What also kinda annoys me is when someone says “if you loose connection, send the character back to me”, like I get it if the character was originally free and currently doesn’t have any extra art/value, but if it was an oc that I traded/payed for then why should I send them back to the original owner for free if I could instead put the oc up for offers and trade with someone else to get something for the time/money I put into the character? But dude all of this stuff really makes you sound chronically online it’s so funny 😭
I have personally asked a few people to let me know if they lose connection but here's the thing, if they no longer want the character. Imma pay to get it back. Not like ask for it back for free lmao. I think it's ridiculous to expect you can get an oc back for free whenever like the new owner put their own art, commissioned art into it. YAAA I think it's fine to ask people to contact you first before resale but if you intend on getting the character back. You should be prepared to PAY for it.
People who getting so mad about redesigns are so confusing to me. I tried having a discussion with a very popular Toyhouse designer about redesigns and they were strongly against almost any redesigns, and were very strong about how changing a characters gender or body for example makes you a “morally evil” person and continued to bash me and imply I was racist and homohobic because I said people should be able to change anything about a character if it’s theirs, such as a characters sexuality. I genuinely don’t understand why people get so mad about things like this 🤷♀️
there are people out there who consider changing things like gender or body type or even something like sexuality to be redesigns?!? good god i do that all the time lol. i’m buying the base design not whatever lore the previous person had for them. i know lots of people who even prefer you change previous bio info
i make a lot of freebies and adopts to give out in discords and i absolutely LOVE seeing the redesigns that people come up with when they redesign my guys. it always made no sense to me (unless it was like a personal character that you were forced to sell or other circumstances like that) why people were so hurt/offended over redesigning adopts/freebies
Had someone get really really pissy at me after I redesigned a character I bought for them, made sure they are recognizable. Well appearantly not recognizable enough and they even asked me if I wanted to just give the character back instead? Excuse me, I paid for this character?
@@RandomNoob12346 I had it for a year at that point and only made some changes so it's easier for me to draw Well now I gave that character to my boyfriend and made a complete new one
What always annoys me is vague tos terms, specifically the "don't associate my designs with homophobia, racism, discrimination, etc" because I'm always unsure if that means to not make hate art with the character or simply don't associate them with those topics. I'm nonbinary and pansexual so a few of my characters deal with homophobia or transphobia, for my purposes I wish they were more exact without needing to ask for clarification. Also annoying when the tos constantly changes especially if its clear the artist is simply making exceptions for their friends, one of the artists I bought a design from updated their tos like 5 times in a short amount of time clearly because their friend wanted to do something against it. Your tos is your boundaries for your designs, don't let people break your boundaries because they're your friends especially if that boundary being broken was a blacklistable offense before. They won't explode or anything if they aren't allowed to draw certain kinds of art of that one character
i think you can always safely assume that people mean "Dont put me and my creations as a pro-whatever--bad-thing" rather than "no you cant give them a tragic backstory"
@@NeverEverTMyou would think but I've been in the character trading scene for about 6 years and some people are simply like that, there are people who have and will make a fuss if you give an oc a tragic backstory. Like I do generally assume they don't mean that but I've seen people genuinely get upset at the darker backstories people give their designs even if it is clear they don't condone it. Some people are so scared of being called a bad person or abuse condoners that they get SUPER protective of what they put out. Which is why vague wording can be annoying, It would be easier in my opinion to simply put "Do not use my designs to promote hate speech" or "please don't make my designs do bad things and condone their actions" over "do not associate my designs with these things". I just find it nice when a tos is specific and clear, that way there is no grey area and I can know if the person is someone I'd rather not do business with for that tos
@silverfang405 see I like what you're saying here because I think it boils down to the fact that everyone's morals are different and it doesn't make sense to take someone's property back because their morals don't align with yours. Are there some things that might be universally/arguably bad? Yeah, but some things have more of a gray area or be super controversial(inner lgbtq discourse, pro/anti ship, etc) That's why i wouldn't want someone to be able to take a design away on the condition that I was "racist, homophobic, etc." Bc I'm not those first two but wtf does etc entail?? I don't know what your opinions are. If you're not going to make a full list then it's weird to say that. It can be misused even with the best intentions
I prefer one that said in the tos that they as a designer didn’t condone the actions taken by anyone that ended up with their oc. It’s an understanding that you can’t control what others do and don’t do with characters and you probably shouldn’t try. Doing so often makes people wanna do said things purely out of spite, especially the younger crowds
Watching this while I work on a comm. I agree with your points!! I don't want to do business with any artist who: does revocations, does not permit or polices redesigns, polices how you use their designs (ex: "youre not drawing them enough" "i disagree with the lore you gave them", and who wants to control if your character and their galleries are visible. Once it's out of your hands, it is not yours to dictate usage of. I stopped using toyhouse a long time ago because of concerns I have with the site's longevity due to only having one unreliable mod, and made all of my characters private as a result (I downloaded their files to my pc). Knowing that there are people out there who would take issue with my characters being hidden is so weird
I've seen a few people say that they would only revoke if the artist went silent and didn't have other socials, left the character in a trade/sale folder for a long time, or deleted/hid the character. (not singling anyone out who said this though, it's an opinion I've seen elsewhere before!) My argument against this is the following. -Its entirely possible they lost internet access -Social media is not for everyone, and if they left it doesn't mean their characters are up for grabs. They could still be using them offline. -If they left them in a trade or sale folder, it's still their character to decide to trade or sell, even if they're inactive for a long time. -In the worst case scenario, a person can pass away. I remember part of the controversy about DA making your art opted into their ai by default was that deceased artists couldn't opt out. In much the same way, a deceased person can't tell you not to reupload their character because you assumed they weren't using them. Ultimately, once a character leaves your hands, the owner can use them... or not! and that is their choice as it is now one of their belongings. If you want to control aspects of a design like these that feel out of your reach, you probably shouldnt be trading or selling them. There's no shame in keeping a lot of designs you're attached to!
I am of the belief that once you give something away you no longer have any rights to control what happens to it and that extends to characters. I make it very clear in my "TOS" that there is nothing I can do to take a character away from you and you are free to do with it as you please. The most I ask for it for the character to not be used for spreading bigotry but even then the most I'll do is resign to not sell directly to the person again. I don't understand why people sell characters or designs if they can't fully let them go...At this rate it gets to the point where it feels like you're just renting a design that can suddenly be pulled away from you at any time. it's baffling to me that it's been normalized to the extent it has.
(Using royal "you" here) Like, the moment money becomes involved, you have to start looking at things from a professional stance. Just like if I'm on the clock at my retail job, and there's a customer I don't like, I have to do the bare minimum of my job servicing them politely, the same logic applies here. Your job is this scenario is selling designs. Once you sell a design, it's not yours anymore (unless your ToS specifically states joint ownership kind of things, which imo would deter a LOT of people and get messy fast). You don't get to just take the design back just because you don't like someone, and even in the sparse instances where someone is using the character in actual extremely scummy ways, the best thing you can do from there is cut your ties completely and block the person. "But I don't want people doing this, that, or the other thing (to the design)," sorry but once you sell a design, it's not yours anymore! That's the point! If you're not ready for that reality, I don't think you're ready to be providing designs as a service, period.
i'm not joking when i say i don't have a TOS, you just own the character anf thier lore now, have fun with them edit: i make lore with my adopts to give them more value
dude i LOVE when people redesign my character designs i've sold tbh, it's so neat to me to see how the design ends up changing, even if the person ends up never drawing them again afterwards. this video is so weirdly well timed for me, i've not really drawn anything in like over a year now and i'm thinking about doing it again via selling character designs like i used to do years ago. cooking up a TOS seemed daunting at first, but then this vid showed up and it's actually... kinda easy for me to conceptualize now lmfaooo
I once had a person in their tos not allow me to trade their designs for free or like a raffle, they later ended up stealing my own designs but that another story…
And tos are why I just make my own characters. One person I used to buy from changed they’re tos to be a LOT more strict and now she can’t sell her characters anymore
My only tos rule is really let me know if you wanna make money of a design I made because I wanna buy some march! As long as you’re making new art, if I’m making art that you wanna sell I’ll just add on a little extra fee. Like 20$ onto the original cost. The only oath rule I have about oc swaps or buys is that the character isn’t upsold after getting it from me. But even then I’m not made if you forget something like that.
This is a really interesting video! I was in the adoptable community a long time ago, and my TOS were pretty simple back them I think. However, I did remember some drama over abusive TOS like 'if you want to get rid of the character then give it back to me instead of reselling it' (which meant that you lost the character AND your money) or 'if I do not like what you do with the character or you do not use it then I will revoke it', which I thought was quite wild. I think I only revoked a character once in my life. Back when G+ was still alive (gosh, I feel old) I was in a community where we made ocs, and one day I made free redesigns, with the only rule being that, as they were free, they could not be resold. I made four or five and I was really proud of them! And my heart broke when less than a week later, one of the people I made a redesign for, decided to sell it, with no art added or anything, they just tried to sold the redesign that I gave them for free. I ended up informing them that I was going to revoke the redesign, that they could keep the old design, as stated by the one and only rule that was written on my post, it could not be resold. Sadly I did not do anything with that character. Maybe I should use them someday, maybe I should just look at the design sometimes and that is all. I found it difficult to use them or gift them bearing in mind that they still had the same theme and some of the characteristics of the original design. I have to say though, I did not know that some people count as 'redesign' to add clothes to a character!! Or accessories!! It had never crossed my mind something, I always took redesigns as changing markings, or colours until they do not look like the original at all (which often naturally happens as you draw one character, I have to admit). I suppose I can relate to seeing one design I'm very proud of being changed so much as being something disheartening, but at least they get loved that way, which I think is what counts! Great video btw! I really like the points you made and your research, and your drawing as well!! I love how colourful it is :33 hope you have a great day!
