@ryechew were you able to complete the fate episodes? I'm stuck at 3 because it says "progress through main story" which I already beat the game and working on the 8 after missions to move into extreme difficulty.
@@cas48spyder I never had this issue. I dont know what that is. I would assume you have to go beat behemoth at the end of proud because the optional quest count as the story in that message. Or you have to finish Roland's journal if you haven't done that. Dont want to give to many spoilers. Dont know why though. Not sure exactly.
@@jamitiong2978 Yeah its bad but if you add that into the medallion converging its still about 1 every four behemoth fights. Honestly this is way to grindy for a game that doesnt plan on continuing updates after its been out for 3 months
Just wanted to mention something since I didn't see it discussed in the video is the topic of Tweyen's Warpath sigil. It completely changes the way she is played since it massively buffs all of her attacks but only if they are charged, she gets -20% charge time, 20% enhanced damage (meaning it bypasses the damage cap), 30% stun power and a 20% to inflict any debuff if the attack is charged. Outside of the Warpath the only way she applies her debuffs is through Depravity and given it's long Cooldown you aren't able to use it very often to keep debuffs applied for Clincher since Clinchers damage is increase based on the number of debuffs on the target. So you ideally want to be charging as many of her attacks as possible for both the debuff application on top of the fact that it does like 4x as much damage as a un-charged attack given how it has enhanced damage. This also means that running alpha sigils has no effect on her build since she isn't doing normal attacks, Ideally you want to be sticking with x2 Gamma and x2 Damage Cap+. Just wanted to bring this up since I didn't see it mentioned in the "Builds and Sigils" section of the video. Her change of playstyle offered by her Warpath, like most characters is absolutely essential to dealing good damage with Tweyen.
Man i dont like how Two Crown skill goes on cooldown when you get killed , not sure if its intended or bugged but I will say this if it is intended thats garbo since you can only use the skill once per encounter
@@ryechew what i mean is if its off the start timer and you die it goes back to the start timer again and you can't use it , I know its on cooldown from the beginning
My runs always drops crowns of lament so i dont think the quest is bugged or idk. What it doesnt drop though is the supreme weapon essence and ive been afking the bahamot quest and get s+.
I don't think i fought anything yet that survived long enaugh, so that i could actually use Two Crown. Maybe if you play with 3 randoms wich don't know what they do you might be able to use it xD
I hope not haha. you get it once basically but it makes the debuffs last half the mission. which would be good on certain things. But she needs a buff i think.
Currently only behemoth, lucilius, and the robot boss from proud mode survive long enough to let you use the skill. Even bahamut doesn’t live long enough.
@@ryechew I think Two Crown needs to be reworked. I mean if we cant use it before it comes off cooldown pretty much most of the time its just a given up skill slot. And if you somehow actually get to use it... Well the boss is most likely at 20% hp max.. so any other skill wouldve been worth more at this point. Personally i now run Depravity, Clincher, Lethal rain and Peerless Eye. I so wanna use Two Crown but in its current state its sadly just not worth using 99% of the time :
I HEAVILY disagree on using Two-Crown's Strife. I'd say it's probably her second worst skill even. While I won't deny it does insane damage, THREE MINUTES of CD on fight start for using it A SINGLE TIME is just not worth it. You're fighting with only 3 skills 99% of the time, and if your team is good you might not even get to use it. I would much rather run one of the two buff skills, or even both if you give up one of the damage skills, they're just more useful overall
I see this point. But honestly a fight even lasts like 8 minutes at max so it's a skill slot to make debuffs last half the match. I get your point though. But buffs don't really do much in this game if everyone has a well built character due to damage cap
@@ryechew well, her buffs are useful in a different way. One skill gives her mirror image which can allow you to just facetank while you go shotgun (or well, shotbow) in their face, the other doubles the charge speed of your super shot which leads to more dps
All eternals in the original game has a 4th skill, Two Crown's Strife in her case, which is on a 10T cooldown before you can use it. So I guess that's the way they implement the initial 10T lock out.
