger also obviously had some great music.
I thought the story was way too convoluted and didn't reveal itself until the last minute, and all at once.
Thanks for the vid, quality everytime
Yeah, the music is some of the best ever made for a game. EVER.
Love these PS1 reviews, especially because you're playing them without the nostalgia feelings. I have some of these rpg's I need to get into eventually which I didn't play when I was younger, so this is just plain perfect! Thank you!
Amazing video, man! Thanks!
The backgrounds of this game look great, kinda reminiscent of The Legend of Dragoon's, which is an awesome game. Do you plan on reviewing it someday?
I'd love to someday but it's too time consuming. This and FF7 were my summer projects so they're kind of one-time deals
I hear you. I can't play JRPGs all that much anymore either due to the same problem. I recommended LoD as it's a special game to me yet it's a 4 disc game so... yeah X). Keep it in your to-play list though, you'd enjoy it. Curious about what you would have to say too. Keep up the good work!
also, Chrono Cross absolutely takes place in the same world as CT, just in a sectioned off part of it that's prevented from interacting with the outside of the El Nido archipelago by FATE. It absolutely IS a sequel to CT, even though on the surface it doesn't appear to be. You have to dig a little deeper and read some stuff, but trust me, it's there. It's not a perfect game, but it's perfect to me.
It's definitely not an in your face hand holder when it comes to all the story elements and ties like so many. Which is fitting to follow up CT. Which had a bunch of hidden story elements itself and kind of needed multiple playthroughs to see it all as well.
I remember reading somewhere at some point that this whole game was somewhat centered around magus (guile) but the devs decided a direct sequel featuring a character many new players wouldn't understand the backstory of would be a bad idea. So they turned one of the best characters ever, ever into a..a crono cross character..
Amazing video!!!
I got lost very easily in this game. Thanks for the vid, and mentioning long chain attacks. Reminds me of legend of legaia in that regard.
I love this game and have been meaning to do another playthrough. It has been along time.
I love how these are short enough to keep my attention
I hate that they have to end
Replaying it as an adult, I don't think a single PS1 (or ps2 or ps3 for that matter) game conveyed an aesthetic as beautifully as Chrono Cross. Even if the literal story may be iffy, the entire mood the game conveys is more important in this case.
Great video! I must agree with you on almost all fronts, except one: the story.
While I do agree that the story is way too convoluted, I must disagree in regards to the ending. [SPOILERS AHEAD FOR THOSE WHO'VE NOT PLAYED IT] I too got lost in the story, but once we get to focus on FATE being the main antagonist, I feel like things get way more streamlined and interesting. The journey to reach Chronopolis is filled with tension, the plot twist involving the dragons, after you defeat FATE did genuinely surprise me (which was a rarity in video games, back at that time), and damn if the battle against the Dragon God wasn't one of the best boss battles (in terms of soundtrack and ambience) I've ever experienced, up there with it's predecessor's battle against Magus or Lavos.
I would suggest that the reason that used the word element is because it resembles a periodic table of elements when you allocate elements but anyway yeah I freaking love this game your channel is giving me so much nostalgia and really soothing the wounds of this year
So I remember waiting on dial up to watch the first preview of the game, and being more excited than ever and more excited than after about a game coming out. And I was not let down.
Great idea for a series, sometimes it is hard to revisit old RPGs because you get too used to the conveniences of modern RPGs. Looks like a beautiful game, I really want to make time to play it someday.
Well and some of his complaints about the mechanical system are really more early game problems than they are late game problems. But that's typical of main games and many rpg's.
It's also worth noting that once you beat the game you get a fast forward function for every game after it. It's one of the top buttons on the controller and believe me, it makes life easier when playing this game.
If u ask me, this game’s soundtrack easily stands toe to toe with Castlevania Symphony of the Night
I'd die on that hill too.
Chrono Cross is amazing because it's not just a sequel. Yes, the story is convoluted, but sorting out all the craziness and making sense of a complicated story like this is what makes it worth the play. And yes, the story makes sense when you spend time reflecting on it. The roster of recruitable characters is one of its strengths, allowing for a large array of team composition, even if certain choices come down to aesthetic. Recruiting Guile, for instance, has become an almost must for me because of how bad ass Serge, Guile, and Mojo look breaking into Viper manor. These character choices add flavor to the chosen story paths and make playing through the game more than once extremely rewarding.