I love toyhouse, but some people on there are truly unhinged with their tos. I once saw someone who in their tos said "If you say I can't do something with the design on your tos, by accepting mine you agree that is now null and will not apply to me during my ownership." I was a silly goose and didn't look at their tos before I traded them one of my designs for some of theirs (that's 100% on me) but luckily this person traded the design I gave them off and doesn't own them anymore which is...genuinely a huge relief. I don't know if their "tos" would even hold up if any sort of conflict happened, but it's so strange to me to basically have a clause saying you don't have to follow ANY rules a designer sets. And what about designs obtained secondhand where the designer DIDN'T directly trade to them and agree to those terms???
oooh i love these takes!! especially the redesign portion. every character i've bought i've ended up usually altering the color palette to have more saturation / contrast and adding outfits. if that is against an artist's t.o.s i just don't buy it, though. "character flippers" also pmo. i don't view it as wrong if time passed, because in that case, maybe people would be willing to pay more for x artist's design due to more people discovering the artist / wanting those artist's designs. However, i have also seen it where people (especially for pop designers) would buy a design and resell it for higher within a week DX however i sorta view the right mode of action if this does happen is to just block them from buying / refuse to sell to them. yeah they maybe gained one or two flips, but eh. oh well.
As far as revoking goes, Walmart can't come take a blender back if I use it for crafts instead of food. To demand a different precedent sets a standard I do not want to live by. And I have sold designs and commissions Artists tend to have a serious misunderstanding of one thing: You lose FULL ownership of anything you share with the world. Anyone can draw it and do ANYTHING they want to. Owning it or not. If you want something kept personal, you gotta KEEP it personal.
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Watching this video through made me remember its been a good moment since I've updated my Tos on my Toyhouse, so I gave it a good update that it... *desperately* needed as I realized there were details I didn't add and stuff I no longer agreed with xD At the end when you said, "I think you should repeatedly ask yourself as you handwrite your terms of service, is this something I should be saying about someone else's property?" Really made me think about my old Tos There was nothing crazy in it mind you, I'm not a strict person about the characters I make, but it made me fully adjust what I had put down for "Character Recognizability" I had it as a plain "Redesign just make them recognizable" which had no description of *how* recognizable, cause thats what most of my buds had for theirs lol As I updated everything else, I had fully changed that one completely, as I asked "Would I actually care if somebody made them look wildly different?" Literally tested it with a pastel character by making a copy and making them a neon demon with sharp claws and spikes The answer? Naw. I really don't. I think it would actually be hilarious if someone neon'd the crud outta one of my softer designs😂 Awesome video! Really helpful when thinking about the bigger picture. You have an awesome day/night brah🎉
Had someone comment on a design that I owned, that they made, saying I had to ask their permission to add extras features onto a character... I had given the character wings btw, in the exact same colours and with no changes to the base design. So I said I'm not doing that, obvs, and they then proceeded to fight me and argue with me that it's against their tos. What where these tos? A work in progress apparently cause they hadn't even been written yet... but somehow I was supposed to know and follow them anyways, yeah I don't think so. Honestly it boils my piss when people try and add bullshit rules like revokes, redesigns and tradebacks onto designs *I MADE*, like f off no?? Thats not only against my tos, cause I hate those rules and I think it's stupid, but its also just so possessive? If you can't handle the mere idea that someone just might draw a character the way they want or, heaven forbid, add a minor detail then you shouldn't be selling/trading, end of. And if you think that's stupid then I want you to take a second, breathe, and think about it this way: Imagine you buy a house (crazy in this economy ik but stick with me) and you buy it in its entirety, paid full price blah blah blah, then one day, out of nowhere, the old owners come banging on your door and throwing a fit cause they saw through your window that you changed the wallpaper they put up. It's weird right? And yes I'm aware houses and pixels on a screen aren't the same but I like to think we can all use our thinking caps and think about hyperboles and subjectivity and etc etc lol /lh
Great video, I agree with your points. The one that always confused me the most was revoking a character because it was redesigned too heavily. I could never tell if they want to revoke the original design, or the character itself. Cause if a character is redesigned to the point of warranting a revoke, then the character itself is actually immune to BEING revoked because it's, in the eyes of the designer, a different character. So like, what would revoking an old design do? Its like revoking a design for not being used enough, but worse because there's actual emotional attachment to the original. I dont think a designer should ever be able to revoke a character under any circumstance. Even if the owner of the character is foul. At most they should be able say "I don't want to be associated with this design anymore. Make a new toy house page of the character where I am no longer credited." or something like that. Which could still be a pretty big blow if the character has 3k drawings, but i would support the designer in that case, where i wouldn't support them if they simply said "mine now" Speaking of which, I'm impressed at your character with 3 thousand drawings. My favorite oc is five years old, and i was proud to reach 200. I have a long way to go! I loove ocs with massive amounts of art, i always enjoy looking at them. I do have one note about your video, though. I am someone who watched this while drawing. But you didn't read the topic cards out loud, so when you were discussing people's opinions on revoking designs, I had no context as to what you were talking about or what everyone voted 'no' to, because I wasn't looking at the screen to see it. So it would be nice if you could restructure the beginning sentences in future videos to include the topic specifically. Such as "Revoking designs is one of the most controversial things in the character design scene as of recently", or reading out the topic title in the beginning, just to sort of keep the listeners on the same page as the watchers. It felt particularly jarring considering you specifically mentioned people who don't watch the screen during your sponsorship read. but all in all, great video. I enjoyed your points, and it was well structured. I think you did a good job keeping it within topic without getting dull.
Despite being an artist, I'm not really involved in the "art community" so I wasn't really sure what this video was gonna be but...yeah I agree with every point.
i love these videos when you talk about character trading and selling. I'm not at all familiar with the customs so learning about it through these is really helpful !! 💙
Y’know I wonder if you can make a vid dissecting closed species and off branders. Or maybe dissecting adoptables. Idk random ideas since I’ve heard many sides to all three of these.
You bring up a lot of good points. I am personally far too attached to my character whcih is why they are all forever homed. However I had a situation where I made a design meant to be a dopt, and then told another friend who was also selling adopts that I liked it so much that I wanted to keep it. And they told me it was stupid for doing that. I kept them anyway. best decission ive made.
crying because just yesterday some of my friends gave you their tos, idk if you know but the sashley/ knite/ joycawn design market is crazy for reselling for obnoxious amounts of money and tradeback etc some people even resold ocs they got from trades and gifts rip
If I own a design by another artist, I'll absolutely follow their TOS, but when it comes to my designs... as long as I get credit for the original design, I don't care what happens to it lmfao. Resell something I gave you for free for like $100, IDGAF. I've actually had someone redesign a design to be absolutely unrecognizable and all it made me was confused over why they bought the original design -- but I still got paid, so again, don't really care :P I think a wild aspect to a lot of modern TOS is restrictions on how you can draw the character? I 110% get not wanting something to be involved w/ bigoted BS etc or whatever but its not like those people will obey a TOS anyways & plus, like you said, I think restricting the way someone uses a design they own is "something you shouldn't say about someone else's property". Anyways, lovely video and great topic pick!
What I did to make sure my terms of service were covering all my bases is find someone with one they allow people to copy off of and one by one each point copy and paste them and reword how I see fit! in my opinion if I sell an adopt I'll specify any commissioned/full made art piece exists for the character that the price can go up! I actually would prefer all my prices to stay at the value I sell them for and not less, not cause blah blah blah but I'd much rather people not lose their moneys worth! Ontop of that if someone COMPLETELY remakes their adopt and I like the old design more maybe I could reach out and pay half the price for the old design back and they keep their new design and I could re-sell or just keep! ^^
one thing i will say about design revoking, is i added it to my TOS specifically after i dealt with a situation w/coming to terms with having been abused by my groomers. i had made so much art and so many characters for them during the time when i was a kid/teenager and when i became and adult and realized just how much of my abuse was basically immortalized and attached to those really gross couple of people, i was mortified and basically Not So Gently demanded that all my work be removed from their pages entirely. it brought me a lot of peace of mind and since then i've been a lot stricter about who i sell to and pretty much have low patience for people with values similar to the ones my groomers had (like people who speak inappropriately to/about minors (even fictional), drawing really deplorable nsfw, etc). i try to do ""background checks"" before i sell an adoptable as best as i can, but i do have it in my TOS that i may request character/design termination if it's found out that my work is being attached to disgusting people / actions / art. my groomers used art and OCs to prey on me, and the thought of someone potentially doing that with something *i* made just really bothers me. maybe it's not that deep, idk. i also go about it differently though, because i don't ask for a design to be returned to me, i ask for complete deletion. i've thankfully never had to actually have a discussion with someone about deletion (again i try to just be careful who i sell to in the first place) but in my mind, the character trading scene is pretty big right now in the art community and if someone doesnt like my TOS... for lack of a more polite way to put it, they can kick rocks and go find a different artist to buy from. my work is just so personal to me that imo if someone didn't read my TOS and was surprised by any enforcement actions i took, that's on them. very long winded and a bit personal but i just wanted to share my perspective on character revoking
2 b clear my other TOS regarding adoptables is super tame, i dont care about redesigns or anything else, it's ONLY really specific , agreed upon 'morally bad' things that im just like. zero tolerance about. i love making designs and selling them and seeing how other people take something ive created and make it their own. i just want to keep my art in spaces and with people who arent being like. nasty. idk. it's pretty much the only thing with my TOS that i actively care about and defend. like do whatever w/the design u bought from me just dont be a creep idgaf . i think having it on my TOS brings me peace of mind / deters those kinds of people from buying from me anyways
Character revoking is not ever going to work. They probably just hid the art and will bring it back in a few months. My genuine recollection is to block and avoid them. It’s better for your health then to stalk their profiles and be thinking about them to the point of stress. I say this with a genuine want to help to be clear. It’s not healthy to fallow people like that and focus on them.
