Best frame ever. As for compartments on the ruck? one large compartment is a nightmare at night with no light. Sacrificing space in compartment accessibility is a consideration over knowing and feeling the equipment you need right away when you need it. Could mean life or death in some situations. Nice collection you got there of the awesome A.L.IC.E my fave is the nylon O.D you got hanging on the end. Heheh
Thank You Vince! I was very pleasantly surprised how many newly manufactured items are available for the ALICE packs and frames. Very few packs have that kind of longevity. From everything that I have seen, One could purchase everything to assemble a complete system new, without ever adding any surplus parts to it. FireForce Gear actually offers newly manufactured packs (Medium or Large) in Multicam, MARPAT or Woodland. Your choice of original ALICE Hardware or Updated Fastex/ MOLLE. I never would have thought this veteran pack system would have this long, viable life span. Vince, thank you very much for your subscription and comment! Have a fantastic day!
As a welder by trade and a veteran, I have been contemplating taking an Alice frame and remove the paint from all the riveted points and breakout a Tig welder and weld all the joints and never have to worry about rivers ever again. The tactical tailor frame and the TAG AGAF are bothe welded frames.
@@boonedockery7220 I wonder if you could use those aluminum rods that get advertised all over Facebook the is like soldering and you just use a torch and the aluminum rods 🤔
I picked up a brand new one the other day from a retired marine. It has never been used at all and everything is in perfect condition. Got it for $80 and was happy to pay it.
I used to have an old canvas Italian Mountain Rucksack. It ha one big main compartment and two smaller compartments each with an attached strap that was put through a buckle. It also had a chain on the inside and thick canvas shoulder straps with buckles for adjustments. That was my favorite rucksack/backpack. Too bad I had to throw it away bc my room got flooded by sewer water and it grew black mold on it.
Oh That Is Just Awful! I had a house fire several years ago and lost half of what I owned. It really surprised me which things I truly missed. Some folks might not think an old canvas pack is that big of a deal.... We know better. It's interesting how we can develop relationships with inanimate items, but we do. I know I have pieces of kit that I could talk for hours about our adventures together. I'm sorry for your lose. Some things are just irreplaceable.
Crazy as ruck ( _Edit_ ) In my research, your large Alice pack in non-OD is actually called 'camo green' and was selected to complement the green of the M81 woodland pattern. I didnt like it at first but I have really come to warm up to it a lot and I have my old LC-2 OD pack covered in camo green pouches and it really makes for a unique look. They also issued duffle bags in camo green.
Thank You!!! There are several in the works or already loaded and scheduled for viewing. Some Short, Some Long, But there will be several. I have really enjoyed making these ones!
Great video great sense of humor hopefully more videos will follow. BTW they actually make a rucksack strap for cinching down ammo cans to the rucksack frame and they work a heck of alot better than the straps you were using, not sure of the exact nomenclature but they have a metal buckle and flip back on themselves once they are tightened to make an "extremely tight" and secure strap. We had a saying in the 82nd Airborne Infantry a tight pack is a light pack. The actual weight itself doesn't change but the body mechanics and the energy it takes from your load bouncing around all the time wears you out a lot quicker
Thank You Phillip! I want those straps!!!!! Even if I can't find the actual "issue" straps, I can make them if I can find a photo of them. I have tons of buckle sources. One of my best friends was with the 82nd. He dropped on the airfield in Panama, and was one of the first to arrive in Kuwait during Desert Storm. I had already ETS'd prior to Panama. I learned a lot from him as far as hacks and methodologies! The 82nd is a unique group and their ever evolving SOPs are always a source of must know information. I agree 100% with the secure load concept! I have personally help new to the outdoors folks with their pack adjustments. After they put the pack back on they look at me like I'm some kind of sorcerer or something... Thank you for your service Phillip! Please share any information any time you can. Not only I would appreciate it but so would this ever growing family! Having good advice and information from multiple sources and background is a huge benefit to all that read these comments! Thanks again Phillip! I look foreword to hearing from you in the future!
Well John, that's what I would call over-the-top on backpacks. I have this disease but it rears it's ugly head on alcohol stoves - er- well camping stoves in general. I have several backpacks but only one in use at the moment and it is modern. It's just darn pretty to be truthful. And clean. It is my carry-on when I fly. I look all yuppy! I carry all the stuff I need to face the outdoors in my camper. That includes air conditioning and screens on the windows if I should open them. Oh, and a freezer for my ice cream. As I have said before, I live in South Texas where it is HOT, buggy, and someone will shoot you if you cross their land so I go glamping. And like you, my knees can't take what I use to do causally. Just turned 75 thank you very much. I do get out and carry stuff to go fishing beside a creek, called a river, with about 150 to 200 feet of a steep hill to get me there. Cardio for the day when fishing. Looking forward to watching your adventures on my iPad, lying on my queen size bed, in the a/c! Hang in the brother. Blessing, David
If your enjoying the outdoors at 75 in any way GOD BLESS YOU!!!! For me comfort and a good nights sleep is very important! There are a couple packs I have not yet taken to the woods. My new Ruck Frame Packs and my light weight Osprey pack. The Alice Frame packs will all see woods time within the next month. I also have A LOT of camp stoves!!!!! Keep On Enjoying The Outdoors Via Glamping Brother!!! God Bless You!!!
About 10 years ago I went on a hunt for some ALICE packs. Pretty much no surplus around me had any and the few they had were really beat up. I ended up at a shop about 1.5 hours away and they had a few milspec new med ones I got for about $50 each (frame and pack). I then hit ebay and built some Hellcats out of them. Oddly, one of them must not have been to milspec because the outside pockets were sewn all around and I just found out last week LOL. I knew a lot less about the packs then and was looking for affordable backpacking gear for short camping hikes. The nice thing about the way the pockets were typically done is that you can drop you hatchet through the gaps and don't have to really strap it down.
I apologize for the extremely late reply! For the time ALICE was designed, it was a very well thought out pack. When I was in the army, I had an issue machete with rubber sheath I attach to the webbing eyelets after I slid it behind the pocket. Great feature to keep things from flopping around. I put my ALICE series on the back burner, but I'll be continuing it in the spring. I still have a lot to try, test and share about this veteran workhorse! thanks for contributing to the conversation! Again, sorry for the late reply.
I have one, my company was using it as a radiobag and were gonna scrap it when the strap tore, so I took it and replaced the strap for 10$. Been using it as an overnight camping bag. Love it
In the early 60s, rifle squads carried a crummy AN/PRC-6, aka prick six. It was too big, too heavy and the range was short. I drove a jeep for the S4, so I had AN/VRC-18 radios which had a little bit better range, maybe 5 miles in hilly SE Germany. I presume modern infantry radios have progressed considerably. Ideally, every rifleman would be in radio touch with his/her chain of command along with a visual map display showing where the rest of the squad/platoon was at as well as the enemy.
