I really like the idea of common ancestor Pokémon. But I still absolutely love the paradoxes, I mean it gave us slither wing, that quickly became a top 5 fav of mine. So a mix of both I think would be the best. Getting old versions of single Pokémon which a few common ancestors Also a common ancestor between delphox and Zoroark (my top two favorite Pokémon of all time) would be really nice
I could see a common ancestor for the Gen 9 Doggos (Dachsbun Mabosstiff and Houndstone) It could be called something like Wolvarious (I had a bit of trouble coming up with the name lol) Wolvarious evolves to Dachsbun by adapting to help in farming villages. It helps in wheat farms, and overtime, it adapts to help the wheat grow. The smell of the wheat becomes one with its body during adaptation, which helps the wheat grow faster. Wolvarious evolves into Mabosstiff by adapting to life in dark, and sometimes harsh environments. It attempted many times to try and steal the hearts of trainers, in hopes of being by their side. The attempts fail, however, so Wolvarious spends time with others of its kind, like a gang. Their new gang-like lifestyle causes them to evolve into Masbosstiff. It still has a nice personality deep down, however. Lastly, Wolvarious evolves into Houndstone after an event which separated it from its trainer. In an attempt to find its way home to its beloved trainer, it sadly perishes from exhaustion and starvation. It’s soul was able to make it back to its trainer, however, who is devastated and misses their partner deeply. The soul, upon seeing this, tries to find a way to come back to its trainer in a new life. This leads to it finding many ways to reunite with its trainer, until it wanders into a graveyard. It goes inside, upset about not finding a way to reunite with its best friend, then slowly sinks inside a tombstone from its sorrow. It’s then reborn as Houndstone, who happily goes back to be with its trainer, both happy as can be to be reunited. This comment is probably insanely long now so I’m gonna end it off here lol.
These are all absolutely better than the normal, dinosaury Past Paradoxes. It brings out the similarities in different pokemon that nobody really sees!
I absolutely love this! Ancestry and evolution is such a fascinating topic as a whole, and relating it to a world as diverse as Pokémon opens up such a vast can of worms! Great designs, they could very believably be Pokémon, which is always a reassuring thing
Thank you so much! And I totally agree. I know we just got past paradox pokemon, but it would be so awesome to see gamefreak implement ancestry someday!
A common ancestor for the pikaclones as they already share enough traits to make it believable. If the other paradox mons were given multiple descendents Scream Tail: Small wings on its back resembling clefairy along with black ear tips. The hair is becomes more dream mist like and it has purple paws to reference the munna line. All three evolve with the moon stone and 2/3 use sleep based moves. Brute Bonnet: Make the pokeball patterns glow like Shiinotic when fighting along with having the limbs extend like breloom with legs like Toedscruel. Slither Wings:Antenna and an additional for coat near the neck like frosmoth. Also could see spikes and maybe a pinkish tail like wurmple as it already has traits of a pre-evolution. Sandy Shocks: Already has the iron fillings of Probopass/A-geodude but I could see the arm magnets resemlbing the giant magnet on A-golem's back. Also traits of Klingklang with the magnets being visibly different sizes along with a "belt" made of debris. Flutter Mane: Probably the hardest to explain but since Roaring moon gains traits of mega salamenfr have flutter mane gain traits of G-max hatterene with a cage like lower body and the gem stones around the neck being closer to Hatternes. Also have two of the hair piece function as hands like gourgiest. Roaring Moon: A tail like club of Kommo-mo along with scale patterns. Could see axe like red tipped formations near the rave along with red-tipped claws like Haxours
Thank you! All of the seal pokemon are so cute, I'd love to make an ancestor for all of them someday! A rabbit ancestor would also be so good. Thank you for your suggestions!
Yoooooooo, this is so cool! Not only the idea itself, but how you executed it, making each design look good AND make sense with the traits being passed down!
Omg that's what I was doing for my ideas too!! I’m so glad someone else is doing this idea like it makes sense because some dinosaurs or ancient mammals can be ancestors to another species of animal in a way!
