As someone who navigates large commercial vessels I HIGHLY encourage everyone to get AIS. It let's us see you on our displays even if we can't pick you up on radar for whatever reason. It will also trigger some automatic collision alarms on some vessels, which can help less vigilant watchstanders avoid you.
Concur. For collision avoidance, and peace of mind knowing that the big boys know you're there, AIS is essential. IMO, more valuable than RADAR. Both, is of course better.
AIS class B is better than nothing but nowhere near as good as class A .We find class B often appears on our screen's with seconds to spare , and often the ghost of the vessel remains on screen long after the actual vessel has passed range limit . A great addition to watch keeping but definitely not 100% reliable ,
Absolutely worth the investment. On our way back from Nantucket to Marion which meant running through the routes of some pretty big ferries between Hyannis, Falmouth & Woods Hole and then the fishing boats out of New Bedford running Buzzards Bay to and from the CC Canal. We hit pea soup fog starting off Hyannis but with radar, GPS and AIS made our way east through Nantucket and Vineyard sound through Woods Hole and up Buzzards Bay to Marion. No issues whatsoever. They see you and you see them.
Ed & Lynn; I love watching how accessible everything is on a 44 ft. powerboat. I had 28 -32 ft. sailboats and you had to be Olga Korbut to reach anything without dismantling everything! Jesus, a crawl behind instrument panel, what a luxury!
AIS works in a different fashion than RADAR, giving similar result of location of vessels around you, in some ways it is a better tool, in others it is not. AIS positioning information is GPS based and is usually accurate, when left on while at anchor it will locate your vessel even at night so night traffic will know you are there and can avoid you. RADAR will find everything that returns part of the signal, AIS only returns what is transmitting AIS. AIS data is clearer, easier to read. RADAR finds more, some of which is false echos and you need to interpret the results. A vessel with no AIS will not show on AIS. Both tools work together to improve your safety, anyone with a tracker account can find your last reported AIS location if communications go and you are listed as missing. So, yes, AIS is worth the cost, it is NOT a replacement for RADAR. I'm sure you knew this already though. I posted becasue many people do think AIS is a replacement for RADAR rather than a supplemental tool.
We agree. Radar is indispensable in our opinion. AIS is a great safety addition, but I would not try long trips without radar. And traveling at night without radar is dangerous. The two together will make us feel much safer, especially in fog.
@@tryingnottosink9107 Some waters, night travel even with radar is dangerous, a flir camera is the tool then. Forward Looking Infra Red = FLIR. Here in the PNW, the flotsam often found in the waters make night travel without infra-red camera a real hazard. floating logs don't show on radar that well, they show well enough on infra red. ( and logs don't show on ais at all ;) )
We put in the same Vesper 8K w/splitter system this spring. The unit comes with it's own GPS antenna, because Class B AIS transponders must have a dedicated GPS and can't share one with another unit. They cannot use NMEA-0183 data from another GPS. This is a type approval certification requirement. We don't do much 'out of the ICW' cruising, so the collision avoidance aspect isn't such a big deal to us - though I do like to check my 'three minute rule' calculated time to CPA against the box (so I know where I'll be when we're at CPA - skinny water/fat water, other traffic). We have ours feeding the SIMRAD NSS12 evo3 chartplotter via the NMEA 2K, and going to NAVIONICS and AQUA MAP on the tablets via WiFi. The WatchMate app is a good quick place to get a big picture look around you - it also has a good anchor watch feature. The biggest advantage we've seen since adding our AIS last spring (we have the same Vesper 8K w/splitter) is the improved response to VHF calls when you can actually use a boat's name vice trying to hail "Blue Sailboat approaching marker ##". Granted, a Captain who installs a AIS is probably more likely to be VHF knowledgeable, and presumably more likely to be paying attention to their VHF and respond when called. Hailing commercial is even better. I get the impression professional Captains prefer being hailed by name vice "tug & tow" and like being able to see us on AIS too. Those two things seem to help us pick up a couple 'respect' points when proposing overtaking/passing maneuvers.
Thanks for the information. We did not know that about the GPS antenna. We look forward to using the AIS. There have been many times on the water where we struggled to see a boats name to hail it, or just wondered what one of the big ships was called. Like anything, I am sure there will be a learning curve but we think it was a wise investment.