Great video brother John!!! Love all the new kit!! That's a very easy rabbit hole for a lot of us to fall down!!🤣🤣 keep up the great work brother and fighting the good fight!! God bless you and yours brother and I pray you have a wonderful and truly blessed day 🙂👍🙏❤✝️🙂🙂🙂
Thank you Brother Jay!!!! Still working on the editing of our Island Hopping Video. It will be ready by next Sunday. Even though, I neglected "filming" to some degree to much better enjoy our adventure, I did get some good footage. God Bless You Brother Jay! May The Lords Blessings Shower Upon You And Yours!🙏✝👍😀
Hi bud! Hey man, i've been watching all your vids after subbing recently. i think you're my favorite gear/outdoors/woodsman etc GUY at this point. 😂 don't tell the other youtubers i've been watching for a decade LOL. thank you so much for these vids. i want a large alice so badly. and the usmc lbe pack, i think that's finally the one perfect pack for me. i've been building up my own tiny cache of surplus and other gear. but it's stuff i am actively using day to day to live. so this isn't important, it is vital. 🙏🙏🤝
Thinking of my own surefootedness, I would add a vertical stabilizer strap or two to prevent the ammo can from lurching upward if I stumbled. That could really knock someone upside the head.
SO admittedly i bought a Large ALICE pack as part of a costume party i went. But by that accident, i fell in love with large, all purpose, carry anything rucksacks. Without out a doubt the single best purchase i have ever made. Love the living shit out of it. Never giving it up. That being said, side(rocket) pouches are near impossible to find. Could do with a source of some kind. But that's the way it is. Im now looking to buy a Beast Bergen from JayJays. Im just spoiled for choice; i have choice paralysis. Good time to have a few go bags on hand.
I love your comment! The large ALICE is the piece of kit that can turn anyone into a pack mule! Given the design of the pack, I would recommend 200 round SAW pouches. Either ALICE or MOLLE will work. The ALICE version is more readily available than the MOLLE unless you don't mind mixing and matching colors/patterns. You could attach up to 4 on the large pack That is A LOT of extra storage space. With a little modifying you can attach a couple MOLLE Sustainment Pouches JAY JAY"S Produces Amazing Kit!! The Beast Is an Absolute Masterpiece! I want half of the items on their website! I would have already ordered one of their MOLLE PLCE Systems, but the shipping almost doubled the price, so, no Jay Jay's for Boonedockery... When you get it, I'd love to see some photos of it. If you would, email me a few at boonedockery1750@gmail.com. Thanks for sharing this and have a fantastic day!
@@OldNavajoTricks It hasn't got everything I wanted but i can get that adjusted at a later date. Might have to learn how to sew some MOLLE webbing to the lid, as a personal preference, to increase the lid storage but other than that its beautiful.
I have the same large Alice pack I bought brand new on ebay. Ur new large Alice pack like mine is the latest version made in yr 2000 and they all come with the woodland camo shoulder straps. This latest version is the last year they ever made an Alice pack for the military. And did u notice u have a sternum strap?? The last made model comes with a sternum strap unlike all the other Alice packs. But yes ur woodland straps r genuine to that make and model of the last year they made the Alice. It's the best version with the strongest buckles and most durable model. I'm so happy to have mine and having a sternum strap is gold!!!!
thank you very much for sharing that information! I am surprised that the ALICE pack was still being issued in 2000! Testament to the venerable workhorse! Thanks again and have a great day!
Thank you! At one time there were 4 Surplus stores within 45 minutes of where I live. I live in a very rural area and have to drive at least a half an hour for just about anything I need. one by one they closed their doors. I was blown away when the store opened in my own village. I hope they have a successful business!
Thank you the video ! i have been putting to molly sustainment pouchs on the right & left sides of my A.L.I.C.E. packs. now that makes room for 6 M.R.E. i hope it help some one
Great video series - I subbed! I was issued the green medium ALICE pack with the dark green frame in the late 80's. However, I was able to purchase the woodland medium ALICE through AAFES. It was cool being the only guy with a camo ALICE pack. I loaned in to a guy in my unit and he ETS'ed before he gave it back. Oh well, live and learn I guess...
Just found channel. I saw a video years ago where a guy showed that the medium ALICE pack could be made smaller, into a more assault or day pack. The only catch was that according to him, only the olive had the means. 🤷♂️
I too have fallen into the rabbit hole and have several Alice packs. As far as the woodland camo version yes the last variant was in woodland with two variation. One was with a Velcro opening on one side of the flap for a radio antenna and the other did not. The Velcro one is pretty rare . I also have modified mine with molle 2 straps and waist belt making them very comfortable
That is very cool information John! Thank you for sharing it with me. I have not actually seen an ISSUED woodland ALICE pack. I've seen a few "copies" and as you can guess, they did not impress me. One of my future Ruckdiculousness videos will focus on attaching FILBE shoulder straps and another MOLLE belt to another LC-2 frame. I hope you have a great day!
I've got that woodland camo version with the half sewn lid set up as a hell cat version, it seems just a tad smaller than the olive drab full lid, and I believe it was a radio pack set up. I like the full open lid better, personally. Gr8 for warm 1 nighters, or a get home bag.
Best collection of rucks! How much did you spend on this entire rabbit hole excursion? I am building out two large OD green ALICE rucks for search and rescue 72hr bags. I am doing strap mods, kidney pad updates, pocket mods, and more. Looking forward to viewing this series of vids!
I've picked up some more items since I posted this series. With A.L.I.C.E Packs and Frames, I'm at around $150. Equivalent value is probably around $500.
Thank you for subscribing! I was never trained with the MOLLE II, however I have seen several manual pdfs online. Should I have the good fortune of time, I would love to educate myself and share what I have learned. They are readily available and are really very inexpensive compared to many other surplus packs. Thanks for the fantastic idea!
I’ve carried the medium ALICE with the frame and without the frame (as a soldier in the ARMY), both work, and are acceptable. I’ve also carried the large, with the frame of course (as a civilian), and found it way too awkward and pretty much unacceptable (at least for me). The large hangs way too far behind me hanging off my back. I found I had to bend forward at the waist pretty far to balance it. I still use the median, with frame, but I no longer use the large. I have a Granite Gear CHIEF patrol pack for large loads or a long time out. The CHIEF is much more comfortable (and expensive) than the large ALICE.
I completely agree with your assessment of the A.L.I.C.E. packs. I was a 19-Delta (Cav Scout) when I was in and rarely ever used the frame with my medium ruck. I also had a Granite Gear Chief Patrol pack. I have no idea if the packs came in different sizes or not but I could never get the pack adjusted to where it would ride properly. I gave it to a friend that is larger that myself and it fit him perfectly! I really loved the Chief patrol but I just couldn't get the pack to ride well. Thank you very much for commenting!
@@boonedockery7220 Yes, the CHIEF is adjustable, but you need a screwdriver. I’m 5’8” and needed to adjust the CHIEF shorter than standard. Once I did that it was good to go.
@@mountaineer5596 I was able to adjust everything except the the load adjustment straps. Once the degree of angle goes so far, they just don't work the way they should. Or at least that was the case with mine.
I use the Large A.L.I.C.E. Ruck and like it. The critical thing to remember with the large is to pack it WIDE, not deep. Packed wide, it isn't as bad as you may think. The Medium is better for warm weather though.