@@trashman11 i see where you are coming from, but in my opinion if you are not going to follow an artists TOS then you shouldnt.. be buying from that artist, no one is making you
I think its crazy that people think they can control what someone does with a character they have handed over to someone else, free or not. I hope these people never make a popular series with their ocs because they won't be able to handle what fandoms do to the characters. On the other hand, simply don't buy/do business with someone who has policies you find ridiculous. Just make a design inspired (and i do mean INSPIRED, NOT STOLEN!) by that design and do what you like with it, if you really must have it.
20:11 - 20:43 honestly kind of why i quit using toyhouse (and kind of oc trading in general), it just felt like it was all a transaction with no actual life behind it and not rlly a hobby anymore ;w;
What are your thoughts on people redesigning custom-made designs for them? I make a lot of customs and I’ve found that they’ve been redesigned and then sold because the new owner couldn’t connect with them (the new design usually) anymore. It has gotten to a point where I have lost motivation to continue making customs. It pisses me off a little bit, idk.
I've had this exact thing happen to me! Honestly, I don't mind much. I try to see it from their perspective; they had a design custom made, meaning they had no idea what it would look like before they would recieve it. They didn't connect with it right away, but they wanted to at least try to, so they tweaked the design somewhat to see if they could connect that way. They still didn't, but now they've invested time into the design, so they resell it to someone else who might like it better. It's up to the person who buys it which design they like better, so if they do like the redesign, then they can use that, or they can keep the original! I get how it could be upsetting though, but I do think they have good intentions and just couldn't connect
Definitely going to review the tos I made for comms & character trading that I haven't even used bc I wanna make sure people understand, bc I did make a lot of rules to show boundaries (including stuff that doesnt apply to what I sell) but I wanna make sure said enforcements dont sound unreasonable to a normal person (iirc I basically said I'd blacklist/not sell to them again, and make a beware, but the product if received is still legally theirs, and if not received they get a refund) People should make sure their ToS represents what they want, but the retaliation should not scare regular people away, especially if its bc of unclear consequences, or worse, unclear rules
Something I think is an important distinction that you didn't make: I believe there's a difference between gift art and traded art. A person makes gift art because they like the character or the person who owns said character; they do it of their own free will, for their own enjoyment. An art trade on the other hand, involves both parties agreeing to put in roughly equal amounts of effort, and choosing which of their own characters the other party will draw. Time is money, and if commissioned art and personal art adds value, then traded art should add value too, because you paid for that art by spending time making art for your trade partner yourself. Gift art is different because it was received for free, traded art is not free.
Theres this designer that I looked up to that blocked me for declining a trade and put me on their blacklist so no longer having rose tinted glasses, there's a lot of weird stuff on there, here's some of it "Traded character (Art, Trade, Ac) Cannot be sold unless you've added two or more artworks [You will be confronted if you will sale a traded OC with no additional art] Can be traded, can be gifted or sent back. Freebie character (Free, Raffle, WTA) Can NEVER be sold regardless of how much art was added. Cannot be traded unless you've added two or more artworks. Can be gifted or sent back. Freebies have a 2 month cooldown from the date received => You are not allowed to trade it (in the case you added art) before this cooldown ends. You're still allowed to regift it anytime tho! TOS violation will lead to my BlackList" "Results in Blacklisting:.. ... 3. Bailing on purchase result in a block, don't offer to just say "I don't want it anymore" or "I can't do it" or the worst one "I decided it's not worth it"." (what I broke) Also there's a "Do not trade or sell to anyone on my blacklist" and then they don't specify everyone on their blacklist. Anyways I may or may not have gotten somebody to trade me one of their designs for a few artworks and now she's one of my fav ocs
im like in the middle of the video.. and the one thing about "revoking" a design, as a person who makes characters and adoptables, honsetly i actually hate the whole "revoking" thing.. Especially if the rules are SUPER strict.. the only reason for ME doing that, is if the person deletes the design on toyhouse (cause i usually wanna see what their doing with the character, and who owns it) ,never used it and never communicated with me with if they were actually gonna use the design or not. I have only had to revoke one design cause of this, i believe But this video kinda makes me rethink that slightly.. (I might maybe change that rule..) Like you can use my designs HOWEVER u want.... You can redesign, resell etc etc theres nothing to exactly to follow.. .. (Theres also "dont give blacklisted people this"... ) So thru out the video i honestly agree with everything.. Like i wouldnt go against everything u think. (Im so sorry if my typing is bad)
your rules sound really fair! me personally as sad as it would be if someone deleted the whole page i usually don't do anything about it b/c i have no proof whether or not they're using it elsewhere and i don't want to resell it again or something in case that person genuinely does still want that oc and simply doesn't like toyhouse or something. but i do think that's kind of up to the designer. i'm a multiplatform artist so my designs aren't confined to toyhouse anyway, but i would imagine if you only sell and post on toyhouse it wouldn't be the same
In my opinion, as someone who hid their characters and moved off site (and still loves and uses each and every one of them, just on my hard drive) I would be REALLY upset if someone reuploaded my beloved character because I didnt individually alert them to me hiding my ocs. IMO, don't do this. It's wrong to assume that a character is unloved just because it's deleted from one website. Ask if you have to, because maybe theyll respond and tell you about how they're using the character somewhere else!! and even if you never get a reply, you shouldn't assume it's unloved. I'm glad to hear you're open minded about changing revocation rules, and I hope my perspective helps make a case for why it's not a good idea
@@8MW_ @qwizz honsetly i can agree with the both of you about this.. i might just honsetly say like (ill only revoke w/ perms) or just ask to put a character offsite with comminution with me (so i still know where the character is etc) just so its more fair and not like im stealing away something they got from me even if they still enjoyed that character. this does also change my perspective on “horders” or people who “dont rlly touch/use” designs too.. thanks for sharing both ur opinions tho it helped with my perspective alot better! (Again sorry for if my writing has mistakes again...)
i had someone who said theyd be "watching me" to make sure i use the character i bought off them that they literally never used, i blocked them. also, i had a case like 5 years ago where i got this really cool oc for free, and the original designer of the character (also 13 at the time) said they taking it away from me. last year i reached back out to them and we cleared things up, i can confirm ownership again
i completely agree.. your selling the character. (unless otherwise stated…) i think that should mean the buyer has the same rights as they would if they created the character themselves. the only thing that should be credited is the designer. if not your basically buying the rights to colors on a screen.. you’d be better off buying art of an existing oc instead of a design
My personal tos for designs: Design TOS ❀This character cannot be sold for more than purchased, unless extra is added via commissions OR self made art. ❀This character comes with commercial rights (meaning by you can use it for branding, merch and streaming! Credit is nice, but not entirely required for every post) ❀This character cannot be traded to those one SweetDiscordia's blacklist (this will result in a warning, then blacklisting). Character will be revoked[in the sense i will not want to be associated]/voided. ❀ Please do not include my designs in problematic/immoral/hateful content! (Dark/Horror is ok, of course). ❀ Redesigns/design changes are always ok! Go wild, they’re yours now ^^ ❀ Have fun and spoil your new oc!
Breaking my tos will lead to a public blacklisting and honestly, revoking the oc thats been used in immoral content would be gross, since that design is now tainted. I'd personally put a notice on their th and wherever i find it. For my own art? I'll legit get it removed from their profiles, which on th is okay!
ah yes, toyhouse users being weird /lh, not a surprise tbh, first it was the kinsonas that are just stolen characters, now this?? people can't seem to compreehend the fact that once you give away a chat/design, it's no longer theirs :/, it's annoying, expecially when they act entitled about it, and don't even get me started on those TOS', yikes
For me, I just tend to not take characters back unless if they were free and the person didn’t add anything and they give them to me. If someone would break my tos idc I’ll watch out for them a bit [depending on what rule they broke] and just let life go on. Not my character anymore so there isn’t anything I can do. I find it a bit strange with rules how a character can just be taken like at least give them back what they paid you ya know.
funnily I have a very different take on the "Don't redesign characters" than you. Personally if I think Im going to redesign a character enough I won't buy it. Because why WOULD I buy something I'll just redesign? At that point I would just... design my own character. Like on a seller side I wouldn't be pissed if somebody redesigned a character they bought from me (Like whatever, they're your character now. Do what you want) I'd just be confused.