Fun fact Hyenas are more closely related to cats than to wolves thus a mightyena paradox form would be a ancestors to pyroar incinaroar rather than houndoom or Lycanroc
I like this idea a lot, it works well with the whole evolution thing. Seeing as many of these are based on fully evolved Pokémon, perhaps some pre-evolutions would make sense.
I love how all of these have clear elements of the pokémon they would become, but still look clearly like their own thing. Reminds me of how, as a kid, I could always swear that Kabutops just _had_ to be an ancestor of Scyther.
Titanthos looks pretty tough, wouldn;t want to mess with them Kitsukoten looks so cool, it's very different from the fox pokemon we have but still has that friend energy to it well done. Feroxodon was pretty out of left field but looks pretty great Basilurge looks pretty cool with the samml range of colours, despite looking ferocious his sharp mouth just looks like you want to give him a bone sort of energy. Eicetus , when I first saw them I loved them, I have been liking seals more and more as I get older. To nail it down I like Kitsukoten the most due to me fox bias but Elcetus would be my second choice.
You should continue doing this tbh. Id like to see an ancestor of both Archen and Tyrantrum, or a shared, land dwelling relative of Relicanth and the -vish Pokemon!
Great video, i can tell youdid a lot of research and I love that!! I'm someone who always reads the Pokedex entries and likes learning about the Pokemon world geographically and biologically
👏👏👏👏 yet another amazing video my favourite would probably have to be the last one (mostly because I like Dinosaurs) and I learnt something new I never knew hippos were closer than sharks
I think that Copperajah actually being from Galar inssstead of sssome faraway region we haven’t heard of yet should work. There isss a very big mining indussstry there!
Thank you! I'm glad you liked how Feroxodon turned out! It was fun to draw and see how many similarities there already were between Sharpedo and Garchomp 😄
I love yout videos and your art! It would be incredible to have a common ancester betwen clefable, wigglytuff, blissey, audino. etc... (srry for my bad english, Im still learning)
I really like the idea! Though, one note. Hisuian Zoroark probably should be considered to be a sub-species of the regular Zoroark, rather than Kitsukoten's descendant. Iirc the pokedex mentions that the Hisuian forms of these mons are basically Zoruas that didn't survive in the harsh weather conditions of Hisui and came back to life in their ghostly form Edit: Same goes for Alolan Ninetales I think, since otherwise it would be considered a convergent evolution (Basically having the same physical features while not being related as species. Like sharks and dolphins)
Thank you! And that's a good note. I figured I'd just include the the regional variants to explain how they may have gotten some different traits that their original counterparts didn't have for fun! Like how 2 dogs could have an offspring that don't have traits from either parents, but it's something that came from a granparent/great-grandparent type thing 😄
Well arctic foxes and red foxes are related, so Ninetales doesn't count here imo as a convergent evolution Edit:. Oh I completely misunderstood, yeah Ninetales is regional adaptation
This may be fox bias, but Kitsukoten is my favorite of these by far, good job I am a simple woman who loves foxes Though I kinda wish Eevee was part of it too, but I guess it's not entirely a fox. Eevee is a little bit of everything(fox, domestic dog, cat, bnuuy, etc) If you do an ancestor of other canine pokemon, I hope you separate them like ancestor of wolves and domestic dogs is different than the ancestor of, say, Lucario I only ask, since foxes are still canines, so separating them from other canine pokemon wouldn't make much sense
Thank you! I'm glad you liked how Kitsukoten turned out 😄 Yeah that's exactly why I didn't include Eevee in this one! Too many varied opinions on what they're based on lol I'll keep that in mind, thank you! Separating Lucario from that because of the Anubis/jackal inspo, right?
I like your idea for common ancestor Pokémon. However, a past elephant Pokémon cannot include Mamoswine because the Mamoswine evolution line are pig-related. It's why they have "swine" in their name. Mamoswine would share a common ancestor with Emboar and Grumpig. The past fox Pokémon looks good as a concept. A part of me wants to guess that you want to only have a small number of Pokémon sharing common ancestors since you didn't include Eevee and its evolution line. The cetacean ancestor Pokémon looks neat, as does the ancestor to the sharks & rays.