Great video and nice grab on finding the deal on all those packs. I think it will be a great pack to tote in anything you might need to place aka/redistribute wherever you may need. Also think of strap across the top like your other viewer said might be smart and also useful to a degree too knowing the way you can always make a strap work to your benefit lol. I love your ingenuity after all why not make something better if you can, and to take something as old as the Alice (hells to the yes).... I do wonder what it would be like if you turned the can the other way or is it just too wide for the pack like that? Cause if not you could pack in your can and use one of those bags you showed in the same video on top of it or another can if it Wasn't too heavy . But the bag or a dry bag and a can to leave on one trip could work on that pack like that I think...hmm. I want one now ughhhhhh My mind is clicking lol If you only knew what I went through weekly/monthly to get groceries medicine the trek ugh. It's either walk it with a cane or my wheeled walker or pay for uber and you can guess which way I would rather my $ go lol. Oh by the way can't you add 2"strap to the inside of your belt so it feels better, after all you have to wear it for long periods of time you might as well be comfortable or you won't use it. You can sew it in I think, I have seen your skills you got this...anyway just a thought I could tell it really kinda bothered ya, anyway take it easy much love to the fam ttyl Kyle
Thank you for the fantastic comment Kyle! There are a few videos forthcoming I've already shot, loaded and scheduled I think you'll like and addresses a couple of the excellent Ideas you've shared. Several more to be shot next week. I will definitely try out the vertical straps and will look into the double waist belt. Blessings and love to you and yours Kyle. I really appreciate your support!
I am from South Africa, i got lucky in Facebook market place a brand new large Alice pack. Like brand brand new. Unfortunately we don't have the accessories like you guys get. I would love to have a pair of the holder straps and waist band. 😢. Still i am lucky for my find. I do have patern 83 SANDF kits
@@boonedockery7220 I'm almost (I think) about done on the build, webbing set ready, main ready, running pack (Extra rockets on detachable yoke) ready. I just need to empty, sort and repack now 🤘
im so glad i livee by ft bragg a local sewing shop here makes shoulder and hips pads branded "calloway" and they have built in padding they are so nice
@@boonedockery7220 hey man I'm a big fan of your channel love all that you do keep it up I do have one question hoping you may be able to help me out Alice frames are getting harder and harder to find I went through 20 some military surplus stores all sold out I had to settle for a reproduction have you had any experience with the reproduction are they just as good or is there flaws with them please let me know
@@boonedockery7220 is there a way I can message you or email you I can tell you my experience with a lot of these miniature surplus backpacks The Good the bad the ugly the modifications you can do to make them even better especially the Alice and the f i l b e large ruck
I first saw an Army issue rucksack in Germany 1963. It had a tubular frame with a little wrap around shape at the waist. Simple OD bag, perhaps an early predecessor to ALICE I. The fellow who had it was a retread from 10th SF group in Bad Tolz, kicked out for being a loser and BS artist. Somehow he kept his ruck during his transfer and kept it on top of his wall locker. Us ordinary doggies who only had butt packs, considered it a curiosity.
Your links are dead is there a way you can update them? I love the flat pack ocp that has the 2 side pouches but I couldn't find it! I'm getting a shopping list together with options to outfit my hunting, hiking, and fieldcraft civilian friends on a budget. I bet all these packs will fit on my mystery ranch frame that I'm using on my filbe pack.
The Flat bed carrier was a fluke. They had to have been prototypes. I haven't seen them since I posted to video. I will put updating the links on my list of things to do, but it might take a while. I've never used any of my Mystery Ranch frames on any other packs. I might have to find a nice frame on eBay to play with.
Today I came across your video (and I subbed to your channel) on ALICE packs and frames and I must say you got one hell of a "collection". Awesome video btw! I'm also still using a ALICE and FILBE pack but I use it on a Mystery Ranch nice frame. It fits perfectly and you don't need to make any major adjustments to get it working. What I'm very interested in is the dedicated load hauler which fits the ALICE frame. I've never seen one before. Is it still available and if so where can I order one? Mystery Ranch does not sell load shelves or similar things like that separately. You need to buy the whole setup and they are not cheap as you know. And does the load hauler come in different colors or only in multi cam?
RJ, Thank You Very much For Subscribing And for This Comment! I had no idea the Mystery Ranch frame was compatible! Is it the NICE frame? Unfortunately, the Load Hauler was an absolute stroke of luck for me. I can only think they were a batch of prototypes for the military and who ever acquired them, sold them for far less than what they were worth. Had I known they were finite, I would have bought all he had to offer them to my viewers at cost. As far as I know, no one produces a load hauler that is complete like the one I purchased and the only company that produces one that is similar sells the panel and side pouches separately and it is expensive. "IF" a reparable manufacturer were to be able to replicate it, at a similar price for the consumer (even in non Multicam) I'd send them extensive photos and measurements to do so. Looking at it, There is a lot of sewing, but not too complicated. I have a subscriber that sewed his own to fit a wooden frame he build himself, as a result of my video. It looks great! The only color that was available on the eBay listing was Multicam.
@@boonedockery7220 Yes, it's a Nice Frame and I must say it's very comfortable especially when you're carrying a lot of stuff for an extended hike over uneven terrain. As you know the Mystery Ranch Nice Frame is rigid in some way but at the same time also a flexible which makes it very strong. And the BVS system provides a bit more stability to the side which results in less sway of the pack. I know that the whole setup is certainly not really a light one but for an old(fashion) hiker like me I can say that I'm happy with it. Most people would go for ultra light but I prefer reliable ruggedness. BTW as far as I know the Mystery Ranch Guide Light frame is also compatible with the FILBE and/or ALICE pack.
@@RJ-oo3vf I own the long-since discontinued Mystery Ranch Wolf Pack. It is based on the NICE Frame. The pack is heavy but extremely comfortable and I can carry quite a load without discomfort.
@@boonedockery7220 I've seen the Wolf Pack on Ebay and it's really a very nice pack. Maybe I'm going to try that one as well. What I like about the Nice Frame is the versatility of it. There are many ways to get almost any kind of pack to fit to it. Whatever you do, the comfort of the harness remains the same. That's why I'm using it with the FILBE for the time being.
I got real lucky and found someone selling “their grandpas military backpack” for $25. Snatched it up so fast. Practically brand new condition pack, frame, straps, and kidney pad, and it had the original name and rank of the dudes grandpa from when he got it issued to him.
I thought I was the only one wandering around this rabbit hole. I went ugly early though, yup as of yesterday I'm the proud owner of a Large Molle 2 in ACU with about 10 oddball pouches on the way....ACU pattern literally disappears on my sofa. Just finished up piecing together a full USMC ILBE including assault pack. It's like wearing a massage chair. I've got some Alice stuff, your making my order finger twitch....
Bill, I have a complete M.O.L.L.E. 2 in woodland camo and used it a good bit when I first purchased it almost 10 years ago. I absolutely love my ILBE! I have had several A.L.I.C.E. packs in the past and either traded or gave them away. Once I started looking at all this stuff online and happened upon those bargains "it Was On Like Donkey Kong"! I'm going to be using all of this stuff for the next couple of months. A mix of nostalgia and creativity has inspired me! Sorry about that finger twitch, but not really sorry😉😆😄😅👍 Have a great evening Bill!
i love me a good surplus store. and i see we have the same affliction/addiction. i have WAAAYYY too many packs and dont even ask about pouches or LBE. what years did you serve?
small, medium & large and the frames to go with them... Its sorrta like my mother used to say you get a bigger house when you have too much stuff in your present house and in a year or so you have more stuff in your new house... your pack is your house on your back
I have a lot of memories carrying my ruck in the early 80's. The A.L.I.C.E. system has a very special place in my heart! Thanks for commenting! Have a great day!