I love seeing people do their own work. My friends always tease me for working on all my vehicles. I enjoy doing the work myself that way I know it's done right. Our families first boat was a used one. We were at the Annapolis boat show looking to buy a new boat. We've met this salesman who worked at different locations of the dealership. They strongly suggested that for our very first boat a used one would be a better fit. They started talking about the one they had just taken in on a trade in that their customer moved up to a bigger size. They started talking about all the upgrades that were already done how he was so meticulous on everything he did. When they sent us to the dealership to look at it I thought we were going to see a statue of this customer who just traded in his boat. That's how much they were bragging on him. We decided to buy it took a test drive everything seemed to be okay with me. At that time I didn't know much about what I was looking at. We didn't make boat friends until we bought a boat lol. With how late in the season the Annapolis boat show is we only got a chance to take our new boat out just a few times before needing to winterize it. Now we're in March of a new year and it was extremely warm for March. So we decided to take our boat out. Everything went fine as the boat went into the water. Everything was still fine as were flying down the bay heading to a restaurant on the water. That's when things started acting up. You would turn the lights on the horn would blow you hit another switch the dashboard would go dead. When we made it back to the dock I physically disconnected all the batteries not trusting the switches. The following weekend I went down to the boat with all my electrical connections and tools. What I saw when I started taking into the electric was so horrible it was almost like somebody was playing a practical joke on you. Not one single piece of electrical tape. The previous owner the one that the dealership was praising had used masking tape instead of electrical. As anybody who has ever used masking tape it breaks down over time depending on the circumstances that it's used in. There were wires touching other wires nothing at all was marked. I spent days straightening out all the electric issues. All of my friends kept on telling me just to pay someone to do it that I had the money and didn't need to do it myself. Like I said in the beginning I like doing my own work so I know it's done right. For what they charge at the marinas to work on boats you can buy shop manuals that will give you all your torque specs and tell you how to take something apart. I really love when I see people like yourself not afraid to jump in there. Look forward to your next video.
Thanks for the story. Doing your own work is the best way to really learn the boat. Plus, I would rather save the money and spend it on fuel, or upgrades.
Definately worth it! I found it to be very useful in a couple of situations, including identifying a vessel coming toward us when we coming around a blind bend. FYI, the apps will usually show the MMSI number until it knows the name of a boat. Based on the AIS standards, the position and MMSI number is transmitted more often than the name and other details. Typically you will see the MMSI numbers appear first in the apps when you first turn on the AIS, but then after a few minutes the names start to appear.
Thanks for the info Mark. I will check when I return to the boat this weekend and see if the apps have updated the names. I am sure the AIS will come in handy when I get back to Ft Lauderdale. I am always nervous going around turns on New River.
That's similar to what I was thinking regarding the identification issues, although I was leaning towards more of what the transmitting (remote) boat operator had told his AIS system to broadcast. For example, I can see an operator limiting his AIS transmitter to sending out ONLY the registration information, not necessarily the boat name.
Very smart upgrade...adds safety and better visibility to your voyages. Boats can now call you by name if they need to pass on traffic issues or other navigation concerns, and the Coast Guard likes when vessels have these installed.
I added it to my chart plotter on a cruise from Seattle to Long Beach, CA. It was very useful at night to identify fishing boats off the coast of Oregon.
Very interesting video, I have pondered installing A.I.S for sometime now. I look forward to any updates you might post once you become familiar with the unit.
Too bad it’s so expensive. If you could get a package including a simple cable and antenna, and that has a NMEA 2000 connection for a total of less than $2-300, then I would guess more people would have it. If there also was a cheap personal AIS transponder for SUP, RIB etc. that would help A LOT!
I think that you need to get someone that knows electronics to eliminate a lot of that excess cabling, inverters, and wires to make your electrical system work better, and generate less heat. You would be surprised how cables/wires rolled up or a bunch of old wires and cables can cause issues with electronics. But yes, AIS is an important tool for boating safety.
Always important to remember that AIS only shows you vessels that are transmitting, and you only 'appear' to others using AIS. It can help in the fog, but sound signals should always be your primary means of detecting other vessels.
I got caught in a huge fog bank off the coast of Nantucket last year and I really wish I had one of these. I’m gonna have to look into it. Radar was helpful, AIS would have been great to have too though.
