OMG, this is exactly what I was looking for. I relaxed immediately when he mentioned "alveolar tap"-like terminology and then fricative and the like. Finally, something clear and technically . I would appreciate if there were schemes with the position of tongue etc. Can anybody point me to a video with a good description of Turkish phology for consonants and vowels, preferable with schematic pictures. I would like to get the answers to things like are turkish t and d dental, is there aspiration (non at all? very soft at the begining of the words for instance). what about n? dental? which sounds are palatalized (or more palatalized then say in English) and which are not. the vowels - how do that compare. For instance, when turkish speakers say "ceket" - the e I hear is very narrow and clearly pronounce in the front of the mouth, while a typical e in "ben" is very deep and sounds closer to " a" to my ears, etc. Is there smth I can watch?
This was very helpful. It was a challenge at first, but I wanted to sound authentic so I found that by letting out a bit of air after a voiceless R. It worked. I’m very happy now, but I’d almost been driven crazy deciphering why Gülru sounded so different between my pronunciation and that of a native speaker. 😂
That's the best explaination i've seen so far. I noticed a potential forth 'R' wich is when it's followed bey an consonant as in 'Merhaba' or 'Türkçe'. Or would you say it's the same as the second one you mentioned?
THANK YOUUU. It seems like for nearly every language I learn, whether it’s French, Spanish, German, or Dutch, the problem consonant for me is ALWAYS THE R. But unlike those languages, Turkish speakers are unhelpful with or unaware of how non-native speakers should say the r correctly.
Because there are 2 types of e in Turkish in daily speech.I am an Azerbaijani, and my language is very very similar to Turkish, but we use different letters for these types of e: e and ə Ə is the sound in the word cat.
Turkish have fast and explosive sounds using frontal part of the mouth exclusively. minimal tongue movement. Imagine You have battery %2 and dont want to use extra movement/enegery to spent rest of it and you r in hurry :) No jaw drop sounds and dont roll your tongue hard, not move your lips horizontally much. Turkish is all about Minimal effort more pew pew.. Lets try to pronounce ''bir'' ''kar'' . open your mouth and theeth a bit and keep steady naturally. imagine sound bi bi bi bi bi fast as possible and repeat ka ka ka ka. now almost r sound here . just move your tongue tip bit back. Tongue slightly moves ( imagine index finger is your tongue . child knuckle challange. can you move your outer first knuckle seperately without move other parts of the finger . your tongue literally in the position like number ''1'' .... Lets try sth else ''Car'' english word. Lets pronounce this word with Turkish accent without knowing english much. C is K sound in Turkish here . a sound similar but dont jaw drop . my lips almost never move, even my tongue almost no moves when i say ''car'' . 0.1 sec fast and explosive.
@@yedeque7858 Literatürde bu alofonlar hep [ɾ̝] / [ɾ̝̊] olarak gösterilmiş, onu takip ettim. Keza Çekçedeki (Türkçedekinin trill versiyonu olan) Ř sesi için de /r̝/ kullanılıyor.
@@yedeque7858 Gördüğüm kadarıyla [ɾ̝] / [ɾ̝̊] ve [ɾ̞] / [ɾ̞̊] çiftlerinin ikisi de kullanılmış. (www.google.com/search?q=%22%C9%BE%CC%9D%22+OR+%22%C9%BE%CC%9D%CC%8A%22+OR+%22%C9%BE%CC%9E%22+OR+%22%C9%BE%CC%9E%CC%8A%22+turkish) Biri yanlış olsa gerek. Tap'in fricated olması için raised olması daha mantıklı geliyor bana, Çekçedeki kullanım da böyle çünkü. Ama phonetician değilim, bir dipnot düşeyim.
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Very interesting! I was trying to find info whether it is similar to Czech ř.
OMG, this is exactly what I was looking for. I relaxed immediately when he mentioned "alveolar tap"-like terminology and then fricative and the like. Finally, something clear and technically . I would appreciate if there were schemes with the position of tongue etc. Can anybody point me to a video with a good description of Turkish phology for consonants and vowels, preferable with schematic pictures. I would like to get the answers to things like are turkish t and d dental, is there aspiration (non at all? very soft at the begining of the words for instance). what about n? dental? which sounds are palatalized (or more palatalized then say in English) and which are not. the vowels - how do that compare. For instance, when turkish speakers say "ceket" - the e I hear is very narrow and clearly pronounce in the front of the mouth, while a typical e in "ben" is very deep and sounds closer to " a" to my ears, etc. Is there smth I can watch?
