I try to learn to fly 3D for the first time.. Rip my GoPro
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- Опубликовано: 2 апр 2020
- So as you know, I almost only fly drones "right side up" -- that is the props and motors are only pushing air down one direction. In this video, I explore how had it is to fly 3D mode and fly the drone upside down. @ZoeFPV and @captainvanover inspired me to try it on a recent @RotorRiot trip to San Diego, and I'm excited to have a go. I think that this is going to end up being part 1 of a multi-part series, since it's going to take a minute to learn how to fly well enough to make something interesting.
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Great attempt young grasshopper. Many batteries left before the student becomes the master. *bows in honor*
*bows back*
Ms. Miyagi teach us your ways.
Probably the most excited I've ever been scrolling to hopefully see zoes comment on this. much love yall, and also loving the "quarantine videos" lately nurk mad props
Dear Nurk, dont even try it , only a woman"s mind can make sense of such madness ; )
Zoe is 3D FPV Royalty
i use a self centering stick for 3D just to make it easier on my brain.
I started on 3d heli and would love to try 3d FPV. Thanks for the raw share of your experience.
I recognize that howling sound! Same as when one of my props was mounted wrong side up.
That is FUN watching Nurk on the learning curve!
Awesome fun video. Very smooth transitions and upside down flights, especially for first timer. Thanks for all the fun videos. Shows me what's possible. I'm still working on normal flips and rolls. Happy flying 💖🤓
I can definitely see how you’re a professional, you picked that up so quickly!!
What do you guys think about flying 3D? Have you tried it? Was it harder or easier than you expected?
Yeah definatly Cool😁
Zoe released a vid the other day using standard props. 2 normal 2 reversed, might be worth a go😉
Was hoping you would make it look really easy, then at least I might have a chance of not destroying all my stuff😂
Cheaters allowed to comment?
I've flown it for a while, on a 3" and a 5". Posted a few videos to my channel. Works best with cam at zero, but that never really let me flow. Still super awesome to cruise upside down between trees.
I am totally hooked on it. I never fly regular. I'm not boasting. It was very hard at first. But after a while, it becomes natural. Practice practice practice. 3D forever!!! There are sooo many things you can do with it that you cant do with 2D quads. 3D forever!!!
Have you tried doing a bungee jump? Basically a dive from a tower or building then max reverse right before hitting the ground going same way back up 😬
this is what Ive been waiting for ! awesome video , great flight
Now i'm glad i started with 6Ch Heli , and Eleven years after that , i saw Some of Your Video . Now here i'm ... On The Drone. xd
Excellent!!! I got very excited watching you go through the gap between trees. Very happy to see the pros are entering 3D world. Can't wait next episode.
That's the goal right? Gotta make a story out of it so that we together get to share in the excitement!
This was really fun. I love watching people try 3D for the first time.
Was fun to watch you give it a shot. Good job too. Especially w those props lol.
Dude you actually did really good at your first attempt at 3D , i know when i tried it it was disastrous and i never tried again lol , awesome bro 👍👍
Damn bro - That was an amazing run in 3D. Looks like you're genuinely having a good time 😷👍
I have been having a blast trying all these new things!
Great video thanks for the inspiration and knowledge... waiting to get my first fpv drone, just got the mavic mini a few months ago
Good on you for having the courage to learn new things even if it's super difficult! Your workbench stresses me out though DX
LMAO! That intro was great! I have found the best way to start is line of site to recognize throttle points and then go in the goggles. After that, we only stay inverted for .5 to 2 seconds then get upright. Do that untill you are a pro, then try other things like hovering inverted, forward and backwards flight. Then you will be flying 3D DamFast!
I loved watching this! I guess, I will need to convert one of mine also! thanks for this inspirational video
Looked like a good time. I've often wondered if I would like 3D due to loving to fly 3D helis back in the day, hum? Enjoy the Breeze...👍🏻🍻👊🏻
So fun to watch..I have a couple sets of the Zoe 3d props but figure I'll do the sim thing first in Liftoff ..cheaper and less repair time trying to get used to flying upside down using throttle like a collective pitch heli...😷
If you don’t have any 3d props. You can turn the props upside down on motor 1&4 , It will help with thrust when inverted.
Awesome video Paul 🤟🏽
Perfect Video for me! Legit just got my Zurple 3D Props in the mail yesterday, gonna set it up today and fly it tomorrow. Ordered 4 sets, because I'm sure I'll have plenty of crashes in my future.
That!!! Scream!!! When you flip over is crazy insane
Woah! You are a quick learner! Keep pushing the 3D! 3D forever!! This niche hobby needs to grow!
i got some 3d props in today- i'll give it another shot but with more control this time!
Thanks for making cool content dude.