I guess one of your next big projects will be going under the console and rewire/remove unused devices. A fan might feel good under there too. Would love to see that video on the refit of the console wiring. Hello from thailand
as a fan goes, i would use a pc fan, you can get them very cheap, a good one about 45.00 and pushes some good air. 300-450 fpm and all dc, and under .06 amps
Great job guys. I try and follow the boats that I follow if they have ais on the navionics app. I used to be a communications tech. When you were installing the splitter, there was a length of coax that was coiled. I’m not sure if you left it that way. Although it’s not a lot of power going out, it is always best not to leave it in a loop like that as it can create some rf issues with electronics. Also, it looked like you ran everything else loose. That is good. You don’t want to zip tie it to power wires when doing a run like that. Al in all great job. Now I just need to add your boat name on my avionics so I can follow you too.
Former Radar tech here (recently 19 years in broadcast TV) and I agree 100% on not putting power and data lines in the same bundle whenever possible. Depending on the frequency/data rate it _shouldn't_ be a major issue coiling the RF/coax into a fairly LOOSE loop until you're sure about your installation locations. Of course once you're positive your gear is where you want it, then cut to fit with a short service loop is best.
I run radar and AIS in the fog here in the PNW. I note the the AIS position lags the radar position on targets somewhat due to the way AIS works. Important that you not rely exactly on the AIS position due to this lag.
Class B AIS can be very slow ,it's useful but not 100% reliable given that you may not be exactly where other boats think you are according to your signal . Class A though expensive , is far more accurate.
U.S.Coast Guard and U.S. Navy aircraft have AIS on board and have been known to high five SV Delos (with AIS) and come up on 16 to say hello. Nothing better then then having the USCG and USN watching your back.
We were once hailed by an aircraft carrier in Norfolk. They were giving us a head's up that they were going to cut across our bow to dock. It was exciting, to me.
We have the same unit. We also have the external alarm. The boat names are broadcast less often than the MMSI number, speed, direction data. So that maybe why you aren't getting them immediately on your other apps. One other feature we use and absolutely love, is the anchor alarm. It gives me peace of mind and I know it will tell me if we are dragging.
Thanks for the info. How did you wire the alarm? The diagram shows the positive going to the Vesper and the negative going to ground, yet the alarm as three terminals.
@@tryingnottosink9107 it's been a couple of years since I installed it. But if memory serves. Positive wire from power source to one alarm terminal,. Positive from Vesper to the other. Negative from alarm to negative bus bar. I'm from Minnesota, the boat is shrink wrapped for the winter. Won't be able to verify that until April.
Yes it is if you sent back . So not only received but send to. And for the rest a radar systeem. Working and use the alarm systeem if sombody is to close to your boat So you can sleep onbourd . I use ais and radar systeem .
That electrical system is a mess, I had the same problem with my Luhrs 250. Made it nearly impossible to trace out some of the electrical faults in the system. Over time I ripped out and revamped the system removing the unused wiring and the bundles of extra wire. Yes it was a ton of work but it made the system much easier to maintain and more reliable.
@@tryingnottosink9107 As a (former) USN Electronics Technician that mess of a wiring harness is going to give me nightmares. I have no idea how much of your current electronics can be connected via some version of Ethernet or CanBus but just think of the weight savings you could gain if even half of it could be. And MOST of that weight is up fairly high, so moving your CG lower would be a definite win-win!
Hello Guy's always enjoy the video's quick question for you at 6:18 you show a white Trawler would you know who made that I can't pin it down Thanks Len
Thanks for watching. I do not know what brand of Trawler that is. It just showed up at the marina and I have not met the owner yet. It looks on the older side.
15A should be plenty to power a couple radios! I’d be careful if you add anything else though, radios are low power but when they transmit they can pull big peak power for a short time. But this looks sweet!
Hi Ed. Love your videos. We hope to follow in your footsteps in 4 years and just bought the Carver 466 for that purpose. I noticed that I have the same ZF electronic throttle controls as you. Mine are wired so that they never turn off, which drives me nuts. Are yours the same? If not, could you send me a pick of the wiring to the ignition. So far I haven’t found anyone who can help. Rich on Knowing Knot.
The 466 is a great boat Congratulations. Our throttle has a breaker on a 32 volt panel in the engine room, along with the radar and other items needed while underway. We just throw the main panel breaker when we get to port. They also have individual on/off switches in the corresponding engine rooms. I do not know exactly how they are wired since they were on the boat when we bought it. The rest of the 32 volt systems (heads, pumps, etc) are on a separate panel that we leave on all the time.
Loved your "autopilot" or lookout sitting at the lower helm which I saw as you went to the top helm.( or is he / she your security watch/ guard ?) AIS, Great investment for your own security at sea .