I have an issue with entering multiple free raffles and freebies on impulse. One time I’d done a round of them and the next day remembered to check the artists TOS and such incase I didn’t agree with them and had to pull out. Yeah I’d entered some random cute pastel raffle that was by someone who’s TOS said they wouldn’t sell to people with “fake genders/sexualities” ????????? Pulled out so fast
As someone who does a lot of adopt stuff. I try to keep my tos as simple as I can. Idc what the hell you do with the design you bought as long as you aren’t using it to push an ideology that harms others (zoos, kid likers, etc etc) Redesign it, do whatever, i can’t care because yeah i got money and now you’re enjoying it so it’s a win win for us lol One of my least favorite things about others TOS’s is the whole freebie thing I have one specific person in mind but they have a tos that even if you pay for comms on a freebie design you’re not allowed to sell it??? I get if it’s just the character with no added art but they’ll blacklist you for selling a free character that again, has paid art which confuses me so much lmao The character trading scene confuses me, i genuinely don’t get it because another artist I have a few designs from it’s like their designs are only to be traded around. I never see anybody actually draw or get art of those designs before selling them immediately
I'm selling adopts over 10 years now and yeah I definetly needed to change my TOS unfortunately ...because of that rare cases of people being not nice, though I agree with you on all points too. (I definetly dislike the rule the most - "you can sell them for whatever you want". I was underpricing myself waaay too much in the beginning of my time and sold like an adopt with 20+ artpieces for under 10$ and people are selling them for 100$ now without any added artwork / worth, it's insane q__q). One rule which is also insane for me and did come to my mind immediatly - is not make any siblings / childrens ouf the design, because I do like to have ships and maybe kids in the future.(I do understand you not wanting to somebody "copy" your design - but you also don't need to make twins / indentical designs to make a sibling). I'm definetly here for all the character / toyhouse content on your account! So I'm very glad about this video!
Me personally, my terms of service are very simple. Don't make it 100% unrecognizable (I'm fine with redesigns, I redesign 90% of my chars afterall) (as you said, this like... never happens... though...) and don't make NSFW, because im a minor and check on designs i made sometimes If someone broke these, i wouldn't "revoke" the design -- that feels... weird? -- I'd just blacklist them from buying again.
i hate how th has made oc trading. like i understand if minors dont want nsfw of their designs, like sometimes rules are very understandable! but when people revoke ocs for just, redesigning them?? i dont get it. i understand revoking if a design is given to like an awful person, like a groomer or something (ive done that!) but id never revoke an oc from someone just for disliking them ?? bc thats rlly stupid. u give someone a character, its THEIR CHARACTER NOW???? they OWN THE CHARACTER!!!!
@ Well, there’s subsections of the object show community. It’s not as common in Discord but I have seen it happen. It’s very common in the Scratch OSC. (Talking about SOSC) What I know is that people are usually fine with redesigns and that you *do* lose the rights to your OC once you trade them away. However, you can still ask for permission to use your former OC if you ever need it for whatever reason. Heck, you can even change their name, gender, personality etc. Character trading is just asset trading to us, the limbs and face just help us… I guess give the characters a personal touch.
@Carottleamen the aryist behind the talk shipper has a history of shipping minor x adult characters and drawing fetishy gay content of eddsworld characters, the youtuber im posting this comment on clearly must not know, but ive known and thusly avoided them for a while. I dont like seeing people supporting some who thought adult x minor was ever ok just becauee pretty art styke thats gross
i do generally agree with this video, but i think the ooonly thing that contradicts my view on this is the hard no on design revocation ever. i do agree that terms like "dont change the design too much or its mine again" are dumb but i think an artist wanting to have a failsafe in the cases of say, the buyer being outed as a bigot or a groomer is reasonable yk? purely because i know i personally wouldnt want my art associated with someone like that, even if the clause ends up being used rarely or not at all, itd be good to have.
I talked about this in the video! Yes I get where you're coming from but I don't like artists giving themselves the power to take a design away like that. What about false claims? Those aren't at all uncommon. Does an innocent person deserve to get their property taken from them on the grounds that someone posted a callout? And yes, while in theory it'd be nice to never have your designs fall into the hands of bad people, and I'm not defending those kinds of people by any means, I think the principle doesn't make sense to me. Because why should you get the power to take property away without compensation because the other person's morals don't align with yours? And again, that's not me saying those things are okay. That's me pointing out that this isn't a clear line and therefore sort of unfair imo. Are you going to make a comprehensive list of all the adjectives that buyers can't associate with without getting their design revoked? "Bigot" means different things to different people. A term like "if you're a bad person ill revoke your design" seems so easy to misuse to me. If you sell a character, it's not yours anymore. That's my opinion. We should be doing background checks before selling to people, not after. Especially on shaky proof. Most people with common sense aren't going to assume you're best buds with someone or support all their actions because they own a design by you, either. On every site but toyhouse it's kind of hard to even trace it back to you. Yeah, it sucks when someone you don't like owns and is using your design. But the more logical plan of action imo is to just block them and never sell to them again, like some of the other comments have said.
I can list so many potential situations where this could go wrong, versus that ONE case where it might make sense. Why normalize the concept in that context? - false claims that later get disproven - based on your individual morals (e.g inner lgbtq discourse) and don't necessarily hurt anyone/warrant stealing their property back and reselling again - could put MORE negative attention on you than if you just let them keep the design - the person you resold it to after didn't know about it's past owner, and now THEY are getting associated with the big bad wolf. The only person who profited (twice) in this context is you. Does that sound fair? Once a brand gets attached to a character it does tend to linger. Who's gonna be the one who has to live with that? - personal issues that don't warrant stealing property and reselling it again
@@QwizzI do get where you’re coming from, but I do think a artist can be liable to take back a design if they want to, as long as if it were their TOS, and it would’ve been buyer’s choice to still go through with it.
@Carottleamen did you watch the video? Or the section at 6:00? Yeah artists can put whatever they want in their tos but that doesn't make them immune to critique or invalidate anyone's points on the matter. You can do whatever you want, nobody's saying you can't
@@Qwizz Yes, I did watch the full video-there’s no need to get so hostile just because I replied to your comment. I understand and agree that artists aren’t immune to critique for their TOS, and I wasn’t trying to invalidate anyone’s points. My point was more about respecting agreements that buyers choose to accept when proceeding with a purchase. It’s fair to critique TOS policies, but it’s also fair for an artist to enforce them if they’re transparent about their terms.
Hello, I'm Brazilian and I saw that you put "Troca de caracteres questionável TOS...", but the most correct way to describe what you wanted would be "Os Questionáveis Termos de Serviço de Troca de Personagens..." First, you put "caracteres", and that means like letters in Portuguese (the translator sometimes makes mistakes haha, I was confused, but I soon realized when I translated it into English), and TOS is not 100% clear in Portuguese and it's not that common to hear about it (at least as far as I know in the artistic community), so I put terms of service without the abbreviation, but the abbreviation is "TDS" if you want to abbreviate it. In my opinion, I would give this another title in Portuguese, the title this way is strange and not as eye-catching for those who see it, but I wanted to be as faithful as possible to the original title. That's it, I hope this comment reaches you and you make this correction and the video reaches more Portuguese speakers too, if you have any questions about Portuguese, you can count on me :3
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I think you’re a bit off at the beginning of your video Copyright extends to the art that individuals create, including drawings. When an artist produces an original piece of art, they automatically obtain the copyright for that work as soon as it is captured in a tangible form, such as on paper, canvas, or in a digital format. This grants the artist exclusive rights to reproduce, distribute, display, and create derivative works based on their original creation. It is important to understand that copyright safeguards the expression of ideas, which refers to the specific way in which the drawing is presented. However, it does not cover the underlying ideas, concepts, or facts that the artwork may represent. Furthermore, the copyright holder has the option to transfer, license, or sell their rights to others. In various jurisdictions, the length of copyright protection can differ, but it typically lasts for the lifetime of the author plus a specified number of years, often around 70 years in many regions. It is advisable to consult the specific copyright laws relevant to your country or situation for more comprehensive information. Using someone else's creation without their permission usually violates copyright law. Copyright law provides creators with exclusive rights to their original works, which includes the ability to reproduce, distribute, and publicly display their creations. However, there are exceptions to this rule, such as the concept of fair use in the United States. Fair use permits limited use of copyrighted material without obtaining permission, but only under specific conditions. These conditions often include purposes like commentary, criticism, education, or research, allowing for some flexibility in how copyrighted works can be utilized.
Man, I wish I could have a Toyhouse account. I got banned within 24hrs and you can't even get an appeal. All because I'm not allowed to support LGBT bc of my religion. I don't hate people for being a part of it, but like come on. That's just petty. And they were smug as hell about it.
I think you’re a bit off at the beginning of your video Copyright extends to the art that individuals create, including drawings. When an artist produces an original piece of art, they automatically obtain the copyright for that work as soon as it is captured in a tangible form, such as on paper, canvas, or in a digital format. This grants the artist exclusive rights to reproduce, distribute, display, and create derivative works based on their original creation. It is important to understand that copyright safeguards the expression of ideas, which refers to the specific way in which the drawing is presented. However, it does not cover the underlying ideas, concepts, or facts that the artwork may represent. Furthermore, the copyright holder has the option to transfer, license, or sell their rights to others. In various jurisdictions, the length of copyright protection can differ, but it typically lasts for the lifetime of the author plus a specified number of years, often around 70 years in many regions. It is advisable to consult the specific copyright laws relevant to your country or situation for more comprehensive information. Using someone else's creation without their permission usually violates copyright law. Copyright law provides creators with exclusive rights to their original works, which includes the ability to reproduce, distribute, and publicly display their creations. However, there are exceptions to this rule, such as the concept of fair use in the United States. Fair use permits limited use of copyrighted material without obtaining permission, but only under specific conditions. These conditions often include purposes like commentary, criticism, education, or research, allowing for some flexibility in how copyrighted works can be utilized.