Thank you! And I appreciate your feedback! Yeah it was difficult to decide whether or not to include Mamoswine for the elephant ancestor or not! I figured either way there would be people who would want to see it because the final stage is partly based on the mammoth, but then others who would rather it not be included because of the pig inspiration. Very tricky when it's got 2 animal inspos going on 😅 Not including the Eevee line was also a bit tricky. I ended up not including any elements from the line into the fox ancestor since I've heard people call Eevee and it's evolution so many different animals like foxes, dogs, cats and rabbits. Since the inspiration behind those pokemon is so varied amongst the community, I thought I would just keep them as their own thing lol
I love these way more than any of the Paradoxes. Clear ancestry, without feeling so direct or "generic dino".
Thank you so much! 😊
I love them
Alternative title: "What if the Pokemon franchise actually knew what the word Evolution meant"
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You know paradox mons are not true ancasters?
That would probably get more clickx 😂
They've hinted at Darwinian evolution before. Like the "Pika-clones"
I really like the idea of common ancestor Pokémon. But I still absolutely love the paradoxes, I mean it gave us slither wing, that quickly became a top 5 fav of mine.
So a mix of both I think would be the best. Getting old versions of single Pokémon which a few common ancestors
Also a common ancestor between delphox and Zoroark (my top two favorite Pokémon of all time) would be really nice
Yeah it would be awesome if we got to keep our current paradox pokemon, as well as get common ancestors some day!
I could see a common ancestor for the Gen 9 Doggos (Dachsbun Mabosstiff and Houndstone)
It could be called something like Wolvarious (I had a bit of trouble coming up with the name lol)
Wolvarious evolves to Dachsbun by adapting to help in farming villages. It helps in wheat farms, and overtime, it adapts to help the wheat grow. The smell of the wheat becomes one with its body during adaptation, which helps the wheat grow faster.
Wolvarious evolves into Mabosstiff by adapting to life in dark, and sometimes harsh environments. It attempted many times to try and steal the hearts of trainers, in hopes of being by their side. The attempts fail, however, so Wolvarious spends time with others of its kind, like a gang. Their new gang-like lifestyle causes them to evolve into Masbosstiff. It still has a nice personality deep down, however.
Lastly, Wolvarious evolves into Houndstone after an event which separated it from its trainer. In an attempt to find its way home to its beloved trainer, it sadly perishes from exhaustion and starvation. It’s soul was able to make it back to its trainer, however, who is devastated and misses their partner deeply. The soul, upon seeing this, tries to find a way to come back to its trainer in a new life. This leads to it finding many ways to reunite with its trainer, until it wanders into a graveyard. It goes inside, upset about not finding a way to reunite with its best friend, then slowly sinks inside a tombstone from its sorrow. It’s then reborn as Houndstone, who happily goes back to be with its trainer, both happy as can be to be reunited.
This comment is probably insanely long now so I’m gonna end it off here lol.
Oh my goodness the Houndstone story though 😭 I love what you came up with! I was invested reading. And I like the name Wolvarious!
I know this has nothing to do whit your comment, but I agree whit your channel description. Oshawott supremacy!!!!
These are all absolutely better than the normal, dinosaury Past Paradoxes. It brings out the similarities in different pokemon that nobody really sees!
Thank you! I'm glad you liked the concept and how the pokemon turned out 😄
These guys are amazing! I especially love Kitsukoten, it gives off chaotic energy and I love it.
Thank you! Chaotic energy is exactly what I was hoping would come through in the art 😂
I absolutely love this!
Ancestry and evolution is such a fascinating topic as a whole, and relating it to a world as diverse as Pokémon opens up such a vast can of worms!