Hi Ed, i heard that you have to program each one to get your boats info showing don't know if this is true or not. Here in the PNW, the coast gaurd was talking about putting AIS transponders on all of their bouy's cause most boaters don't have radar but do the ais. so yea i feel that having both would be a back up to the back ups.
Be aware that class B AIS can be slow , when viewed on a video plotter the on screen boat approaching that has class B often jumps considerable distances between transmission . Class A , though expensive , is far more efficient . If using class B don't assume larger ships are actually receiving your exact position , we know you are out there certainly but it's not 100% accurate and can go minutes without updating.
It is currently wired so that it is only on when the boat's 32 volt system is turned on. I will probably be changing that. However, I heard that the last reported location should remain on AIS, but I haven't checked yet. It should be listed as "Triton."
@@tryingnottosink9107 Before COVID I it was like every 3rd boat ride they would board me for a safety inspection. Drives me nuts. It's like come on guys, the life jackets, flares and throwable device are in the same place they were the last time.
I can see why a girl would like a splutter, double the safety. Living on the coast I like to watch the ships sail past and found marinetraffic DOT com really useful.
I know on on my Boat all the Electronics was up graded in 2017 and 18 New engines and Gen and water maker the guy added underwater lights he said it would surprize you what you see at night
You’re kidding right? AIS is a necessity not an option when at sea. Safety, courtesy and confidence. Knowing the name of a boat when calling on the VHF is a must. Calling “North bound white sailboat with the American flag on the stern” is a fail on the ICW. Transiting off shore at night it is a must. Just get one and be done with it.
Another great video! We are total rookies and just bought a 30 foot cruiser and launched a channel cruising the waters of Ontario, Canada after being inspired by you guys. There are not a lot of power boat/trawler channels out there so we'd love to hear of any that you may know of. Plenty of learning curves when my crew consists of me and a 7 and 11 year old lol! We'd love any advice and feel free to check us out at ruclips.net/video/e08zJgwoZL8/видео.html , we'd love the support as we try and figure this out. Cheers!
As someone who navigates large commercial vessels I HIGHLY encourage everyone to get AIS. It let's us see you on our displays even if we can't pick you up on radar for whatever reason. It will also trigger some automatic collision alarms on some vessels, which can help less vigilant watchstanders avoid you.
Good advice!
Concur. For collision avoidance, and peace of mind knowing that the big boys know you're there, AIS is essential. IMO, more valuable than RADAR. Both, is of course better.
AIS class B is better than nothing but nowhere near as good as class A .We find class B often appears on our screen's with seconds to spare , and often the ghost of the vessel remains on screen long after the actual vessel has passed range limit .
A great addition to watch keeping but definitely not 100% reliable ,
Absolutely worth the investment. On our way back from Nantucket to Marion which meant running through the routes of some pretty big ferries between Hyannis, Falmouth & Woods Hole and then the fishing boats out of New Bedford running Buzzards Bay to and from the CC Canal. We hit pea soup fog starting off Hyannis but with radar, GPS and AIS made our way east through Nantucket and Vineyard sound through Woods Hole and up Buzzards Bay to Marion. No issues whatsoever. They see you and you see them.
That is exactly we week purchased it. We are not often in fog, or dark of night, but when we are, the AIS is going to make us a lot more comfortable.
Ed & Lynn; I love watching how accessible everything is on a 44 ft. powerboat. I had 28 -32 ft. sailboats and you had to be Olga Korbut to reach anything without dismantling everything! Jesus, a crawl behind instrument panel, what a luxury!
That video is from our Hatteras 58. There is a lot of room under the helm. Even more if I remove all the old wires and stuff.
AIS works in a different fashion than RADAR, giving similar result of location of vessels around you, in some ways it is a better tool, in others it is not. AIS positioning information is GPS based and is usually accurate, when left on while at anchor it will locate your vessel even at night so night traffic will know you are there and can avoid you.
RADAR will find everything that returns part of the signal, AIS only returns what is transmitting AIS.
AIS data is clearer, easier to read.
RADAR finds more, some of which is false echos and you need to interpret the results.
A vessel with no AIS will not show on AIS.
Both tools work together to improve your safety, anyone with a tracker account can find your last reported AIS location if communications go and you are listed as missing.
So, yes, AIS is worth the cost, it is NOT a replacement for RADAR.
I'm sure you knew this already though. I posted becasue many people do think AIS is a replacement for RADAR rather than a supplemental tool.
