Exactly. The back stories and character developments made up for the story line being all over the place. Which is why I’ve rewatched Lost about 4-5x lol mostly to pass the time when I’m bored.
Absolutely agree, how do you cast such a large show and give everyone a back story and also make them likeable. Casting and Characters is what kept me tuning in each week...
I feel like the people who truly appreciate Lost are the ones who understand thats its a story about a bunch of characters who don't realize how connected they are, and how they grow, that happens to take place on a crazy mysterious island. Not a story about a crazy mysterious island.
What fascinates me the most is how so many people STILL hate the finale based solely on the incorrect presumption that it confirms that "they were dead the whole time."
I’m happy that LOST at least realized it wouldn’t be able to end itself properly so it focused on what made it great in the first place, giving satisfying endings to the characters
I agree, it wasn't perfect, but perfect was gonna be really hard to pull off. I loved it regardless. They did kind of all accept it and move on which was great! That all the people and the island were over truly, sorta peaceful *insert a deep John Locke quote*.
Seethi C personally, I’ve grown to accept them as they are. However, serving only as an epilogue of sorts for the story, they are shoehorned into each episode causing distraction and bloat. More importantly, people walked away from the final season believing they all actually died in the crash, in purgatory, etc while the story was actually very straight forward. I get what they were trying to accomplish but the execution was lousy and confused everyone. Still, best series ever.
Eddie Vargas I would tend to disagree. Seeing, for example, the Jack and Locke dynamic in the afterlife is essential to me for a complete story, without it the entire lesson of the show is null and void.
@@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia oh okay, so I'm sorry I read your comment wrong, I thought you were saying that you were mad about that. yea, no I like that, I thought it was awesome!
The characters of Lost made up for storyline issues, for me. By the end, i didn't know what was going on, but I didn't really care. So much heart break, sweet moments, thought provoking story lines. It's a great show and very rewatchable
I would argue Lost is one of the few shows were the legacy of the finale has gotten better as time has gone on. People have gotten over the fact some of the tiny mysteries went unanswered and just appreciated it for what it was
Alexander Cohen I completely agree! The more I watched the show the more I began to enjoy the end. I just started watching it since being home on quarantine and I see so much more now and really appreciate the show even better
People have also realized on rewatch binges that most things were answered. It’s just that watching it weekly over the course of 6 years made it hard to remember all the clues.
Being a insane fan of the show back in the days, I was so afraid of rewatching it. Thought that I would realice it was not that great. I was wrong. Even now, is one of the best TV shows you can watch. The production values on the first 3 seasons is incredible. Best show ever.
I get why people who were invested in the mythology and came up with all kinds of theories didn’t like the ending, but I connected with the characters and found every answer given fulfilling, personally
I agree, but I think this is the fatal flaw of the show. I love rewatching Lost, gets better every time, but that's a LOT to ask of your audience when there's over a hundred hours of your show. Unfortunately, that's how it had to work in order for the show to be so genius.
@@lyramsr At the time, it was being marketed as scientifically accurate. So a lot of peoples expectations (including my own) about the direction of the show were that it would be a logically consistent ending, rather than magic. That said, after I thought about it, there was already a lot of magic in the show (Richards immortality, smoke monster etc) I just didn't have enough information to come to those conclusions at the time due to the cards being held so close to their chest. I, and probably others too, just expected some sci-fi explanation. Which is likely the direction the fan theories took that led to the disappointment in the actual ending. That said, the ending resolves all it needs to and once I'd watched it again, I was satisfied with it.
I remember I really enjoyed season 5 because I thought we were going to get a lot of answers with the whole time travel thing. I even had a theory that the food drop the group gets back in season 2 (I think it was season 2) was actually sent forward in time and came from the past when the Dharma Initiative was active. But no the writers just said that was a confirmed plot hole. Like really?
I binge watch this show every two years or so. Each time I watch it, I see more things I didn't see before. I respect the opinion in this video, but I say the show gave us much more than "bread crumbs" along the way. And while I 'hated' the end when it originally aired, I've got a completely different interpretation by the time I watched it the fourth time. That's not by accident, that's because the show gave us enough to fill in the blanks that perhaps they didn't have time to. After all, who better to do it? I didn't have to worry about schedules, coming in under budget and making money. I could simply ponder the show at my leisure.
It seems Lost was supposed to be a 4 season show, but stretching it out to 6 seasons had its consequences. Still, I consider it to be one of the greatest shows ever put on television, especially for the time. If you missed an episode, you _might_ be able to figure out what's going on if you really paid attention, but if you missed more than one episode it made no sense at all. There really haven't been any other shows like it.
The feelings articulated by this video are spot on but geez, this is the second LOST retrospective I've seen that didn't deal with the NUMBERS! And I love how all the commenters who've talked themselves into thinking the ending was even close to satisfying. Face it, you wasted 6 years of your life on this show that they can't give you back! Denial ain't just a river...
My ONLY major complaint was Adam and Eve in the cave. They have multiple opportunities to make those skeletons significant (Rose and Bernard, Kate and Jack, or even Desmond and Penny). But no, you made it two characters that we meet at the very end of the whole series. That felt like a massive waste of an opportunity.
I'm very glad you've made a video about LOST. :D I will say this about Jacob and the man in black, and this is just my opinion and speculation of course. And sorry for the long comment. A passionate fan is passionate, but I hope my ideas are interesting at least. As much as I really do understand the hate or dislike towards (Across the Sea), I also believe it's a very important episode to understand the actual dynamic between Jacob and his brother and the roles they've played (Both as characters and as a board game analogy). Every time we learned about Jacob or MiB it was from another character's perspective, believes and motives. The whole evil incarnate thing is baseless when you actually examine it. And really the whole story of LOST is about perspective and points of view. Same as the theme of science and faith. From a character perspective (Across the Sea) throws the whole idea of Jacob is good and MiB is bad out the window, because we learn that actually they're both just other characters with their own emotions, goals and motives. And the sad part about MiB's life is that he followed the rule of not being allowed to leave the island (which is a completely false rule since we saw people coming and leaving freely. And most of the rules mentioned throughout the show are actually just ways to control and manipulate others). But this false rule becomes a reality once Jacob throws his brother into the light, turning him into the smoke monster. An entity linked to this energy/source of the island. And now, as long as this source exists, he physically can't leave because he also lost his actual body. To me that's the sad irony in MiB's life, the one thing that he wanted and was told he can't do actually became true. In the end, once Desmond turns the light off, MiB is now free to leave the island because the link was broken. But, and this is very important, he also lost all his powers. He was now just another mortal being stuck in a body that looks like John Locke (As we saw him bleed when Jack punched him, and then he died on that cliff in the end of course). This brings me to the real threat the story was building towards, which was the island's energy/light itself (the source or energy. That is a combination of the science and faith theme in the show. Represented as electromagnetic energy and also something much much more). Once the light or the mechanism turned off, that energy was unstable (sort of like the hatch but much worse). And the whole plot about the sickness and the pregnancy problem is part of the side effects (the statue of Taweret is about that as well, referring to the issue of pregnancy going back a long time ago and being known and stopped by previous people and civilizations). The sickness is also a combination of what we saw happen to Danielle's crew and Desmond and the freighter as well (Consciousness jumping through time until your brain fries). That's what I believe was really at stake. And the fact that Jack had to go back to turn the mechanism back on, it means the threat was not over after the death of MiB. MiB was just the cause of it because of what he wanted, because of his goal. He wasn't evil incarnate, he was just the tool that would've lead to catastrophe (And Jacob in a moment of rage and stupidity created that tool and had to serve the rest of his life keeping that tool in its place. Which I think was sort of the punishment for his actions, meaning Jacob). This is just my perspective on this part of the story. Even if you don't agree with it, I hope it's interesting at least. And now that I've rambled on, yes, talking about LOST does make you look and sound insane. Now I get how Hurley felt! XD
Thank you! The show is about people! It has science fiction elements, that do keep me interested. But, the writers did enough when explaining the sci-fi areas. Like seriously. The shows main issue. As mentioned. Were the ways it was stretched and how it was marketed in promos. The writers do not control the marketing for ABC. People lost sight of whats important about the show, as well as the network. But I stand by those writers they did the best job possible with what they had to work around. I dont see that final episode/sideways storyline wrap up as cheap ITS NOT PURGATORY. Its a powerful message about the human experience that cant be labeled so acutely. Or as to misunderstand the whole show fundamentally. Lost is my all time favorite show because of the defined characters. Except Nikki and Paolo ;)
"Across the Sea" is an episode I often point to, as well, for being problematic. A big reason I find it problematic is that it stops the story near the finish line to give us the sympathetic backstory to the man who killed Sun and Jin, the episode right after they died. From my point of view, that's not when I want that information. I have no sympathy for this man. He just killed two of my favorite characters. I am not going to empathize with him right now. You should have given me this information several episodes earlier, made me question my judgement of the man in black, maybe even get me starting to root for him, only to have that rug yanked out when he tries to kill my heroes. Giving me this information after the fact makes me not care about the information. It's just a failure to understand how we as humans receive information, and the fact that timing of the release of information is just as important as the information itself.
Yeah, that episode probably should have had a different placement. I also wish it was a two-parter to learn more about the twins, Mother, and the people who set up a society on the island.
I'm not going to say LOST is a perfect show. BUT it was a brilliant show and left a lasting impact on tv. I personally loved the ending, and it was the only show to make me cry at its finale. I wept, man. I think there is a large majority of those who hated the ending that just flat out don't understand it. Every time I hear someone say they hate the ending, I ask them to explain what happened. 9 times out of 10, they don't even know what had happened. And I see this more and more out of the generation who watched the entire series on Netflix. You can't binge a show like LOST and get the most out of it, like those of us who watched the entire series from start to finish on tv, waiting weeks for episodes and years for seasons, giving us the time to think about what we've seen each episode, and speculate. You can't sit there and appreciate it to its fullest extent watching episode after episode and be able to process everything, and that seamless switch from episode to episode has a habit of making people pay less attention. Either way, man, I'm glad to have experienced LOST all those years.
Totally agree with the binge watching aspect. Also, I *still* get people saying how they liked the show but the ''fact the were dead all along ruined it''. I swear it gives me migraines.
