You don’t know EQ plugins until you have heard this one!

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  • Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024

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  • @whitenoisestudio
    @whitenoisestudio  Год назад +4

    What is your favorite EQ this year?

    • @brokbeatz
      @brokbeatz Год назад

      I swear this baby is amazing but Pulsar Modular P440 is not from this world 🙏

    • @blackorangegraphite
      @blackorangegraphite Год назад

      Acustica Audio Gold Equalizer

    • @teddynovacks
      @teddynovacks Год назад +1

      @@blackorangegraphite Acustica's Green is modelled on this Eq unit, so a shootout between them would make more sense to me..

    • @elequentum
      @elequentum Год назад

      dspplug boardstation every year. graphic equalizers for the win

    • @patriziomameli9812
      @patriziomameli9812 Год назад

      Acustica's green...Kirchhoff...

  • @briancase6180
    @briancase6180 Год назад +4

    The TDR Nova dynamic EQ (which can be operated in non-dynamic mode) also does parallel EQ (the bands are not in series).

  • @matthewgray713
    @matthewgray713 Год назад +2

    @White Noise Studio Just a tip when analyzing aliasing in Plugin Dr, you'll want to make sure the plugin output isn't clipping, so lower the gain of the signal feeding it from PD and also 400Hz won't show you aliasing, you need to be up closer to nyquist to see the aliasing harmonics bouncing back down.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад

      400 hz works perfectly fine as long as it hits the nyquest frequency in the end and feeds back. Closer to that frequency is obviously easier, but for full frequency display lower works excellent.

  • @RayTheProducer
    @RayTheProducer 2 месяца назад

    Love this, and your videos. This is the spiritual successor to my beloved Air EQ (I wrote the manual for that). To have the EQ they used on Thriller. Yum!

  • @pablodelayave1931
    @pablodelayave1931 Год назад +1

    Fabfilter and pulsar audio are pretty much my top brands for digital eqs and compresors

  • @DrMax0
    @DrMax0 Год назад +8

    It would by interesting to listen to TDR Nova in comparison, because it is also a parallel EQ. There is even an EQ out there where can be switched between serial and parallel: IIEQ from DDMF.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад

      It absolutely would make sense, the ameks of plugin alliance are parallel as well.
      DDMF always makes plugins which are clever.

    • @gh0stransist0r
      @gh0stransist0r Год назад +2

      Equilibrium too, parallel/serial choice and even 8200 modeled curves.

  • @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579
    @DeltaWhiskeyBravo13579 5 месяцев назад

    The Pulsar Audio 8200 sits on my 2 bus, running mid side. Adding small corrections with it. Added features like De-esser, tilt, sub, air, and the M/S ability make it great for me. It expands the usefulness.
    I have almost every Pulsar Audio plug-in, and they've not let me down in quality.
    I did have to put Mu on the shelf as I got the UAD Manley Vari-Mu on sale.

  • @teddym2808
    @teddym2808 Месяц назад +1

    Sorry but they need take it beyond the hardware and offer things like steeper cut filters and frequency solo, especially for 150 bucks. The analog style interface with every knob at a glance would actually make it a great every day EQ but it needs more features.

  • @danepaulstewart8464
    @danepaulstewart8464 Год назад +1

    🧐 One would not think that EQ plug-ins would still be “a thing” anymore, yet somehow developers are indeed finding a way to create things that actually justify the effort. Fascinating. 🤷‍♂️

  • @eklipseRomania
    @eklipseRomania Год назад +3

    Eiosis AirEQ Premium has the option to label frequency however it looks like Pulsar 8200 is more affordable, better looking and has more functionalities. I already own two of their plugins and maybe this will be the third 🤞

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад

      Th eAirEQ is also with the Slate subscription for those who are interested. Thanks for mentioning that one! But i don't think it's a parallel eq, right?