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What also kinda annoys me is when someone says “if you loose connection, send the character back to me”, like I get it if the character was originally free and currently doesn’t have any extra art/value, but if it was an oc that I traded/payed for then why should I send them back to the original owner for free if I could instead put the oc up for offers and trade with someone else to get something for the time/money I put into the character? But dude all of this stuff really makes you sound chronically online it’s so funny 😭
I have personally asked a few people to let me know if they lose connection but here's the thing, if they no longer want the character. Imma pay to get it back. Not like ask for it back for free lmao. I think it's ridiculous to expect you can get an oc back for free whenever like the new owner put their own art, commissioned art into it. YAAA I think it's fine to ask people to contact you first before resale but if you intend on getting the character back. You should be prepared to PAY for it.
People who getting so mad about redesigns are so confusing to me. I tried having a discussion with a very popular Toyhouse designer about redesigns and they were strongly against almost any redesigns, and were very strong about how changing a characters gender or body for example makes you a “morally evil” person and continued to bash me and imply I was racist and homohobic because I said people should be able to change anything about a character if it’s theirs, such as a characters sexuality. I genuinely don’t understand why people get so mad about things like this 🤷♀️
there are people out there who consider changing things like gender or body type or even something like sexuality to be redesigns?!? good god i do that all the time lol. i’m buying the base design not whatever lore the previous person had for them. i know lots of people who even prefer you change previous bio info
i make a lot of freebies and adopts to give out in discords and i absolutely LOVE seeing the redesigns that people come up with when they redesign my guys. it always made no sense to me (unless it was like a personal character that you were forced to sell or other circumstances like that) why people were so hurt/offended over redesigning adopts/freebies
Had someone get really really pissy at me after I redesigned a character I bought for them, made sure they are recognizable. Well appearantly not recognizable enough and they even asked me if I wanted to just give the character back instead? Excuse me, I paid for this character?
Ugh I hate that, once you trade or sell the character to someone, it's no longer yours and you no touch
Y?
Why buy a character if your just gonna redesign it?
@@RandomNoob12346Same reason you would redesign a character that you designed yourself
@@RandomNoob12346 I had it for a year at that point and only made some changes so it's easier for me to draw
Well now I gave that character to my boyfriend and made a complete new one
What always annoys me is vague tos terms, specifically the "don't associate my designs with homophobia, racism, discrimination, etc" because I'm always unsure if that means to not make hate art with the character or simply don't associate them with those topics. I'm nonbinary and pansexual so a few of my characters deal with homophobia or transphobia, for my purposes I wish they were more exact without needing to ask for clarification. Also annoying when the tos constantly changes especially if its clear the artist is simply making exceptions for their friends, one of the artists I bought a design from updated their tos like 5 times in a short amount of time clearly because their friend wanted to do something against it. Your tos is your boundaries for your designs, don't let people break your boundaries because they're your friends especially if that boundary being broken was a blacklistable offense before. They won't explode or anything if they aren't allowed to draw certain kinds of art of that one character
i think you can always safely assume that people mean "Dont put me and my creations as a pro-whatever--bad-thing" rather than "no you cant give them a tragic backstory"
@@NeverEverTMyou would think but I've been in the character trading scene for about 6 years and some people are simply like that, there are people who have and will make a fuss if you give an oc a tragic backstory. Like I do generally assume they don't mean that but I've seen people genuinely get upset at the darker backstories people give their designs even if it is clear they don't condone it. Some people are so scared of being called a bad person or abuse condoners that they get SUPER protective of what they put out. Which is why vague wording can be annoying, It would be easier in my opinion to simply put "Do not use my designs to promote hate speech" or "please don't make my designs do bad things and condone their actions" over "do not associate my designs with these things". I just find it nice when a tos is specific and clear, that way there is no grey area and I can know if the person is someone I'd rather not do business with for that tos
@silverfang405 see I like what you're saying here because I think it boils down to the fact that everyone's morals are different and it doesn't make sense to take someone's property back because their morals don't align with yours. Are there some things that might be universally/arguably bad? Yeah, but some things have more of a gray area or be super controversial(inner lgbtq discourse, pro/anti ship, etc)
That's why i wouldn't want someone to be able to take a design away on the condition that I was "racist, homophobic, etc." Bc I'm not those first two but wtf does etc entail?? I don't know what your opinions are. If you're not going to make a full list then it's weird to say that. It can be misused even with the best intentions
I prefer one that said in the tos that they as a designer didn’t condone the actions taken by anyone that ended up with their oc. It’s an understanding that you can’t control what others do and don’t do with characters and you probably shouldn’t try. Doing so often makes people wanna do said things purely out of spite, especially the younger crowds
Watching this while I work on a comm. I agree with your points!! I don't want to do business with any artist who:
does revocations,
does not permit or polices redesigns,
polices how you use their designs (ex: "youre not drawing them enough" "i disagree with the lore you gave them",
and who wants to control if your character and their galleries are visible.
Once it's out of your hands, it is not yours to dictate usage of.
I stopped using toyhouse a long time ago because of concerns I have with the site's longevity due to only having one unreliable mod, and made all of my characters private as a result (I downloaded their files to my pc). Knowing that there are people out there who would take issue with my characters being hidden is so weird
I've seen a few people say that they would only revoke if the artist went silent and didn't have other socials, left the character in a trade/sale folder for a long time, or deleted/hid the character. (not singling anyone out who said this though, it's an opinion I've seen elsewhere before!)
My argument against this is the following.
-Its entirely possible they lost internet access
-Social media is not for everyone, and if they left it doesn't mean their characters are up for grabs. They could still be using them offline.
-If they left them in a trade or sale folder, it's still their character to decide to trade or sell, even if they're inactive for a long time.
-In the worst case scenario, a person can pass away. I remember part of the controversy about DA making your art opted into their ai by default was that deceased artists couldn't opt out. In much the same way, a deceased person can't tell you not to reupload their character because you assumed they weren't using them.
Ultimately, once a character leaves your hands, the owner can use them... or not! and that is their choice as it is now one of their belongings. If you want to control aspects of a design like these that feel out of your reach, you probably shouldnt be trading or selling them. There's no shame in keeping a lot of designs you're attached to!
I am of the belief that once you give something away you no longer have any rights to control what happens to it and that extends to characters. I make it very clear in my "TOS" that there is nothing I can do to take a character away from you and you are free to do with it as you please. The most I ask for it for the character to not be used for spreading bigotry but even then the most I'll do is resign to not sell directly to the person again. I don't understand why people sell characters or designs if they can't fully let them go...At this rate it gets to the point where it feels like you're just renting a design that can suddenly be pulled away from you at any time. it's baffling to me that it's been normalized to the extent it has.
(Using royal "you" here) Like, the moment money becomes involved, you have to start looking at things from a professional stance. Just like if I'm on the clock at my retail job, and there's a customer I don't like, I have to do the bare minimum of my job servicing them politely, the same logic applies here. Your job is this scenario is selling designs. Once you sell a design, it's not yours anymore (unless your ToS specifically states joint ownership kind of things, which imo would deter a LOT of people and get messy fast). You don't get to just take the design back just because you don't like someone, and even in the sparse instances where someone is using the character in actual extremely scummy ways, the best thing you can do from there is cut your ties completely and block the person.
"But I don't want people doing this, that, or the other thing (to the design)," sorry but once you sell a design, it's not yours anymore! That's the point! If you're not ready for that reality, I don't think you're ready to be providing designs as a service, period.
Literally my terms of service: don’t use my design to spread and promote hate speech (yes character IN STORY can be homophobic/racist/etc)
i'm not joking when i say i don't have a TOS, you just own the character anf thier lore now, have fun with them
edit: i make lore with my adopts to give them more value
dude i LOVE when people redesign my character designs i've sold tbh, it's so neat to me to see how the design ends up changing, even if the person ends up never drawing them again afterwards.
this video is so weirdly well timed for me, i've not really drawn anything in like over a year now and i'm thinking about doing it again via selling character designs like i used to do years ago. cooking up a TOS seemed daunting at first, but then this vid showed up and it's actually... kinda easy for me to conceptualize now lmfaooo
I once had a person in their tos not allow me to trade their designs for free or like a raffle, they later ended up stealing my own designs but that another story…
And tos are why I just make my own characters. One person I used to buy from changed they’re tos to be a LOT more strict and now she can’t sell her characters anymore
My only tos rule is really let me know if you wanna make money of a design I made because I wanna buy some march! As long as you’re making new art, if I’m making art that you wanna sell I’ll just add on a little extra fee. Like 20$ onto the original cost.
The only oath rule I have about oc swaps or buys is that the character isn’t upsold after getting it from me. But even then I’m not made if you forget something like that.
This is a really interesting video! I was in the adoptable community a long time ago, and my TOS were pretty simple back them I think. However, I did remember some drama over abusive TOS like 'if you want to get rid of the character then give it back to me instead of reselling it' (which meant that you lost the character AND your money) or 'if I do not like what you do with the character or you do not use it then I will revoke it', which I thought was quite wild.
I think I only revoked a character once in my life. Back when G+ was still alive (gosh, I feel old) I was in a community where we made ocs, and one day I made free redesigns, with the only rule being that, as they were free, they could not be resold. I made four or five and I was really proud of them! And my heart broke when less than a week later, one of the people I made a redesign for, decided to sell it, with no art added or anything, they just tried to sold the redesign that I gave them for free. I ended up informing them that I was going to revoke the redesign, that they could keep the old design, as stated by the one and only rule that was written on my post, it could not be resold.
Sadly I did not do anything with that character. Maybe I should use them someday, maybe I should just look at the design sometimes and that is all. I found it difficult to use them or gift them bearing in mind that they still had the same theme and some of the characteristics of the original design.