I disagree about the binge watching. When the show was airing, I watched the first 3 seasons, then stopped for a while. Later I rewatched seasons 1-3 and saw 4 & 5 for the first time right before season 6 premiered and had no problem following any of it. A few months ago, nearly a decade after the series ended, I watched the whole thing again in about a month. Again I had no issues understanding it (though I did get more out of it, noticing more than before, etc). I think the real problem is with people not paying close attention to what they're watching, and not rewatching to discover more, rather than watching it too fast (though thinking about the show each week before the next episode was fun and can no longer be replicated unless new viewers have the patience to watch only one episode a week). I have to wonder how many people who think they were dead the whole time put the show on in the background while doing something else, and how many haven't even watched it but heard the ending was terrible from those who didn't pay attention?
The polar bear, what was with the polar bear?!? Okay I agree Lost was special though. I think they blew it in later seasons though. Unanswered questions are a HUGE problem. But man, it was magical waiting for episodes and watching it with friends and family, and theorizing on what was going on. Sad it wrapped up poorly. GOT same boat. It’s like being in an amazing relationship and ending in a terrible horrible fight. It doesn’t make everything worthless but it definitely gives it all a slight sour taste.
i find that I and a lot of newer lost fans have a different and unique experience, and why it is loved by newer fans. I started watching lost in 2013, 3 years after it finished and I have re-watched it every summer since then. I absolutely love lost and i think the reason is because i wasnt part of the community that were figuring out the mysteries, I instead watched it with my own opinions and focused in on how great the characters are. I always say dont watch lost for the mysteries, watch it for the characters. lost is my favourite show of all time and that is because of the beautiful character stories and arcs
I think this is a healthy take, but if I'm just watching for the characters, and not the mysteries, then I'm wasting a lot of my time because a significant portion of the show is setting up mysteries.
I watched it as it aired and didn't join in on the theories because I didn't want any spoilers. You don't know the struggle of waiting months possibly years between seasons! Being able to binge it now is a different experience, possibly making it much more enjoyable as I don't have to wait for the next episode if I don't want to!
I didn’t mind the final season. I thought the premise of the final episode was really sweet... that caring about people so much you might be able to spend forever with them. I’m so glad you brought up Stranger in a Strange Land, I really hated most of season 3. I was just annoyed. The polar bear cages were just so ridiculous.
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I remember saying basically the same thing to my friend after it ended. Something to the effect of it's not always your final destination but the road we take to get there... Still believe that
@@byungbin1395 I disagree. Although the show fails to answer some things it put up in early seasons, the finale left me strangely satisfied and I can't wait to see it again.
At 10:55, "If you didn't do your due diligence and listen to what we said, you were warned". Damon Lindehof You were way too easy on this gaslighting a-hole. He's blaming the fans themselves for being disappointed with the ending? Really? The problem was the whole 'mystery box' charade that he and Abrams kept pushing. They never gave answers because they themselves didn't have any--they just wrote without any underlying plan for a resolution of the story. Following a brilliant first season that hooked the audience, it became increasingly obvious that they had no plan, no idea how to build and progress the story except to push 'the answers' to the following week with yet another cheesy cliffhanger. People get angry when they realize they've been taken for a ride, when they realize they've been waiting for a story resolution that was never going to be there. And the reason people still talk about it is not because it's 'cool', it's because he's responsible for taking one of the most exciting and compelling first seasons ever and turning that series into a stinking dumpster fire disaster. He killed the whole budding serial mystery genre because nobody wanted to again invest time and emotion in what will eventually will turn out to be another empty mystery box.
@Jack Barton They promised answers inspite they had none. First Lidelof said, there wouldn't be timetraveling. Then he said, timetravel was in the DNA of the story from the beginning. Cuse said, all mysteries would have a real explanation or reference to physical or scientific basics. Abrahams said, it's purgatory, Lindelof and Cuse said, it's not, later they said, it could be purgatory.They had no obvious plan. It' s ridiculous. Instead solving any questions, they added and added stuff on stuff, lot of timestretching material , uncounted explosions, killing nearly all maincharacters, changing all maincharacters into new persons, friends became enemies, jack comparable to jesus, etc.
I didn't have the experience of even acknowledging Lost while it was running. I was still a bit bitter about the X-Files constantly promising revelations but never quite delivering. So I waited until it was over and streamed it a few years later. The ending wasn't a disappointment because I simply hadn't had the time between episodes to build much anticipation.
COMPLETELY AGREE. I've never had another experience like I did watching Lost. By the end of the second season, I was made aware of the DarkUFO community debating theories, people posting articles daily discussing and exploring each episode. It was amazing and added so much to watching the show itself. Lost will always have a special place in my memory because of this, and even now almost 10 years later, another show still has not even come close to what this show was (and I watch a lot of TV). It didn't end great, but the journey was fantastic... and to be honest I don't think i'll ever have a similar experience again. I watch TV differently now, as do many others. Lost was the last show that I would atcually watch week to week, and that was necessary to give you time to digest the episode and talk to others about it. Now I find shows I want to watch and I watch a season relatively quickly (one episode a day normally). Great video.
The flashsideways had nothing to do with saving the island or defeating the man in black? The flashsideways only exists because they saved the island. The light that engulfs them in the church is the same light as on the island. The flashsideways exists inside the light. Phenomenal, next level story telling.
It's not next level and phenomenal if the audience can't understand it. They never gave us any clues that the sideways flashes were a purgatory, and I spent all of season 6 thinking that they were some sort of alternate timeline
@@amil6353 Purgatory doesn't exist in the show. Purgatory is basically a temporary stay in Hell to pay for your sins. Afterlife in Lost is just about people finding each other. Not really a purgatory.
Camilo Rollie what’s so interesting about a story that is just spelled out for the viewer? I hate watching movies at night now. I’m usually too tired to really dedicate my attention. I like watching in the weekend mornings.
I watched this show as a teenager and good or bad it strongly impressed me. After all these years when I saw charlie's death scene in your video it gave me goose bumps, and I guess it would be the same for many other strong moments in the show. It will always have a different feeling for me.
LOST has he exact same ending as Titanic: - Rose dies in her sleep and is transported back to the Titanic where she is reunited with everyone who died including Jack, and as they kiss the scene is washed out in white light before transitioning to the end credits - Jack dies on the island while in the flashsideways he is reunited with everyone he survived with on the island. The scene is washed with light and fades out as Jack then finally closes his eyes and dies.
Season 5 wasnt the most acclaimed season, but I loved it from beginning to end. When they resurrected Sayid, things started to go downhill. They just spent a whole season explaining Dead is Dead, then total deus ex machina. And the Man in Black had so much potential that felt unreached.
YES! I've been saying this for years. "Across the Sea" is really the episode that we didn't need. Also, the last 2min of the finale. If you liked Lost for the characters, you may find the ending satisfying. If you liked Lost for the mythology of the Island and wanted answers, you def hated the ending. (Agree both worked to make the show what it was.) I was part of the former, and "Across the Sea" still ruined it for me. Also, let's not play down the effect this show had on all the other shows you love. Lost really needed an AMC, FX, HBO, Netflix, Hulu, etc. run to be one of the best shows. Just look at showrunner Lindelof's follow-up show "The Leftovers" on HBO to get a sense of what happens when you don't have one of the big-4 controlling your creative output. Even the Marketing was different - Lost: You will get all the answers. Leftovers: You will get no answers, only more questions.
I agree that the ending seemed rushed. It was as if the writers completely lost steam and just wanted to end it. The ending did not match the allure and excitement of the first few seasons. Not at all, in my opinion.
We began watching Lost a few months before my wife became pregnant with our first son. Now we’re re-watching it with him and he’s really enjoying it. Currently towards the end of season 4 :)
I love Lost. I went to the final Comic-Con panel. It was a great closure for me and the show. Great analysis and great last quote. It was about the journey. Being with the characters and learning about them and how they progress. I remember first watching with with my family. Then I had fun conversations with friends. I enjoyed the ending bc it was great to see them all together again. I had just moved it was like a reunion. I was away from my actual family but I had the show. Most if not all shows the final ending can never live up to the entirety of the show. Plus the feeling of losing something or something ending just can be painful. It was the best ending for me. Most of the main mysteries were explained. Like in life we can never know everything. Or be 💯 about everything. Knowing no ending can do it justice, I think them going with the ending they did just helped in some way with most fans with the grief of lose. The idea that we all die separately but maybe there is a moment our selves reunite one last time. It’s a beautiful afterlife they made. All the people we care about and hoped that they cared about us we get to see a final time. Like the final quote. It was closure that left us open to re-explore the show. I don’t go back and watch episodes anymore. But the ones I recall I remember those times in my life. ✌️
Very happy you made this video! Personally, having watched the show maybe 4-5 times now and consider it my favorite western-made show, I usually come back for the characters and the atmosphere of mystery rather than the mystery itself. I’m pretty sure this is because my viewing habits of tv and film lens towards mood and atmosphere far more than plot and answers. Otherwise the gripes people have with the show are very understandable. Love your videos!
Anyone who still feels burnt by Lost, I strongly recommend The Leftovers. It's another Lindelof show that's character-driven with a strong central mystery, but it wraps up in a way which feels satisfying and earned. It's only three seasons long as well.
I finally watched The Leftovers over the past few weeks and really enjoyed it. I was hesitant after the way Lindelof burned me with Lost. But he slightly redeemed himself. Let's see how he does with Watchmen.
The Leftovers is amazing. I have never felt so much just watching a show. The writing and music are incredible. In that one, they tell you from the get-go to "let the mystery be" and just watch how the characters navigate life.
@@EntertainTheElk My theory on how bad GOT ended is it's HBO's way of making everyone reconsider the Lost ending in an effort to promote Watchmen. "Hey, maybe Lost wasn't that bad..."
I really love this "When X Died" series. I tend to agree with the episode picked. For me, this show died somewhere in Season 2, when I realized the writers didn't even know the answers to the questions they were setting up. I don't buy their excuse of: "We meant to do that." However, it's a Bad Robot production, and JJ loves premises without answers, which is satisfying to just about no one.
I've always thought that the season 5 finale is a superior series finale to that of season 6. It would be more ambiguous, but more satisfying with the death of Jacob and the distinct posibility that the entire story is being re-started.