Great designs, they could very believably be Pokémon, which is always a reassuring thing
Thank you so much! And I totally agree. I know we just got past paradox pokemon, but it would be so awesome to see gamefreak implement ancestry someday!
A common ancestor for the pikaclones as they already share enough traits to make it believable.
If the other paradox mons were given multiple descendents
Scream Tail: Small wings on its back resembling clefairy along with black ear tips. The hair is becomes more dream mist like and it has purple paws to reference the munna line. All three evolve with the moon stone and 2/3 use sleep based moves.
Brute Bonnet: Make the pokeball patterns glow like Shiinotic when fighting along with having the limbs extend like breloom with legs like Toedscruel.
Slither Wings:Antenna and an additional for coat near the neck like frosmoth. Also could see spikes and maybe a pinkish tail like wurmple as it already has traits of a pre-evolution.
Sandy Shocks: Already has the iron fillings of Probopass/A-geodude but I could see the arm magnets resemlbing the giant magnet on A-golem's back. Also traits of Klingklang with the magnets being visibly different sizes along with a "belt" made of debris.
Flutter Mane: Probably the hardest to explain but since Roaring moon gains traits of mega salamenfr have flutter mane gain traits of G-max hatterene with a cage like lower body and the gem stones around the neck being closer to Hatternes. Also have two of the hair piece function as hands like gourgiest.
Roaring Moon: A tail like club of Kommo-mo along with scale patterns. Could see axe like red tipped formations near the rave along with red-tipped claws like Haxours
Great ideas! 😊
This is SUCH a cool concept! I love how you illustrated it, and I love the designs.
Thank you! 😃
I love how you describe hippos and whales being closely related as they both evolved from wolf-like river dwellers
Kitsukoten is so fluffin' cool!
Thank you! 😄
Please make more of these! They are so well done and creative! Id also love to see ancestors of spheal or all the different rabbit pokemon!
Thank you! All of the seal pokemon are so cute, I'd love to make an ancestor for all of them someday! A rabbit ancestor would also be so good. Thank you for your suggestions!
Yoooooooo, this is so cool! Not only the idea itself, but how you executed it, making each design look good AND make sense with the traits being passed down!
Thank you so much! 😄
This could easily be the new gimmick for gen 2 legends remake ( if it happens)
I really liked this video, the explanations and design were really good
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed the video! 😊
Finally a new video ❤🎉🎉
Lovely work as always!
Aww thank you! 😭
Omg that's what I was doing for my ideas too!! I’m so glad someone else is doing this idea like it makes sense because some dinosaurs or ancient mammals can be ancestors to another species of animal in a way!
That's so cool that you were thinking the same thing! Would love to see what you come up with! 😄
Fun fact Hyenas are more closely related to cats than to wolves thus a mightyena paradox form would be a ancestors to pyroar incinaroar rather than houndoom or Lycanroc
Now we just need the future ones!
Love your arts just discovered your channel you deserve more subs ngl
Aww thank you so much! 😭
I like this idea a lot, it works well with the whole evolution thing. Seeing as many of these are based on fully evolved Pokémon, perhaps some pre-evolutions would make sense.
Glad you liked the idea! 😄
Loved this concept! Way better than the paradox who just become dinosaurs, really wish Gamefreak would do something like this
This is far more interesting and makes much more sense than any of the Paradox pokemon. Thanks for making the video.
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it 😄
I absolutely love this !
Thank you! Glad you liked the video! 😄
You did a great job combining aspects of each.
Thank you! 😊
Feroxodon is really well designed
Thank you so much! 😄
I love how all of these have clear elements of the pokémon they would become, but still look clearly like their own thing. Reminds me of how, as a kid, I could always swear that Kabutops just _had_ to be an ancestor of Scyther.
Oh my goodness, I thought the exact same thing about Kabutops when I was a kid! 😂 Thank you so much!
I love these concepts but are we just gonna ignore that you said you thought sharks, which are fish, would be closely related to mammals?
Ya never know until ya know 🤷
Great work! Loved the shark one and how fierce it looks. The dolphin one was cool but I feel it could have been fatter.
