Adv Nxumalo started and finished his cross examination without any objection being raised by State. This just get to show how well prepared and articulate he was.
these young lawyers here to expose South African justice system...even Vasiline is corrupt ..the whole state representatives are defending the witness.
These advocates are smart,they team up to come with a stragety unlike last time during adv Thobane who was asking more questions about hospital,money transport, Netflix etc,Mr 'sticks ' Mnisi and Mr 'black mamba' Nxumalo are asking questions based on what happened in the house 🔥
You are so brilliant Mr adv.Mnisi do you know that not getting easily scared by that heartless advocate Baloyi and his accomplices Judge or should I say incompetency judge i gave you a bell man🤝✊✊
The advocate dealt with the states objection in a very simple and easy to an extend that he asked whether there is still an object My Lord ..😂😂 very polite
The judge is cool, calm and collective, the judge should not be criticised; he has to clarify certain aspects of crossexamination and at the end of the trial he has to do justice; please give the judge the opportunity to do his job, the ndpp has created this mess not the judge; he has to lesson to all the evidence and decide whether to attach any weight on circumstantial, hearsay; direct or indirect evidence
I salute u advocates🔥🔥... Best ever👌👌these liars must be grilled until they tell the truth... Jail sentence is awaiting them. As for Mthokosizi n Tumelo 😢claiming that Senzo was their BEST friend but they can't expose the mastermind😳😳😳
Bt it's not helping him my brother cos the defence is tactical and strategic. I don't think the state has a case here. Too much contradictory statements from Mthoko n Tumelo
@@nomusamazibuko7846 you can say that MaMwelase and I think the judge and prosecutor can see that the state witnesses are losing the grip on their testimonies
Advocate Nxumalo is very smart, if the witness noticed mistakes on the book, that means he can clearly remember what happened on the day of the incident. The statement was written a day after the incident.... The net is closing and it is clear that witness chooses what to remember.
I agree n disagree with you bcoz of the first new advocate I think he is not smart n but better compared to tefo n his co worker but with this one he can match the smart mshololo
Teffo bored me.. he was argumentative and all over the place. How do u bring in new documents during cross examination. Now we have clear view of what is happening, we are learning
Why is everyone running away from the word "altercation" 😂 when someone has a gun pointed at me, it's already an altercation before we even get physical...
@@dumisaninyathi3336 eish my brother this whole thing is a mockery of our justice system I mean where have you heard that someone is carrying a firearm and then someone stands up pushes a person with a firearm and walks out of the house
I wonder khabo Kelly kuyosala bani..njengoba bonke baya ejele..Longwe killed Senzo finish and klaar .nina bo Juda iscariout friends sies man ninezinhliziyo ezimbi
Where did this Judge Advocate studied Law.. ..ke mantswididi..Since he took the stand ..they are no objections raised against him and the cross examination is running smoothly..
This court is all about the use of vocabulary and who is the best in use stylistic form. All these words they fall under the same umbrella term. Why complicating things, all what we need here is the truth please
Adv Mshololo should come here for some pointers before she commences with her cross examination. We the online audience seem to have some valid and relevant questions
This guy's has a plan to confuse one of them and it will end in tears,,,his playing with their minds,,once they change from that statement they be in trouble mark my word
Look at Mthokozisi he is failing to answer certain questions from a statement that he signed and it's what he told the cop who was writing the statement
He just agreed yes he understands the significance of a signature and then changes to "I said no". Hhay I wash my hands. Even my daughter can tell you that this guy is a liar
We getting close to ........ who shot Senzo but yet very far as we dont have a name nor full image. Just a tall and shot person. Can we get free data plan please just to watch this series. We excited to hear bester and nandi drama
I wish I can advise umndeni kaSenzo ukuthi uthathe loludaba ulufake kwi skebhe uTumelo no Mthokozisi badinga iskebhe and Sona asidlali nezingane ngzozama ukuthola ubhuti uSfiso coz ngyazi la asonta khon la eThekwini eduze base hostela Dalton Labafana abaw2 badinga izinsizwa lama lawyer ayabancenga iskebhe asincengi muntu.......I can volunteer to pay the family to be members of iskebhe even though ngingathathi entweni bt ngingajabula ukubona laboskhotheni belenga Ku Botha Kishi imvubu