I think to understand Lost you really need to watch it in conjunction with The Leftovers and view it in terms of Damon Lindelof's learning process as a TV auteur. I watched Lost for the characters. Sure, I was frustrated with season 6, but the minute I see everyone in the church I go full-on ugly crying, because all these people I love are finally together. Juliet and Sawyer get their cup of coffee together, and I'm happy. With The Leftovers, Damon learned his lesson. He made it very clear from the beginning that the mythology doesn't matter, only the characters. You will never learn what actually happened at the Sudden Departure, or why 2% of the population disappeared all at once. Instead you will focus on the characters and their journey as they deal with the bigger questions of grief, belief, faith, and how you live in a world in which there is no certainty and there are no answers. It's the transcendent, spiritual equivalent of seeing the characters in the church, without the bitter taste of unanswered questions. Was Lost perfect? No. Did it influence an entire new era of television? Yes. In that aspect it was a success--it was a show that went for the big swing, and in spite of its misses it ultimately succeeded in introducing a more complex form of narrative that we now see today. Without Lost trying to understand the Island, we have no Westeros trying to survive a zombie apocalypse, we have no Walter White trying to outsmart Gustavo Fring. And without Lost we have no season 2 of The Leftovers, which I would argue is the single best season of television, of all time.
No matter how it ended, Lost is still my favorite series created so far. I didn't watch it in real time from week to week, but rather on dvd once the whole series was over. I have never been so enthralled in a story and I spent every moment of free time watching the show......like it was crack. The only other show that has come close to that for me has been Breaking Bad.
Man I'm rewatching lost now. I really think season 3 is the lowest point. At least it goes mental on the latter part. I 100% called this being the episode being the focus as soon as you said Season 3
I didn't like Nikki and Paulo, I really didn't like how they were introduced, but I did like their final episode. I liked how they didn't really care about the mystery, just their diamonds. Their last episode actually was the only one that made them interesting.
I loved the whole show. The ending had me in tears, but I've also had a lot of people close to me die. I guess for movie/show nerds it wasn't that great. Although, I did binge watch it in a week rather than over 6 years.
Great video. I’ve watched this show in the past and just learned more about the show now. I was confused about Jacobs’s storyline, but understand it more now. I can’t remember how I felt when I watched the final episode in 2010. But I do remember being happy to see all the characters together again and them being happy. It really was a show about the characters and as a viewer I love them. ❤️
The day Lost died for me was the day they introduced the FDW (or frozen donkey wheel). That single plot device represented a show that didn't know how to properly build mysteries or have satisfying payoffs anymore and was just throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what stuck. The second day was when they killed Locke, brought him back as the MIB possessed villain, and then still had everyone call him Locke even though they knew it wasn't him anymore...
Lost had me from the beginning and all the way through, I come back years later and watched it again. I could watch parts of season 5 over and over! I've heard people comparing MANIFEST to lost but it will never compare for me. Nothing will match the cast and characters of lost
"The show was about broken, flawed people finding redemption through community". That's very well put. It's obvious that the show just wanted to be about humans and how we all have to live together despite our differences, but certain themes and elements (like the smoke monster) had to be included to prolong the show. It's another example of how the stories with a show can be impacted by networks wanting 22+ episodes seasons.
The greatest show ever with the greatest character ever. I still remember watching the trailers and the premiere and just falling in love with the show. I still watch it at least once a year. I moderate for people who are reacting to it. I miss LOST.
Season 6 is one of my favorite seasons. I'm one of the fans who watched the show week-to-week & absolutely LOVED The End. I don't like having everything spelled out for me; I like putting it together myself & speculating, for instance the light they walk into being the metaphysical light/energy of the island (life, death, rebirth). The flash sideways were interesting because you are looking into the inner psyche of the characters, a reflection of their true struggles. It's very abstract. For example Jack and his "son" David; David represents Jack. We get to see how Jack is now healing from his emotional trama with Christian. I'm so proud of Jack when he finally feels at peace and knows his own worth! This is a show that encourages the viewer to think and ponder, and I'm totally fine with that. In fact I prefer it. I don't need to know every answer, because in real life I don't know every answer either. And this story feels very "real" when it comes to the characters. I had no problem with Across the Sea; I thought it was great but I wouldn't have minded seeing it at the beginning of the season instead of near the end. But whatever. I agree that ABC marketing caused problems and false expectations. I wish actors would've stayed on so we could've seen more of Libby & Eko, but that's really my only complaint, and I believe they did their best with what they had. For me, LOST never died and it's still my very favorite show of all time.
I literally just finished the show for the first time just a few days ago. And after GoT's ending, I feel much more satisfied with Lost's. You say it seemed rushed, but I guess it came off as dumb but executed with love to me. Much better than GoT's ending because the show runners stopped caring seasons before and just threw it in the trash at the end.
Man, I have so many feelings about LOST. when i got into the show way back when, it was phenomenal. so much love and affection for the characters. it's a shame the way the show ended. like..... a massive bummer. i still love it to this day and is one of my favorite shows and I will defend it despite it's glaring issues. but there's a part of me deep down that wishes we could go back in time and let the writers try again without CEO's and producers pressuring them for financial gain. it's almost as if the show was released ahead of it's time. in the age of television and weekly episodes. if it had come out nowaday in the age of streaming and mini-series, it might've had a coherent and nuanced conclusion.
Sorry, but as someone who watched the show years after it ended, the last bit of the video doesn't work for me since I was not part of the theory crafting while it aired. So I and I'm sure others had a very different experience just watching the show as it is. Sure we can look up articles and blog posts, but that is more like reading a wiki article for answers instead of being part of a community trying to decode the show as it airs. Just thinking of it now, but I hope Westworld doesn't fall into this same pitfall. I think season 1 still holds up very well, but I think season 2 might feel closer to what you talk about here.
I loved season 1 and 2 and it died for me personally in season 3 when they introduced a bunch of new characters who really didn't seem to care about acting well. It was then I realized all those leads where going nowhere and it just got more and more convoluted. I still haven't watched season 4 and 5 and 6 and I'm not going back to watch it, but appreciate the video you made Elk. Was pretty sure it would get cancelled, so am happy for the fans that they got to some kind of an end point after all!
Honestly the thing that kept me the most intrigued about lost was how they slowly explained "what came before" First the main characters arrive and believe there's nothing Then they find a french woman who arrived years earlier Then they find a Dharma Bunker from way earlier Then they find the others, and explain Benjamin's past Then they literally get the chance to LIVE decades before when Dharma was still at its prime Then it is explained how Richard got to the Island in the first place, and where the huge ship came from. And finally they explain where Jacob himself came from. It's like a way of showing the origin of every single little detail that was ever put into the island. And I loved it.
I'm calling it before watching the video: Exposé or Stranger in a Strange Land. Any of those episodes. The third season in any case. Shit, 10+ years later I still remember the names of the episodes. I'm such a lostie lol. Edit: So it was Across the Sea after all. Well yeah, I remember that episode being a complete bummer. But as a fan I was and I will always be with the part of the show that focuses on the characters. To me, LOST wouldn't have been so great if it wasn't for Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sawyer, Locke, Charlie, Michale, Boone, Sharon, Claire, Jin, Sun, Ana Lucia, Eko, Faraday, Charlotte, Miles, Walt, Jacob, Ben, Richard, Juliet, etc. The mysteries were cool but I swear I was more invested in the personal fights between them. I knew thwy won't answer every single thing they put out there. Some are a little bit frustrating like the name of the Man in Black but come on, it's necessary to waste time revealing what the Hurley bird was or why the bodies in the cave had those stones?? I remember watching all those LOST copycats until they get boring or cancelled. They were missing the character factor, the drama factor. ANyone can make a show about wierd mysteries but they didn't had what LOST had until the very end. I loved the video. I suggest Heroes (S2) or Prison Break (S3) for the next episodes of this series.
It was not that they had to cram in as much as they could, it was to build up the story as much as they could before they revealed the back story of Jacob and MIB, they built up that story for 6 seasons and devoted an entire episode for it, par for par that’s pretty much enough footage for a couple or even 3 flashback episodes. The buildup in my opinion made that episode even more powerful, just like Richard Alpert’s backstory. Lost’s ending in my opinions was a two for one, the flash sideways was a vessel to catalyze the character’s redemptions where they couldn’t have had it otherwise. That’s what the show was about, character redemption.
Like the story that happened with jack on the island, THAT was the ending, everything you saw in the afterlife was just a way to solidify the redemption, something they didn’t even have to let us see but they did.
I binged watched LOST with a box set DVD and I think that’s the best way to watch the show. There wasn’t that online interaction or obsessively theorising about the lore so I wasn’t disappointed when there weren’t any answers. I usually tell people ‘I love half of LOST’s ending’ because the main story outside of the purgatory storyline was really fun. It was silly and convoluted but I never felt I needed to know a lot of the answers. It’s a magic teleporting island with the glowing light inside it, there aren’t going to be answers. The best part of the ending was Ben and Hurley becoming the protectors, their character arcs were my favourite and it was the best resolution.
Every decent writer knows that when they present a question, they are agreeing to a contract with the audience, that they know the answer and will either reveal that answer or give the audience tools to answer that question for themselves. Lost is the perfect example of bad storytelling; the writers should be ashamed of creating questions that they were not talented enough to solve. The craziest part is that Lost is one of the few shows that felt as if the fans were coming up with better theories and putting forth more effort in solving these questions than the writers. As an audience member, I feel like we should be boycotting the future endeavors of each writer of Lost.
LOST did that mostly very fine. Why are people like you ignoring that? And what theories are actually better than the show? People always say that and I hardly ever see anything that's interesting.
so true, they were creative and added and added plots, but they put too much into the show, so that they lost overview. Besides that, it seemed to me like opening a matrouschka, one riddle after the other, parallels and contexts between the lines, hidden hints for literature, so it could be quite interesting to figure out things, but for the average viewer, it could be too much. The mysteries were not difficult to analyze, but the interaction of the characters, their developpment or regressing, etc.told the story.
I'm so happy I got to experience Lost while it aired, it was such a fun ride, the weekly speculations in the forums, the anticipation every week. It truly changed TV for the better and I'm happy that it had such a huge influence, even though now it has become a new formula in and of itself that is getting stale.