    • @eklipseRomania
      @eklipseRomania Год назад

      @@whitenoisestudio it's not

  • @clivehunte3026
    @clivehunte3026 Год назад +1

    Just bought Kirchoff Eq last week, no more room at the Inn for this fella

  • @michaelmos7497
    @michaelmos7497 Год назад +3

    🍀🎶
    Every few days a new "Non plus ultra" plugin comes onto the market along with a "nicely laid out" RUclips tutorial.
    Most of us, for whom home recording is "just" a very committed hobby, easily fall into the belief that this or that new "super plugin" will take our music or production to another level. But that works basically also with the stock plugins of Cubase Pro.
    I suspect that most users underestimate Cubase Pro plugins or, lacking the necessary know-how, do not know how to use these plugins "correctly". But hope for this through the plugins from third parties. I now see it with a "healthy distance". Quite apart from that: In no time at all you have 500 or more plugins on your SSD - and which plugins do you really use?! Maybe a tenth. Or? 😅

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад +2

      This is plugin 1401 on my system ;-)
      You are absolutely right. It's very easy to get FOMO with all these new plugins. You do need some distance and keep a clear head and know what you use and why.
      That said, I also think it's very OK to learn about the latest and newest, otherwise I wouldn't have started this channel at all.
      But you don't need those to get work done for sure.

    • @michaelmos7497
      @michaelmos7497 Год назад

      @@whitenoisestudio Thank you, that's right, I understand you and your vision, your intention.🍀🎶

  • @hleet
    @hleet Год назад

    Really nice comparison !

  • @dayzaudio
    @dayzaudio 10 месяцев назад

    Great stuff - thanks for this one... subscribed, thought I had before...!

    • @dayzaudio
      @dayzaudio 10 месяцев назад

      the GML 8200 was such a staple in studios back in the 90s when I got started, I didn't know it at the time as a green assistant...

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  10 месяцев назад

      Yeah it has been. Parallel Clean EQ back in the day was quite something.

  • @taviqmasteringonline2754
    @taviqmasteringonline2754 Год назад +1

    I wouldn't say that this EQ has more detail/focus. If you look under the hood you will see that this plugin has a natural hi pass cut already set in the algorithm at around 20hz. This is a hard-coded cut therefore it gives the illusion that it is sharper in detail/focus. The other EQs are leaving simply leaving the low-end untouched which is fooling our perception of the high-end. Much respect though because it would take some level of great ears to notice the difference in the first place.
    I dare say, that if you had matches the soft hi pass filter along with the Bell EQ curves for your illustration, the EQs would fairly sound more or less the same (regarding detail/focus).
    In my honest opinion, for specific reasons), I think it's the perfect EQ for bass synth or bass guitar tracks (if you are looking for a cleaner sound). It's pretty amazing as a cleaner all-arounder mono EQ where you would be cutting the lows anyway.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад

      No the detail some from the parallel
      Vs serial eq. That’s what I point out in the video.

    • @taviqmasteringonline2754
      @taviqmasteringonline2754 Год назад

      ​@@whitenoisestudio I do understand that three plugins are coded to process definitely and I'm not trying to be argumentative at all. I have have high regard and much respect for your Channel. Thank you for replying back by the way!!!
      All I am saying is that you can match the 🔔 curves & gain to be exact; which would put you at deviating gains and Q's of either EQ to get an exact match, 8200 will always sound sharper & more focused because it has a hard-coded high pass in its permanent EQ curve. The other two EQs used in this demonstration do not have this same hard-coded high pass cut. Therefore, no matter how much you match the 🔔s gain & Q of any EQ, they will always sound flabby compared to 8200; unless you incorporate a high-pass filter to match the hard-coded EQ curve 8200 on the EQ you are comparing. This is simply because the other EQs are leaving the low end untouched.
      Bertom or Plugin Doctor will show you this.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад

      I don't mind a little talk about this at all :-) I won't argue the hardcoded highpass of the 8200, it's below 20Hz.
      But my point is, that even if you match eq curves, there will also be the difference between having eq in series or in parallel. The way those are summed is different which causes different behavior and with that a different sound. With a regular serial eq, each eq band will influence the other band to an extent. With a parallel eq, they do not.
      You can hear that in action on the synths I showed, they do not have anything going below basically 50 or even 80hz.
      And I fully agree that this EQ will be great on bass instruments, even in mastering.