I'm impressed , you all are Brilliant my WAR_SHIPS RAMOSEPELE, MNISI, NXUMALO MSHOLOLO, EXCEPT FOR THE TWO MUSKETEERS so called state prosecutor ..Judge, the two of you can continue in your confusion , heartless and sleepy mode, by the time you wake up this barbaric culprits will be locked in jail abd the poor 5 victims currently sitting on the benches will be suing you and your state for wrongful arrest.😢😢😢
An attorney is a defence lawyer in the district and magistrate court whereas an advocate is the one who represents clients in the Higher Courts.which In simpler words means that an advocate is more senior than the attorney.but again,an attorney can stand in the high court under the advocate 's instruction and I thank you
@@kwenamahlope4699 Advocates occasionally appear in Magistrates too 🤷♀️. Hence I highlighted the major difference which is the fact that Advocates are specialists
This is confusing how many intruders was in the house cuz If kelly run in to the room being chased by the second intruder and and longwe run out being chased by the second intruder that mean the time senzo was shot the was no one,when did she come out to hold senzo when he was shot
Too many loopholes in this case,I mean what made Mthokozisi Thwala to voluntarily go to the police station without being called by the police to come and give a statement and that happened a day after the incident had taken place
Excellent work Mnisi & Nxumalo. U have made us proud❤
This must be the most clinical advocate here. Wow.... Feels like I am watching an American law series. Absolutely amazing.
Minus the American part I agree with you. They are actors. 😂
There's no wrestling with Adv Nxumalo
Adv Nxumalo is deliverying a spectacle of cross examination. I YES him.
I salute all the advocates. They are a great team 👏
Adv Nxumalo started and finished his cross examination without any objection being raised by State. This just get to show how well prepared and articulate he was.
I agree. He referred the court to every statement he was relying on.
Indeed
Indeed, this are the kind of Legal reps required at all material time.very smart and focused
I like this advocate, cool, calm, and collected. He has poked some serious holes in this guy's testimony.
I'm happy we got to know you Mr Nxumalo (I think) Nkunzi emnyama, Mr Cool calm and collected
His the best 👌
South Africans if you want justice remove this judge before its too late
100% agree
The Judge over intervenes, I feel personally. He gives an impression of being on the state side.
these young lawyers here to expose South African justice system...even Vasiline is corrupt ..the whole state representatives are defending the witness.
Agreed
He's already removed just that He must finished this Case and face his own charges of being dishonest and disrespectful
Indeed is like i am watching American law series I salute advocate Nxumalo 🎉
We definitely on another level here, we're heading somewhere🙏🙏🙏😎💯
This advocate is much composed. I like his approach
Let's gives him a Bell🍺🍻
They should have told the witness to stop using the term "I think" it's either he knows or he doesn't
It's always the cool calm collected ones who are the most dangerous. A big shout out to the lawyer.
Im impressed by this advocate as well , he is so vomposed , just like Adv Mshololo, you guys make me proud to be South African❤,
Im loving the 3 advocates
Mnisi
Nxumalo
Msholol
They gonna show some people flames strue ❤
They are the best
what about Ramosepele?
He did very well. Though he was still settling but he managed to prove some foul play on the day of the incident. I like all of the team.
Mshololo was very flat😅
@@josephmolatomphuthi7657,,,he started very well off,,and ended so well.😊
All of you guys as defence councels you made my day finally shame on state advocate mr Vaseline Baloyi🤝🤝🤝👊👊
They are all doing a great job.
Kwaaaaaa,as for Mr vaseline
Shame on him. He is now quite. Cannot wait to see him ashamed when things really turn around
These advocates are smart,they team up to come with a stragety unlike last time during adv Thobane who was asking more questions about hospital,money transport, Netflix etc,Mr 'sticks ' Mnisi and Mr 'black mamba' Nxumalo are asking questions based on what happened in the house 🔥
Yes and advocate T.T was becoming more imototional
❤ I salute this advocate. 🎉
The advocate is ace
Which 1 you salute chief?
@@thabaninyawo-hv5ge Adv Nxumalo for sure
A fabricated story is easily forgotten but the real story is hard to forget
Yes that's true Amanga ayakhohleka BT iqiniso alijiki ,labafana nje sebakhokhelwa izimali ukuthi bafe neqiniso...