You know I love lord of the rings and the hobbit trilogies also I do like the idea that Bilbo didn’t just leave after the death of Smaug because it built on the most important relationship in both series Bilbo and Gandalf as well as giving a much more satisfactory end to a wonderful set of films started in 1999 and ended in 2013 what a wonderful ride it has been for every fan of the novels and films and most importantly thank you Professor Tolkien and Peter Jackson also I can’t wait to see the 4K remasters this Christmas you have turned the whole year around for me and everyone else thanks again
Lindelof constantly screws up the stuff he writes. That explanation he gave was a cop out. I think it started dying when they knocked off Locke, the heart of the show for me.
I think they removed them bcs actor who played Walt physicly changed in real life (puberty) and they probably couldnt make him grow up so fast in the show too. I mean if u look at him at start and in season where Locke come to see how is he doing, you can see drastic change.
Nice video. I liked the "time to debate with friends and family" part.. it WAS fun to watch LOST after school with friends. One thing i don't get is how people don't like the ending.. The people who flew away lived a "normal" live. The people who died, got another chance in a mystical parallel world outside of time.. with their memories! Couldn't have ended better imo ^^
Same thing happened to Battlestar Galactica. Really a terrible shame, though I'm sure they had their reasons. Just very unfortunate for the effects it had.
I loved it when I watched it when it first played on TV, I loved the main cast, I loved the mysteries. I loved the flash backs, flash sideways, forwards.....the end. I got it! I watched the whole series last year, every episode every season. When I watched the last episode, and wiped away the tears...what did I do? Went right back to the beginning and watched the whole thing again lol my son couldn't believe it when I told him I was about to embark o doing it all again. Yeah I know everything that happens, some things become clearer, or bits I must have left the room for a minute and missed I'll notice. But I just loved spending time with these amazing actors and actresses... Best series ever made.
for me personally lost died at the end of season 3... it was the point i realized there was not gonna be any real satisfactory answer to things i wanted answers too.. none that id personally find satisfactory anyway.. and it felt like it passed a logical end point... everyone was getting off the island, everything could have been wrapped up tightly with an ambiguous yet reasonable answer and from that point on i kept asking myself why it was continuing
This series never "died" to me. I still love each season as I rewatch them. It sucks they were pulled off Netflix though. Some unanswered questions are annoying, like what exactly are "the rules" and what was that circle of ash for in front of Jacob's cabin. Every thing else I feel has been answered. Whether the answer is unfulfilling is a different matter.
I loved the ending. I know it didn’t answer every single question, but one of the main points of the show is the mysteries. if every question were to be answered, it’d make the show ultimately pointless, you know? this show for sure had its flaws, but I really didn’t hate any of it. this show is incredible.
I loved LOST; all of it. Still do. I remember where I was the day it premiered, and how I felt the day it premiered watching this unbelievable story start. But what made it the show that it was... it was the characters. Their stories throughout the series. I haven't read through all the comments, but has anyone mentioned the amazing soundtrack that went along with this amazing show? It was beautiful; and they kept how the theme that carried throughout the series. Titles like "No Place Like Home", and "Moving On", I still listen to them. Yes, the show got "LOST" a bit in the mid-seasons with the mythology and answering the questions of the island... but the story was about the characters and their struggles of being LOST - emotionally, in their lives, and literally - before, during, and after the island. I'm sure I'm not the only fan who realized the show ended just as it started - Jack in the jungle, the shoe in the tree, Vincent... I thought it was touching, and perfect.
I suppose that someone who advocates for endless character development wouldn't want to - at some point - focus on and spend more time with said developed characters. It also seems that there are some intricate plot details that slipped by the author. The flash-sideways were in no way "pointless", as they served to flesh out the characters even more in a different and evolving setting - seeing what they were heading for in the very real "alternate" timeline after Jughead went off. Like it or not, this is an in-depth look at the mythology of the show, and it explores the idea of alternate universes/timelines in a very succinct way, namely, with people we already know. If you do not "care" about these timelines, then it may be the case that you never really cared for or about the characters in the first place. Or about the theory/worldbuilding behind the show - which you clearly claim to be invested in. If the "real" timeline was what you cared about, you may have missed the point. The "pointless" timeline was equally real - if you follow the mythology and world that the show has built. Now, fair enough, you can not like the fact that there was an alternate timeline created, but to pretend like it "didn't matter for the real storyline" (not quoting here) just shows a fundamental flaw in your perception of both timelines. On loose ends - there are actually very few loose ends if you take the time to dig deeper and maybe content yourself with answers that you formulated on your own. You would think that a show showing its characters trying to find answers, not always finding them, sometimes formulating their own, would entice its viewers to do the same. Never underestimate the viewer, the saying goes. Overestimation appears to be, kind of a thing too, apparently. I may be acting too harshly, granted. But with the show being done for so long, you would think time would diminish the platitudinal and superficial takes on wHy LoSt wAs sO bAd. Having now seen this entire video, I'm being too harsh. The final quote does encapsulate the experience nicely - and it hints at the level of investment from viewers. We are not watching the characters, we are characters of our own, lost in the conundrum and absurdity of existence.
It always really annoyed me that people misunderstood the finale and went "oh so they WERE in purgatory for the whole show". I don't know why this myth is so widespread. That's not what happened and anyone who actually watched the whole show knows that. I've been correcting people on that for years at this point on places like reddit. They were only in purgatory in the flash forwards in the final season. Which is set decades after all the events of the rest of the show, after everyone has lived a life and died. I shouldn't get annoyed by it, it doesn't really matter, but I do nevertheless.
If you gotta correct people then that just shows you how bad that show was. If people believe it was purgatory the whole time, it's because the d amn writers made it seem that way. Its not the viewers fault. It's the damn writers.
@@sfdko3291 The show specifically states in the final few minutes that the whole thing wasn't purgatory. If people missed that, then that's their fault, not the writers.
The biggest problem, for me, was that each episode was advertised as answering questions, which they didn’t. They lead to more and more questions which kept piling up which I think backed the writers into a corner by the end.
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@El Nodj that show lived from start to finish though
The flash on cw
Edit: actually the entire arrowverse would work but I think flash would be the most interesting one to hear your take on
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Mysteries aside, LOST propped up character development and interaction more than MOST modern shows even fucking dare to. And it did it well.
Exactly. The back stories and character developments made up for the story line being all over the place. Which is why I’ve rewatched Lost about 4-5x lol mostly to pass the time when I’m bored.
THE best in that department, I'd say.
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Absolutely agree, how do you cast such a large show and give everyone a back story and also make them likeable. Casting and Characters is what kept me tuning in each week...
I feel like the people who truly appreciate Lost are the ones who understand thats its a story about a bunch of characters who don't realize how connected they are, and how they grow, that happens to take place on a crazy mysterious island. Not a story about a crazy mysterious island.
What fascinates me the most is how so many people STILL hate the finale based solely on the incorrect presumption that it confirms that "they were dead the whole time."
Not solely on that, the fact the writing for the final season was truly awful and hard to watch
Steve Debono You speak for yourself, but a lot of people DO hate it for that reason alone.
@@MLennholm did u enjoy the final seasons writing?
Steve Debono Not really. Honestly I don’t remember much because I haven’t watched it since it first aired. At least I understood the ending though.
Yeah I never understood how anyone came to that conclusion.
I’m happy that LOST at least realized it wouldn’t be able to end itself properly so it focused on what made it great in the first place, giving satisfying endings to the characters
But it didn't.
By having them posthumously hug in a church!?
Yeah especially with sideways timeline Ben. That was powerful!
McFly they moved on
I agree, it wasn't perfect, but perfect was gonna be really hard to pull off. I loved it regardless. They did kind of all accept it and move on which was great! That all the people and the island were over truly, sorta peaceful *insert a deep John Locke quote*.
Despite the flash sideways, and some stumbles....LOST is still one of the best stories ever told on TV. Highly re-watchable.
What was wrong with the flash sideways?
Seethi C personally, I’ve grown to accept them as they are. However, serving only as an epilogue of sorts for the story, they are shoehorned into each episode causing distraction and bloat. More importantly, people walked away from the final season believing they all actually died in the crash, in purgatory, etc while the story was actually very straight forward. I get what they were trying to accomplish but the execution was lousy and confused everyone. Still, best series ever.
I still cant re-watch it.
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Eddie Vargas I would tend to disagree. Seeing, for example, the Jack and Locke dynamic in the afterlife is essential to me for a complete story, without it the entire lesson of the show is null and void.
That ending always gets me when the dog lays down next to him..
why?
joe schmoe because it all ended how it started.
@@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia oh okay, so I'm sorry I read your comment wrong, I thought you were saying that you were mad about that. yea, no I like that, I thought it was awesome!
Me too, because I love my dogs as they were my children. The emotional connection between Jack and Vincent in that scene is so moving to me.
Live together, Die alone. Did you noticed that Vincent lays down next to Jack so he wouldn't die alone?
The characters of Lost made up for storyline issues, for me. By the end, i didn't know what was going on, but I didn't really care. So much heart break, sweet moments, thought provoking story lines. It's a great show and very rewatchable
I'll see you in another life, brotha.
Still 100 times better than the GoT ending.
Man... you might be right. But that's not saying much.
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Lost was 1000 times worse. Not even close.
The pilot legit blew my mind. I was hooked from the beginning. Also Desmond ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Loved Desmond also. If Jack's character was a real man I would fall hard for him.
As a heterosexual male, I also ❤️ Desmond.
DementorsKiss Jack...blah, I loved Sawyer!
Desmond was my favorite as well. That's coming from a straight man
Desmond is legit one of the best characters in any TV show
I would argue Lost is one of the few shows were the legacy of the finale has gotten better as time has gone on. People have gotten over the fact some of the tiny mysteries went unanswered and just appreciated it for what it was
Alexander Cohen I completely agree! The more I watched the show the more I began to enjoy the end. I just started watching it since being home on quarantine and I see so much more now and really appreciate the show even better
@@ethanplacella also watching it on quarantine. Way better than I remembered
I'd argue most of the mysteries got solved.
People have also realized on rewatch binges that most things were answered. It’s just that watching it weekly over the course of 6 years made it hard to remember all the clues.
@@ethanplacella I watched it in the quarantine and this was the first time I watched Lost. It is the best series of all time. I thoroughly enjoyed it.
Being a insane fan of the show back in the days, I was so afraid of rewatching it. Thought that I would realice it was not that great. I was wrong. Even now, is one of the best TV shows you can watch. The production values on the first 3 seasons is incredible. Best show ever.