In short, I am a huge fan of Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross. When it comes down to it, Chrono Trigger is, as you put it, more streamlined, but it's the complexity of Chrono Cross that has lead me to place it above Chrono Trigger in terms of favorite RPGs.
One of my all time favorites, love that game
Oh man, this game was everything thats amazing in 1 game.
Lynx calls Serge a Chrono Trigger. He's also referred to as such by the computer system when he reaches Chronopolis.
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The first time I played Chrono Trigger, I was hooked within the first 10 minutes.
I recently got the remaster of Chrono Cross for Christmas, and it’s kinda decent, but nowhere near as good as its predecessor.
Yes it is Worth. I have played it 3 Times. And I still find secrets xD
I would love to see a Suikoden II video! I've heard so many good things about it from my friend, but have never played it.
I'll admit I had to do some research to truly understand the story. But holy crap once the light bulb came on and everything story-wise clicked (especially with Trigger's involvement), my mind was blown.
I definitely agree the music is the best part here.
reyco1987 Yeah. I got into this a lot when it first came out and was able to ascertain what was happening without outside stuff, so maybe that is why I love it so much. But it is truly a fantastic sequel and has a great many ties to CC. it just isn't the regular fanfare of beating your face into the sequel *cough*lightningreturns*cough*
First of the two i played, after watching my brother play Chrono Trigger. Still one of my favorites out there.
5:30 “There are some Lynx to Chrono Trigger…” I see what you did there!
I like them both, but I think I grew to like Cross better for not hoping it was gonna be Trigger v.2. The ties between the two games are displayed on different ocasions, and many of them will likely go unnoticed; in my opinion it seemed like a development decision to not outright point them out, and instead present the plot as if it was an independent game altogether, but both games are certainly heavily connected. And yes, the soundtrack is a precious gem, as is the colorful art used to create the mood; the Frozen Flame piece never leaves my playlist.
Also just found out your channel and wanted to say: congratulations and keep up the great work! This is quality stuff, and I'm always happy to find people who produce content from the SNES era. All the best on your project!
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Man I need to go back and play this again. I haven't played this in so long. Don't you eventually get magus on you team and he goes by Janus? I love this game even though I'm looking through nostalgia eyes. One of my fav RPGs on the system
I have a distinct memory of my brother playing this game when my hands weren't even big enough to hold a controller well. I remember cut scenes, scenarios, the music I remember really well too, character designs etc I just can't remember the story because I couldn't read at the time. Come this year and I talked about it to him and he told me he never actually played Chrono Cross.
I guess my brother from another dimension did. I must have switched dimensions somehow :T
While I agree this is not a great sequel. I believe somewhere in the game they do mention that the archipelago that the game takes place in is one of the islands/parts of the overworld from Chrono Trigger. They even mention war and what not that took place in Chrono Trigger around this time as well. I haven't played and beaten CC but a handful of times so I am a bit fuzzy in where they mention this, so I may have to play it again.
GamerEX Yeah. One of the places is straight up the ruins of Leene Square. there are a LOT of ties to Chrono Trigger, and it is nowhere near as bad as SNES Drunk made it sound.
Actually, CC's world technically does not exist in Trigger as we know it. It's a separate dimension from Trigger that exists after Lavos is defeated in Trigger with more background time traveling... it's confusing to explain everything.
But there is a reason why the continent in CC is not in CT.
@@seacliff217 it does and does not exist at the same time in the CT world. it's part of the world but it's affected by aftermath of the time traveling done in crono trigger and a couple different things happened to seal it off and a bit of other stuff. But it is actually in CT's world by technicality... Though in the future after the events of CT and the world not being ended by Lavos but paying for that adventure in different ways. There is a presumption that there may be other parts of the overall world suffering from similar or different effects while some parts are entirely unaffected by time travel issues.
I love Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross!
The Crono Cross soundtrack is fuckin amazing, the graphics are also nice to look at.
I played Chrono Cross first than CT., Chrono Cross is a good game within the standards of Square RPGs of the time weighed mostly down by gimmick of a large cast of recruitable characters (I have a vague memory that the large cast was a selling point or something, thus a gimmick) since this causes character development to take a hit. The story is a "mess" I guess, but to some extent one could say the same for FF8, FF9, etc (and I enjoyed FF9, mess or not). All in all, I think CC is a pretty good if not great game among its contemporary. CT however, just feel perfect within the category of 16-bit RPGs. Streamlined, very well done, very entertaining, having ATB instead of turn-base makes sense here, etc etc. An ideal for 2d/16bit RPGs to strive for.