@@boonedockery7220 amen bro. born and raise loving alice gear have a blessing after noon friend and i got pulp tent . hoping you got one to your gear. 💗💗💗💗super complete 😬😬
Not a fan of the ALICE frame or ruck myself, I just sold my last issue ALICE frame to a friend. My favorite frame is still what is referred to as the Canadian 64 pattern (the C2) and I own not only a welded reproduction (no longer made) and an original riveted version that I have rigged up my Pattern 84 ruck onto. Edit: that load carrier is the cats meow!! The link seems to be sold out sadly because that would almost be a grail addition to my kit set.
All things A.L.I.C.E. are indeed antiquated and pale in comparison to most modern military packs or load barring equipment. I have a nostalgic attachment to it. However, I have several contemporary packs and L.B.E. I much prefer using. Still, I can't help but return to my beloved Alice from time to time when I hit the woods. Thank you very much for adding to the conversation! It's much appreciated! have a great weekend!
@@boonedockery7220 oh the C2 is just as antiquated! The same style frame was used in the USA and that started in the early 1960s! In Canada they were officially introduced in 1964 while they never went general issue in the USA and then, as you stated, the ALICE was adopted in the 1970s.
@@boonedockery7220 guys that have them keep them. Beaver Surplus back East in Ontario used to do a welded reproduction (which I have one of) which is absaloutely bombproof but they are out of business. The riveted original I have is pretty sweet as well and I have that one rigged up with my 84 pattern ruck and straps instead of the wire frame the 84 came with. Funny fact, I had one of those 80 liter Flyye rucks on a FILBE frame with a belt and yoke out of Australia before I got the Chief. I sold that one but it is a good bag! The Australians make a ton of upgraded ALICE stuff. Ah man, Im just gonna sub! I do have a short poor boy video of the Chief up and mean to do a longer one but work always intervenes.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 Please keep commenting on my videos! I love reading them! I already subscribed to your channel, please continue to add content as you find the time. I know what you mean about work interference... Between work and home, I rarely get a good opportunity to actually watch youtube. I'll be filming more Ruckdickulousness videos soon. Just in case you are interested. The Aussies and Israelis are masters at making the U.S. surplus hand me downs into High-Speed Low Drag works of art! I have a lot more to share but it will have to wait for another time. I'm headed to the woods for the weekend (expect a few more videos) and still have some more preparations to make before I hit the sack. Thank you very much for adding so much "To The Conversation"! I am certain others get as much from your input as I do! Have a great weekend my friend!
I got the same two for $50 from an outfit that reconditions gear. They buy them in bulk bales. Is that Woodsman waist belt bigger and better padded than the MOLLE one? What's the difference in size between the equipment shelf and the sleep system shelf?
John, The hidden woodsmen belt/pad was a disappointment. I would definitely try the MOLLE belt! The equipment shelf is very small. only about 3"x 12" (estimated).
@@boonedockery7220, is that the only shelf they make for it? I thought there might be a wider shelf as someone mentioned using the pack frame and shelf to haul firewood. 3 inches certainly wouldn't cut it.
The only "True" Military Surplus Stores are far from me. I believe the closest is in Lexington KY. armysurpluswarehouselexington.com/ I would love to take a road trip to visit it and do a little treasure hunting!
I don't know the specific type or size off the top of my head, however, I order all my fabric and hardware from Rocky Woods. Here is a link. www.rockywoods.com/HARDWARE/Buckle-Hardware I hope this helps.
@@robertbox3545 Robert, I do not have the MOLLE Pack any longer, so I can't look to see if it is a ready-made part or not. "IF" all you need is a replacement buckle Rocky Woods should have what you need. I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
depends what type of honesty you mean, there is a fine line between truth said in love and being a jerk.. It can be hard when people are being rude to you but you have to remember why you are doing the videos and that not everyone will appreciate your work.
Best frame ever. As for compartments on the ruck? one large compartment is a nightmare at night with no light. Sacrificing space in compartment accessibility is a consideration over knowing and feeling the equipment you need right away when you need it. Could mean life or death in some situations. Nice collection you got there of the awesome A.L.IC.E my fave is the nylon O.D you got hanging on the end. Heheh
Wow! Been an ALICE fan-boy for 40 years. Thanks for your no-b.s. straight and well thought out review. Subscribed
Thank You Vince! I was very pleasantly surprised how many newly manufactured items are available for the ALICE packs and frames. Very few packs have that kind of longevity. From everything that I have seen, One could purchase everything to assemble a complete system new, without ever adding any surplus parts to it. FireForce Gear actually offers newly manufactured packs (Medium or Large) in Multicam, MARPAT or Woodland. Your choice of original ALICE Hardware or Updated Fastex/ MOLLE. I never would have thought this veteran pack system would have this long, viable life span. Vince, thank you very much for your subscription and comment! Have a fantastic day!
I bought an ALICE frame and fitted it with a FILBE pack and shoulder straps. It feels better adapted to body armor than new rucksack
As a welder by trade and a veteran, I have been contemplating taking an Alice frame and remove the paint from all the riveted points and breakout a Tig welder and weld all the joints and never have to worry about rivers ever again. The tactical tailor frame and the TAG AGAF are bothe welded frames.
That is a brilliant Idea Charles! Turning mass production into quality production! I wish I knew how to weld!
@@boonedockery7220 I wonder if you could use those aluminum rods that get advertised all over Facebook the is like soldering and you just use a torch and the aluminum rods 🤔
@@boonedockery7220 also sent you a message on Instagram about some other cool stuff.
@@ninjazxd definitely worth looking into!
@@ninjazxd I just checked my Instagram account and didn't see anything from you?
I picked up a brand new one the other day from a retired marine. It has never been used at all and everything is in perfect condition. Got it for $80 and was happy to pay it.
That's Fantastic!
Alice pack is the best pack ever made if it ant broke don't fix it they last forever I love your video very informative thanks brother
It seems like you also have a love affair with A.L.I.C.E.!
I used to have an old canvas Italian Mountain Rucksack. It ha one big main compartment and two smaller compartments each with an attached strap that was put through a buckle. It also had a chain on the inside and thick canvas shoulder straps with buckles for adjustments. That was my favorite rucksack/backpack. Too bad I had to throw it away bc my room got flooded by sewer water and it grew black mold on it.
Oh That Is Just Awful! I had a house fire several years ago and lost half of what I owned. It really surprised me which things I truly missed. Some folks might not think an old canvas pack is that big of a deal.... We know better. It's interesting how we can develop relationships with inanimate items, but we do. I know I have pieces of kit that I could talk for hours about our adventures together. I'm sorry for your lose. Some things are just irreplaceable.
I agree 100%
Crazy as ruck
( _Edit_ ) In my research, your large Alice pack in non-OD is actually called 'camo green' and was selected to complement the green of the M81 woodland pattern. I didnt like it at first but I have really come to warm up to it a lot and I have my old LC-2 OD pack covered in camo green pouches and it really makes for a unique look. They also issued duffle bags in camo green.
That is one neat-looking rabit hole. Great video my man, keep em coming! Keen to watch more of the ruckdiculousness in future episodes
Thank You!!! There are several in the works or already loaded and scheduled for viewing. Some Short, Some Long, But there will be several. I have really enjoyed making these ones!