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So turns out "Lost" was all about the friends we made along the way... beautiful :")
I really enjoyed all of the lost seasons, each time i rewatch i find more in it, do agree with some of these points though.
I get why people who were invested in the mythology and came up with all kinds of theories didn’t like the ending, but I connected with the characters and found every answer given fulfilling, personally
I agree, but I think this is the fatal flaw of the show. I love rewatching Lost, gets better every time, but that's a LOT to ask of your audience when there's over a hundred hours of your show. Unfortunately, that's how it had to work in order for the show to be so genius.
@@lyramsr At the time, it was being marketed as scientifically accurate. So a lot of peoples expectations (including my own) about the direction of the show were that it would be a logically consistent ending, rather than magic. That said, after I thought about it, there was already a lot of magic in the show (Richards immortality, smoke monster etc) I just didn't have enough information to come to those conclusions at the time due to the cards being held so close to their chest. I, and probably others too, just expected some sci-fi explanation. Which is likely the direction the fan theories took that led to the disappointment in the actual ending.
That said, the ending resolves all it needs to and once I'd watched it again, I was satisfied with it.
I remember I really enjoyed season 5 because I thought we were going to get a lot of answers with the whole time travel thing. I even had a theory that the food drop the group gets back in season 2 (I think it was season 2) was actually sent forward in time and came from the past when the Dharma Initiative was active. But no the writers just said that was a confirmed plot hole. Like really?
I agree
Lost never died.
It was, it is and it will be forever.
@DillyDyson007 I don't think so
it died in season 3.
@@orangewarm1 According to who? You? That's just opinion. Means nothing
@@orangewarm1 I am at season 3 rn and it is awesome!
DillyDyson007 It was deserving of death from the first episode. It just lingered on and on.
I binge watch this show every two years or so. Each time I watch it, I see more things I didn't see before. I respect the opinion in this video, but I say the show gave us much more than "bread crumbs" along the way. And while I 'hated' the end when it originally aired, I've got a completely different interpretation by the time I watched it the fourth time. That's not by accident, that's because the show gave us enough to fill in the blanks that perhaps they didn't have time to. After all, who better to do it? I didn't have to worry about schedules, coming in under budget and making money. I could simply ponder the show at my leisure.
I think the difference between a cheesy and a sentimental ending is the quality of the story that came before it
It seems Lost was supposed to be a 4 season show, but stretching it out to 6 seasons had its consequences. Still, I consider it to be one of the greatest shows ever put on television, especially for the time. If you missed an episode, you _might_ be able to figure out what's going on if you really paid attention, but if you missed more than one episode it made no sense at all. There really haven't been any other shows like it.
4 seasons would of been great. It went downhill after Season 4.
@@trishamgreen Yes , I can't see season 5 and 6 anymore. Let's pretend Jack and Kate are still in the "real" world
The feelings articulated by this video are spot on but geez, this is the second LOST retrospective I've seen that didn't deal with the NUMBERS! And I love how all the commenters who've talked themselves into thinking the ending was even close to satisfying. Face it, you wasted 6 years of your life on this show that they can't give you back! Denial ain't just a river...
My ONLY major complaint was Adam and Eve in the cave. They have multiple opportunities to make those skeletons significant (Rose and Bernard, Kate and Jack, or even Desmond and Penny). But no, you made it two characters that we meet at the very end of the whole series. That felt like a massive waste of an opportunity.
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I will say this about Jacob and the man in black, and this is just my opinion and speculation of course.
And sorry for the long comment. A passionate fan is passionate, but I hope my ideas are interesting at least.
As much as I really do understand the hate or dislike towards (Across the Sea), I also believe it's a very important episode to understand the actual dynamic between Jacob and his brother and the roles they've played (Both as characters and as a board game analogy).
Every time we learned about Jacob or MiB it was from another character's perspective, believes and motives. The whole evil incarnate thing is baseless when you actually examine it. And really the whole story of LOST is about perspective and points of view. Same as the theme of science and faith.
From a character perspective (Across the Sea) throws the whole idea of Jacob is good and MiB is bad out the window, because we learn that actually they're both just other characters with their own emotions, goals and motives.
And the sad part about MiB's life is that he followed the rule of not being allowed to leave the island (which is a completely false rule since we saw people coming and leaving freely. And most of the rules mentioned throughout the show are actually just ways to control and manipulate others). But this false rule becomes a reality once Jacob throws his brother into the light, turning him into the smoke monster. An entity linked to this energy/source of the island. And now, as long as this source exists, he physically can't leave because he also lost his actual body.
To me that's the sad irony in MiB's life, the one thing that he wanted and was told he can't do actually became true.
In the end, once Desmond turns the light off, MiB is now free to leave the island because the link was broken. But, and this is very important, he also lost all his powers. He was now just another mortal being stuck in a body that looks like John Locke (As we saw him bleed when Jack punched him, and then he died on that cliff in the end of course).
This brings me to the real threat the story was building towards, which was the island's energy/light itself (the source or energy. That is a combination of the science and faith theme in the show. Represented as electromagnetic energy and also something much much more). Once the light or the mechanism turned off, that energy was unstable (sort of like the hatch but much worse). And the whole plot about the sickness and the pregnancy problem is part of the side effects (the statue of Taweret is about that as well, referring to the issue of pregnancy going back a long time ago and being known and stopped by previous people and civilizations). The sickness is also a combination of what we saw happen to Danielle's crew and Desmond and the freighter as well (Consciousness jumping through time until your brain fries).
That's what I believe was really at stake. And the fact that Jack had to go back to turn the mechanism back on, it means the threat was not over after the death of MiB. MiB was just the cause of it because of what he wanted, because of his goal. He wasn't evil incarnate, he was just the tool that would've lead to catastrophe (And Jacob in a moment of rage and stupidity created that tool and had to serve the rest of his life keeping that tool in its place. Which I think was sort of the punishment for his actions, meaning Jacob).
This is just my perspective on this part of the story. Even if you don't agree with it, I hope it's interesting at least.
And now that I've rambled on, yes, talking about LOST does make you look and sound insane. Now I get how Hurley felt! XD
Wow! Thanks for watching/commenting. :)
Thank you! The show is about people! It has science fiction elements, that do keep me interested. But, the writers did enough when explaining the sci-fi areas. Like seriously.
The shows main issue. As mentioned. Were the ways it was stretched and how it was marketed in promos. The writers do not control the marketing for ABC. People lost sight of whats important about the show, as well as the network. But I stand by those writers they did the best job possible with what they had to work around.
I dont see that final episode/sideways storyline wrap up as cheap ITS NOT PURGATORY. Its a powerful message about the human experience that cant be labeled so acutely. Or as to misunderstand the whole show fundamentally.
Lost is my all time favorite show because of the defined characters.
Except Nikki and Paolo ;)
"Across the Sea" is an episode I often point to, as well, for being problematic. A big reason I find it problematic is that it stops the story near the finish line to give us the sympathetic backstory to the man who killed Sun and Jin, the episode right after they died.
From my point of view, that's not when I want that information. I have no sympathy for this man. He just killed two of my favorite characters. I am not going to empathize with him right now. You should have given me this information several episodes earlier, made me question my judgement of the man in black, maybe even get me starting to root for him, only to have that rug yanked out when he tries to kill my heroes. Giving me this information after the fact makes me not care about the information. It's just a failure to understand how we as humans receive information, and the fact that timing of the release of information is just as important as the information itself.
Yeah, that episode probably should have had a different placement. I also wish it was a two-parter to learn more about the twins, Mother, and the people who set up a society on the island.
I'm not going to say LOST is a perfect show. BUT it was a brilliant show and left a lasting impact on tv. I personally loved the ending, and it was the only show to make me cry at its finale. I wept, man. I think there is a large majority of those who hated the ending that just flat out don't understand it. Every time I hear someone say they hate the ending, I ask them to explain what happened. 9 times out of 10, they don't even know what had happened. And I see this more and more out of the generation who watched the entire series on Netflix. You can't binge a show like LOST and get the most out of it, like those of us who watched the entire series from start to finish on tv, waiting weeks for episodes and years for seasons, giving us the time to think about what we've seen each episode, and speculate. You can't sit there and appreciate it to its fullest extent watching episode after episode and be able to process everything, and that seamless switch from episode to episode has a habit of making people pay less attention. Either way, man, I'm glad to have experienced LOST all those years.
Totally agree with the binge watching aspect. Also, I *still* get people saying how they liked the show but the ''fact the were dead all along ruined it''. I swear it gives me migraines.
I disagree about the binge watching. When the show was airing, I watched the first 3 seasons, then stopped for a while. Later I rewatched seasons 1-3 and saw 4 & 5 for the first time right before season 6 premiered and had no problem following any of it. A few months ago, nearly a decade after the series ended, I watched the whole thing again in about a month. Again I had no issues understanding it (though I did get more out of it, noticing more than before, etc). I think the real problem is with people not paying close attention to what they're watching, and not rewatching to discover more, rather than watching it too fast (though thinking about the show each week before the next episode was fun and can no longer be replicated unless new viewers have the patience to watch only one episode a week). I have to wonder how many people who think they were dead the whole time put the show on in the background while doing something else, and how many haven't even watched it but heard the ending was terrible from those who didn't pay attention?
The polar bear, what was with the polar bear?!?
Okay I agree Lost was special though. I think they blew it in later seasons though. Unanswered questions are a HUGE problem. But man, it was magical waiting for episodes and watching it with friends and family, and theorizing on what was going on. Sad it wrapped up poorly. GOT same boat. It’s like being in an amazing relationship and ending in a terrible horrible fight. It doesn’t make everything worthless but it definitely gives it all a slight sour taste.
i find that I and a lot of newer lost fans have a different and unique experience, and why it is loved by newer fans. I started watching lost in 2013, 3 years after it finished and I have re-watched it every summer since then. I absolutely love lost and i think the reason is because i wasnt part of the community that were figuring out the mysteries, I instead watched it with my own opinions and focused in on how great the characters are. I always say dont watch lost for the mysteries, watch it for the characters. lost is my favourite show of all time and that is because of the beautiful character stories and arcs
I think this is a healthy take, but if I'm just watching for the characters, and not the mysteries, then I'm wasting a lot of my time because a significant portion of the show is setting up mysteries.