Chrono Trigger is my favorite game ever. Could never get into Crono Cross though. Never even ever finished it.
I think this game is really interesting. I’ve never played it, but I know one interesting fact. It uses a 480i/576i title screen and menus, and 240p/288p gameplay. This transition is seamless on a CRT TV, but on a modern screen or upscaler, there is a significant dropout before the video sync signal adjusts. However, if you use a crappy upscaler or bad TV, the switch will be seamless, because the scaler or TV simply doesn’t know what 240p/288p is and instead just assumed it’s 480i/576i, and tries to deinterlace it. You get significantly reduced picture quality, but no sync dropout. Or you can just use a CRT like a normal person.
Elemental Elements... the best kind of elements.
I've played through this game nearly as many times as Chrono Trigger, and I feel the appreciation for it grows with every playthrough.
Kid's origin, the true origin of Lynx, the actual legit tie-in to Chrono Trigger are all buried deep under layers of gameplay.
It is a direct sequel, in the sense that the events of Cross were directly caused by the heroes in Trigger stopping Lavos and saving the world. If you're looking for a game with the same characters and same world, this isn't it. But it is a direct follow-up in a different vain. The handheld tie-in "Radical Dreamers" is a good gap filler for anyone trying to understand some of the references.
i gotta play this again. i didnt finish on the first go around, the back and forth story was a little confusing, but the game had awesome artstyle and cool characters
I always thought the very last note of the intro theme sounded like something from Riverdance.
watched the whole review, great job, well summerised. A clumsy story with too little character development. I wish that Surge - Leena stuff at the beginning actually went somewhere.... but Leena just joins your party and nothing more happens with their friendship.
Yeah, I agree! Thats a huge disappointment right there. They really dropped the ball on the potential of that relationship :/
I mean the game's main romance is Serge/Kid, considering the ending has a picture of a timeline where Serge and Kid are married.
Though... They dropped the ball on that relationship, too. I mean, there was no hint of anything romantic before that aforementioned picture at the end of the ending...
And that would be a resounding yes!!! 👍 great classic
Great stuff once again! FF7 and CC in back to back days, you've been busy!
Started FF7 back in April or so, CC in August. These have been done for a while, I just like having big projects going so I have something to post on Thanksgiving break
Are you similarly stocked for Christmas? :)
Not really, but there will be two big Super Famicom videos in December
playing many rpgs from old games until today high graphic games, only Chrono Cross gives deep impact to me...something about it that melancholy and nostalgic that keeps u reminiscing about the game...
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Chrono Trigger might be my favorite video game ever, or at least in the top five. This may sound dumb but one big reason why I didn’t even bother with CC was the look and design of it. I think I had gotten more into PC games at the time and I always thought CC’s graphics looked absolutely terrible. It may have had older tech, but CT is absolutely gorgeous. There really is something to be said about the feel and overall atmosphere of the 16 bit era RPGs.
Chrono Cross is a sequel based upon the effects of Crono and co's time travel. After they kill Lavos in 1999, an alternate future occours, and at the same time, a paradox is created (which is localized in the Dead Sea). In the new future, in 2400 AD, the Time Crash forces Chronopolis to travel back to around 10000BC. Then all of the events with FATE, Lavos - Frozen Flame, Serge, and Kid/Schala occour. Eventually, the Chrono Cross is used to fix all of the tears in the fabric of space and time created in CT.
I loved chrono cross. I hadn't played trigger before hand. But this game was such breath of fresh air. So many great memories.
I'm actually glad this game isn't a direct sequel to Chrono Trigger. It makes each respective game more stand-alone unique.
I'm glad you didn't understate just how good the music in this game is...
What's funny is, I played through both Chrono Trigger and Cross and never once thought that it might NOT be a sequel. Then again, I generally ignore all text or story in games unless it is telling me what to do next. Both were excellent games.
This is one of the few Square games from this era that I remember playing and loving at the time, that also got like EXCEPTIONAL ratings (10/10 in EGM which never happened), but couldn't tell you a thing about it these days. I don't remember anything from it, at all.
I was born in 1999, and I can attest to having thoroughly enjoyed most of the "greats" that predate me, in their original forms, no less! I first played the SNES version of CHRONO TRIGGER via the Wii Virtual Console in 2016, and received a DS copy for Christmas that same year. It would seem few other videogame players my age are even aware of these gems.
"What a sad state of affairs..." -Melchior, CHRONO TRIGGER