Landings Are The Most Difficult Part Of Flight Training| Porpoise Landing Recovery
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- Опубликовано: 18 апр 2020
- Landings are difficult, no matter which way you bounce them. Students and experienced pilots alike are always trying to improve their landings and this video highlights the difficulties that low time students can have. Brandon did a great job and as I say in the video; you have to go through the bad ones to find the good.
Enjoy the flight!
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“You’ve got to go through the bad ones to find the good ones” - not only sound instructional advice, but also great relationship advice, too.
Haha I’ve had practice with both sides of that coin.
Same advice I give when I teach welding...hahah
@@LewDixAviation yea, aI am still looking for the good one.....might learn o fly a plane too
LewDix Aviation must be your UK side of you also🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@LewDixAviation oi mate! getting a bit cocky now ey!
For me the landing part was easy, its affording flight training thats hard lol
The worst part is when you had money to fly and life happens and you waste almost 20 hours of training that you will have to repay for because you forgot it all.
Zooshee Studio sad but true :( stupid virus
Zooshee Studio took me 2 years with lots of stops for money, get a flight sim an practice
@@ZoosheeStudio we are in the same boat buddy, luckily for me, I'm back on track, and doing my check ride tomorrow
@@roastedlemon how did it go?
dam this instructor is nice af! trainer almost goes off the runway and he calmly fixes the mistake and GIVES THE CONTROLS BACK TO THE TRAINER holy shit ive never seen that amount of patience before.
Thanks mate! It’s just about knowing how far you can let things go before having to step in.
@@LewDixAviation only a handfull of instuctors can do that. mate your good. love from Sydeny
You are so right. My instructor was such a jerk. Not only does it take all the fun out of learning but it created some bad habits.
From one instructor to another, great job man. However i'm a driving instructor in Europe, the way to approach a student is similar. Nice and relaxed, letting the student make mistakes, telling him he's doing fine to boost his confidence and correcting him in a friendly way. If i'd ever take up flying, i hope i get an instructor like you man. Keep up the good work.
I appreciate that mate! Thank you!
Admire the way you maintain your nerve when a student makes a mistake, you often wouldn’t see that where I’m currently training, greetings from Kenya!
Ah thanks Ibra.. Kenya is a long way!
@@LewDixAviation watching all the way from Kenya! Great stuff this, Keep it up.
haha @Ibra Kadabra . I'm a former instructor in Kenya. Hope we would have met to show you how an instructor is supposed to behave, but I agree with you, many instructors in Kenya prefer shouting more that teaching someone nicely so as to understand.
I feel you.I got punched by an instructor in Zimbabwe
@@Blackmoses2 Hopefully after the lesson, on the ground (at the pub).
The kid looks like he's got the right stuff. Keen, teachable and humble. All the traits that make a great life long learner and excellent pilot!
He loves radio calls?? Dudes extra terrestrial 😂
Hey some of us copilots are radio monkeys so that's what we have to look forward to
sometimes i like to mumble coz i sound cool u know?
I'm the same way. But I also speak on the radio all the time for work.
Ya never know, he might have a future ham radio license, too.
As a former LaGuardia Tower controller, I enjoy the radio as well.
Haha “I think you’re over controlling”. Nicely put.
Me, watching his first approach: "Not bad...but MAN, he's killin' a snake in the cockpit..."
Wife: "Doing what?"
Lew: "Alright you're overcontrolling, i think..."
I would refer to my landings during training as "Bounce and Goes"
Every bounce counts
I once heard somebody say “ I like to register 4 to 5 landings per takeoff”
Slam and gos!
That’s actually the direct translation of the Swedish definition!
Bruce Homstad also known as “Crash and Dash”
His landings at 8 hours are better than probably my first 30 hours of training haha
Yeah...me too. Great student who obviously has done a lot of homework, and is confident and game to try. The instructor is great too, I’ve got one that I’m sure would have taken over on the bounced/porpoise landing, but that he refrained and let the student experience it, and later told him what the problem is and how to solve it. Very positive guy. And it’s always like that too, not just flying, you try and try, finally get one perfect, and the next one you blow...but it won’t last long and he will have it down.