I was using alpha's. the video on YT takes a long time to render for small content creators thats why when you see a new video its very pixelated for a couple hours.
pretty much, when you look at every weapons passive you unlock you notice theres a huge amount given, let alone crits too, the eternals being only able to have 2 weapons does limit how much stats you actually have
@ryechew I am not so sure. On characters like Narmaya, the max attack with a fully awakened terminus weapon would be around 6.5k. They got huge buffs in the form of special sigils in this patch. On the other hand, the eternals need to waste a slot just to get terminus weapon passive.
@@theversatilegenius91if your Narmaya only has 6.5k with a maxed terminus you did something wrong. Without the two crown sigil my tweyen is already at 8k and has no sigils that directly increase attack. The raw attack of a character doesn’t matter at all if they are hitting damage cap. And tweyen actually has really high modifiers on her charged moves and skills making her hit damage cap easily. With just crit rate and concentrated fire she almost hits the cap. So once the weapon is fully awakened I’ll likely be able to drop the attack up skill for the stout heart one.
@SH1NK1R01 Thanks for the info. I was talking about only weapon raw attack power of 6.5k, not total. I will try to see if she can hit the damage cap like you said. Also, which special sigils are you using on her? I think her warpath and boundary sigils are much better than her awakening÷.
As a CC yes but she has no buffs so can't replace Caggly or Rosetta so she could have more specialized. Good yes if I was to add her in the tier list she'd get a B as a character. Great but two many scenarios happen that make her Debuffs useless. Like they she'd all those debuffs in blood rage so what's the point of having the debuff extender only happen once a match
Ok this upgrade made me drop the game gonna platinum i have to finish only the story again… U dont just have to farm as hell like its bahamut just for recruit her i took 2 hour rng wasnt good then i find she doesnt have other weapon and her best sigils are locked again behind the super tedious farm for behemot so yeah no thx from the trailer i really like her but dawn her dps sucks compared to others lol Was expecting less tedious farm but no sorry after 150 hour already this is too much cuz she underwhelming and have to waste a sigil for her became a terminus come on im out
I definitely understand this feeling. I have 400 hours in this game and sandolphon is the last update. a lot of new players are going to like the game a lot more. and i bet the drop rates dramatically increase in the next two months
No I get this point of view honestly. its really like 40-60 behemoth fights just for her terminus sigil and ascension weapon and you loose a sigil slot and the game has no players anymore
Well you can't even get them till your at endgame unless you 5 dollars lol. But yes they did. It's sad they don't plan to keep the game updated but it was fun. Not every game needs to consume years of my life I guess
You can start farming for her as soon as you reach extreme what are you talking about. And you can play with the new characters in story mode or something like they said in the livestream
@@Ribbonzarkuraspear New players aren't in extreme, they are set for players that are in end game farming. I'm barely at 6k right now with everyone unlocked but the 2 new ones. So by their unlocking of characters, I should be able to get them right now.
@@Ribbonzarkuraspear so the extreme mission gives you 2 to 4 of the medallions. you would need 90 just to get the cards then would not be able to get the ascension weapon. I gues you can but it isnt really viable. Unless you need fortitude shards why do a quest nearly 30 times just to get 1 character. It would be faster to go in the streets and sell lemonade till you made 5 dollars i think.
Silly how exactly? Did he get anything wrong? Did you notice him using her wrong, or a better way of using her? If so, might want to include that in your comment, if not, kindly quit your yapping.
I said in the video after people learned to break her I get better I could do advanced techniques. But she really isn't complicated. She will have an optimal damage rotation like everyone's else that won't work against most monsters cause baralt doesn't turn the field into a bullet storm. Like (xxyxyy++)+ reginleiv+surge+decimate+ armor break is the damage rotation for the captain but good luck not getting treated like a door mat against lucilius like that. She is simple and if you aren't maxing her debunks you might as well play a different character lol.