I have to say though, I did not know that some people count as 'redesign' to add clothes to a character!! Or accessories!! It had never crossed my mind something, I always took redesigns as changing markings, or colours until they do not look like the original at all (which often naturally happens as you draw one character, I have to admit). I suppose I can relate to seeing one design I'm very proud of being changed so much as being something disheartening, but at least they get loved that way, which I think is what counts!
Great video btw! I really like the points you made and your research, and your drawing as well!! I love how colourful it is :33 hope you have a great day!
I love toyhouse, but some people on there are truly unhinged with their tos. I once saw someone who in their tos said "If you say I can't do something with the design on your tos, by accepting mine you agree that is now null and will not apply to me during my ownership." I was a silly goose and didn't look at their tos before I traded them one of my designs for some of theirs (that's 100% on me) but luckily this person traded the design I gave them off and doesn't own them anymore which is...genuinely a huge relief. I don't know if their "tos" would even hold up if any sort of conflict happened, but it's so strange to me to basically have a clause saying you don't have to follow ANY rules a designer sets. And what about designs obtained secondhand where the designer DIDN'T directly trade to them and agree to those terms???
Really no tos matters unless you’re willing to pay a lawyer to enforce it.
oooh i love these takes!!
especially the redesign portion. every character i've bought i've ended up usually altering the color palette to have more saturation / contrast and adding outfits. if that is against an artist's t.o.s i just don't buy it, though.
"character flippers" also pmo. i don't view it as wrong if time passed, because in that case, maybe people would be willing to pay more for x artist's design due to more people discovering the artist / wanting those artist's designs. However, i have also seen it where people (especially for pop designers) would buy a design and resell it for higher within a week DX
however i sorta view the right mode of action if this does happen is to just block them from buying / refuse to sell to them. yeah they maybe gained one or two flips, but eh. oh well.
As far as revoking goes, Walmart can't come take a blender back if I use it for crafts instead of food.
To demand a different precedent sets a standard I do not want to live by.
And I have sold designs and commissions
Artists tend to have a serious misunderstanding of one thing: You lose FULL ownership of anything you share with the world. Anyone can draw it and do ANYTHING they want to. Owning it or not.
If you want something kept personal, you gotta KEEP it personal.
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Watching this video through made me remember its been a good moment since I've updated my Tos on my Toyhouse, so I gave it a good update that it... *desperately* needed as I realized there were details I didn't add and stuff I no longer agreed with xD
At the end when you said, "I think you should repeatedly ask yourself as you handwrite your terms of service, is this something I should be saying about someone else's property?" Really made me think about my old Tos
There was nothing crazy in it mind you, I'm not a strict person about the characters I make, but it made me fully adjust what I had put down for "Character Recognizability"
I had it as a plain "Redesign just make them recognizable" which had no description of *how* recognizable, cause thats what most of my buds had for theirs lol
As I updated everything else, I had fully changed that one completely, as I asked "Would I actually care if somebody made them look wildly different?"
Literally tested it with a pastel character by making a copy and making them a neon demon with sharp claws and spikes
The answer? Naw. I really don't. I think it would actually be hilarious if someone neon'd the crud outta one of my softer designs😂
Awesome video! Really helpful when thinking about the bigger picture. You have an awesome day/night brah🎉
Had someone comment on a design that I owned, that they made, saying I had to ask their permission to add extras features onto a character...
I had given the character wings btw, in the exact same colours and with no changes to the base design. So I said I'm not doing that, obvs, and they then proceeded to fight me and argue with me that it's against their tos. What where these tos? A work in progress apparently cause they hadn't even been written yet... but somehow I was supposed to know and follow them anyways, yeah I don't think so.
Honestly it boils my piss when people try and add bullshit rules like revokes, redesigns and tradebacks onto designs *I MADE*, like f off no?? Thats not only against my tos, cause I hate those rules and I think it's stupid, but its also just so possessive? If you can't handle the mere idea that someone just might draw a character the way they want or, heaven forbid, add a minor detail then you shouldn't be selling/trading, end of.
And if you think that's stupid then I want you to take a second, breathe, and think about it this way:
Imagine you buy a house (crazy in this economy ik but stick with me) and you buy it in its entirety, paid full price blah blah blah, then one day, out of nowhere, the old owners come banging on your door and throwing a fit cause they saw through your window that you changed the wallpaper they put up. It's weird right?
And yes I'm aware houses and pixels on a screen aren't the same but I like to think we can all use our thinking caps and think about hyperboles and subjectivity and etc etc lol /lh
Great video, I agree with your points. The one that always confused me the most was revoking a character because it was redesigned too heavily. I could never tell if they want to revoke the original design, or the character itself. Cause if a character is redesigned to the point of warranting a revoke, then the character itself is actually immune to BEING revoked because it's, in the eyes of the designer, a different character. So like, what would revoking an old design do? Its like revoking a design for not being used enough, but worse because there's actual emotional attachment to the original.
I dont think a designer should ever be able to revoke a character under any circumstance. Even if the owner of the character is foul. At most they should be able say "I don't want to be associated with this design anymore. Make a new toy house page of the character where I am no longer credited." or something like that. Which could still be a pretty big blow if the character has 3k drawings, but i would support the designer in that case, where i wouldn't support them if they simply said "mine now"
Speaking of which, I'm impressed at your character with 3 thousand drawings. My favorite oc is five years old, and i was proud to reach 200. I have a long way to go! I loove ocs with massive amounts of art, i always enjoy looking at them.
I do have one note about your video, though. I am someone who watched this while drawing. But you didn't read the topic cards out loud, so when you were discussing people's opinions on revoking designs, I had no context as to what you were talking about or what everyone voted 'no' to, because I wasn't looking at the screen to see it. So it would be nice if you could restructure the beginning sentences in future videos to include the topic specifically. Such as "Revoking designs is one of the most controversial things in the character design scene as of recently", or reading out the topic title in the beginning, just to sort of keep the listeners on the same page as the watchers. It felt particularly jarring considering you specifically mentioned people who don't watch the screen during your sponsorship read.
but all in all, great video. I enjoyed your points, and it was well structured. I think you did a good job keeping it within topic without getting dull.
Despite being an artist, I'm not really involved in the "art community" so I wasn't really sure what this video was gonna be but...yeah I agree with every point.
THE CENSOR AT 10:21 CAUGHT ME SO OFF-GUARD WHY DID YOU G-NOTE ME 😭/silly
My only rule is just not to buy them just to resell them for higher. tbh i really don't care what people do with the oc
This is the second video of yours with the text on the thumbnail being “This is…weird” btw, nothing against it I just find it funny lmao
WAIT IT WAS THE OTHER CHARACTER TRADING VIDEO THATS SO SMART LOL
@pigeonsprout STOP I ALREADY GOT A TUMBLR ASK ABOUT IT LET ME OUTTTT
i love these videos when you talk about character trading and selling. I'm not at all familiar with the customs so learning about it through these is really helpful !! 💙
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Y’know I wonder if you can make a vid dissecting closed species and off branders. Or maybe dissecting adoptables. Idk random ideas since I’ve heard many sides to all three of these.
You might bring this up but the best reproduction for tos breaking in my opinion is to blacklist them from being able to buy your designs ever again
You bring up a lot of good points. I am personally far too attached to my character whcih is why they are all forever homed.
However I had a situation where I made a design meant to be a dopt, and then told another friend who was also selling adopts that I liked it so much that I wanted to keep it.
And they told me it was stupid for doing that. I kept them anyway. best decission ive made.
crying because just yesterday some of my friends gave you their tos, idk if you know but the sashley/ knite/ joycawn design market is crazy for reselling for obnoxious amounts of money and tradeback etc
some people even resold ocs they got from trades and gifts
rip
If I own a design by another artist, I'll absolutely follow their TOS, but when it comes to my designs... as long as I get credit for the original design, I don't care what happens to it lmfao. Resell something I gave you for free for like $100, IDGAF. I've actually had someone redesign a design to be absolutely unrecognizable and all it made me was confused over why they bought the original design -- but I still got paid, so again, don't really care :P
I think a wild aspect to a lot of modern TOS is restrictions on how you can draw the character? I 110% get not wanting something to be involved w/ bigoted BS etc or whatever but its not like those people will obey a TOS anyways & plus, like you said, I think restricting the way someone uses a design they own is "something you shouldn't say about someone else's property".
Anyways, lovely video and great topic pick!