It’s odd how quickly we develop habits, like his over controlling on landing, but that too hope gets ironed out with more time. He’s way better than I was at 8 hours.
Me too. That’s why if you live in a 💩weather area it pays to bite the bullet go get it done where you can fly a couple times a day. Far cheaper in the long run . You get good quick not messing around with scheduling weather planes ect.
these landings are so hard!?
"These things float longer than the Titanic" - hahahahaha :-D
Nothing but facts lol
@@LewDixAviation Yea, but the titanic sank...
Wolf Pilot r/wooosh
Jack Davies The 172 will float if you carry ANY extra speed above 1.3 x Vso. The Skyhawk teaches precise airspeed control for landing. And it looked as though his control input was getting ‘jerkier’ the closer they got to the ground.
Wolf Pilot It took almost 3 hours for it to sink. And yeah, Fazbear, that’s not a whoosh.
I've never flown a plane before, other than a 7-3-7 sim, but I have to say, I really enjoy these videos! I'm 60 years old, and I'm hoping to learn to fly after my retirement this Sept. Always something I've wanted to do.
Did you know your name translates to German as "Steve Fuck"? Good luck with your retirement :)
Hope you've managed to start training, or at a minimum tried a discovery flight?!
You always wonder how things turned out for people... Did you ever get your PPL Steve?
Holy cow. The way he was yanking that yoke made me nervous. I’ve never seen that much input before. You’ve got Supreme patience and poise.
hba8103
Yeah, he was really heavy handed, was fighting with the plane.
Robert Gaylord that’s youtube pilots for ya.
Every n00b overcontrols at first. That's why Cessna made the 172's ailerons so damn heavy.
@@PilotBossify Bro do I even lift
Get it? *Lift*?
"I don't know if its nervous, as much as so focused."
I tell myself the same thing.
This dude is gonna be a boss in the air! Even in this lesson alone you could see the understanding and improvement. Love seeing these tough lessons with students @lewdix. As a new CFI it’s super helpful seeing differing approaches to teaching, especially with the low time pilots. Keep up the good work man and stay healthy!
Glad it’s helping you man!
Looks like everytime he made mistakes the instructor slapped him hard off camera....😆😅
😂
I am also an 8-hour student and have only 9 landings. I couldn't tell if they're better or worse than these as I have NO IDEA what's going on - My instructor barks out the instructions and I do what I'm told... We spend a lot of time on Pitch Power Trim and practicing holding the yoke lightly - 'Just the finger tips and the ball of the thumb please... feel the pressure' It's going to take me a lot longer than most - I can tell. But! There's nothing in my life that's as awesome as flying. LOVE IT.
Impressed with your response in that porpoise. Kept totally cool. "Full power." Like a boss.
mgmm14 ah thank you! It takes realizing what’s happening and acting to save the situation.. Pull back.. that’s all it takes. Bleed the speed
When I was in training about 20hrs I came in too hot and was basicly flying the plane at 0 AGL.
Without warning cfi yanked the stick back but didnt Take controls, so we were back a dozen feet in the air with a very inappropriate speed & power, and it was MY problem to deal with. I avoided the Porpoise but sunk it flat & hard. My pulse was racing, but I looked over and calmly said "I came in too hot" . CFI said "And now you will never forget whats wrong with landing that fast"
He was right
That was 25 years ago and I still remember it vividly.
What a nice instructor. Back in my flight school there were some very strict and impatient instructors. I just couldn't enjoy my flight training, being stressed and nervous sometimes. Some others were very good just like you. But unfortunately after the solo I had to fly with many different instructors. A patient and friendly instructor is all what it takes to make a student feel relaxed and confident.