I watched it as it aired and didn't join in on the theories because I didn't want any spoilers. You don't know the struggle of waiting months possibly years between seasons! Being able to binge it now is a different experience, possibly making it much more enjoyable as I don't have to wait for the next episode if I don't want to!
I agree
I didn’t mind the final season. I thought the premise of the final episode was really sweet... that caring about people so much you might be able to spend forever with them.
I’m so glad you brought up Stranger in a Strange Land, I really hated most of season 3. I was just annoyed. The polar bear cages were just so ridiculous.
I really don’t understand people who dislike a video so quick. Who are these people?
The ending was pretty bad especially they supposed to have volcano on finale
it says 0 dislikes for me, but I know what you mean. These are questions mankind will never know the answers to...
who cares about the dislike ratio anyway...
Lol I just wrote the same thing, I saw the video posted 14min 4 dislikes the video is 17 min long
No matter how good or harmless a video is, it always is going to have a small percentage of dislikes. The reasons may be:
- People who disagree w/ the video.
- People who dislike lost, and feel like they have to dislike when they don't like the subject on a video.
- People who have no idea how likes and dislikes works
- Babies who accidentally press the dislike button.
Lost was never about the ending, it was about the ride
I remember saying basically the same thing to my friend after it ended. Something to the effect of it's not always your final destination but the road we take to get there...
Still believe that
@@stevenhoward1233 that's just an excuse, we should expect more of writers. It was great, but amounted to nothing.
Only that the ending made the ride completely pointless. If you knew the ending beforehand, would you have watched the entire thing?
@@byungbin1395 Totally, re-watched already.
@@byungbin1395 I disagree. Although the show fails to answer some things it put up in early seasons, the finale left me strangely satisfied and I can't wait to see it again.
loved this
Thanks!
Jarvis what are you doing here
JAVRIS
Jarvis why are you everywhere
I liked the final episode of Lost. Sue me.
I'm not the only one! I also think the show got better each season.
Me too, although i despise the last 10 minutes. Very patronising
@@j1mmysp1der How's it patronizing?
I liked it. Maybe not loved it but thought it could’ve been way worse...
I might
At 10:55, "If you didn't do your due diligence and listen to what we said, you were warned". Damon Lindehof
You were way too easy on this gaslighting a-hole. He's blaming the fans themselves for being disappointed with the ending? Really? The problem was the whole 'mystery box' charade that he and Abrams kept pushing. They never gave answers because they themselves didn't have any--they just wrote without any underlying plan for a resolution of the story. Following a brilliant first season that hooked the audience, it became increasingly obvious that they had no plan, no idea how to build and progress the story except to push 'the answers' to the following week with yet another cheesy cliffhanger. People get angry when they realize they've been taken for a ride, when they realize they've been waiting for a story resolution that was never going to be there. And the reason people still talk about it is not because it's 'cool', it's because he's responsible for taking one of the most exciting and compelling first seasons ever and turning that series into a stinking dumpster fire disaster. He killed the whole budding serial mystery genre because nobody wanted to again invest time and emotion in what will eventually will turn out to be another empty mystery box.
@Jack Barton They promised answers inspite they had none. First Lidelof said, there wouldn't be timetraveling. Then he said, timetravel was in the DNA of the story from the beginning. Cuse said, all mysteries would have a real explanation or reference to physical or scientific basics. Abrahams said, it's purgatory, Lindelof and Cuse said, it's not, later they said, it could be purgatory.They had no obvious plan. It' s ridiculous. Instead solving any questions, they added and added stuff on stuff, lot of timestretching material , uncounted explosions, killing nearly all maincharacters, changing all maincharacters into new persons, friends became enemies, jack comparable to jesus, etc.
I didn't have the experience of even acknowledging Lost while it was running. I was still a bit bitter about the X-Files constantly promising revelations but never quite delivering. So I waited until it was over and streamed it a few years later. The ending wasn't a disappointment because I simply hadn't had the time between episodes to build much anticipation.
COMPLETELY AGREE. I've never had another experience like I did watching Lost. By the end of the second season, I was made aware of the DarkUFO community debating theories, people posting articles daily discussing and exploring each episode. It was amazing and added so much to watching the show itself. Lost will always have a special place in my memory because of this, and even now almost 10 years later, another show still has not even come close to what this show was (and I watch a lot of TV). It didn't end great, but the journey was fantastic... and to be honest I don't think i'll ever have a similar experience again. I watch TV differently now, as do many others. Lost was the last show that I would atcually watch week to week, and that was necessary to give you time to digest the episode and talk to others about it. Now I find shows I want to watch and I watch a season relatively quickly (one episode a day normally). Great video.
The flashsideways had nothing to do with saving the island or defeating the man in black? The flashsideways only exists because they saved the island. The light that engulfs them in the church is the same light as on the island. The flashsideways exists inside the light. Phenomenal, next level story telling.
It's not next level and phenomenal if the audience can't understand it.
They never gave us any clues that the sideways flashes were a purgatory, and I spent all of season 6 thinking that they were some sort of alternate timeline
Camilo Rollie that’s what you’re supposed to think until they finally reveal that they are in purgatory in the last episode
@@amil6353 Purgatory doesn't exist in the show. Purgatory is basically a temporary stay in Hell to pay for your sins. Afterlife in Lost is just about people finding each other. Not really a purgatory.
@@amil6353 I know, but the revelation wasn't fully clear either
Camilo Rollie what’s so interesting about a story that is just spelled out for the viewer? I hate watching movies at night now. I’m usually too tired to really dedicate my attention. I like watching in the weekend mornings.
I watched this show as a teenager and good or bad it strongly impressed me. After all these years when I saw charlie's death scene in your video it gave me goose bumps, and I guess it would be the same for many other strong moments in the show. It will always have a different feeling for me.
LOST has he exact same ending as Titanic:
- Rose dies in her sleep and is transported back to the Titanic where she is reunited with everyone who died including Jack, and as they kiss the scene is washed out in white light before transitioning to the end credits
- Jack dies on the island while in the flashsideways he is reunited with everyone he survived with on the island. The scene is washed with light and fades out as Jack then finally closes his eyes and dies.
Season 5 wasnt the most acclaimed season, but I loved it from beginning to end. When they resurrected Sayid, things started to go downhill. They just spent a whole season explaining Dead is Dead, then total deus ex machina. And the Man in Black had so much potential that felt unreached.
dead is dead, what happened happened. Really' great 'messages.
I also feel like Charles Widmore had a lot of untapped potential
I loved Lost from start to finish, fight me
No fighting in the War Room.
Aro N me too, it’s perfect to me
@@EntertainTheElk Haha I love your videos but first Community and now Lost? (ง'̀-'́)ง lets go bro
@@aron2540 I said that Community never died!!
I got your back!😉
YES! I've been saying this for years. "Across the Sea" is really the episode that we didn't need. Also, the last 2min of the finale.
If you liked Lost for the characters, you may find the ending satisfying.
If you liked Lost for the mythology of the Island and wanted answers, you def hated the ending. (Agree both worked to make the show what it was.)
I was part of the former, and "Across the Sea" still ruined it for me.
Also, let's not play down the effect this show had on all the other shows you love.
Lost really needed an AMC, FX, HBO, Netflix, Hulu, etc. run to be one of the best shows.
Just look at showrunner Lindelof's follow-up show "The Leftovers" on HBO to get a sense of what happens when you don't have one of the big-4 controlling your creative output.
Even the Marketing was different -
Lost: You will get all the answers.
Leftovers: You will get no answers, only more questions.
What's wrong with the last 2 minutes?
Lost: Rushed disappointing ending.
GoT: Hold my Starbucks cup.
How was the ending of LOST rushed? It was quite drawn out, because the network wanted it to last as long as possible.
Underrated comment. Hilarious 😆
I agree that the ending seemed rushed. It was as if the writers completely lost steam and just wanted to end it. The ending did not match the allure and excitement of the first few seasons. Not at all, in my opinion.
We began watching Lost a few months before my wife became pregnant with our first son. Now we’re re-watching it with him and he’s really enjoying it. Currently towards the end of season 4 :)
That's awesome!
My mom used to watch LOST with me as a baby. Now, almost 14 years old later, we are rewatching it together :)
Great video
In retrospect I really love the show
Any show that 9 years later I can still remember and love those characters must mean something....
Thanks!
im probably the only one who loved the show till the very end.
No, there are tons of people who loved it.
@@kuhpunkt No, he is the only one out of all humans on this planet, obviously. The phrasing "(I am) the only one" is so... No.
Nah... me too :)
You sure are
@@KarateEMouse Nah... I did too!
I love Lost. I went to the final Comic-Con panel. It was a great closure for me and the show. Great analysis and great last quote. It was about the journey. Being with the characters and learning about them and how they progress. I remember first watching with with my family. Then I had fun conversations with friends. I enjoyed the ending bc it was great to see them all together again. I had just moved it was like a reunion. I was away from my actual family but I had the show. Most if not all shows the final ending can never live up to the entirety of the show. Plus the feeling of losing something or something ending just can be painful. It was the best ending for me. Most of the main mysteries were explained. Like in life we can never know everything. Or be 💯 about everything. Knowing no ending can do it justice, I think them going with the ending they did just helped in some way with most fans with the grief of lose. The idea that we all die separately but maybe there is a moment our selves reunite one last time. It’s a beautiful afterlife they made. All the people we care about and hoped that they cared about us we get to see a final time. Like the final quote. It was closure that left us open to re-explore the show. I don’t go back and watch episodes anymore. But the ones I recall I remember those times in my life. ✌️
Very happy you made this video! Personally, having watched the show maybe 4-5 times now and consider it my favorite western-made show, I usually come back for the characters and the atmosphere of mystery rather than the mystery itself. I’m pretty sure this is because my viewing habits of tv and film lens towards mood and atmosphere far more than plot and answers. Otherwise the gripes people have with the show are very understandable.
Love your videos!
Thanks Noah! Glad to have you on board with the channel. :)
Anyone who still feels burnt by Lost, I strongly recommend The Leftovers. It's another Lindelof show that's character-driven with a strong central mystery, but it wraps up in a way which feels satisfying and earned. It's only three seasons long as well.
Man, the leftovers is so much better. But I should admit that it's not easy to watch, just because of how sad it makes you :D
I finally watched The Leftovers over the past few weeks and really enjoyed it. I was hesitant after the way Lindelof burned me with Lost. But he slightly redeemed himself. Let's see how he does with Watchmen.