I really want to see 3d used more cinematically, I think the potential to hardstop certain movements will look really cool and provide unique shots
Hello i just learn fpv on simulator, do u think i need to learn 3d mode ? i want to learn fpv for cinematic goal so ?
You are nuts flying so close to you. I'll probably be hiding in a baseball dugout whenever I try 3d. Lol! Great job man!
I just started 3d too! Crazy awesome!
3D is amazing! Must have!
After watching this Video, it's inspired me to try 3D Flying. The throttle is the thing I bet gets everyone confused when starting, but great video Nurk!
Give it a go and report back how you do!
Supper nice.
So cool. Gotta build me a 3D rig now!
That looks really challenging!!
So sick! I not gonna lie, i scrolled down in search of Zoe Fpv comment.. 😅😁
Oh hai ;)
What? The legendary 3D Queen is here.. 😱
haha was about to say - she's around here somewhere..
You`ll make it, you´re the best XD
Great video... thank you! There is so much potential with 3D to make mind blowing videos... when are we going to be seeing 3D bandos on a regular base?
Great job,,throttle management will be easier especially inverted with 3D props. When doing freestyle I sometimes get so disoriented all I see is blue sky so I set up a bailout switch which basicaly goes to angle mode with added throttle programmed for a mild to moderate climb till I get my orientation back. I practice Line of Sight too which is useful.
Craaack 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Nice
Nice sticker on the TX!
Really nice for a first try. Just need them props and your set. Should of tried the 2 upside down props like Zoe did. But still can't tell if it was actually an April fool's or not lol
I'm torn. I'm a commercial Heli/private fixed wing pilot, currently grounded, and just beginning my FPV journey. I'm hoping to have my first quad soon. Having watched the few 3d videos (yours, Zoe's, Rotor Riot's), I'm 90% sure that the secret I learned to inverted flying will translate to flying quads. However I don't want to give it away before I'm 100% sure and I am hoping to focus on 3d flying, so who knows, it might be my claim to fame in the FPV world :P. I'll try to get a 3d capable quad as soon as I can so that I can share with the world if the physics line up.
How goes your fpv journey, sir?
I'll go change the setting of my FC firmware and ESC's and try ^^
Great start Nurk. I'm guessing by the sound you used standard props for that first flight as when inverted it was screaming with such a loud screech. If you really want to get more practice while inside get yourself something like a Flourien H101, they are well cheap and toy grade but it will give you a better way to get used to the controls, or you can use Liftoff and fly inverted without a real life drone.
So like, for altitude management.......when you switch to 3d and set a throttle expo, does it apply it to both throttle ranges? or do you get a seperate one for each? or do you have just a big squiggly line in the throttle expo graph????????
Nice. Now push the industries to focus more on 3D. :D Need to start flying my 3" inn 3D. :D
Zoe just posted about flipping two props upside down (on opposite corners) so you get equal positive and negative thrust with non-3d props. Might be worth trying.
Chris Bertrand 🤣🤣🤣
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@@luckymefpv real shit dude. She meant it as an April fools joke, but it actually works.
I get like I've been building 3-D helicopters all my life I fly drones now I have not known that drones had the ability to fly inverted I now need a 3-D drone thanks for this
Is it a thing where you can put it on a switch for normal thrust/3d to maintain throttle throw/resolution? Instead of the half and half. That would be cool.
I would like advice on which new radio to buy today. i have a tinyhack, but later i will buy a digital system (vr dji and whoop hd). I'm undecided whether to be on the safe side and therefore a frsky x9d pro or on a radiomaster tx16s or jumper t16 pro. the radiomaster looks tempting for the price, but I don't know if to trust it. also because around there are videos showing the radiomaster tx tsg8 model which is poorly assembled and lacks components compared to the t8sg jumper. others say that frsky is an obsolete radio, so it has been announced that updates will no longer be released about 3 months ago. so what to buy?
i feel like the software correcting stick orientation when you are upside down would help so much !!!
Sykk vid kidd👊🏾
Where are all the people??? How is it possible that such huge green field is empty of any person? In my place, even in the desert you don't have a privacy))) Very nice video!!
Is there any special esc for 3d or can i do the same with my mamba F405 MK2 + F40?
Would you recommend the DJI system for freestyle?
Can I ask a question you know vr with the 360 camera could there not be a vr drone so when you fly you can look up down left right as if you sitting ir riding the drone would that not make it crazy real just wondering because you could upload and other people could ride along and while you did the flying I could put on vr look up down left etc that wot I would call realD flying
Try flipping two props upside down and leave the other two right side up. Equal thrust booth directions. No 3D props needed. Boom!
the reverse throttle sounded like a choo choo train
Quick question. Would neutral throttle be in the middle position now instead of the bottom? Thank you. Food for thought; This could be a new challenge in certain legs of a drone race.