Great video great sense of humor hopefully more videos will follow. BTW they actually make a rucksack strap for cinching down ammo cans to the rucksack frame and they work a heck of alot better than the straps you were using, not sure of the exact nomenclature but they have a metal buckle and flip back on themselves once they are tightened to make an "extremely tight" and secure strap. We had a saying in the 82nd Airborne Infantry a tight pack is a light pack. The actual weight itself doesn't change but the body mechanics and the energy it takes from your load bouncing around all the time wears you out a lot quicker
Thank You Phillip! I want those straps!!!!! Even if I can't find the actual "issue" straps, I can make them if I can find a photo of them. I have tons of buckle sources. One of my best friends was with the 82nd. He dropped on the airfield in Panama, and was one of the first to arrive in Kuwait during Desert Storm. I had already ETS'd prior to Panama. I learned a lot from him as far as hacks and methodologies! The 82nd is a unique group and their ever evolving SOPs are always a source of must know information.
I agree 100% with the secure load concept! I have personally help new to the outdoors folks with their pack adjustments. After they put the pack back on they look at me like I'm some kind of sorcerer or something...
Thank you for your service Phillip! Please share any information any time you can. Not only I would appreciate it but so would this ever growing family! Having good advice and information from multiple sources and background is a huge benefit to all that read these comments!
Thanks again Phillip! I look foreword to hearing from you in the future!
Well John, that's what I would call over-the-top on backpacks. I have this disease but it rears it's ugly head on alcohol stoves - er- well camping stoves in general. I have several backpacks but only one in use at the moment and it is modern. It's just darn pretty to be truthful. And clean. It is my carry-on when I fly. I look all yuppy! I carry all the stuff I need to face the outdoors in my camper. That includes air conditioning and screens on the windows if I should open them. Oh, and a freezer for my ice cream. As I have said before, I live in South Texas where it is HOT, buggy, and someone will shoot you if you cross their land so I go glamping. And like you, my knees can't take what I use to do causally. Just turned 75 thank you very much. I do get out and carry stuff to go fishing beside a creek, called a river, with about 150 to 200 feet of a steep hill to get me there. Cardio for the day when fishing. Looking forward to watching your adventures on my iPad, lying on my queen size bed, in the a/c! Hang in the brother. Blessing, David
If your enjoying the outdoors at 75 in any way GOD BLESS YOU!!!! For me comfort and a good nights sleep is very important! There are a couple packs I have not yet taken to the woods. My new Ruck Frame Packs and my light weight Osprey pack. The Alice Frame packs will all see woods time within the next month. I also have A LOT of camp stoves!!!!! Keep On Enjoying The Outdoors Via Glamping Brother!!! God Bless You!!!
About 10 years ago I went on a hunt for some ALICE packs. Pretty much no surplus around me had any and the few they had were really beat up. I ended up at a shop about 1.5 hours away and they had a few milspec new med ones I got for about $50 each (frame and pack). I then hit ebay and built some Hellcats out of them. Oddly, one of them must not have been to milspec because the outside pockets were sewn all around and I just found out last week LOL. I knew a lot less about the packs then and was looking for affordable backpacking gear for short camping hikes. The nice thing about the way the pockets were typically done is that you can drop you hatchet through the gaps and don't have to really strap it down.
I apologize for the extremely late reply! For the time ALICE was designed, it was a very well thought out pack. When I was in the army, I had an issue machete with rubber sheath I attach to the webbing eyelets after I slid it behind the pocket. Great feature to keep things from flopping around. I put my ALICE series on the back burner, but I'll be continuing it in the spring. I still have a lot to try, test and share about this veteran workhorse! thanks for contributing to the conversation! Again, sorry for the late reply.
Great content. They did make a woodland medium ALICE for the military at the end of production.
Thank You, And Thank You! I appreciate the compliment and info!
I have one, my company was using it as a radiobag and were gonna scrap it when the strap tore, so I took it and replaced the strap for 10$. Been using it as an overnight camping bag. Love it
that guy's son his life was just beginning.
In the early 60s, rifle squads carried a crummy AN/PRC-6, aka prick six. It was too big, too heavy and the range was short. I drove a jeep for the S4, so I had AN/VRC-18 radios which had a little bit better range, maybe 5 miles in hilly SE Germany. I presume modern infantry radios have progressed considerably. Ideally, every rifleman would be in radio touch with his/her chain of command along with a visual map display showing where the rest of the squad/platoon was at as well as the enemy.
Very comprehensive video, thanks for sharing!
Outdoor greetings from the Netherlands 🤠 🇳🇱 🏕️
Glad you enjoyed it! Visiting the Netherlands is on my bucket list!
Great video brother John!!! Love all the new kit!! That's a very easy rabbit hole for a lot of us to fall down!!🤣🤣 keep up the great work brother and fighting the good fight!! God bless you and yours brother and I pray you have a wonderful and truly blessed day 🙂👍🙏❤✝️🙂🙂🙂
Thank you Brother Jay!!!! Still working on the editing of our Island Hopping Video. It will be ready by next Sunday. Even though, I neglected "filming" to some degree to much better enjoy our adventure, I did get some good footage. God Bless You Brother Jay! May The Lords Blessings Shower Upon You And Yours!🙏✝👍😀
Great video John. Thanks for the information. Have a great day.
Thank You! You Do The Same!
Hi bud! Hey man, i've been watching all your vids after subbing recently. i think you're my favorite gear/outdoors/woodsman etc GUY at this point. 😂 don't tell the other youtubers i've been watching for a decade LOL. thank you so much for these vids. i want a large alice so badly. and the usmc lbe pack, i think that's finally the one perfect pack for me. i've been building up my own tiny cache of surplus and other gear. but it's stuff i am actively using day to day to live. so this isn't important, it is vital. 🙏🙏🤝
Fantastic!
Thinking of my own surefootedness, I would add a vertical stabilizer strap or two to prevent the ammo can from lurching upward if I stumbled. That could really knock someone upside the head.
Excellent Idea James! I will play with it! Thank you!
You are a very lucky man. You got a great deal. One Military Surplus in my area but they just deal with new: no vintage gear, no ALICE.
SO admittedly i bought a Large ALICE pack as part of a costume party i went. But by that accident, i fell in love with large, all purpose, carry anything rucksacks. Without out a doubt the single best purchase i have ever made. Love the living shit out of it. Never giving it up.
That being said, side(rocket) pouches are near impossible to find. Could do with a source of some kind. But that's the way it is.
Im now looking to buy a Beast Bergen from JayJays. Im just spoiled for choice; i have choice paralysis. Good time to have a few go bags on hand.
I love your comment! The large ALICE is the piece of kit that can turn anyone into a pack mule! Given the design of the pack, I would recommend 200 round SAW pouches. Either ALICE or MOLLE will work. The ALICE version is more readily available than the MOLLE unless you don't mind mixing and matching colors/patterns. You could attach up to 4 on the large pack That is A LOT of extra storage space.
With a little modifying you can attach a couple MOLLE Sustainment Pouches
JAY JAY"S Produces Amazing Kit!! The Beast Is an Absolute Masterpiece! I want half of the items on their website! I would have already ordered one of their MOLLE PLCE Systems, but the shipping almost doubled the price, so, no Jay Jay's for Boonedockery...
When you get it, I'd love to see some photos of it. If you would, email me a few at boonedockery1750@gmail.com.