Bazoboshiswa yiwo la manga abo abonwa ingane
Very true
Big Advocate Mnisi you are not intimidated by this bias Judge & this Prosecutor Baloyi as for advocate Nxumalo wooo the way he cross examine 👌
You are so brilliant Mr adv.Mnisi do you know that not getting easily scared by that heartless advocate Baloyi and his accomplices Judge or should I say incompetency judge i gave you a bell man🤝✊✊
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Powered by advocate s
Eiy he was so confident.all their objectives were taken back .His firm and very intelligent also professional
Ihlo la Adv Nxumalo ngiyalisaba mina.. weeeee angangibheka kanye nje bese nje ngiyacula mina bandla🤣🤣🤣.
Excellent job Zwide
Someone here will go down i can feel it these lawyers are too smart for this boys 😂😂😂
If Kelly ran to her room when the second intruder aucosted her, at what stage did she see Mthoko, Tumelo and Senzo wrestling the gunman?
And Tumelo said it's Mthoko who was in the bedroom because he even opened the door for him with a knife as he couldn't open the door
Why would a person who just dropped you at home with a car, call you after 5 to 10 min and still ask you where you are?
😂😂😂😂
Lixoki Eli qwaba...lies lies
He already knows you are home , where else can you be . 😂
Advocate Nxumalo u deserve Award l admire you Boss , Wow 👏👏👏✊
The feareless Advocate Mninsi
Best eva😊
The advocate dealt with the states objection in a very simple and easy to an extend that he asked whether there is still an object My Lord ..😂😂 very polite
The judge is cool, calm and collective, the judge should not be criticised; he has to clarify certain aspects of crossexamination and at the end of the trial he has to do justice; please give the judge the opportunity to do his job, the ndpp has created this mess not the judge; he has to lesson to all the evidence and decide whether to attach any weight on circumstantial, hearsay; direct or indirect evidence
Mhmm so impressed with this advocate
Straight to the point
I salute u advocates🔥🔥... Best ever👌👌these liars must be grilled until they tell the truth... Jail sentence is awaiting them. As for Mthokosizi n Tumelo 😢claiming that Senzo was their BEST friend but they can't expose the mastermind😳😳😳
Sebegxishwe imali ematashinganeni and they're becoming rude to the court and advocate Vaseline Baloyi is assisting them to escape
I Salute advocate Nxumalo
Adv Nxumalo🤟👋👋👋👋👌
his eyes are intimidating
Nxumalo u are a man i salute u🤞🤝
Too much explanation will make Mthokozisi to tell the truth because instead of him answering the questions short he explains a lot
Bt it's not helping him my brother cos the defence is tactical and strategic. I don't think the state has a case here. Too much contradictory statements from Mthoko n Tumelo
@@nomusamazibuko7846 you can say that MaMwelase and I think the judge and prosecutor can see that the state witnesses are losing the grip on their testimonies
@@stanleykhumalo5158 Kunjalo bhuti
Advocate Nxumalo is very smart, if the witness noticed mistakes on the book, that means he can clearly remember what happened on the day of the incident. The statement was written a day after the incident.... The net is closing and it is clear that witness chooses what to remember.
You're very intelligent my brother
Now we have the real advocates.. Not that tefo😂😂😂
I agree n disagree with you bcoz of the first new advocate I think he is not smart n but better compared to tefo n his co worker but with this one he can match the smart mshololo
I agree teffo is d best n he coming back coz they is d 3th n 4th docket on dis case
Not sure if it was an error by the interpreter..twala says tumelo and senzo fought.
I truly like the current defence team or lawyers... I salute them
Teffo bored me.. he was argumentative and all over the place.
How do u bring in new documents during cross examination. Now we have clear view of what is happening, we are learning
Physical altercation ke! My word!! this judge is a pain.
ADV Mnisi humbleness destroy this witness evidence
The problem in this court, the judge interfere too much
Mthoko is arrogant not intelligent and he is been protected by Judge
True
Senzo friends are rude and they didn't truly loved him
They were jealous of Senzo achievements in his football career
His arrogance just ....and the gentleness of the advocates. I guess this is not a movie court case drama. In reality the advocate does lose a temper.
Altercation: brawl, fight...