We agree. Radar is indispensable in our opinion. AIS is a great safety addition, but I would not try long trips without radar. And traveling at night without radar is dangerous. The two together will make us feel much safer, especially in fog.
@@tryingnottosink9107 Some waters, night travel even with radar is dangerous, a flir camera is the tool then. Forward Looking Infra Red = FLIR.
Here in the PNW, the flotsam often found in the waters make night travel without infra-red camera a real hazard. floating logs don't show on radar that well, they show well enough on infra red. ( and logs don't show on ais at all ;) )
It is one of the best pieces of safety equipment that you can buy. It is compulsary to have one in many countries.
We put in the same Vesper 8K w/splitter system this spring. The unit comes with it's own GPS antenna, because Class B AIS transponders must have a dedicated GPS and can't share one with another unit. They cannot use NMEA-0183 data from another GPS. This is a type approval certification requirement.
We don't do much 'out of the ICW' cruising, so the collision avoidance aspect isn't such a big deal to us - though I do like to check my 'three minute rule' calculated time to CPA against the box (so I know where I'll be when we're at CPA - skinny water/fat water, other traffic). We have ours feeding the SIMRAD NSS12 evo3 chartplotter via the NMEA 2K, and going to NAVIONICS and AQUA MAP on the tablets via WiFi. The WatchMate app is a good quick place to get a big picture look around you - it also has a good anchor watch feature.
The biggest advantage we've seen since adding our AIS last spring (we have the same Vesper 8K w/splitter) is the improved response to VHF calls when you can actually use a boat's name vice trying to hail "Blue Sailboat approaching marker ##". Granted, a Captain who installs a AIS is probably more likely to be VHF knowledgeable, and presumably more likely to be paying attention to their VHF and respond when called.
Hailing commercial is even better. I get the impression professional Captains prefer being hailed by name vice "tug & tow" and like being able to see us on AIS too. Those two things seem to help us pick up a couple 'respect' points when proposing overtaking/passing maneuvers.
Thanks for the information. We did not know that about the GPS antenna. We look forward to using the AIS. There have been many times on the water where we struggled to see a boats name to hail it, or just wondered what one of the big ships was called. Like anything, I am sure there will be a learning curve but we think it was a wise investment.
That is very nice equipment to have on your boat you can see where other boats are and they can see you always a plus when navigating love the videos
Very true! Thanks for watching.
Great idea adding it to the boat. It's good to see other craft and be seen by others, especially in bad weather conditions.
Very true!
I love seeing people do their own work. My friends always tease me for working on all my vehicles. I enjoy doing the work myself that way I know it's done right.
Our families first boat was a used one. We were at the Annapolis boat show looking to buy a new boat. We've met this salesman who worked at different locations of the dealership. They strongly suggested that for our very first boat a used one would be a better fit. They started talking about the one they had just taken in on a trade in that their customer moved up to a bigger size. They started talking about all the upgrades that were already done how he was so meticulous on everything he did. When they sent us to the dealership to look at it I thought we were going to see a statue of this customer who just traded in his boat. That's how much they were bragging on him.
We decided to buy it took a test drive everything seemed to be okay with me. At that time I didn't know much about what I was looking at. We didn't make boat friends until we bought a boat lol.
With how late in the season the Annapolis boat show is we only got a chance to take our new boat out just a few times before needing to winterize it.
Now we're in March of a new year and it was extremely warm for March. So we decided to take our boat out. Everything went fine as the boat went into the water. Everything was still fine as were flying down the bay heading to a restaurant on the water. That's when things started acting up. You would turn the lights on the horn would blow you hit another switch the dashboard would go dead. When we made it back to the dock I physically disconnected all the batteries not trusting the switches.
The following weekend I went down to the boat with all my electrical connections and tools. What I saw when I started taking into the electric was so horrible it was almost like somebody was playing a practical joke on you. Not one single piece of electrical tape. The previous owner the one that the dealership was praising had used masking tape instead of electrical. As anybody who has ever used masking tape it breaks down over time depending on the circumstances that it's used in. There were wires touching other wires nothing at all was marked. I spent days straightening out all the electric issues. All of my friends kept on telling me just to pay someone to do it that I had the money and didn't need to do it myself. Like I said in the beginning I like doing my own work so I know it's done right. For what they charge at the marinas to work on boats you can buy shop manuals that will give you all your torque specs and tell you how to take something apart.
I really love when I see people like yourself not afraid to jump in there.
Look forward to your next video.