Great vid! That's really how it is with low time. 25+ years ago when I started, my instructed just started calling me "Right Rudder" because early on that all he would say to me on a climb out! LOL! I had a real mental block with that for a number of hours when starting then it just clicked. And making radio calls? I'll never forget the first few lessons when the instructor put all the workload on me including the radios on a pretty busy Class D airport. My initial thoughts was "You want me to fly this without crashing AND talk on the radio while doing it?! I was never radio-shy like many pilots, it just seemed so incredibly overwhelming at first....and then one day it just all clicks into place and like now, you think back and reflect at how it was and how far you've come. Those are some of the simplest enjoyments of flying.
Thanks for saying this, I’m currently facing that mental block right now. I can’t wait for it to click!
Professionalism and finesse instruction, my respects to you man.
Thanks man!
Lew- I’m a big fan, you keep your composure and correctly manage the cockpit. A good example is the porpoise, obviously never helps to panic: instead you Assess and solve! I just made a video last week of a nighttime porpoise on a poorly lit runway: please check it out, I would truly be honoured. I especially like how you managed Brandon’s personality, he was overly confident, and I’m not criticizing the young man in anyway. “KNOWING enough to think you're doing it right, but not enough to know you're doing it wrong.” Thank-you sir, happy to see a good man successful!
You’re a great instructor! I’d love to take a lesson with you...
...in a floaty 172.
Randy Carlson we’d spend the lesson in ground effect exclusively
All I’ve flown is a 172 (~30 hrs). #teamfloat
I would def like to have instruction in something else at some point. Perhaps once this virus goes away and I can finish up my PPL first...
@@randc47 Good Luck !!!
Hats off - thanks to you and your students for sharing your learning experiences and mistakes. Pls keep making more of those videos. Living in a lockdown area and being grounded, watching those videos is actually like chair-flying. This helps refresh memory on standard procedures/flow of activities and focus/muscle memory/etc,. And it is so reassuring to see people struggle with the exact same topics as I normally do. All thumbs up!
Does every ATC have the same low deep bass voice? It’s seriously like they’re trained to sound like that or something
if you mean trained to sound like a badass then yes that's exactly it
True. Even the girls.
@@Skyprince27 Could have something to do with so many pilots having high tone hearing loss issues, high pitched voices are harder to understand on radio and can require multiple attempts to get the message across.
Merrill field has a Controller who has a ridiculously low voice, you can barely understand him. It sounds like a goddamn voice changer
Imagine if the movie trailer guy was working in air traffic control
I really admire your way of instructing. I strive to be an instructor like you eventually. One thing to help never porpoise is once you’re in the flare, only keep pulling back gently, resist any urge to push forward at all. Keep pulling the yoke eventually to all the way back until you’re stopped.
THANK YOU @lewdix . I have 20 hours PPL but was struggling in the circuit. I got a new instructor, he gave great advice, my approaches got pretty good. I spent an afternoon flying the circuit with him pattering. I made 12 landings. Two needed his intervention to rescue! A few were balloon / flat /more of an arrival, then..... two good ones. Still I was worried about the ones he had to save. This vid made me put them in perspective. Brilliant, thanks again.
That’s great to hear! I’m glad you were able to worth through it and the video helped. Fantastic!
Appreciate these videos - exactly what an aspiring PPL needs during these times!
One of my student landings was nose wheel first, the instructor wasn't paying attention and we had to get the nose gear repaired.
I love you exposing the reality of “production value” with the fake shots getting into the airplane. I struggle with this. Good job critiquing the over controlling because I was yelling at the screen, LOL, it’s those f-ing Cessnas!
hahaha I cringe watching videos that have fake production shots.. Like, you have to get back out the plane mate come on... lol We all do it though!
Great video for every new student to watch to know what to expect and what struggles they may have. 👍🏼
Thanks man! You went up with my friend Adam in his commander! Cool video!
LewDix Aviation had a lot of fun! Adam is a great guy. It was one of those rare occasions where the company may have been as fun as the airplane! 🙊😂
That was some lovely instruction there sir, really nicely done.
Cheers General
Nice comment from the tower, "good day, good work!" That says it all. Cheers!