Thank you! I'm glad you liked how Feroxodon turned out 😄
I'd love to see common ancestry for wolf and dog pokemon and maybe some common ancestry for other canine pokemon
I'll keep note of that for the future! 😊
Titanthos looks pretty tough, wouldn;t want to mess with them
Kitsukoten looks so cool, it's very different from the fox pokemon we have but still has that friend energy to it well done.
Feroxodon was pretty out of left field but looks pretty great
Basilurge looks pretty cool with the samml range of colours, despite looking ferocious his sharp mouth just looks like you want to give him a bone sort of energy.
Eicetus , when I first saw them I loved them, I have been liking seals more and more as I get older.
To nail it down I like Kitsukoten the most due to me fox bias but Elcetus would be my second choice.
Thank you so much! It's great to hear that you liked all of the designs 😄
You should continue doing this tbh. Id like to see an ancestor of both Archen and Tyrantrum, or a shared, land dwelling relative of Relicanth and the -vish Pokemon!
What If We Gave Existing a Pokémon Descendants?
Great video, i can tell youdid a lot of research and I love that!! I'm someone who always reads the Pokedex entries and likes learning about the Pokemon world geographically and biologically
Thank you so much! 😄
This is such a Great Idea! Will there also be future ones?
Thank you! I honestly hadn't thought that far ahead lol but that's a really cool idea! I'll keep it in mind for the future 😄
For the future for the future paradox Mon 😄
you made the kitsune pokemon i've been wanting my whole life! T.T
Oh my goodness, I'm so happy to hear that! 😭Glad you liked that one!
I love the shark drawing, looked so cool
Thank you! 😄
such a delightful idea for a video :)
Aww thank you so much! 😊
That's such a better idea. Its insane
The loss of the snout and ears makes even more sense because it would be very hard to keep them from getting frostbite.
Great point!
👏👏👏👏 yet another amazing video my favourite would probably have to be the last one (mostly because I like Dinosaurs) and I learnt something new I never knew hippos were closer than sharks
Thank you! I'm really glad Eocetus was your favorite! 😊Out of all of the designs, it was the one I was most worried people wouldn't like as much.
This is so cool!!!
Thank you! 😄
Abra line: *cries* I'm a fox too
I hope the legends games in the future (which hopefully we’re getting) do this.
That would be awesome!
I think that Copperajah actually being from Galar inssstead of sssome faraway region we haven’t heard of yet should work. There isss a very big mining indussstry there!
oooh i really like these! my fav is feroxodon
Thank you! I'm glad you liked how Feroxodon turned out! It was fun to draw and see how many similarities there already were between Sharpedo and Garchomp 😄
I love yout videos and your art! It would be incredible to have a common ancester betwen clefable, wigglytuff, blissey, audino. etc...
(srry for my bad english, Im still learning)
Thank you so much! Really like that common ancestor idea! 😄
Can you tell us the stats, abilities and typing of these Fakemon
Try to do speculative evolution with the future paradoxes!!
That would be very fun! 😄
I would really like an ancestor of Pikachu and pika-clones cool video btw🎉🎉
I'll add the idea to my list! Maybe I can include a pika-clone ancestor in the future 😄
I really like the idea! Though, one note. Hisuian Zoroark probably should be considered to be a sub-species of the regular Zoroark, rather than Kitsukoten's descendant. Iirc the pokedex mentions that the Hisuian forms of these mons are basically Zoruas that didn't survive in the harsh weather conditions of Hisui and came back to life in their ghostly form
Edit: Same goes for Alolan Ninetales I think, since otherwise it would be considered a convergent evolution (Basically having the same physical features while not being related as species. Like sharks and dolphins)
Thank you! And that's a good note. I figured I'd just include the the regional variants to explain how they may have gotten some different traits that their original counterparts didn't have for fun! Like how 2 dogs could have an offspring that don't have traits from either parents, but it's something that came from a granparent/great-grandparent type thing 😄
Well arctic foxes and red foxes are related, so Ninetales doesn't count here imo as a convergent evolution
Edit:. Oh I completely misunderstood, yeah Ninetales is regional adaptation
@@peripatcheshey as long as you have fun making it, it doesn't really matter what creative liberties you take
Please do a part 2, I like to see bugs Pokémon ancestors 🙏💯
As long as the community likes this, I'd love to do a part 2!