Thanks for the story. Doing your own work is the best way to really learn the boat. Plus, I would rather save the money and spend it on fuel, or upgrades.
Love your channel. Thanks for doing it
Glad you enjoy it!
Definately worth it! I found it to be very useful in a couple of situations, including identifying a vessel coming toward us when we coming around a blind bend. FYI, the apps will usually show the MMSI number until it knows the name of a boat. Based on the AIS standards, the position and MMSI number is transmitted more often than the name and other details. Typically you will see the MMSI numbers appear first in the apps when you first turn on the AIS, but then after a few minutes the names start to appear.
Thanks for the info Mark. I will check when I return to the boat this weekend and see if the apps have updated the names. I am sure the AIS will come in handy when I get back to Ft Lauderdale. I am always nervous going around turns on New River.
That's similar to what I was thinking regarding the identification issues, although I was leaning towards more of what the transmitting (remote) boat operator had told his AIS system to broadcast. For example, I can see an operator limiting his AIS transmitter to sending out ONLY the registration information, not necessarily the boat name.
Very smart upgrade...adds safety and better visibility to your voyages. Boats can now call you by name if they need to pass on traffic issues or other navigation concerns, and the Coast Guard likes when vessels have these installed.
We agree. Thanks!
Looking forward to on the water testing.
Awesome Nice Bit of Kit all ways a good plan to up date the older stuff Great Vlog thanks
Thanks 👍 Glad you enjoyed the video.
I added it to my chart plotter on a cruise from Seattle to Long Beach, CA. It was very useful at night to identify fishing boats off the coast of Oregon.
We are excited to have it on the boat for our next trip.
Very interesting video, I have pondered installing A.I.S for sometime now. I look forward to any updates you might post once you become familiar with the unit.
Thanks, will do!
Too bad it’s so expensive.
If you could get a package including a simple cable and antenna, and that has a NMEA 2000 connection for a total of less than $2-300, then I would guess more people would have it. If there also was a cheap personal AIS transponder for SUP, RIB etc. that would help A LOT!
Looks kind of complicated, I can’t even figure out how to stop my VCR flashing 12:00... 🤪
Truth, Dawg!
I think that you need to get someone that knows electronics to eliminate a lot of that excess cabling, inverters, and wires to make your electrical system work better, and generate less heat. You would be surprised how cables/wires rolled up or a bunch of old wires and cables can cause issues with electronics. But yes, AIS is an important tool for boating safety.
It is a project for the future. I think I will start by removing more of the electronics that are no longer being used. Like that Northstar.
First thing I did whenI bought our boat in the PNW, was to replace the receive only AIS with a transponder AIS.
I want others to see us on the water.
We like that as well.
I feel that AIS is worth it because it helps a lot in fog travel. I just upgraded AIS on my boat for 800 dollars
That is why Lyn wanted it - for fog and overnight cruises.
Always important to remember that AIS only shows you vessels that are transmitting, and you only 'appear' to others using AIS. It can help in the fog, but sound signals should always be your primary means of detecting other vessels.
I got caught in a huge fog bank off the coast of Nantucket last year and I really wish I had one of these. I’m gonna have to look into it. Radar was helpful, AIS would have been great to have too though.
We haven't needed it yet but it is also fun to have.
I guess one of your next big projects will be going under the console and rewire/remove unused devices. A fan might feel good under there too. Would love to see that video on the refit of the console wiring. Hello from thailand
as a fan goes, i would use a pc fan, you can get them very cheap, a good one about 45.00 and pushes some good air. 300-450 fpm and all dc, and under .06 amps
Hopefully, that will be one of our winter projects. We have good friends from Bangkok. We hope to visit with them next year.
Great job guys. I try and follow the boats that I follow if they have ais on the navionics app.
I used to be a communications tech. When you were installing the splitter, there was a length of coax that was coiled. I’m not sure if you left it that way. Although it’s not a lot of power going out, it is always best not to leave it in a loop like that as it can create some rf issues with electronics. Also, it looked like you ran everything else loose. That is good. You don’t want to zip tie it to power wires when doing a run like that.
Al in all great job. Now I just need to add your boat name on my avionics so I can follow you too.
Not sure what the coax cable is for. I'll check it out next time I am under the helm. Our boat should be listed as "Triton."
Former Radar tech here (recently 19 years in broadcast TV) and I agree 100% on not putting power and data lines in the same bundle whenever possible. Depending on the frequency/data rate it _shouldn't_ be a major issue coiling the RF/coax into a fairly LOOSE loop until you're sure about your installation locations. Of course once you're positive your gear is where you want it, then cut to fit with a short service loop is best.