    • @taviqmasteringonline2754
      @taviqmasteringonline2754 Год назад

      @@whitenoisestudio I totally get it. However, I think you would get just about the same results or affect regarding focus and sharpness, if you compare the two serial EQs, and engaged a low pass filter at its lowest setting (say around 10 to 15hz) 6-18dB Octave, and then A/B the differences.

    • @cornoc
      @cornoc Год назад

      I'm a little skeptical that you can hear below 20 Hz, with your monitoring setup and with your ears.

  • @dna598
    @dna598 Год назад +1

    Good review man

  • @m.gunturkurniawan8085
    @m.gunturkurniawan8085 Год назад +12

    kirchhoff is the King 🕺💃

    • @patriziomameli9812
      @patriziomameli9812 Год назад +1

      Kinda true..

    • @DeRaNgEdOfficial
      @DeRaNgEdOfficial Год назад +1

      I haven't tried it yet but I've been waiting for a discount price. But I love Amek 200, 250. Sontec 432, Soma, Massive. Do I need another? Yes, I think so 😅😅😅

    • @adithyasatheesh127
      @adithyasatheesh127 Год назад +2

      Nope. There's a reason why everything is compared to fabfilter pro-q. Just copying the interface and adding a few more analog curves won't cut it.

  • @DeRaNgEdOfficial
    @DeRaNgEdOfficial Год назад

    $59 loyalty offer yeah it is worth it. SMASHER!

  • @diegofouche
    @diegofouche 5 месяцев назад

    I love that song push me away what remix is this one?

  • @russellandrady
    @russellandrady Год назад +2

    How about the cpu usage?

  • @Zenvo-uu9tm
    @Zenvo-uu9tm Год назад +1

    6:49 Eiosis Air Eq

  • @erkamau9629
    @erkamau9629 Год назад +3

    The most important compare Is with Amek 250 and 200, birn as clone of gml8200 and its hw clone by Sontec

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад +1

      Yeah probably. Wasn’t the intention of this video.

    • @VinceJackson1
      @VinceJackson1 Год назад

      Dirk Ulrich stated that the Amek 200 is inspired by his own 8200 but not a 1:1 emulation! Tonight I'm gonna use bertom eq curve analyzer to create the same exact curve with all three Eq's to see if this is worth buying for me. Also gonna add Acustica Audio Green to the list as well.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад +1

      The big ''issue'' with the Mmek 200/250 is the TMT they have on it. It really randomizes curve shapes, the actual frequency ( !), and q width. I did a shootout between the 200 and 250 and could get eq curves so close that they as well could have been 1 plugin instead of 2.

    • @Rhuggins
      @Rhuggins Год назад

      @@whitenoisestudio also came to the same conclusion. Harmonics are also the same. Not sure why they are two plugins- probably for $$

  • @jorgengerstel
    @jorgengerstel Год назад

    Great plugin 🙂

  • @Orderftw782
    @Orderftw782 Год назад +1

    Hey man please I beg u make a tutorial on the exact vocal mixing chain used in this video. I can’t explain u this is that electronic sound That Im trying to achieve from years but can’t. 🙏

  • @matthewgray713
    @matthewgray713 Год назад

    @White Noise Studio how did you match the settings between each EQ? Was it by values only or did you match the curves and gain in Plugin Dr?

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад

      It’s not about matching but showing the differences between parallel and serial eq in this video.

    • @matthewgray713
      @matthewgray713 Год назад +1

      @@whitenoisestudio I get that but how can you be sure that even the bandwidth values match? I've found differences in Q values between different digital EQ's, so when doing an A/B comparison, you'd want to be sure that when you're comparing each band in isolation that the gain and curves are matching. Of course there will be differences due to the parallel and serial nature of each EQ when the bands are all in together.

  • @ctatrains
    @ctatrains Год назад +1

    AirEQ has had that type in your own band names feature years ago.

  • @producernation
    @producernation Год назад

    On vocals , i use Plugin alliance maag eq4. Do you say this one is better ?