Thanks for sharing this and have a fantastic day!
Beast is expensive, are you any good with a sewing awl/needle?
@@OldNavajoTricks I ended up with the "M"ALICE pack from Platatac. Just better choice IMO
@@thisismyname8627 I went stitch happy on a Bergen :-D
Hope you like your Malice 🤘
@@OldNavajoTricks It hasn't got everything I wanted but i can get that adjusted at a later date. Might have to learn how to sew some MOLLE webbing to the lid, as a personal preference, to increase the lid storage but other than that its beautiful.
Huge scores there. The ALICE packs and frames are much harder to get than they were before. Can't wait to see what else you do with that gear.
Thank You! More ready to view for next week!
I have the same large Alice pack I bought brand new on ebay. Ur new large Alice pack like mine is the latest version made in yr 2000 and they all come with the woodland camo shoulder straps. This latest version is the last year they ever made an Alice pack for the military. And did u notice u have a sternum strap?? The last made model comes with a sternum strap unlike all the other Alice packs. But yes ur woodland straps r genuine to that make and model of the last year they made the Alice. It's the best version with the strongest buckles and most durable model. I'm so happy to have mine and having a sternum strap is gold!!!!
thank you very much for sharing that information! I am surprised that the ALICE pack was still being issued in 2000! Testament to the venerable workhorse! Thanks again and have a great day!
When I was a kid we had Sunny Surplus bot today there is nothing in my area like that. Great setup!
Thank you! At one time there were 4 Surplus stores within 45 minutes of where I live. I live in a very rural area and have to drive at least a half an hour for just about anything I need. one by one they closed their doors. I was blown away when the store opened in my own village. I hope they have a successful business!
Thank you the video ! i have been putting to molly sustainment pouchs on the right & left sides of my A.L.I.C.E. packs. now that makes room for 6 M.R.E. i hope it help some one
Awesome Input! Thank You!
Great video series - I subbed! I was issued the green medium ALICE pack with the dark green frame in the late 80's. However, I was able to purchase the woodland medium ALICE through AAFES. It was cool being the only guy with a camo ALICE pack. I loaned in to a guy in my unit and he ETS'ed before he gave it back. Oh well, live and learn I guess...
DANG! I had a couple similar situations happen when I was in.
Thanks for the great vid! So where is this surplus store?
Great information John!
Thank You Very Much Sir!!!
Just found channel. I saw a video years ago where a guy showed that the medium ALICE pack could be made smaller, into a more assault or day pack. The only catch was that according to him, only the olive had the means. 🤷♂️
Hmmmmmmm... I'm going to have to look into this little tid bit! THANK YOU for sharing it with me!
@@boonedockery7220 sorry I meant to give more info. It had something to do with cordage in bottom of main bag being configured a certain way.
Thats correct. The woodland newer versions did not have the para cord inside bottom.
I too have fallen into the rabbit hole and have several Alice packs. As far as the woodland camo version yes the last variant was in woodland with two variation. One was with a Velcro opening on one side of the flap for a radio antenna and the other did not. The Velcro one is pretty rare . I also have modified mine with molle 2 straps and waist belt making them very comfortable
That is very cool information John! Thank you for sharing it with me. I have not actually seen an ISSUED woodland ALICE pack. I've seen a few "copies" and as you can guess, they did not impress me. One of my future Ruckdiculousness videos will focus on attaching FILBE shoulder straps and another MOLLE belt to another LC-2 frame. I hope you have a great day!
I've got that woodland camo version with the half sewn lid set up as a hell cat version, it seems just a tad smaller than the olive drab full lid, and I believe it was a radio pack set up. I like the full open lid better, personally. Gr8 for warm 1 nighters, or a get home bag.
Gotta go with what you know
That we do my friend!
alice fever alice lbe fan❤❤❤❤❤ born to love alice since day 1.
It's a classic that will never die!
@@boonedockery7220 amen bro🤙🤙🤙🤙
Best collection of rucks! How much did you spend on this entire rabbit hole excursion? I am building out two large OD green ALICE rucks for search and rescue 72hr bags. I am doing strap mods, kidney pad updates, pocket mods, and more. Looking forward to viewing this series of vids!
I've picked up some more items since I posted this series. With A.L.I.C.E Packs and Frames, I'm at around $150. Equivalent value is probably around $500.
I subbed. You gonna do a molle 2 class? :)
Thank you for subscribing! I was never trained with the MOLLE II, however I have seen several manual pdfs online. Should I have the good fortune of time, I would love to educate myself and share what I have learned. They are readily available and are really very inexpensive compared to many other surplus packs. Thanks for the fantastic idea!
My gear is really bad ass my main back pack is an ilbe pack so brand new all the components were in plastic including the hip belt.
That Is Awesome!
8:00 Medium lc3 alice packs were made in woodland
Cool! Thanks for contributing this! Do you happen to know what year the were introduced?
@@boonedockery7220 Can't remember for sure but probably late 80's early 90's
@@cctproductions6976 Cool! Thanks!
I’ve carried the medium ALICE with the frame and without the frame (as a soldier in the ARMY), both work, and are acceptable. I’ve also carried the large, with the frame of course (as a civilian), and found it way too awkward and pretty much unacceptable (at least for me). The large hangs way too far behind me hanging off my back. I found I had to bend forward at the waist pretty far to balance it. I still use the median, with frame, but I no longer use the large. I have a Granite Gear CHIEF patrol pack for large loads or a long time out. The CHIEF is much more comfortable (and expensive) than the large ALICE.
I completely agree with your assessment of the A.L.I.C.E. packs. I was a 19-Delta (Cav Scout) when I was in and rarely ever used the frame with my medium ruck. I also had a Granite Gear Chief Patrol pack. I have no idea if the packs came in different sizes or not but I could never get the pack adjusted to where it would ride properly. I gave it to a friend that is larger that myself and it fit him perfectly! I really loved the Chief patrol but I just couldn't get the pack to ride well. Thank you very much for commenting!
@@boonedockery7220 Yes, the CHIEF is adjustable, but you need a screwdriver. I’m 5’8” and needed to adjust the CHIEF shorter than standard. Once I did that it was good to go.
@@mountaineer5596 I was able to adjust everything except the the load adjustment straps. Once the degree of angle goes so far, they just don't work the way they should. Or at least that was the case with mine.
@@boonedockery7220 I see the problem now. Yes there is some of that for me.
I use the Large A.L.I.C.E. Ruck and like it. The critical thing to remember with the large is to pack it WIDE, not deep. Packed wide, it isn't as bad as you may think.
The Medium is better for warm weather though.
Thank you😺
Great video and nice grab on finding the deal on all those packs. I think it will be a great pack to tote in anything you might need to place aka/redistribute wherever you may need. Also think of strap across the top like your other viewer said might be smart and also useful to a degree too knowing the way you can always make a strap work to your benefit lol. I love your ingenuity after all why not make something better if you can, and to take something as old as the Alice (hells to the yes).... I do wonder what it would be like if you turned the can the other way or is it just too wide for the pack like that? Cause if not you could pack in your can and use one of those bags you showed in the same video on top of it or another can if it Wasn't too heavy . But the bag or a dry bag and a can to leave on one trip could work on that pack like that I think...hmm. I want one now ughhhhhh
My mind is clicking lol
If you only knew what I went through weekly/monthly to get groceries medicine the trek ugh. It's either walk it with a cane or my wheeled walker or pay for uber and you can guess which way I would rather my $ go lol. Oh by the way can't you add 2"strap to the inside of your belt so it feels better, after all you have to wear it for long periods of time you might as well be comfortable or you won't use it. You can sew it in I think, I have seen your skills you got this...anyway just a thought I could tell it really kinda bothered ya, anyway take it easy much love to the fam ttyl
Kyle
Thank you for the fantastic comment Kyle! There are a few videos forthcoming I've already shot, loaded and scheduled I think you'll like and addresses a couple of the excellent Ideas you've shared. Several more to be shot next week. I will definitely try out the vertical straps and will look into the double waist belt. Blessings and love to you and yours Kyle. I really appreciate your support!