Love your patience with the student. The way you stay calm has a calming influence on the student. Wonderful to watch.
What I like most about these vids is you and the student are having fun, not the all to common pissed off frustration session. Flying should be fun. Also you show the progression from beginner technique to good technique, which I can related to as I've done the bad landings and wild over-controlled approaches. I could tell how all these would end before they happened. Watching a CFI landing video doesn't do much since we don't start with perfect landings, we do s***y ones we can relate to here then learn to correct, which these vids clearly show. Great job!
Porpoise landing...as long as you learn from it, how to recover from it and fix it, they will get better. I had a problem with porpoise landings after coming back from 25 years as a rusty pilot. I wasn't transitioning my eyes down the runway. I wish my CFI would have mentioned it to me, but I figured it out on my own going back to the books and online training. Don't know how you CFI's maintain calm when student pilots start doing crazy things. ;)
haha It's about knowing how far you can let things go before jumping in and assisting.. We all have bad landings, no matter what stage of your career you are!
I love your instructing style. You keep your cool, keep the students head up, tell them what they need to do differently without diminishing their confidence. I know from my experience I’m usually 100 times harder on myself than my instructor is anyway, he has a similar style as you do with your students - to keep me from focusing on what I messed up, instead focus on the parts I got right and add in what to do differently.
Brandon - Thanks for sharing this. We've all been there. I watched an F-16 pilot bounce a 172 just like that. It happens. Keep at it, you'll have a fine flying career.
"I don't know if I'm nervous, or it's just that I'm SO focused", I'm using that line if I ever get erectile dysfunction.
4:27 - "A little gusty there right at the end..." That was me as well -- Pilot induced turbulence.
Overall, definite improvement during flight. Awesome CFI.
I would routinely hear - "Well, we walked away from that one..."
I love your videos. As a former instructor I miss being in a plane teaching , and having that satisfaction when your student understands and is able to fly solo. Keep up the amazing job.
David Kerry thanks Dave!
Finally a video we CAN use for training porpoises:) For such low hours and flying a plane with the wings in the wrong place, Brandon did great!
Haha “wings in the wrong place”... You talk a lot of sh*te Rog but that’s the sanest thing you’ve ever said!
Wings in the wrong place!😂😂😂🛩️
Low wing for the win!
Matthew Miller You say that in the sunshine. But if there are any raindrops, then the High wing wins.
I applaud you for this video and thank you to the student for not minding us to see the errors you make at the beginning when still learning.
Last time and only time I landed 07 was a VFR from waycross ga, 1969 and flew into IMC and got a special vfr clearance and kept it high until airport in sight. Quarter mile out. Killed the power full flaps and brought it in. Controller came back with a nice job . Just got my license two days earlier and started at KFRG and final was KVRB piper plant. Ferried a c-150 for flight school. What a flight and experience. Just got back in 172 and found this video very refreshing and informative. Signed off in 2 hours. BFR approved after being out of cockpit for 22 years’ keep the videos coming. Thanks
The perfect instructor. Fabulous attitude toward student, patient, very informative and encouraging along with expert practical demonstrations.
Thank you!
Very calm and relaxed instructor, giving great feedback. Excellent!
I kinda lost it when he removed the flaps on the go-around. I don't think I'd be cut out for a CFI career. Loved the video, though.
Grate teaching! Am a professional pilot and i can say that that instructor knows how to give confidence, never to over confidence, just let you trust in what are you doing and why. Happy flights!
Not only are they the most difficult part, they are also the only part that isn't optional.
Welp, radio comms isn't necessarily optional...And taking off....And flying well enough to not kill ones self. But ya.
@@DJSbros taking off is optional every time but once you are up....
@@DJSbros No one's forcing you to take off..... unless they've got a 6 shooter to your head. "Get this 172 in the air, seeeeeee..."
Great instruction. Nerves of steel, teaching safety, and helping your student build confidence.
REALLY great, instructional video, man! I like your style a lot, & Brandon did a GREAT job for 8 hours!