Realized drop rates from Modders below
Also if you are interested best min maxed build If you are hitting your max damage through DMG cap alpha/beta/gamma combos run what you like. minimaxing isn't necessary
nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/quest_drop_rates/#lock-horns-407322
[4 ★★★★☆ (S+ Rank)]
* Lot #1 (Total Weight: 10000)
- x1 Supreme Weapon Essence (3% - 300)
- x1 Revenant Medallion (97% - 9700)
🎁 Chest
* Lot #1 (Total Weight: 10000)
- x5 Phondam Sulfur (50% - 5000)
- x6 Phondam Sulfur (30% - 3000)
- x7 Phondam Sulfur (20% - 2000)
[5 ★★★★★ (S++ Rank)]
* Lot #1 (Total Weight: 10000)
- x1 Supreme Weapon Essence (7% - 700)
- x4 Revenant Medallion (80% - 8000)
- x3 Revenant Medallion (13% - 1300)
* Lot #2 (Total Weight: 10000)
- x15 Knickknack Voucher (50% - 5000)
- x17 Knickknack Voucher (30% - 3000)
- x20 Knickknack Voucher (20% - 2000)
omg 3% for the supreme essence on s+
@ryechew were you able to complete the fate episodes? I'm stuck at 3 because it says "progress through main story" which I already beat the game and working on the 8 after missions to move into extreme difficulty.
@@cas48spyder I never had this issue. I dont know what that is. I would assume you have to go beat behemoth at the end of proud because the optional quest count as the story in that message. Or you have to finish Roland's journal if you haven't done that. Dont want to give to many spoilers. Dont know why though. Not sure exactly.
@@jamitiong2978 Yeah its bad but if you add that into the medallion converging its still about 1 every four behemoth fights. Honestly this is way to grindy for a game that doesnt plan on continuing updates after its been out for 3 months
Just wanted to mention something since I didn't see it discussed in the video is the topic of Tweyen's Warpath sigil. It completely changes the way she is played since it massively buffs all of her attacks but only if they are charged, she gets -20% charge time, 20% enhanced damage (meaning it bypasses the damage cap), 30% stun power and a 20% to inflict any debuff if the attack is charged.
Outside of the Warpath the only way she applies her debuffs is through Depravity and given it's long Cooldown you aren't able to use it very often to keep debuffs applied for Clincher since Clinchers damage is increase based on the number of debuffs on the target. So you ideally want to be charging as many of her attacks as possible for both the debuff application on top of the fact that it does like 4x as much damage as a un-charged attack given how it has enhanced damage.
This also means that running alpha sigils has no effect on her build since she isn't doing normal attacks, Ideally you want to be sticking with x2 Gamma and x2 Damage Cap+. Just wanted to bring this up since I didn't see it mentioned in the "Builds and Sigils" section of the video. Her change of playstyle offered by her Warpath, like most characters is absolutely essential to dealing good damage with Tweyen.
interesting. But isnt her Multilock hail a normal attack that uses Alpha?
@@ryechew I might actually have to test that, i was under the impression that it was a charged attack from the animation.
@@veliona8920 Well i just assumed actually cause it works with Io's stargaze. now i have to test it to
Man i dont like how Two Crown skill goes on cooldown when you get killed , not sure if its intended or bugged but I will say this if it is intended thats garbo since you can only use the skill once per encounter
No it's intentionally 1 per encounter but makes debunks last almost the whole encounter
Is it supposed to be on cooldown for like a couple minutes before being able to use it? @@ryechew
@@Zzues Yes. Just like Sietes. In the mobile game, all Eternal's 4th skill have a 10 Turn CD at battle start.
@@ryechew what i mean is if its off the start timer and you die it goes back to the start timer again and you can't use it , I know its on cooldown from the beginning
Ohh, thank you! Not sure if I like that, makes sense, kind of but id rather have more skills to use :) @@PotatoRankEX
My runs always drops crowns of lament so i dont think the quest is bugged or idk. What it doesnt drop though is the supreme weapon essence and ive been afking the bahamot quest and get s+.
S++ and selling the medallions was the 4 runs math. I pinned the drop rates in the 1st comment. It's 3% for the s+. Gotta hit those guards
i like it , so i give the like
I appreciate that. I don't mind the dislikes cause it informs me but without information it's largely unhelpful.
I don't think i fought anything yet that survived long enaugh, so that i could actually use Two Crown. Maybe if you play with 3 randoms wich don't know what they do you might be able to use it xD
I hope not haha. you get it once basically but it makes the debuffs last half the mission. which would be good on certain things. But she needs a buff i think.
Currently only behemoth, lucilius, and the robot boss from proud mode survive long enough to let you use the skill. Even bahamut doesn’t live long enough.