Ps I put load lifters on my Alice pack made a huge difference
Awesome! How did you do it? You can email me with specifics (and pics if at all possible) at boonedockery1750@gmail.com THANKS!
YUP! Alice does have quite the rabbit hole! HaHa
Thinkin on how I can strap a dead deer to an alice frame?? huh
One quarter at a time!
I am from South Africa, i got lucky in Facebook market place a brand new large Alice pack. Like brand brand new. Unfortunately we don't have the accessories like you guys get. I would love to have a pair of the holder straps and waist band. 😢. Still i am lucky for my find. I do have patern 83 SANDF kits
Great content. You got a new sub sir.
I apologize for the extremely late reply! Thank You Very much For The Sub! I hope you find a few of my videos useful! Have a great day!
My M.o.a.B. system started as a 'simple' "Hey, I have a rocket pouch, I'll modify my ruck so I can attach it to it...'
I regret nothing :-D
Sometimes the greatest things start off as a simple idea. I Like That! 😊😉👍
@@boonedockery7220 I'm almost (I think) about done on the build, webbing set ready, main ready, running pack (Extra rockets on detachable yoke) ready.
I just need to empty, sort and repack now 🤘
@@OldNavajoTricks Awesome!
im so glad i livee by ft bragg a local sewing shop here makes shoulder and hips pads branded "calloway" and they have built in padding they are so nice
Oh I would Love to have a resource like that!!!!! I have tons of Ideas but little time and limited talent! Have a great day Anthony!
@@boonedockery7220 hey man I'm a big fan of your channel love all that you do keep it up I do have one question hoping you may be able to help me out Alice frames are getting harder and harder to find I went through 20 some military surplus stores all sold out I had to settle for a reproduction have you had any experience with the reproduction are they just as good or is there flaws with them please let me know
@@boonedockery7220 is there a way I can message you or email you I can tell you my experience with a lot of these miniature surplus backpacks The Good the bad the ugly the modifications you can do to make them even better especially the Alice and the f i l b e large ruck
I first saw an Army issue rucksack in Germany 1963. It had a tubular frame with a little wrap around shape at the waist. Simple OD bag, perhaps an early predecessor to ALICE I. The fellow who had it was a retread from 10th SF group in Bad Tolz, kicked out for being a loser and BS artist. Somehow he kept his ruck during his transfer and kept it on top of his wall locker. Us ordinary doggies who only had butt packs, considered it a curiosity.
Your links are dead is there a way you can update them? I love the flat pack ocp that has the 2 side pouches but I couldn't find it! I'm getting a shopping list together with options to outfit my hunting, hiking, and fieldcraft civilian friends on a budget. I bet all these packs will fit on my mystery ranch frame that I'm using on my filbe pack.
The Flat bed carrier was a fluke. They had to have been prototypes. I haven't seen them since I posted to video. I will put updating the links on my list of things to do, but it might take a while. I've never used any of my Mystery Ranch frames on any other packs. I might have to find a nice frame on eBay to play with.
Today I came across your video (and I subbed to your channel) on ALICE packs and frames and I must say you got one hell of a "collection". Awesome video btw!
I'm also still using a ALICE and FILBE pack but I use it on a Mystery Ranch nice frame. It fits perfectly and you don't need to make any major adjustments to get it working. What I'm very interested in is the dedicated load hauler which fits the ALICE frame. I've never seen one before. Is it still available and if so where can I order one? Mystery Ranch does not sell load shelves or similar things like that separately. You need to buy the whole setup and they are not cheap as you know. And does the load hauler come in different colors or only in multi cam?
RJ, Thank You Very much For Subscribing And for This Comment! I had no idea the Mystery Ranch frame was compatible! Is it the NICE frame? Unfortunately, the Load Hauler was an absolute stroke of luck for me. I can only think they were a batch of prototypes for the military and who ever acquired them, sold them for far less than what they were worth. Had I known they were finite, I would have bought all he had to offer them to my viewers at cost. As far as I know, no one produces a load hauler that is complete like the one I purchased and the only company that produces one that is similar sells the panel and side pouches separately and it is expensive. "IF" a reparable manufacturer were to be able to replicate it, at a similar price for the consumer (even in non Multicam) I'd send them extensive photos and measurements to do so. Looking at it, There is a lot of sewing, but not too complicated. I have a subscriber that sewed his own to fit a wooden frame he build himself, as a result of my video. It looks great! The only color that was available on the eBay listing was Multicam.
@@boonedockery7220 Yes, it's a Nice Frame and I must say it's very comfortable especially when you're carrying a lot of stuff for an extended hike over uneven terrain. As you know the Mystery Ranch Nice Frame is rigid in some way but at the same time also a flexible which makes it very strong. And the BVS system provides a bit more stability to the side which results in less sway of the pack. I know that the whole setup is certainly not really a light one but for an old(fashion) hiker like me I can say that I'm happy with it. Most people would go for ultra light but I prefer reliable ruggedness.
BTW as far as I know the Mystery Ranch Guide Light frame is also compatible with the FILBE and/or ALICE pack.
@@RJ-oo3vf I own the long-since discontinued Mystery Ranch Wolf Pack. It is based on the NICE Frame. The pack is heavy but extremely comfortable and I can carry quite a load without discomfort.
@@boonedockery7220 I've seen the Wolf Pack on Ebay and it's really a very nice pack. Maybe I'm going to try that one as well. What I like about the Nice Frame is the versatility of it. There are many ways to get almost any kind of pack to fit to it. Whatever you do, the comfort of the harness remains the same. That's why I'm using it with the FILBE for the time being.
LOL...subbed...woods
I got real lucky and found someone selling “their grandpas military backpack” for $25. Snatched it up so fast. Practically brand new condition pack, frame, straps, and kidney pad, and it had the original name and rank of the dudes grandpa from when he got it issued to him.
That Is Fantastic Matthew! Congratulations! What an awesome find! I love that the grandpas name and rank are on it!
@@boonedockery7220 you’re reply made my day, merry Christmas to ya!
They did issue woodland med alice packs but not the large as far as I know
I thought I was the only one wandering around this rabbit hole. I went ugly early though, yup as of yesterday I'm the proud owner of a Large Molle 2 in ACU with about 10 oddball pouches on the way....ACU pattern literally disappears on my sofa. Just finished up piecing together a full USMC ILBE including assault pack. It's like wearing a massage chair. I've got some Alice stuff, your making my order finger twitch....