  • @Rio-uv1gs
    @Rio-uv1gs Год назад

    I want some new Fx plugins

  • @amunahm3324
    @amunahm3324 Год назад

    The other RUclipsr compared pulsar 8200 vs. AA Green 4 and Green 4 won in public opinion. That made me think twice before buying this.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад +1

      Acustica has a very strong devoted fanbase. i usually take it with a grain of salt.
      Also, green really is a different unit than just a pulsar 8200 emulation , it adds a ton upon the clean sound of a 8200 - acustica style.

    • @amunahm3324
      @amunahm3324 Год назад

      @@whitenoisestudio I see. I actually own every plugin from Pulsar, though. Mixing with Mike, on the other hand, praises the 8200. I'll buy it anyway coz I do like Pulsar.

  • @gh0stransist0r
    @gh0stransist0r Год назад +1

    bro, you could compare it with TDR Nova but you chose to compare it with serial EQ. 😥

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад +4

      Yeah to show the difference between serial and parallel eqs. That's the whole point.

    • @gh0stransist0r
      @gh0stransist0r Год назад +1

      @@whitenoisestudio alright, got it. It will look bad against the Nova GE though.

    • @cardpuller17
      @cardpuller17 Год назад +1

      ​@gh0stransist0r I just bought Nova and Slick M.
      Thanks for sharing your knowledge before I bought this too.

    • @gh0stransist0r
      @gh0stransist0r Год назад

      @@cardpuller17 I haven't demoed it yet. I love their Pulsar Massive. You should try to demo it first before listening to a random guy on the internet like me. Haha. Anyway, TDR products are high quality , good choice!

    • @Rio-uv1gs
      @Rio-uv1gs Год назад

      ​@@whitenoisestudio🤣

  • @rahulmusic5054
    @rahulmusic5054 Год назад +1

    Its not the tool its your ear !

  • @hiltonstroud1399
    @hiltonstroud1399 Год назад +6

    Wow, Pulsar really have gone all out and paid a lot of content creators/youtubes to do paid promo's on launch of their new plugin. Try the plugins, don't take any paid youtubers word for anything. They often will not disclose that it's a paid review/content video.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад +9

      Wow,
      I have never seen so much false assumptions in a comment on a video of a channel who disclosed its sponsorships on all of its videos. Stop your conspiracies and go do something useful with your time. I’ll leave your comment up for everyone to laugh at.

    • @KEI-um1kc
      @KEI-um1kc 10 месяцев назад

      i would laugh at how triggered you are about that comment... i am pro pulsar audio, but the commenter has a point, a really good one too looking at the state of RUclips reviewers nowadays. its not a conspiracy at this point.@@whitenoisestudio

  • @spastor92
    @spastor92 Год назад +1

    i dont think this is a good aproach for a comparisson, you shouldn't try to match the settings, instead you should try to match the eq curves or do it by ear and find if you can match the sound.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад +7

      Looking forward to see your video on it!

    • @spastor92
      @spastor92 Год назад

      @@whitenoisestudio sorry i didn't pretend to disparage your work, i think it is a good video!

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад +1

      :-) No worries man!

    • @JoshWiniberg
      @JoshWiniberg Год назад

      It's good to do both I think. Good to know how the curves and frequencies react differently to the same settings as the labels aren't always accurate. But also good to know if it's necessary to get a new plugin as you can usually get very close to null, even though it might take slightly different settings.

    • @cornoc
      @cornoc Год назад

      Don't forget that part of the utility of an EQ plugin is how good the curves sound by default, without needing to spend 5 minutes fiddling with the Q and adding extra bell filters to customize the shape every time you want to set a boost or cut.

  • @michaell.8938
    @michaell.8938 Год назад

    I heard no difference between proq3 and 8200.

    • @whitenoisestudio
      @whitenoisestudio  Год назад

      It's there. Listen to the smearing of the higher frequencies and how the pro-q3 has more 4 to 6khz presence.

  • @Czyszy
    @Czyszy Год назад +4

    Meh. ProQ 3 is still king.