@@peripatches You should do one for the future with descendants
Monkey ancestor...
There are a lot of monkeys...
Elemental, ambidextrous, aggressive, the variety is large.
Very cool 😎 I love them all ❤❤❤
Thank you so much! 😭
@@peripatches your very welcome 😊
The first ones shiny is just great tusk
9:45 What's this animal called?
Also, AWWWWWWW, this Fakemon has whiskers!
It's based on the Pakicetus! I'm glad you liked how that one turned out 😄
What would you think of kyogre Ancestor?
Do a chorizzard , flash toys and and a bopa sword
You ate this sis
Thank you! 😄
Kyogre shouldve been included in the Dolphin line it's based on an Orca
I mean, it's a legendary pokemon so it doesnt really count, but ik what you mean
What about all the Pikaclones? It feels pretty obvious they are all closely related.
Just made a short on that! 😄 ruclips.net/user/shortsblWr6Uw3wQU?si=Bd0zOn4ob_AS1fNp
That's literally that deadbedspread did
Yeah the ones they came up with were awesome! The community has made lots of neat ideas with the ancestor concept over the years😄
This may be fox bias, but Kitsukoten is my favorite of these by far, good job
I am a simple woman who loves foxes
Though I kinda wish Eevee was part of it too, but I guess it's not entirely a fox. Eevee is a little bit of everything(fox, domestic dog, cat, bnuuy, etc)
If you do an ancestor of other canine pokemon, I hope you separate them like ancestor of wolves and domestic dogs is different than the ancestor of, say, Lucario
I only ask, since foxes are still canines, so separating them from other canine pokemon wouldn't make much sense
Thank you! I'm glad you liked how Kitsukoten turned out 😄
Yeah that's exactly why I didn't include Eevee in this one! Too many varied opinions on what they're based on lol
I'll keep that in mind, thank you! Separating Lucario from that because of the Anubis/jackal inspo, right?
@@peripatches basically, yeah. And np
Good luck though
I like your idea for common ancestor Pokémon.
However, a past elephant Pokémon cannot include Mamoswine because the Mamoswine evolution line are pig-related. It's why they have "swine" in their name. Mamoswine would share a common ancestor with Emboar and Grumpig.
The past fox Pokémon looks good as a concept. A part of me wants to guess that you want to only have a small number of Pokémon sharing common ancestors since you didn't include Eevee and its evolution line.
The cetacean ancestor Pokémon looks neat, as does the ancestor to the sharks & rays.
Thank you! And I appreciate your feedback!
Yeah it was difficult to decide whether or not to include Mamoswine for the elephant ancestor or not! I figured either way there would be people who would want to see it because the final stage is partly based on the mammoth, but then others who would rather it not be included because of the pig inspiration. Very tricky when it's got 2 animal inspos going on 😅
Not including the Eevee line was also a bit tricky. I ended up not including any elements from the line into the fox ancestor since I've heard people call Eevee and it's evolution so many different animals like foxes, dogs, cats and rabbits. Since the inspiration behind those pokemon is so varied amongst the community, I thought I would just keep them as their own thing lol
YEASSAAAAAAAAAH
Mamoswine is technically a pig tho
So basically this video is "What if the Paradox Pokemon were ACTUAL ancestors and not just imagined exaggerations". Cool!
Thanks! I'm glad you liked the concept! 😄
First love it so much too much even
Thank you! So glad you like the video 😄
Ancestor for all unicorn and horse and zebra pokemon🦄🦓🐎🐴
I think you should scrap hisuian soroark's back story, we all know it's back story already and it is *_death_*
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