The Leftovers is amazing. I have never felt so much just watching a show. The writing and music are incredible. In that one, they tell you from the get-go to "let the mystery be" and just watch how the characters navigate life.
@@EntertainTheElk My theory on how bad GOT ended is it's HBO's way of making everyone reconsider the Lost ending in an effort to promote Watchmen. "Hey, maybe Lost wasn't that bad..."
YES. The Leftovers is what Lost wanted to be.
I really love this "When X Died" series. I tend to agree with the episode picked. For me, this show died somewhere in Season 2, when I realized the writers didn't even know the answers to the questions they were setting up. I don't buy their excuse of: "We meant to do that." However, it's a Bad Robot production, and JJ loves premises without answers, which is satisfying to just about no one.
JJ was barely involved with the show and Damon didn't like his approach.
Glad you're enjoying the series!
I've always thought that the season 5 finale is a superior series finale to that of season 6. It would be more ambiguous, but more satisfying with the death of Jacob and the distinct posibility that the entire story is being re-started.
I think to understand Lost you really need to watch it in conjunction with The Leftovers and view it in terms of Damon Lindelof's learning process as a TV auteur. I watched Lost for the characters. Sure, I was frustrated with season 6, but the minute I see everyone in the church I go full-on ugly crying, because all these people I love are finally together. Juliet and Sawyer get their cup of coffee together, and I'm happy.
With The Leftovers, Damon learned his lesson. He made it very clear from the beginning that the mythology doesn't matter, only the characters. You will never learn what actually happened at the Sudden Departure, or why 2% of the population disappeared all at once. Instead you will focus on the characters and their journey as they deal with the bigger questions of grief, belief, faith, and how you live in a world in which there is no certainty and there are no answers. It's the transcendent, spiritual equivalent of seeing the characters in the church, without the bitter taste of unanswered questions.
Was Lost perfect? No. Did it influence an entire new era of television? Yes. In that aspect it was a success--it was a show that went for the big swing, and in spite of its misses it ultimately succeeded in introducing a more complex form of narrative that we now see today. Without Lost trying to understand the Island, we have no Westeros trying to survive a zombie apocalypse, we have no Walter White trying to outsmart Gustavo Fring. And without Lost we have no season 2 of The Leftovers, which I would argue is the single best season of television, of all time.
This comment deserves more likes.
I think no series has managed to reach Lost heights. It sure has its non satisfactory parts, but overall it was an amazing ride.
No matter how it ended, Lost is still my favorite series created so far. I didn't watch it in real time from week to week, but rather on dvd once the whole series was over. I have never been so enthralled in a story and I spent every moment of free time watching the show......like it was crack. The only other show that has come close to that for me has been Breaking Bad.
couldn’t agree more. this show just hits so different. unlike any other show i’ve seen. i will always love it.
Man I'm rewatching lost now. I really think season 3 is the lowest point. At least it goes mental on the latter part.
I 100% called this being the episode being the focus as soon as you said Season 3
i hated season 5, the whole time travel thing
Yeah, Season 3 was super slow. It ramped up near the end.
The 2nd half of season 3 was great. Not season 1 or 2 great, but still worthy. Hurley finding the Dharma van was one of my favorite episodes.
S3 is my second favorite season 🤷♂️
I didn't like Nikki and Paulo, I really didn't like how they were introduced, but I did like their final episode. I liked how they didn't really care about the mystery, just their diamonds. Their last episode actually was the only one that made them interesting.
it's been 11 years since I watched LOST and it still hunt me until now
🌴 it's simply the best 🌴
I loved the whole show. The ending had me in tears, but I've also had a lot of people close to me die. I guess for movie/show nerds it wasn't that great. Although, I did binge watch it in a week rather than over 6 years.
Great video. I’ve watched this show in the past and just learned more about the show now. I was confused about Jacobs’s storyline, but understand it more now. I can’t remember how I felt when I watched the final episode in 2010. But I do remember being happy to see all the characters together again and them being happy. It really was a show about the characters and as a viewer I love them. ❤️
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it.
The day Lost died for me was the day they introduced the FDW (or frozen donkey wheel). That single plot device represented a show that didn't know how to properly build mysteries or have satisfying payoffs anymore and was just throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what stuck. The second day was when they killed Locke, brought him back as the MIB possessed villain, and then still had everyone call him Locke even though they knew it wasn't him anymore...
Lost had me from the beginning and all the way through, I come back years later and watched it again. I could watch parts of season 5 over and over! I've heard people comparing MANIFEST to lost but it will never compare for me. Nothing will match the cast and characters of lost
I loved the ending, it’s my favourite tv show of all time
Yes. And I didn't think it was Purgatory. It was the apocalypse and the apocalypse was averted.
Until next time.
Mine as well
Louyvaton ABSOLUTELY AGREE!
Yes! I agree, the best of all time.
It was all a dream, they were all dead all the time. Talk about lazy. You just need to read more or watch better TV
"The show was about broken, flawed people finding redemption through community". That's very well put. It's obvious that the show just wanted to be about humans and how we all have to live together despite our differences, but certain themes and elements (like the smoke monster) had to be included to prolong the show. It's another example of how the stories with a show can be impacted by networks wanting 22+ episodes seasons.
It's amazing how Lindelof ended The Leftovers so brilliantly though, after the disjointed end to Lost.
The greatest show ever with the greatest character ever. I still remember watching the trailers and the premiere and just falling in love with the show. I still watch it at least once a year. I moderate for people who are reacting to it. I miss LOST.
14:57 "and maybe the real treasure is the friends we made along the way"
😂 More or less what I thought at that moment too.
Season 6 is one of my favorite seasons. I'm one of the fans who watched the show week-to-week & absolutely LOVED The End. I don't like having everything spelled out for me; I like putting it together myself & speculating, for instance the light they walk into being the metaphysical light/energy of the island (life, death, rebirth). The flash sideways were interesting because you are looking into the inner psyche of the characters, a reflection of their true struggles. It's very abstract. For example Jack and his "son" David; David represents Jack. We get to see how Jack is now healing from his emotional trama with Christian. I'm so proud of Jack when he finally feels at peace and knows his own worth! This is a show that encourages the viewer to think and ponder, and I'm totally fine with that. In fact I prefer it. I don't need to know every answer, because in real life I don't know every answer either. And this story feels very "real" when it comes to the characters.
I had no problem with Across the Sea; I thought it was great but I wouldn't have minded seeing it at the beginning of the season instead of near the end. But whatever. I agree that ABC marketing caused problems and false expectations. I wish actors would've stayed on so we could've seen more of Libby & Eko, but that's really my only complaint, and I believe they did their best with what they had. For me, LOST never died and it's still my very favorite show of all time.
I literally just finished the show for the first time just a few days ago. And after GoT's ending, I feel much more satisfied with Lost's. You say it seemed rushed, but I guess it came off as dumb but executed with love to me. Much better than GoT's ending because the show runners stopped caring seasons before and just threw it in the trash at the end.
Man, I have so many feelings about LOST. when i got into the show way back when, it was phenomenal. so much love and affection for the characters. it's a shame the way the show ended. like..... a massive bummer. i still love it to this day and is one of my favorite shows and I will defend it despite it's glaring issues. but there's a part of me deep down that wishes we could go back in time and let the writers try again without CEO's and producers pressuring them for financial gain. it's almost as if the show was released ahead of it's time. in the age of television and weekly episodes. if it had come out nowaday in the age of streaming and mini-series, it might've had a coherent and nuanced conclusion.
Sorry, but as someone who watched the show years after it ended, the last bit of the video doesn't work for me since I was not part of the theory crafting while it aired. So I and I'm sure others had a very different experience just watching the show as it is. Sure we can look up articles and blog posts, but that is more like reading a wiki article for answers instead of being part of a community trying to decode the show as it airs.
Just thinking of it now, but I hope Westworld doesn't fall into this same pitfall. I think season 1 still holds up very well, but I think season 2 might feel closer to what you talk about here.
I loved season 1 and 2 and it died for me personally in season 3 when they introduced a bunch of new characters who really didn't seem to care about acting well. It was then I realized all those leads where going nowhere and it just got more and more convoluted. I still haven't watched season 4 and 5 and 6 and I'm not going back to watch it, but appreciate the video you made Elk. Was pretty sure it would get cancelled, so am happy for the fans that they got to some kind of an end point after all!
You nailed it perfectly, it's the journey we all got to take while watching this show together, that made it so amazing.
Thanks! Glad you agree.
Honestly the thing that kept me the most intrigued about lost was how they slowly explained "what came before"
First the main characters arrive and believe there's nothing
Then they find a french woman who arrived years earlier
Then they find a Dharma Bunker from way earlier
Then they find the others, and explain Benjamin's past
Then they literally get the chance to LIVE decades before when Dharma was still at its prime
Then it is explained how Richard got to the Island in the first place, and where the huge ship came from.
And finally they explain where Jacob himself came from.
It's like a way of showing the origin of every single little detail that was ever put into the island. And I loved it.
I'm calling it before watching the video: Exposé or Stranger in a Strange Land. Any of those episodes. The third season in any case.
Shit, 10+ years later I still remember the names of the episodes. I'm such a lostie lol.
Edit: So it was Across the Sea after all. Well yeah, I remember that episode being a complete bummer. But as a fan I was and I will always be with the part of the show that focuses on the characters. To me, LOST wouldn't have been so great if it wasn't for Jack, Kate, Hurley, Sawyer, Locke, Charlie, Michale, Boone, Sharon, Claire, Jin, Sun, Ana Lucia, Eko, Faraday, Charlotte, Miles, Walt, Jacob, Ben, Richard, Juliet, etc. The mysteries were cool but I swear I was more invested in the personal fights between them. I knew thwy won't answer every single thing they put out there. Some are a little bit frustrating like the name of the Man in Black but come on, it's necessary to waste time revealing what the Hurley bird was or why the bodies in the cave had those stones??
I remember watching all those LOST copycats until they get boring or cancelled. They were missing the character factor, the drama factor. ANyone can make a show about wierd mysteries but they didn't had what LOST had until the very end.
I loved the video. I suggest Heroes (S2) or Prison Break (S3) for the next episodes of this series.
I think my favorite part of Westworld is Rodrigo Santoro redeeming himself for how bad Expose was.