Advocate Nxumalo tore this witness apart because he was asking him based on the statements that he gave to the cops who wrote the statements
Well presented cross examined by Nxumalo and it shows that you overlooked both witnesses statements before coming to court 🎉🎉
Why is everyone running away from the word "altercation" 😂 when someone has a gun pointed at me, it's already an altercation before we even get physical...
True
They think wrestling will make it easy
@@stanleykhumalo5158 wrestling some lose his life le judge lyadakwa nje
@@dumisaninyathi3336 eish my brother this whole thing is a mockery of our justice system I mean where have you heard that someone is carrying a firearm and then someone stands up pushes a person with a firearm and walks out of the house
Mkhatshwa,Zwide kaLanga cool calm and intelligent WOW what an advocate...I salute
Inkunzi emnyama madoda, the black stallion, Mr cool calm and collected uzanayo kancane kancane
If I run into trouble Adv Nxumalo is my guy... calm cool collected straight to the points
Uyinkunzi mfoka Mnisi 🙌
I dont think Adv Baloyi will be in court tomorrow. Adv Nxumalo is pulling no punches in exhuming lies from Mthoko et al.
I wonder khabo Kelly kuyosala bani..njengoba bonke baya ejele..Longwe killed Senzo finish and klaar .nina bo Juda iscariout friends sies man ninezinhliziyo ezimbi
I❤️❤️❤️you adv Nxumalo 👌👌👌👌
Mr nxumalo 🎉🎉 idog yam 👊
Though shall be found out,one day is one day 😢
How could you push the perpetrator who was armed with a knife. Highly improbable
Funny enough not even 1 person was stubbed or hurt except poor senzo
Where was the gun during that push me I'll push you to kitchen. Whoever drafted this version for them is not creative😂
Where did this Judge Advocate studied Law.. ..ke mantswididi..Since he took the stand ..they are no objections raised against him and the cross examination is running smoothly..
This court is all about the use of vocabulary and who is the best in use stylistic form. All these words they fall under the same umbrella term. Why complicating things, all what we need here is the truth please
I salute u Mr Mnisi
what a classic presentation. No arguements but a display of great research
This guys said he was with Kelly kid but now according to Kelly's statement, the kid was on another room🤔
Maybe she's talking about the small one 🤷
These are 2 different kids
Nd the screaming of Makhumalo that made him to jumped back hahaha today was another story ,he jumped back because neighbours were now there to assist
Woow Mr arms folded
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
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Adv Mshololo should come here for some pointers before she commences with her cross examination. We the online audience seem to have some valid and relevant questions
Not The judge asking the witness if he wants to answer or not😢
Uzana Naye advocate I salute you🎉💃🤞
After the best adv nxumalo I can't wait to see another best of mshololo.plz I hope there will be no other delay like a six month break plz plz plz
I like Nxumalo, Zwide Ka Langa😊
10/10 Adv🎉... a real Scara Ngobese move🙌🙌🙌
This judge is not paying attention at all. It's like he is fast asleep
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I put it to you Nhlanhla that he is just waking up to be an assistant Prosecutor to Vaseline..?😄😄
I salute Nxumalo
Where were these guys in the beginning....? Yah str8...I wish they could recall the past three witnesses
They will they already requested the state to bring them
Judge judge judge have you ever lost a family member so that you wil think of the other's, just asking
Phezu kwakhe Advocate Mnisi sewedelele kakhulu lo pokloza umsunu kanina
Negligence statement frome witness . Advocate nxumalo I salute
Advocate ncumalo nd Mnisi ❤️
Wow what a cross examination 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥👌👌👌
Adv. Mnisi 💪💪💪💪thank you my Lord i will pause for now😂😂😂
Thanks mr Adv
This judge is very disappointing. What exactly is he not understanding,wrestling, tussling,hustling are synonyms.
Exactly, they fall under the same umbrella term. He's biased shame
Mr nxumalo sothondose mkhantshwa ngiyakuvuma 💃
Mr nxumalo ❤❤❤
Best team of adv
Interference from the Judge is disgusting.