@@ryechew I think Two Crown needs to be reworked. I mean if we cant use it before it comes off cooldown pretty much most of the time its just a given up skill slot. And if you somehow actually get to use it... Well the boss is most likely at 20% hp max.. so any other skill wouldve been worth more at this point. Personally i now run Depravity, Clincher, Lethal rain and Peerless Eye.
I so wanna use Two Crown but in its current state its sadly just not worth using 99% of the time :
yeah after playing her more there's bugs and issues. they messed up on her a lot lol
*** update when you die you loose the skill and the cooldown resets...
Don’t forget you get a temporary paralysis buff after SBA
Yeah I should have put masteries in cause no one is going to read 200 nodes lol. That would have been a good idea
@@ryechew no worries great vid regardless
No no thank you for the engagement
I HEAVILY disagree on using Two-Crown's Strife. I'd say it's probably her second worst skill even. While I won't deny it does insane damage, THREE MINUTES of CD on fight start for using it A SINGLE TIME is just not worth it. You're fighting with only 3 skills 99% of the time, and if your team is good you might not even get to use it. I would much rather run one of the two buff skills, or even both if you give up one of the damage skills, they're just more useful overall
I see this point. But honestly a fight even lasts like 8 minutes at max so it's a skill slot to make debuffs last half the match. I get your point though. But buffs don't really do much in this game if everyone has a well built character due to damage cap
its probally to prevent smooth brains from using it too soon and not letting other party member get debuffs up
@@ryechew well, her buffs are useful in a different way. One skill gives her mirror image which can allow you to just facetank while you go shotgun (or well, shotbow) in their face, the other doubles the charge speed of your super shot which leads to more dps
All eternals in the original game has a 4th skill, Two Crown's Strife in her case, which is on a 10T cooldown before you can use it. So I guess that's the way they implement the initial 10T lock out.
I guess but i dont want it to suck just because of story line purposes
nice video
Thanks for the visit and the engagement. It helps
i was able to get crown drops w/o the trophy claim, the drop rate is just low
So it's 30% for crowns I didn't get one for 9 runs at first wich I guess was just bad drop rates for me. Game hates me lol
hi friend seofen guide next if u can im totaly lost
I can it just takes a long time you know. I have to get him then use him lol
Here early, love her!
Isn't she great!!! I'm gonna miss this game
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How do you get the awakening sigil, by transmuting it?
yes the transmarvel option in the knick nack shop
Damn. 7 Hours after release and a tutorial for Tweyen huh.
Yeah im sure someone in the next three days or so will find a way to break her though and ille have to post edit my video lol
We already got something of an "best" Build? Not that i need it before i did 30+ Runs for the Mats
Yeah best builds are unnecessary honestly. I've already done a lot of stuff with her
@@ryechew Well, then i try to use your Build as good as i can rn
its just when you go to DMG cap. Like how are you going to get more damage. you arent lol
do we know if we can get the warpath sigil with a substat?
i used 500+ trans sig that I stored and did not get any warpath, but I got the new char awakened sigils at least .-.
I opened 350 transmarvels and got zero warpaths but idk
One in four runs?! I played for about six seven hours when it dropped and the only time I got one as a drop is on my first clear.
did you transmute the medalions in treasure trade. I should have said thats part of the 1 in 4 runs
@@ryechew I did treasure trade em as soon as I had enough. I was thinking straight drops.
@@ryanharland5787they only have a chance to drop if you get an s or better. And even then is low. S++ has an additional chance to have them drop.
3 and 5% percent respectively
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Nono thank you for the engagement!!
It's sad there only one more update left!!! :(
I know its a fun game but its kinda dead after bahamut. if you cant onlinematch make you cant play the game or at least dont want to
@@ryechew that's true... I did find myself struggling but I prefer playing with people:)
Dont we all!! its way more fun to do so. this game is like almost monster hunter. lol
Do i need to buy dlc to get her, as i am in postage and I don't see it in treasure trade
No. The DLC should be just an update.
It should be a card but try beating behemoth first and get the Supreme weapon esscence
Is he using gammas? I cant tell cause the resolution is so low
I was using alpha's. the video on YT takes a long time to render for small content creators thats why when you see a new video its very pixelated for a couple hours.