I don’t get why the original artist who drew the art gets SO pressed, when the buyer slightly changes the design. If that makes any sense
What I did to make sure my terms of service were covering all my bases is find someone with one they allow people to copy off of and one by one each point copy and paste them and reword how I see fit! in my opinion if I sell an adopt I'll specify any commissioned/full made art piece exists for the character that the price can go up! I actually would prefer all my prices to stay at the value I sell them for and not less, not cause blah blah blah but I'd much rather people not lose their moneys worth! Ontop of that if someone COMPLETELY remakes their adopt and I like the old design more maybe I could reach out and pay half the price for the old design back and they keep their new design and I could re-sell or just keep! ^^
one thing i will say about design revoking, is i added it to my TOS specifically after i dealt with a situation w/coming to terms with having been abused by my groomers. i had made so much art and so many characters for them during the time when i was a kid/teenager and when i became and adult and realized just how much of my abuse was basically immortalized and attached to those really gross couple of people, i was mortified and basically Not So Gently demanded that all my work be removed from their pages entirely. it brought me a lot of peace of mind and since then i've been a lot stricter about who i sell to and pretty much have low patience for people with values similar to the ones my groomers had (like people who speak inappropriately to/about minors (even fictional), drawing really deplorable nsfw, etc). i try to do ""background checks"" before i sell an adoptable as best as i can, but i do have it in my TOS that i may request character/design termination if it's found out that my work is being attached to disgusting people / actions / art. my groomers used art and OCs to prey on me, and the thought of someone potentially doing that with something *i* made just really bothers me. maybe it's not that deep, idk. i also go about it differently though, because i don't ask for a design to be returned to me, i ask for complete deletion. i've thankfully never had to actually have a discussion with someone about deletion (again i try to just be careful who i sell to in the first place) but in my mind, the character trading scene is pretty big right now in the art community and if someone doesnt like my TOS... for lack of a more polite way to put it, they can kick rocks and go find a different artist to buy from. my work is just so personal to me that imo if someone didn't read my TOS and was surprised by any enforcement actions i took, that's on them. very long winded and a bit personal but i just wanted to share my perspective on character revoking
2 b clear my other TOS regarding adoptables is super tame, i dont care about redesigns or anything else, it's ONLY really specific , agreed upon 'morally bad' things that im just like. zero tolerance about. i love making designs and selling them and seeing how other people take something ive created and make it their own. i just want to keep my art in spaces and with people who arent being like. nasty. idk. it's pretty much the only thing with my TOS that i actively care about and defend. like do whatever w/the design u bought from me just dont be a creep idgaf . i think having it on my TOS brings me peace of mind / deters those kinds of people from buying from me anyways
Character revoking is not ever going to work. They probably just hid the art and will bring it back in a few months. My genuine recollection is to block and avoid them. It’s better for your health then to stalk their profiles and be thinking about them to the point of stress. I say this with a genuine want to help to be clear. It’s not healthy to fallow people like that and focus on them.
@@trashman11 i see where you are coming from, but in my opinion if you are not going to follow an artists TOS then you shouldnt.. be buying from that artist, no one is making you
I think its crazy that people think they can control what someone does with a character they have handed over to someone else, free or not. I hope these people never make a popular series with their ocs because they won't be able to handle what fandoms do to the characters. On the other hand, simply don't buy/do business with someone who has policies you find ridiculous. Just make a design inspired (and i do mean INSPIRED, NOT STOLEN!) by that design and do what you like with it, if you really must have it.
20:11 - 20:43
honestly kind of why i quit using toyhouse (and kind of oc trading in general), it just felt like it was all a transaction with no actual life behind it and not rlly a hobby anymore ;w;
I feel like you can do whatever you want with a character you buy. If i dont like it, ill just block you 🙄
What are your thoughts on people redesigning custom-made designs for them? I make a lot of customs and I’ve found that they’ve been redesigned and then sold because the new owner couldn’t connect with them (the new design usually) anymore. It has gotten to a point where I have lost motivation to continue making customs. It pisses me off a little bit, idk.
I've had this exact thing happen to me! Honestly, I don't mind much. I try to see it from their perspective; they had a design custom made, meaning they had no idea what it would look like before they would recieve it. They didn't connect with it right away, but they wanted to at least try to, so they tweaked the design somewhat to see if they could connect that way. They still didn't, but now they've invested time into the design, so they resell it to someone else who might like it better.
It's up to the person who buys it which design they like better, so if they do like the redesign, then they can use that, or they can keep the original!
I get how it could be upsetting though, but I do think they have good intentions and just couldn't connect
Definitely going to review the tos I made for comms & character trading that I haven't even used bc I wanna make sure people understand, bc I did make a lot of rules to show boundaries (including stuff that doesnt apply to what I sell) but I wanna make sure said enforcements dont sound unreasonable to a normal person (iirc I basically said I'd blacklist/not sell to them again, and make a beware, but the product if received is still legally theirs, and if not received they get a refund)
People should make sure their ToS represents what they want, but the retaliation should not scare regular people away, especially if its bc of unclear consequences, or worse, unclear rules
Something I think is an important distinction that you didn't make: I believe there's a difference between gift art and traded art. A person makes gift art because they like the character or the person who owns said character; they do it of their own free will, for their own enjoyment. An art trade on the other hand, involves both parties agreeing to put in roughly equal amounts of effort, and choosing which of their own characters the other party will draw. Time is money, and if commissioned art and personal art adds value, then traded art should add value too, because you paid for that art by spending time making art for your trade partner yourself. Gift art is different because it was received for free, traded art is not free.
Where do people usually trade/sell characters? Im quite curious lolol and I loved your drawing together with the video ^^
Toyhou.se is a big site for character trading! But it happens on basically any site that has an art community on it! Thank u!! ❤❤
@Qwizz oh thats cool!
toyhouse and discord mostly
Theres this designer that I looked up to that blocked me for declining a trade and put me on their blacklist so no longer having rose tinted glasses, there's a lot of weird stuff on there, here's some of it
"Traded character (Art, Trade, Ac)
Cannot be sold unless you've added two or more artworks [You will be confronted if you will sale a traded OC with no additional art] Can be traded, can be gifted or sent back.
Freebie character (Free, Raffle, WTA)
Can NEVER be sold regardless of how much art was added. Cannot be traded unless you've added two or more artworks. Can be gifted or sent back.
Freebies have a 2 month cooldown from the date received => You are not allowed to trade it (in the case you added art) before this cooldown ends. You're still allowed to regift it anytime tho!
TOS violation will lead to my BlackList"
"Results in Blacklisting:..
... 3. Bailing on purchase result in a block, don't offer to just say "I don't want it anymore" or "I can't do it" or the worst one "I decided it's not worth it"." (what I broke)
Also there's a "Do not trade or sell to anyone on my blacklist" and then they don't specify everyone on their blacklist.
Anyways I may or may not have gotten somebody to trade me one of their designs for a few artworks and now she's one of my fav ocs
im like in the middle of the video.. and the one thing about "revoking" a design, as a person who makes characters and adoptables, honsetly i actually hate the whole "revoking" thing.. Especially if the rules are SUPER strict..
the only reason for ME doing that, is if the person deletes the design on toyhouse (cause i usually wanna see what their doing with the character, and who owns it) ,never used it and never communicated with me with if they were actually gonna use the design or not. I have only had to revoke one design cause of this, i believe
But this video kinda makes me rethink that slightly.. (I might maybe change that rule..)
Like you can use my designs HOWEVER u want.... You can redesign, resell etc etc theres nothing to exactly to follow.. .. (Theres also "dont give blacklisted people this"... )
So thru out the video i honestly agree with everything.. Like i wouldnt go against everything u think.
(Im so sorry if my typing is bad)
your rules sound really fair!
me personally as sad as it would be if someone deleted the whole page i usually don't do anything about it b/c i have no proof whether or not they're using it elsewhere and i don't want to resell it again or something in case that person genuinely does still want that oc and simply doesn't like toyhouse or something. but i do think that's kind of up to the designer. i'm a multiplatform artist so my designs aren't confined to toyhouse anyway, but i would imagine if you only sell and post on toyhouse it wouldn't be the same
In my opinion, as someone who hid their characters and moved off site (and still loves and uses each and every one of them, just on my hard drive) I would be REALLY upset if someone reuploaded my beloved character because I didnt individually alert them to me hiding my ocs. IMO, don't do this. It's wrong to assume that a character is unloved just because it's deleted from one website. Ask if you have to, because maybe theyll respond and tell you about how they're using the character somewhere else!! and even if you never get a reply, you shouldn't assume it's unloved. I'm glad to hear you're open minded about changing revocation rules, and I hope my perspective helps make a case for why it's not a good idea
@@8MW_ @qwizz honsetly i can agree with the both of you about this.. i might just honsetly say like (ill only revoke w/ perms) or just ask to put a character offsite with comminution with me (so i still know where the character is etc) just so its more fair and not like im stealing away something they got from me even if they still enjoyed that character. this does also change my perspective on “horders” or people who “dont rlly touch/use” designs too.. thanks for sharing both ur opinions tho it helped with my perspective alot better!
(Again sorry for if my writing has mistakes again...)
omg only tangentially related but.
what brush are you using for the lineart for this speedpaint?? :0c
i had someone who said theyd be "watching me" to make sure i use the character i bought off them that they literally never used, i blocked them.
also, i had a case like 5 years ago where i got this really cool oc for free, and the original designer of the character (also 13 at the time) said they taking it away from me. last year i reached back out to them and we cleared things up, i can confirm ownership again
i completely agree.. your selling the character. (unless otherwise stated…) i think that should mean the buyer has the same rights as they would if they created the character themselves. the only thing that should be credited is the designer. if not your basically buying the rights to colors on a screen.. you’d be better off buying art of an existing oc instead of a design
the sensor noise is a bit jarring imo, almost starts like the start of a discord call,, genuinely makes me jump lol
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Yeah revoking character thing is BS 99.99/100 😊
My personal tos for designs:
Design TOS
❀This character cannot be sold for more than purchased, unless extra is added via commissions OR self made art.
❀This character comes with commercial rights (meaning by you can use it for branding, merch and streaming! Credit is nice, but not entirely required for every post)
❀This character cannot be traded to those one SweetDiscordia's blacklist (this will result in a warning, then blacklisting). Character will be revoked[in the sense i will not want to be associated]/voided.
❀ Please do not include my designs in problematic/immoral/hateful content! (Dark/Horror is ok, of course).
❀ Redesigns/design changes are always ok! Go wild, they’re yours now ^^
❀ Have fun and spoil your new oc!