Fuck yeahhhhhh this is also exactly what i was looking for
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very valuable video thank you sir ! short, and well explained
This was very helpful. It was a challenge at first, but I wanted to sound authentic so I found that by letting out a bit of air after a voiceless R. It worked. I’m very happy now, but I’d almost been driven crazy deciphering why Gülru sounded so different between my pronunciation and that of a native speaker. 😂
That's the best explaination i've seen so far. I noticed a potential forth 'R' wich is when it's followed bey an consonant as in 'Merhaba' or 'Türkçe'. Or would you say it's the same as the second one you mentioned?
this is a great video, i can tell you know a lot about linguistics
This guy sounds like his name would be Pilbert
funniest fucking yt comment i’ve ever seen
Brilliant explanation! What happens before another consonant? In the work Türkiye, for example.
Great video, well explained! I used to always wonder why I heard a 'whistle' in words ending with r, especially evident in songs sung by Göksel.
Teşekkürler!!
This word is the perfect example of the topic. Almost every source on the internet says that thank you should be “teh-shed-kür-LAHSH” (laş). Is it?
@@catboy721Yes!
THANK YOUUU. It seems like for nearly every language I learn, whether it’s French, Spanish, German, or Dutch, the problem consonant for me is ALWAYS THE R. But unlike those languages, Turkish speakers are unhelpful with or unaware of how non-native speakers should say the r correctly.
What about the sound in words like erkek for example? It sounds or it seems to sound a little different from all these 3
i didnt even know alveolar tapped fricatives exist!
It is a similar case to polish .
I was wondering if I heard correctly that the r in Turkish is like or similar to the r in Chinese
I needed this phonology based explanation! Teşekkür ederim.
I‘m really trying but I just can‘t do it…
İts not like ş but more like whistle or wind sound
Video bitince bitir neden başa sarıp tekrar anlatıyor?
Also when you pronounce Ben it sounds like ban
Because there are 2 types of e in Turkish in daily speech.I am an Azerbaijani, and my language is very very similar to Turkish, but we use different letters for these types of e:
e and ə
Ə is the sound in the word cat.
I did not understand how to pronounce kar or bir
Turkish have fast and explosive sounds using frontal part of the mouth exclusively. minimal tongue movement. Imagine You have battery %2 and dont want to use extra movement/enegery to spent rest of it and you r in hurry :) No jaw drop sounds and dont roll your tongue hard, not move your lips horizontally much. Turkish is all about Minimal effort more pew pew.. Lets try to pronounce ''bir'' ''kar'' . open your mouth and theeth a bit and keep steady naturally. imagine sound bi bi bi bi bi fast as possible and repeat ka ka ka ka. now almost r sound here . just move your tongue tip bit back. Tongue slightly moves ( imagine index finger is your tongue . child knuckle challange. can you move your outer first knuckle seperately without move other parts of the finger . your tongue literally in the position like number ''1'' .... Lets try sth else ''Car'' english word. Lets pronounce this word with Turkish accent without knowing english much. C is K sound in Turkish here . a sound similar but dont jaw drop . my lips almost never move, even my tongue almost no moves when i say ''car'' . 0.1 sec fast and explosive.
2:13 burda yanlış diacritic kullandın sanırım raised oluyor öyle
Raised zaten.
@@turkishwithanil tap raised olamaz ki, senin anlattığın da zaten raised değil
@@yedeque7858 Literatürde bu alofonlar hep [ɾ̝] / [ɾ̝̊] olarak gösterilmiş, onu takip ettim. Keza Çekçedeki (Türkçedekinin trill versiyonu olan) Ř sesi için de /r̝/ kullanılıyor.
@@turkishwithanil nerde? [ɾ̞] [ɾ̞̊] olarak gösterilir zaten raised senin dediğinin tam zıttı
@@yedeque7858 Gördüğüm kadarıyla [ɾ̝] / [ɾ̝̊] ve [ɾ̞] / [ɾ̞̊] çiftlerinin ikisi de kullanılmış. (www.google.com/search?q=%22%C9%BE%CC%9D%22+OR+%22%C9%BE%CC%9D%CC%8A%22+OR+%22%C9%BE%CC%9E%22+OR+%22%C9%BE%CC%9E%CC%8A%22+turkish) Biri yanlış olsa gerek. Tap'in fricated olması için raised olması daha mantıklı geliyor bana, Çekçedeki kullanım da böyle çünkü. Ama phonetician değilim, bir dipnot düşeyim.