Private Pilot, I could spend hours doing patterns and not get bored of it. It always feels like there something different about each and every landing which always make them exciting for me.There's quite a few variables to it so don't feel discouraged if it takes you a while to figure out the perfect landing. Just have fun with it, you'll get it eventually.
You hit the nail on the head.. It's always different because there are so many variables. That's why its the most difficult part of what we do. But also the most exciting!
Good job. Congrats! Landing becomes an art that you can master but you need to start by learning what works and what doesn't. Learning is a fantastic experience.
Excellent instructor. Really like this guys style. Choosing the right instructor is a very important consideration for new pilots.
I love it how you are so calm... Even on the bounce...
Thanks man. No need to go mental when things aren’t going how they should. Just deal with it and move on
these videos make me confident to start my Private pilot License next year when i turn 16. Great Videos! they always make me smile :D
Love the way he explains and handles the teaching! great flight trainer, kudos to him!
Thanks man!
Your videos are So very helpful !!! Thank you , you offer this for free. Shows you genuinely care
Thanks for watching!
OMG. This reminds me of my training back in the 90’s Keep at it, you’ll be great!
Great job mate! Im learning so much from you through these videos on how to become a good instructor! Calm, cool and collective!
Nimba Pilot glad you’re finding some value in the videos!
Stunish all the "mini lakes" includid that one right in middle the city, one of the things I enjoy a lot from aviation videos are the landscape!
Great video.
Once again, fantastic instruction, and absolute nothing but encouragement. Fantastic.
Thanks man!
Man, i like this instructor a lot. :-) This is the kind of instructor i have now. Very laid back and understanding. I usually choose to fly with older instructors only cause hey have way more experience and hours but some of the younger instructors are cool to fly with as well. Funny, when i first started landings, i was doing the exact same thing with over correcting with the ailerons. But once my instructor informed me to ease back on the over correcting and just let the plane fly, it was much easier. Great job Brandon. :-)
The two best things I remember learning during my early days of flight training was: use the rudder to maintain centerline, and don’t over control the airplane.
Im so frustrated I cant land properly but with your comment I think Im over controlling it 😟
Wow, so satisfying when he got that beautiful landing! Great instruction!! Going to model his cool in my CFI training!
I found these videos, both hilarious and very informative. What a great way of teaching!
This maKes me happy, an instructor that has passion,what a great teacher.
Thank you!
You have a very calm and clear teaching approach. Great video!
Thank you!
Love the vids mate, currently doing CPL training here in Oz on the PA28. Awesome picking up all these little tips but most of all to keep flying fun 👍
So I’m going for my cfi right now, and my first few landings were UGLY. Just keep getting at it and relax in the ground effect. You got it 👌
Great advice, and good flying & RT for a newbie 👏. What an amazing place to learn to fly , loving the outside wing camera view👍. So much support for GA Stateside that is sadly missing in the UK 😢
Thanks for sharing, I'm only 6 hrs into my private and my landings are far less than smooth and perfect. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one
Great instructing!! Great looking landings too. As a backseat pilot the only thing I would say is you HAVE to stop over controlling the plane at the end. I made the same mistake when I first started training... remember, the plane wants to fly. Let it fly. Smaller corrections, smoother flight, easier training. Other than that fantastic flying for such low flight time! Keep it up!!
"Let it fly" is probably a good starting point for some practice where he trims and takes hands off. Straight & level or turning or climbing, it works.
Great video guys. Very informative. Thanks
in my youth, i started flying lessons on Austers, and the club tiger moth , and my instructor said that my landings were exceptional in that he had never seen landings like them (actually he called them arrivals)
After my first solo, I went out a couple days later to fly solo again. I proceeded to porpoise the airplane on the first lap around the pattern. My instructor never covered the topic of porpoising. If I had not watched this video the night before the flight, I probably would have had a prop strike. As soon as it happened, I went full power, slowly retracted the flaps, and went around. I was scared and lacking confidence, but the next approach I got it down safely and continued my pattern practice. I'm very thankful I saw this video.