Breaking my tos will lead to a public blacklisting and honestly, revoking the oc thats been used in immoral content would be gross, since that design is now tainted. I'd personally put a notice on their th and wherever i find it. For my own art? I'll legit get it removed from their profiles, which on th is okay!
ah yes, toyhouse users being weird /lh, not a surprise tbh, first it was the kinsonas that are just stolen characters, now this?? people can't seem to compreehend the fact that once you give away a chat/design, it's no longer theirs :/, it's annoying, expecially when they act entitled about it, and don't even get me started on those TOS', yikes
For me, I just tend to not take characters back unless if they were free and the person didn’t add anything and they give them to me.
If someone would break my tos idc I’ll watch out for them a bit [depending on what rule they broke] and just let life go on. Not my character anymore so there isn’t anything I can do.
I find it a bit strange with rules how a character can just be taken like at least give them back what they paid you ya know.
funnily I have a very different take on the "Don't redesign characters" than you. Personally if I think Im going to redesign a character enough I won't buy it. Because why WOULD I buy something I'll just redesign? At that point I would just... design my own character. Like on a seller side I wouldn't be pissed if somebody redesigned a character they bought from me (Like whatever, they're your character now. Do what you want) I'd just be confused.
I have an issue with entering multiple free raffles and freebies on impulse. One time I’d done a round of them and the next day remembered to check the artists TOS and such incase I didn’t agree with them and had to pull out. Yeah I’d entered some random cute pastel raffle that was by someone who’s TOS said they wouldn’t sell to people with “fake genders/sexualities” ????????? Pulled out so fast
As someone who does a lot of adopt stuff. I try to keep my tos as simple as I can. Idc what the hell you do with the design you bought as long as you aren’t using it to push an ideology that harms others (zoos, kid likers, etc etc)
Redesign it, do whatever, i can’t care because yeah i got money and now you’re enjoying it so it’s a win win for us lol
One of my least favorite things about others TOS’s is the whole freebie thing
I have one specific person in mind but they have a tos that even if you pay for comms on a freebie design you’re not allowed to sell it??? I get if it’s just the character with no added art but they’ll blacklist you for selling a free character that again, has paid art which confuses me so much lmao
The character trading scene confuses me, i genuinely don’t get it because another artist I have a few designs from it’s like their designs are only to be traded around. I never see anybody actually draw or get art of those designs before selling them immediately
I'm selling adopts over 10 years now and yeah I definetly needed to change my TOS unfortunately ...because of that rare cases of people being not nice, though I agree with you on all points too.
(I definetly dislike the rule the most - "you can sell them for whatever you want". I was underpricing myself waaay too much in the beginning of my time and sold like an adopt with 20+ artpieces for under 10$ and people are selling them for 100$ now without any added artwork / worth, it's insane q__q).
One rule which is also insane for me and did come to my mind immediatly - is not make any siblings / childrens ouf the design, because I do like to have ships and maybe kids in the future.(I do understand you not wanting to somebody "copy" your design - but you also don't need to make twins / indentical designs to make a sibling).
I'm definetly here for all the character / toyhouse content on your account! So I'm very glad about this video!
Me personally, my terms of service are very simple. Don't make it 100% unrecognizable (I'm fine with redesigns, I redesign 90% of my chars afterall) (as you said, this like... never happens... though...) and don't make NSFW, because im a minor and check on designs i made sometimes
If someone broke these, i wouldn't "revoke" the design -- that feels... weird? -- I'd just blacklist them from buying again.
If the new design is 100% unrecognizable from the original, that would make it an entirely new character, so why should the original TOS apply to it?
@aspthewyvern3622 It matters to me because I'm not sure why you'd buy something just to change it in every way, it kinda feels insulting
i hate how th has made oc trading. like i understand if minors dont want nsfw of their designs, like sometimes rules are very understandable! but when people revoke ocs for just, redesigning them?? i dont get it. i understand revoking if a design is given to like an awful person, like a groomer or something (ive done that!) but id never revoke an oc from someone just for disliking them ?? bc thats rlly stupid. u give someone a character, its THEIR CHARACTER NOW???? they OWN THE CHARACTER!!!!
unrelated but omori bg music jumpscare /pos
Dang… in the object show community, it’s so simple. I could go into detail how it works there.
I don't even see much character trading there tbh
At least not in a diff way then reg art communities
@ Well, there’s subsections of the object show community. It’s not as common in Discord but I have seen it happen. It’s very common in the Scratch OSC.
(Talking about SOSC) What I know is that people are usually fine with redesigns and that you *do* lose the rights to your OC once you trade them away. However, you can still ask for permission to use your former OC if you ever need it for whatever reason. Heck, you can even change their name, gender, personality etc. Character trading is just asset trading to us, the limbs and face just help us… I guess give the characters a personal touch.
@ ahhh scratch that makes more sense
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Inwas watching until i reconized the style of your talksprite, they are a peoshipper. I wonr be watching you again.
Why is this person bad? Could you explain /nm
@Carottleamen the aryist behind the talk shipper has a history of shipping minor x adult characters and drawing fetishy gay content of eddsworld characters, the youtuber im posting this comment on clearly must not know, but ive known and thusly avoided them for a while. I dont like seeing people supporting some who thought adult x minor was ever ok just becauee pretty art styke thats gross
Omg I seen u on toyhouse
i do generally agree with this video, but i think the ooonly thing that contradicts my view on this is the hard no on design revocation ever. i do agree that terms like "dont change the design too much or its mine again" are dumb but i think an artist wanting to have a failsafe in the cases of say, the buyer being outed as a bigot or a groomer is reasonable yk? purely because i know i personally wouldnt want my art associated with someone like that, even if the clause ends up being used rarely or not at all, itd be good to have.
I talked about this in the video! Yes I get where you're coming from but I don't like artists giving themselves the power to take a design away like that. What about false claims? Those aren't at all uncommon. Does an innocent person deserve to get their property taken from them on the grounds that someone posted a callout? And yes, while in theory it'd be nice to never have your designs fall into the hands of bad people, and I'm not defending those kinds of people by any means, I think the principle doesn't make sense to me. Because why should you get the power to take property away without compensation because the other person's morals don't align with yours? And again, that's not me saying those things are okay. That's me pointing out that this isn't a clear line and therefore sort of unfair imo. Are you going to make a comprehensive list of all the adjectives that buyers can't associate with without getting their design revoked? "Bigot" means different things to different people. A term like "if you're a bad person ill revoke your design" seems so easy to misuse to me. If you sell a character, it's not yours anymore. That's my opinion. We should be doing background checks before selling to people, not after. Especially on shaky proof.
Most people with common sense aren't going to assume you're best buds with someone or support all their actions because they own a design by you, either. On every site but toyhouse it's kind of hard to even trace it back to you. Yeah, it sucks when someone you don't like owns and is using your design. But the more logical plan of action imo is to just block them and never sell to them again, like some of the other comments have said.
I can list so many potential situations where this could go wrong, versus that ONE case where it might make sense. Why normalize the concept in that context?
- false claims that later get disproven
- based on your individual morals (e.g inner lgbtq discourse) and don't necessarily hurt anyone/warrant stealing their property back and reselling again
- could put MORE negative attention on you than if you just let them keep the design
- the person you resold it to after didn't know about it's past owner, and now THEY are getting associated with the big bad wolf. The only person who profited (twice) in this context is you. Does that sound fair?
Once a brand gets attached to a character it does tend to linger. Who's gonna be the one who has to live with that?
- personal issues that don't warrant stealing property and reselling it again
@@QwizzI do get where you’re coming from, but I do think a artist can be liable to take back a design if they want to, as long as if it were their TOS, and it would’ve been buyer’s choice to still go through with it.
@Carottleamen did you watch the video? Or the section at 6:00? Yeah artists can put whatever they want in their tos but that doesn't make them immune to critique or invalidate anyone's points on the matter. You can do whatever you want, nobody's saying you can't
@@Qwizz Yes, I did watch the full video-there’s no need to get so hostile just because I replied to your comment. I understand and agree that artists aren’t immune to critique for their TOS, and I wasn’t trying to invalidate anyone’s points. My point was more about respecting agreements that buyers choose to accept when proceeding with a purchase.
It’s fair to critique TOS policies, but it’s also fair for an artist to enforce them if they’re transparent about their terms.
Hello, I'm Brazilian and I saw that you put "Troca de caracteres questionável TOS...", but the most correct way to describe what you wanted would be "Os Questionáveis Termos de Serviço de Troca de Personagens..."
First, you put "caracteres", and that means like letters in Portuguese (the translator sometimes makes mistakes haha, I was confused, but I soon realized when I translated it into English), and TOS is not 100% clear in Portuguese and it's not that common to hear about it (at least as far as I know in the artistic community), so I put terms of service without the abbreviation, but the abbreviation is "TDS" if you want to abbreviate it.
In my opinion, I would give this another title in Portuguese, the title this way is strange and not as eye-catching for those who see it, but I wanted to be as faithful as possible to the original title.
That's it, I hope this comment reaches you and you make this correction and the video reaches more Portuguese speakers too, if you have any questions about Portuguese, you can count on me :3
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I think you’re a bit off at the beginning of your video
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Man, I wish I could have a Toyhouse account. I got banned within 24hrs and you can't even get an appeal. All because I'm not allowed to support LGBT bc of my religion. I don't hate people for being a part of it, but like come on. That's just petty. And they were smug as hell about it.
I think you’re a bit off at the beginning of your video
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