Basically that blogpost was saying the true treasure was the friends we made along the way.
Lost is still in my top 3 favourite TV show of all time. What a great ride it was.
Such a great ride. Won't be anything else like it with all the online research.
It was not that they had to cram in as much as they could, it was to build up the story as much as they could before they revealed the back story of Jacob and MIB, they built up that story for 6 seasons and devoted an entire episode for it, par for par that’s pretty much enough footage for a couple or even 3 flashback episodes. The buildup in my opinion made that episode even more powerful, just like Richard Alpert’s backstory.
Lost’s ending in my opinions was a two for one, the flash sideways was a vessel to catalyze the character’s redemptions where they couldn’t have had it otherwise. That’s what the show was about, character redemption.
Like the story that happened with jack on the island, THAT was the ending, everything you saw in the afterlife was just a way to solidify the redemption, something they didn’t even have to let us see but they did.
4:50 "if a shows making money keep it going." That's a very American idea for TV.
Riding the horse until it dies underneath you was how most all American networks approached their shows
I binged watched LOST with a box set DVD and I think that’s the best way to watch the show. There wasn’t that online interaction or obsessively theorising about the lore so I wasn’t disappointed when there weren’t any answers.
I usually tell people ‘I love half of LOST’s ending’ because the main story outside of the purgatory storyline was really fun.
It was silly and convoluted but I never felt I needed to know a lot of the answers. It’s a magic teleporting island with the glowing light inside it, there aren’t going to be answers.
The best part of the ending was Ben and Hurley becoming the protectors, their character arcs were my favourite and it was the best resolution.
Every decent writer knows that when they present a question, they are agreeing to a contract with the audience, that they know the answer and will either reveal that answer or give the audience tools to answer that question for themselves.
Lost is the perfect example of bad storytelling; the writers should be ashamed of creating questions that they were not talented enough to solve. The craziest part is that Lost is one of the few shows that felt as if the fans were coming up with better theories and putting forth more effort in solving these questions than the writers.
As an audience member, I feel like we should be boycotting the future endeavors of each writer of Lost.
LOST did that mostly very fine. Why are people like you ignoring that? And what theories are actually better than the show? People always say that and I hardly ever see anything that's interesting.
so true, they were creative and added and added plots, but they put too much into the show, so that they lost overview. Besides that, it seemed to me like opening a matrouschka, one riddle after the other, parallels and contexts between the lines, hidden hints for literature, so it could be quite interesting to figure out things, but for the average viewer, it could be too much. The mysteries were not difficult to analyze, but the interaction of the characters, their developpment or regressing, etc.told the story.
I'm so happy I got to experience Lost while it aired, it was such a fun ride, the weekly speculations in the forums, the anticipation every week. It truly changed TV for the better and I'm happy that it had such a huge influence, even though now it has become a new formula in and of itself that is getting stale.
You didn't have to show Charlie with "Not Penny's Boat" on his hand... not cool, bro! #TooSoon lol
You know I love lord of the rings and the hobbit trilogies also I do like the idea that Bilbo didn’t just leave after the death of Smaug because it built on the most important relationship in both series Bilbo and Gandalf as well as giving a much more satisfactory end to a wonderful set of films started in 1999 and ended in 2013 what a wonderful ride it has been for every fan of the novels and films and most importantly thank you Professor Tolkien and Peter Jackson also I can’t wait to see the 4K remasters this Christmas you have turned the whole year around for me and everyone else thanks again
Lindelof constantly screws up the stuff he writes. That explanation he gave was a cop out. I think it started dying when they knocked off Locke, the heart of the show for me.
Lindelof wrote the leftovers, one of the best shows on hbo
@@jackw801 haven't seen it. I'll check it out. Thanks. In Qatar so don't get the normal shows.
I like DL, but hated what they did to Locke
WATCHMEN on HBO
I love this show, but I still hate what they did to Walt and Michael.
I think they removed them bcs actor who played Walt physicly changed in real life (puberty) and they probably couldnt make him grow up so fast in the show too. I mean if u look at him at start and in season where Locke come to see how is he doing, you can see drastic change.
This is weird, my older brother got me to watch lost and I finished the day this video came out, wow, what are the chances!
Wow! I totally thought the tattoo episode was the corner stone of jacks character. It's my favorite episode. I had no idea it was considered bad.
Lost never died. Its a series i will never forget my whole life!
Nice video. I liked the "time to debate with friends and family" part.. it WAS fun to watch LOST after school with friends.
One thing i don't get is how people don't like the ending.. The people who flew away lived a "normal" live. The people who died, got another chance in a mystical parallel world outside of time.. with their memories! Couldn't have ended better imo ^^
I believe that the writer's strike was a turning point and afterwards the show meandered.
No, it wasn't.
I would partially apply this to Heroes
Same thing happened to Battlestar Galactica. Really a terrible shame, though I'm sure they had their reasons. Just very unfortunate for the effects it had.
I loved it when I watched it when it first played on TV, I loved the main cast, I loved the mysteries. I loved the flash backs, flash sideways, forwards.....the end. I got it! I watched the whole series last year, every episode every season. When I watched the last episode, and wiped away the tears...what did I do? Went right back to the beginning and watched the whole thing again lol my son couldn't believe it when I told him I was about to embark o doing it all again. Yeah I know everything that happens, some things become clearer, or bits I must have left the room for a minute and missed I'll notice. But I just loved spending time with these amazing actors and actresses... Best series ever made.
It's crazy to me that this video was just made yesterday since I just started rewatching this whole show just a couple weeks ago
for me personally lost died at the end of season 3... it was the point i realized there was not gonna be any real satisfactory answer to things i wanted answers too.. none that id personally find satisfactory anyway.. and it felt like it passed a logical end point... everyone was getting off the island, everything could have been wrapped up tightly with an ambiguous yet reasonable answer and from that point on i kept asking myself why it was continuing
This series never "died" to me. I still love each season as I rewatch them. It sucks they were pulled off Netflix though. Some unanswered questions are annoying, like what exactly are "the rules" and what was that circle of ash for in front of Jacob's cabin. Every thing else I feel has been answered. Whether the answer is unfulfilling is a different matter.
It's all on a Hulu, brotha
@@LedbetterBand Oh I know. I got Hulu to watch ER so I was happily surprised when I saw this on there.
I loved the ending. I know it didn’t answer every single question, but one of the main points of the show is the mysteries. if every question were to be answered, it’d make the show ultimately pointless, you know?
this show for sure had its flaws, but I really didn’t hate any of it. this show is incredible.
Lost is one of the reasons the 2000's were so great.
Desperate housewives? Don't forget desperate housewives.
10:26 "They spent 6 years invested in the show" - 6 days of hardcore binge-watching :P
When I hear people praising S2 and crapping on maybe my favorite series finale, I get this feeling like a brain aneurysm is forming in my head.
I loved LOST; all of it. Still do. I remember where I was the day it premiered, and how I felt the day it premiered watching this unbelievable story start. But what made it the show that it was... it was the characters. Their stories throughout the series. I haven't read through all the comments, but has anyone mentioned the amazing soundtrack that went along with this amazing show? It was beautiful; and they kept how the theme that carried throughout the series. Titles like "No Place Like Home", and "Moving On", I still listen to them. Yes, the show got "LOST" a bit in the mid-seasons with the mythology and answering the questions of the island... but the story was about the characters and their struggles of being LOST - emotionally, in their lives, and literally - before, during, and after the island. I'm sure I'm not the only fan who realized the show ended just as it started - Jack in the jungle, the shoe in the tree, Vincent... I thought it was touching, and perfect.
For some reason, I always confused Lost with Total Drama Island as a kid.
I suppose that someone who advocates for endless character development wouldn't want to - at some point - focus on and spend more time with said developed characters. It also seems that there are some intricate plot details that slipped by the author. The flash-sideways were in no way "pointless", as they served to flesh out the characters even more in a different and evolving setting - seeing what they were heading for in the very real "alternate" timeline after Jughead went off. Like it or not, this is an in-depth look at the mythology of the show, and it explores the idea of alternate universes/timelines in a very succinct way, namely, with people we already know. If you do not "care" about these timelines, then it may be the case that you never really cared for or about the characters in the first place. Or about the theory/worldbuilding behind the show - which you clearly claim to be invested in. If the "real" timeline was what you cared about, you may have missed the point. The "pointless" timeline was equally real - if you follow the mythology and world that the show has built. Now, fair enough, you can not like the fact that there was an alternate timeline created, but to pretend like it "didn't matter for the real storyline" (not quoting here) just shows a fundamental flaw in your perception of both timelines.
On loose ends - there are actually very few loose ends if you take the time to dig deeper and maybe content yourself with answers that you formulated on your own. You would think that a show showing its characters trying to find answers, not always finding them, sometimes formulating their own, would entice its viewers to do the same. Never underestimate the viewer, the saying goes. Overestimation appears to be, kind of a thing too, apparently. I may be acting too harshly, granted. But with the show being done for so long, you would think time would diminish the platitudinal and superficial takes on wHy LoSt wAs sO bAd.
Having now seen this entire video, I'm being too harsh. The final quote does encapsulate the experience nicely - and it hints at the level of investment from viewers. We are not watching the characters, we are characters of our own, lost in the conundrum and absurdity of existence.
It always really annoyed me that people misunderstood the finale and went "oh so they WERE in purgatory for the whole show". I don't know why this myth is so widespread. That's not what happened and anyone who actually watched the whole show knows that. I've been correcting people on that for years at this point on places like reddit. They were only in purgatory in the flash forwards in the final season. Which is set decades after all the events of the rest of the show, after everyone has lived a life and died.
I shouldn't get annoyed by it, it doesn't really matter, but I do nevertheless.
Shit wasn't fucked till they dropped the bomb so I agree there.
If you gotta correct people then that just shows you how bad that show was.
If people believe it was purgatory the whole time, it's because the d amn writers made it seem that way.
Its not the viewers fault. It's the damn writers.
@@sfdko3291 The show specifically states in the final few minutes that the whole thing wasn't purgatory. If people missed that, then that's their fault, not the writers.
The biggest problem, for me, was that each episode was advertised as answering questions, which they didn’t. They lead to more and more questions which kept piling up which I think backed the writers into a corner by the end.
I dont care what anyone says, lost is amazing and that ending, i feel, was a perfect destination for the show