Baf2 what can we do with dis Afro man is eritating
He is doing his job, or else things will be left up to Interpretation which will help the state's case
He can't forget what happened to him but he forgot what to put some crucial information in his statement
Why this lawyer is reading other people's statements?is he not giving Kelly and her crew light?😢
Noo remember those were statements given under oath &(were recorded) so that cant change what they’ve already said🤷♀️
No they must repeat what they said under oath. I think the net is closing 😂
This guy's has a plan to confuse one of them and it will end in tears,,,his playing with their minds,,once they change from that statement they be in trouble mark my word
That won't help her even if she was to get all the statements at the end of it all no one knows what the defence will ask her
Look at Mthokozisi he is failing to answer certain questions from a statement that he signed and it's what he told the cop who was writing the statement
He just agreed yes he understands the significance of a signature and then changes to "I said no". Hhay I wash my hands. Even my daughter can tell you that this guy is a liar
Effortlessly so
This advocate..I salute him..no rush..down to earth and calm....very intelligent indeed..😂😂😂if I ask u questions is not a joke..I need answers
Very very dangerous. It's always the cool, calm and down to earth ones who are the most dangerous
Judge is very slow in everything.. Writing notes, asking questions... Yoh aowa. Minutes are being wasted bathong
Kelly's statement is vvvverrrrry different, shwele I wonder what's the truth, hats off to the advocates🙏🙏🙏
We getting close to ........ who shot Senzo but yet very far as we dont have a name nor full image. Just a tall and shot person. Can we get free data plan please just to watch this series. We excited to hear bester and nandi drama
I wish I can advise umndeni kaSenzo ukuthi uthathe loludaba ulufake kwi skebhe uTumelo no Mthokozisi badinga iskebhe and Sona asidlali nezingane ngzozama ukuthola ubhuti uSfiso coz ngyazi la asonta khon la eThekwini eduze base hostela Dalton
Labafana abaw2 badinga izinsizwa lama lawyer ayabancenga iskebhe asincengi muntu.......I can volunteer to pay the family to be members of iskebhe even though ngingathathi entweni bt ngingajabula ukubona laboskhotheni belenga Ku Botha Kishi imvubu
Nxumalo yinja ye Game😂😂😂😂
What's the difference between an Attorney and an Advocate? Looks like an Adv has more better status than the AT.
I'm impressed , you all are Brilliant my WAR_SHIPS RAMOSEPELE, MNISI, NXUMALO MSHOLOLO, EXCEPT FOR THE TWO MUSKETEERS so called state prosecutor ..Judge, the two of you can continue in your confusion , heartless and sleepy mode, by the time you wake up this barbaric culprits will be locked in jail abd the poor 5 victims currently sitting on the benches will be suing you and your state for wrongful arrest.😢😢😢
I’ll give you an example of a GP and a Gynaecologist for example. Attorney’s are like General Practitioners and Advocates are specialists
An attorney is a defence lawyer in the district and magistrate court whereas an advocate is the one who represents clients in the Higher Courts.which In simpler words means that an advocate is more senior than the attorney.but again,an attorney can stand in the high court under the advocate 's instruction and I thank you
@@kwenamahlope4699 Advocates occasionally appear in Magistrates too 🤷♀️. Hence I highlighted the major difference which is the fact that Advocates are specialists
@@kwenamahlope4699 Thank you sir🙏
The judge my lord ai!🤦♀️
Bravo to the advocates 👏👏
Le lawyer ngathi iyinceku 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Zwide!!!!!!!!!
Mr Nxumalo ngiyakuvuma❤
The only intruders in the house was these guys(mtho,tumelo & longwe🤞🤞
Truth shall set you free.
This is confusing how many intruders was in the house cuz If kelly run in to the room being chased by the second intruder and and longwe run out being chased by the second intruder that mean the time senzo was shot the was no one,when did she come out to hold senzo when he was shot
The best part of the cross examination happens tomorrow thanx to Mshololo. Just wait and see.
Mshololo will set the weekend mood for us. She fires from all angles
I can't wait
Ngine crush Naye 😍
I thought yimina ngedwa😘
Same Nam I'm waiting
Baloyi must cover his head in shame.
It can't be a moving scene which start from A,B,,C and D.Thwala told the court that everything happened so quickly...
NXUMALO!!!
Too many loopholes in this case,I mean what made Mthokozisi Thwala to voluntarily go to the police station without being called by the police to come and give a statement and that happened a day after the incident had taken place