Why is her attack very low?
Is it because she doesn't have other weapons masteries?
Isn't it unfair?
pretty much, when you look at every weapons passive you unlock you notice theres a huge amount given, let alone crits too, the eternals being only able to have 2 weapons does limit how much stats you actually have
It's because your supposed to have a maxed out ascension weapon and the two crowned sigil. Then her attack will be the same.
@ryechew I am not so sure. On characters like Narmaya, the max attack with a fully awakened terminus weapon would be around 6.5k. They got huge buffs in the form of special sigils in this patch.
On the other hand, the eternals need to waste a slot just to get terminus weapon passive.
@@theversatilegenius91if your Narmaya only has 6.5k with a maxed terminus you did something wrong. Without the two crown sigil my tweyen is already at 8k and has no sigils that directly increase attack.
The raw attack of a character doesn’t matter at all if they are hitting damage cap. And tweyen actually has really high modifiers on her charged moves and skills making her hit damage cap easily. With just crit rate and concentrated fire she almost hits the cap. So once the weapon is fully awakened I’ll likely be able to drop the attack up skill for the stout heart one.
@SH1NK1R01 Thanks for the info. I was talking about only weapon raw attack power of 6.5k, not total. I will try to see if she can hit the damage cap like you said.
Also, which special sigils are you using on her? I think her warpath and boundary sigils are much better than her awakening÷.
u think shes good as a support?
As a CC yes but she has no buffs so can't replace Caggly or Rosetta so she could have more specialized. Good yes if I was to add her in the tier list she'd get a B as a character. Great but two many scenarios happen that make her Debuffs useless. Like they she'd all those debuffs in blood rage so what's the point of having the debuff extender only happen once a match
Ok this upgrade made me drop the game gonna platinum i have to finish only the story again…
U dont just have to farm as hell like its bahamut just for recruit her i took 2 hour rng wasnt good then i find she doesnt have other weapon and her best sigils are locked again behind the super tedious farm for behemot so yeah no thx from the trailer i really like her but dawn her dps sucks compared to others lol
Was expecting less tedious farm but no sorry after 150 hour already this is too much cuz she underwhelming and have to waste a sigil for her became a terminus come on im out
I definitely understand this feeling. I have 400 hours in this game and sandolphon is the last update. a lot of new players are going to like the game a lot more. and i bet the drop rates dramatically increase in the next two months
No I get this point of view honestly. its really like 40-60 behemoth fights just for her terminus sigil and ascension weapon and you loose a sigil slot and the game has no players anymore
They made these new characters for endgame players. Not players starting this game.
Well you can't even get them till your at endgame unless you 5 dollars lol. But yes they did. It's sad they don't plan to keep the game updated but it was fun. Not every game needs to consume years of my life I guess
@@ryechew Are you saying you can buy them?
You can start farming for her as soon as you reach extreme what are you talking about. And you can play with the new characters in story mode or something like they said in the livestream
@@Ribbonzarkuraspear New players aren't in extreme, they are set for players that are in end game farming. I'm barely at 6k right now with everyone unlocked but the 2 new ones. So by their unlocking of characters, I should be able to get them right now.
@@Ribbonzarkuraspear so the extreme mission gives you 2 to 4 of the medallions. you would need 90 just to get the cards then would not be able to get the ascension weapon. I gues you can but it isnt really viable. Unless you need fortitude shards why do a quest nearly 30 times just to get 1 character. It would be faster to go in the streets and sell lemonade till you made 5 dollars i think.
It's been a day, how do you know the ins and outs already? You don't, wait for longer next time or it makes you look silly.
Silly how exactly? Did he get anything wrong? Did you notice him using her wrong, or a better way of using her? If so, might want to include that in your comment, if not, kindly quit your yapping.
I said in the video after people learned to break her I get better I could do advanced techniques. But she really isn't complicated. She will have an optimal damage rotation like everyone's else that won't work against most monsters cause baralt doesn't turn the field into a bullet storm.
Like (xxyxyy++)+ reginleiv+surge+decimate+ armor break is the damage rotation for the captain but good luck not getting treated like a door mat against lucilius like that.
She is simple and if you aren't maxing her debunks you might as well play a different character lol.