I run radar and AIS in the fog here in the PNW. I note the the AIS position lags the radar position on targets somewhat due to the way AIS works. Important that you not rely exactly on the AIS position due to this lag.
Class B AIS can be very slow ,it's useful but not 100% reliable given that you may not be exactly where other boats think you are according to your signal . Class A though expensive , is far more accurate.
U.S.Coast Guard and U.S. Navy aircraft have AIS on board and have been known to high five SV Delos (with AIS) and come up on 16 to say hello. Nothing better then then having the USCG and USN watching your back.
We were once hailed by an aircraft carrier in Norfolk. They were giving us a head's up that they were going to cut across our bow to dock. It was exciting, to me.
very cool always good stuff thanks Les
Glad you enjoyed it
We have the same unit. We also have the external alarm. The boat names are broadcast less often than the MMSI number, speed, direction data. So that maybe why you aren't getting them immediately on your other apps. One other feature we use and absolutely love, is the anchor alarm. It gives me peace of mind and I know it will tell me if we are dragging.
Thanks for the info. How did you wire the alarm? The diagram shows the positive going to the Vesper and the negative going to ground, yet the alarm as three terminals.
@@tryingnottosink9107 it's been a couple of years since I installed it. But if memory serves.
Positive wire from power source to one alarm terminal,.
Positive from Vesper to the other.
Negative from alarm to negative bus bar.
I'm from Minnesota, the boat is shrink wrapped for the winter. Won't be able to verify that until April.
Yes it is if you sent back .
So not only received but send to.
And for the rest a radar systeem.
Working and use the alarm systeem if sombody is to close to your boat
So you can sleep onbourd .
I use ais and radar systeem .
What do you think of Garmin? It seems that you can connect almost everything together with there display
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I do not know much about them. I am sure they work great. I just wanted an AIS that worked through wifi.
That electrical system is a mess, I had the same problem with my Luhrs 250. Made it nearly impossible to trace out some of the electrical faults in the system. Over time I ripped out and revamped the system removing the unused wiring and the bundles of extra wire. Yes it was a ton of work but it made the system much easier to maintain and more reliable.
It is on my project list for the winter. Not very high up on the list though. 😁
@@tryingnottosink9107 As a (former) USN Electronics Technician that mess of a wiring harness is going to give me nightmares. I have no idea how much of your current electronics can be connected via some version of Ethernet or CanBus but just think of the weight savings you could gain if even half of it could be. And MOST of that weight is up fairly high, so moving your CG lower would be a definite win-win!
Hello Guy's always enjoy the video's quick question for you at 6:18 you show a white Trawler would you know who made that I can't pin it down
Thanks Len
Thanks for watching. I do not know what brand of Trawler that is. It just showed up at the marina and I have not met the owner yet. It looks on the older side.
Great video as usual. Look who made a guest appearance 😉
Pretty soon I'll have to pay you scale!
15A should be plenty to power a couple radios! I’d be careful if you add anything else though, radios are low power but when they transmit they can pull big peak power for a short time. But this looks sweet!
So far it is working well.
Hi Ed. Love your videos. We hope to follow in your footsteps in 4 years and just bought the Carver 466 for that purpose. I noticed that I have the same ZF electronic throttle controls as you. Mine are wired so that they never turn off, which drives me nuts. Are yours the same? If not, could you send me a pick of the wiring to the ignition. So far I haven’t found anyone who can help. Rich on Knowing Knot.
The 466 is a great boat Congratulations. Our throttle has a breaker on a 32 volt panel in the engine room, along with the radar and other items needed while underway. We just throw the main panel breaker when we get to port. They also have individual on/off switches in the corresponding engine rooms. I do not know exactly how they are wired since they were on the boat when we bought it. The rest of the 32 volt systems (heads, pumps, etc) are on a separate panel that we leave on all the time.
Loved your "autopilot" or lookout sitting at the lower helm which I saw as you went to the top helm.( or is he / she your security watch/ guard ?) AIS, Great investment for your own security at sea .
Lyn says I do not feed the crew enough to eat! 😁
Great addition and installation. BTW, what kind of oven is that in the galley? Thanks!!
Here's the link
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Lyn loves it, and it was not expensive.
Good info, Thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Does AIS allow you to see other vessels that do not have AIS installed on their own boats? OR is that why radar appears to be indispensable ?