I’m thankful you saw it too. My videos serve as entertainment but they are also here to help. I’m glad you had a positive outcome!
Dude, what a great instructor.
I want you as my instructor. Not only are you good, you have the proper accent!
Like these videos! Such an awesome down to earth instructor. Great student with only 8 hours
Great instruction LewDix!
DENNIS CAHILL thank you sir!
Thank you for incredible videos .Not only its always comedy but an incredible you are a great instructor .I am a music teacher and feels great to pass on the experience you have.Good Luck sir.”Welcome TO THE SKY” !!!!!!!!!!
Very educational! Thanks
My instructor always said “Don’t get squirrelly on me now” referring to over controlling. 12 hours in and even while flying solo that’s what I hear in my head on short final.
This person is more than a CFI, he is a trainer, educator and coach. Too many CFIs just want to sit there and log hours so they can apply to an airline. Wish I had this gentleman as an instructor when I was learning.
Thank you so much for those kind words!
Excellent vid, can’t wait to get back up there, only 10hrs to go
woohoo! new video! Love your content, keep up the great work!
KaptenPanna thank you!
Nice job on the landings!! Great video of student pilot training
CFI amazing porpoise recovery. So calm!
Thank you.. No point making the situation worse by panicking!
Nice relaxed and positive instructing in the air and good review on the ground. Great video as always! 👌 🙂 🇬🇧 Tim
Great instruction mate, hope you're staying healthy!
You're such a cool instructor. Calm, clear and with a good sense of humor. Wish I could do my PPL with you - I unfortunately live some 5'000 miles away :(
Ah thanks mate. Appreciate that!
Your thumbnail game is really improving man, awesome video as always!
I'm not first, I'm not last, but you know I clicked f***ing fast ❤️
JS FREE it rhymes lol! Thanks mate!
practice makes perfect. good job dude
As someone who's probably going to transition into flight instruction soon I love videos like this! Wonderful for capturing what student pilots often do when learning how to land, and modeling how a CFI can/should react to those cues. Something potentially to add to my tool belt: put my hand over the flap switch during an awkward go-around so that a student doesn't hit the flaps when it may be dangerous. I would just add that yoke over-control is often the result of someone holding it with a "death grip," and that it's best to hold it with the bottom three fingers chiefly, specifically in an open grip during the flare, and with a light touch - rather than a closed-fist tight grip. That gives you the light, nuanced, touch this requires, you can easily sense how the air is interacting with the surfaces, and you can pull back slowly to make the transition smoother and dissipate that excess energy like an elevator getting ready to stop at a floor. And if you need to lower the nose a bit to control for excessive climb/floating, it's easier to relax back pressure and maintain that nose-up attitude, whereas the closed grip approach often forces the nose down too far and too rapidly because people can push with their palm. Another way of looking at the grip is if you've used fitness two-bar hand/wrist grip strengtheners . Notice that your grip is open when holding one of these. If you imagine that the part that your fingers are wrapped around is the yoke, that's exactly how you should be holding it in the air. And when it's time to squeeze for back pressure, keep your grip open and just contract your fingers and keep your wrist/palm stationary. That will give you the slow, smooth, dissipation of energy you need to raise the nose and slow down at a smooth and steady pace, flying the airplane to the ground rather than just dropping it in.
Adjua Adama another technique to help avoid the “death grip” is to put a pencil under the index an pinkie fingers and over the two inner ones. When they start to squeeze the get immediate feedback from the pressure on their hand. Reminds them to relax.
È bello vedere come insegni con passione e pazienza. Bravo.
Massimiliano Chiani ah grazie grazie!
Great instructor!
Just looking a them.. Makes me speechless and i am already a fan 🙋♀️ 🛬 👏
You are a calm instructor my instructor would’ve yelled into the mic lol
This cadet is really lucky to have that FI. Such patience and insights also liked his style too
Great instruction! I remember my first few landings. Then the initial crosswind landings. I'm sure once or twice my CFI wanted to slap me lol
Those were some busy hands on landing !