Bill, I have a complete M.O.L.L.E. 2 in woodland camo and used it a good bit when I first purchased it almost 10 years ago. I absolutely love my ILBE! I have had several A.L.I.C.E. packs in the past and either traded or gave them away. Once I started looking at all this stuff online and happened upon those bargains "it Was On Like Donkey Kong"! I'm going to be using all of this stuff for the next couple of months. A mix of nostalgia and creativity has inspired me! Sorry about that finger twitch, but not really sorry😉😆😄😅👍 Have a great evening Bill!
we can all be ready when the next war starts
@@jimcarlson6157 Might not be too far off Jim.
i love me a good surplus store. and i see we have the same affliction/addiction. i have WAAAYYY too many packs and dont even ask about pouches or LBE. what years did you serve?
I think we could bot be members of S.A. (surplus anonymous)! I served from 1983-86 in Regular Army and 86-89 in the reserves.
small, medium & large and the frames to go with them... Its sorrta like my mother used to say you get a bigger house when you have too much stuff in your present house and in a year or so you have more stuff in your new house... your pack is your house on your back
Sage Words My Friend! Thank You!
Indeed alice back pack fan to y alice buttpack love the old school
I have a lot of memories carrying my ruck in the early 80's. The A.L.I.C.E. system has a very special place in my heart! Thanks for commenting! Have a great day!
@@boonedockery7220 amen bro. born and raise loving alice gear have a blessing after noon friend and i got pulp tent . hoping you got one to your gear. 💗💗💗💗super complete 😬😬
@@boonedockery7220 your welcome🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙
Nice
Thank You Richard!
Not a fan of the ALICE frame or ruck myself, I just sold my last issue ALICE frame to a friend. My favorite frame is still what is referred to as the Canadian 64 pattern (the C2) and I own not only a welded reproduction (no longer made) and an original riveted version that I have rigged up my Pattern 84 ruck onto.
Edit: that load carrier is the cats meow!! The link seems to be sold out sadly because that would almost be a grail addition to my kit set.
All things A.L.I.C.E. are indeed antiquated and pale in comparison to most modern military packs or load barring equipment. I have a nostalgic attachment to it. However, I have several contemporary packs and L.B.E. I much prefer using. Still, I can't help but return to my beloved Alice from time to time when I hit the woods. Thank you very much for adding to the conversation! It's much appreciated! have a great weekend!
@@boonedockery7220 oh the C2 is just as antiquated! The same style frame was used in the USA and that started in the early 1960s! In Canada they were officially introduced in 1964 while they never went general issue in the USA and then, as you stated, the ALICE was adopted in the 1970s.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 I tried searching for one online, look to be pretty scarce on the "Inter-web"!
@@boonedockery7220 guys that have them keep them. Beaver Surplus back East in Ontario used to do a welded reproduction (which I have one of) which is absaloutely bombproof but they are out of business. The riveted original I have is pretty sweet as well and I have that one rigged up with my 84 pattern ruck and straps instead of the wire frame the 84 came with.
Funny fact, I had one of those 80 liter Flyye rucks on a FILBE frame with a belt and yoke out of Australia before I got the Chief. I sold that one but it is a good bag!
The Australians make a ton of upgraded ALICE stuff.
Ah man, Im just gonna sub! I do have a short poor boy video of the Chief up and mean to do a longer one but work always intervenes.
@@turtlewolfpack6061 Please keep commenting on my videos! I love reading them! I already subscribed to your channel, please continue to add content as you find the time. I know what you mean about work interference... Between work and home, I rarely get a good opportunity to actually watch youtube. I'll be filming more Ruckdickulousness videos soon. Just in case you are interested. The Aussies and Israelis are masters at making the U.S. surplus hand me downs into High-Speed Low Drag works of art! I have a lot more to share but it will have to wait for another time. I'm headed to the woods for the weekend (expect a few more videos) and still have some more preparations to make before I hit the sack. Thank you very much for adding so much "To The Conversation"! I am certain others get as much from your input as I do! Have a great weekend my friend!
Hey. Just curious. Who was the manufacturer for you Alice frames?
They were "Issue" frames. I'll have to look at them and get back with you.
Thanks
My Pleasure!👍
I got the same two for $50 from an outfit that reconditions gear. They buy them in bulk bales.
Is that Woodsman waist belt bigger and better padded than the MOLLE one?
What's the difference in size between the equipment shelf and the sleep system shelf?
John, The hidden woodsmen belt/pad was a disappointment. I would definitely try the MOLLE belt! The equipment shelf is very small. only about 3"x 12" (estimated).
@@boonedockery7220, is that the only shelf they make for it?
I thought there might be a wider shelf as someone mentioned using the pack frame and shelf to haul firewood. 3 inches certainly wouldn't cut it.
I dont have any surplus sores close
The one near me has a VERY limited selection. I have no idea if they will be adding to their inventory.
The only "True" Military Surplus Stores are far from me. I believe the closest is in Lexington KY. armysurpluswarehouselexington.com/
I would love to take a road trip to visit it and do a little treasure hunting!
Where did you get the load hauling pack/accessory that you show at the 17:46 mark of the video? This is exactly the type of mod I am looking for.
eBay, It apparently was a prototype, I've never seen another one.
10:16 what's that m81 over your shoulder?
It's the shoulder strap of my Large ALICE Pack. That's the way I bought it at a surplus store.
I have a question. Where can I find the buckles that go on the top of the molle frame that attach the assault pack to the ruck
I don't know the specific type or size off the top of my head, however, I order all my fabric and hardware from Rocky Woods. Here is a link.
www.rockywoods.com/HARDWARE/Buckle-Hardware
I hope this helps.
So its something I have to make that's helps a lot thanks
@@robertbox3545 Robert, I do not have the MOLLE Pack any longer, so I can't look to see if it is a ready-made part or not. "IF" all you need is a replacement buckle Rocky Woods should have what you need. I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful.
Every little step helps win the marathon
Eu tenho uma Assaut pack 3 Day UCP
Incrível, isso é um grande bando! Tenha um ótimo dia!
Sir can you give the accurate demintions for the medium alice pack going to try a stansport frame mod.
The main compartment of the medium Alice Pack is 19″ x 11.5″ x 9.5″. Are you going to use a Stansport Mountain Hauler Pack Frame?
@@boonedockery7220 yes but the stnsport frame is 15 3/4 wide
may go with the large , whats the demintion on that size pack,thanks for reply
@@charlesreynolds7608 Your Welcome!
May i ask what is the brand name/model of the ruck at 20:00 please?
That Is The FLYYE - Molle Frame Pack - Multicam (Fits Alice LC-2 Molle II USMC 1606 Frames);
www.ebay.com/itm/154249609019
@@boonedockery7220 Thank you so much, that is one pack I'm definitely looking forward to watching the review of
@@thatpackguy As Soon As I Can Order Another Set Of Straps And Belt!!
Where are you at?
South Eastern Ohio
Where is this army surplus store at?
In my hometown, but there are usually surplus stores in most states I think?
Anyone know anything else about this company called fly? I’m curious to know
Started off with a medium ALICE, then the large ALICE, now humping my ILBE for winter camping!
I LOVE My ILBE!!!! It is my favorite winter camping pack!
My analytics suck. I think it’s because I’m too honest with my viewers.
depends what type of honesty you mean, there is a fine line between truth said in love and being a jerk.. It can be hard when people are being rude to you but you have to remember why you are doing the videos and that not everyone will appreciate your work.