No, just boats that have a AIS transponder. So, yes radar is crucial.
What name should we look for on the AIS?
Triton. However, it is currently turned off since I am not at the boat.
Hi Ed, i heard that you have to program each one to get your boats info showing don't know if this is true or not. Here in the PNW, the coast gaurd was talking about putting AIS transponders on all of their bouy's cause most boaters don't have radar but do the ais. so yea i feel that having both would be a back up to the back ups.
Yes, ours was preprogramed by the seller (Defender). We has to get a registration number first, through FCC or Insurance company.
If I'm not mistaken,the name will show up on others that have an ais and the ones that dont, show a (vessel registration?) number.
I also found that the names sometimes show up a few minutes later, as if the system has to cycle.
There mighta been some kinda upgrade to the system...just wanted to contribute with a little insight.
There was a James Bond joke in there - "Hand me the Vesper, Lyn(d)".
😁😁😎
I loved the helmsman you had on the ship. I have seen VHF radios that have the AIS installed on them, are they any good ?
I believe that's only for emergency situations I'm not real sure on that mine had a ride button that said a is on it
I do not know. Our radio uses AIS but I haven't even looked at it yet.
I replaced all the TVs with smart TV i assed CCTV Man its important to have AC on the Bridge it helps the electronics
We stay cool on our bridge, even without AC. Unless we have a following wind. Then it gets a bit hot.
Sweet
Be aware that class B AIS can be slow , when viewed on a video plotter the on screen boat approaching that has class B often jumps considerable distances between transmission . Class A , though expensive , is far more efficient .
If using class B don't assume larger ships are actually receiving your exact position , we know you are out there certainly but it's not 100% accurate and can go minutes without updating.
Thanks for the heads-up. That is good to know.
In Thailand its mandatory !
8 months late but Happy Birthday
Thanks!
Why wouldn't you buy the Furuno AIS?
We wanted one that had wifi and could be seen on our tablets. I believe this will be visible on the Furuno once I get a backbone hooked up.
@@tryingnottosink9107 ok makes sense.
Trying to find you on ais, no luck so far?
It is currently wired so that it is only on when the boat's 32 volt system is turned on. I will probably be changing that. However, I heard that the last reported location should remain on AIS, but I haven't checked yet. It should be listed as "Triton."
Thank you, I'll keep looking I'd like to follow along. I enjoy your videos.
is this better than the Garmin unit?
I don't know. It is the only one we ever had. We liked that it was wifi.
I love it because I can track you people on Marine Traffic - a super APP. Cant find you two.
It is currently turned off. We typically turn off unnecessary battery powered electronics when we leave the boat for a few days.
We were on the fence and never regretted getting ais.
We feel good about it.
will it show you where the coast guard is on the ais?
I do not know. We haven't seen a Coast Guard boat yet.
@@tryingnottosink9107 Before COVID I it was like every 3rd boat ride they would board me for a safety inspection. Drives me nuts. It's like come on guys, the life jackets, flares and throwable device are in the same place they were the last time.
I can see why a girl would like a splutter, double the safety. Living on the coast I like to watch the ships sail past and found marinetraffic DOT com really useful.
We agree!
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It is very inexpensive when you take navigation safety into account, excellent investment.
We agree!
i just bought the exact unit, sitting on the counter waiting to be installed
It wasn't too bad. The wiring diagrams for the alarm and power switch suck. I haven't figure it out yet, which is why it was not in the video.
I know on on my Boat all the Electronics was up graded in 2017 and 18
New engines and Gen and water maker the guy added underwater lights he said it would surprize you what you see at night
The underwater lights are great in the Bahamas. Brings the sharks right over. We will probably install some the next time we are on the hard.
Roger out!
Change your smoke detector/CO detector battery.
That's the parrot.
You’re kidding right? AIS is a necessity not an option when at sea. Safety, courtesy and confidence. Knowing the name of a boat when calling on the VHF is a must. Calling “North bound white sailboat with the American flag on the stern” is a fail on the ICW. Transiting off shore at night it is a must. Just get one and be done with it.
It doesn't work off shore. Near shore is okay.
Oh? I use mine off shore all the time. 50 miles off shore up and down the Atlantic coast and all over the Bahamas.
I know when they installed all new electronics man a lot of empty space and its cooler
Change the batteries in your smoke detectors lol.
That is the parrot, no the smoke detector.
Ed, Elon Musk will call you soon to add you to his team.
LOL. That would be a mistake!
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