There is no way I'd have the co-ordination to do that, it's hard enough not crashing in "normal" mode !
I'd need a different control scheme if I ever really get into 3d. My best experience with it so far is on the sim using a steam controller. Gyro tilt assigned to pitch/roll, left thumbpad yaw, then left trigger for positive thrust and right for negative.. I've yet to find a way to use a steam controller on a physical copter
Nice flying for first 2 batteries. Watch out Zoe Fpv 😮
3D is my fave. A whole nother dimension to twist your brain cells :)
3D is something Ive thought about and think that it could be the most complete freedom of flying a drone but I just don't want to feel like a noob again and I haven't even achieved what I want to flying normal.
Old Bullnose Probs also work fine in 3D
Maybe I'm crazy but wouldn't centering springs be a good idea for 3d tx's
i'm learning 3d too. QUICK TIP - set your throttle using a pot. I turn mine down to 70% and make good progress.
My motors just seemed to shut down. Any clues where I set up wrong. Admittedly I didn't change any deadband in motors tab or reciever bc idk. Betaflight 4.3.2
I thought it was pretty interesting that another RUclips channel released a 12s quad video 1 day before Nurk did
I'd imagine somewhere on the way to Nurk's house right now, there is a postal truck toting some Zoe Zurple Gemfan 3D Props. When they seen the name Nurkkala on the order, they went into their secret stash and got out some of the props with the extra Unicorn dust in them that adds +100 magic GoPro crash protection. Looking forward to more 3D vids!
So where do you break your gopro in the video?
So cool nurk try me 3d fpv again!!
do your batteries get killed faster on that setup since the props arent as efficient upside down?
yes, that, and stopping and starting the props in the air also
Do you think setting the throttle gimbal up to self center would help?
good thought - I have no idea tbh
Props won't come off when throttled upside down??
Hi Nurk, is it possible to bind a dji BNF flywoo with a transmeter jumper tsg8 v2 plus?? (multiprotocol)
Thank you
dji air unit can only be bound to dji remotes
@@clinicallymanic hi, according to drone camp, it can be bind with an multiprotocol, its an rx as any else, only the unit air works with dji goggle.
I need a liquid cooled setup i live in Arizona and fly every day is this possible ? Menace
WOW, IF >>YOU
Would it be beneficial to have self centering throttle stick ?
Depends. a lot of us use the throttle instead of a pre-arm to keep from accidentally arming. Especially when racing where being able to get back in the air in a timely manner after crashing can make or break you. I keep pretty much the same transmitter setup for freestyle and racing so it's easier to swap between the 2.
I think it's all just a matter of getting used to it ya know?
Would flying 3D possibly affect your normal racing ? Muscle memory get thrown off maybe ?
That should be soooooo weird at the first lipos 😂
The next level of freestyle, git gud blackbird :p
Screw around with it in Liftoff first, 3D props are not hard FPV (wouldn't do it myself LOS) and no sacrificing real life parts to build up the skillz. Spring load your throttle back to center, that's probably my biggest problem because I'm too lazy to do it. When you want to kill all throttle your motor memory has you slamming the stick all the way down, which is of course all the way in reverse, so you need that spring back to center on throttle. Changing your motor memory that throttle center is zero throttle is probably the hardest barrier to get around.
3D is fun but not as useful as one would think it would be (yet! anyway), mostly because of camera angle. If I had multiple cameras and camera angles, it would be way more flyable. With only one camera stuck at an angle of 45, I end up going back to Acro mode for relaxing cruising with more throttle travel and therefore throttle resolution under and around tree trunks.
Add more front facing cameras to a 3D quad, esp. a beast class, and you have one aerobatic monster. Try setting your cam angle at 0 for 3D aerobatics, see if that helps. Otherwise like with my favorite 45 cam angle, reverse actually has you going down AND backwards (visually in the view finder).
Really for 3D flying what we need, is a video feed like the old skool full page displays, with the 0 angle centerline splitting the middle of the screen. That way to fly fast with tilt forward, your eyes can move to the top of the screen... to fly fast backwards at tile, your eyes visually can move down to the bottom of the screen. I'm theorizing but I think it might work. So I'd be trying to build some wild custom ground station to fly 3D out of a flatpanel computer display turned 90 degrees and sunshade:
www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1536&bih=707&ei=a8uLXvfuHOPr_Qa-7byYCA&q=full+page+display&oq=full+page+display
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Before trying to thread between things try turning upside down and doing orbits since theoretically your turn ing is reversed as well
Is the pitch and roll the same when flying upside down or are they reversed too?
Serious? What do you think?
Jeffrey Schouten erm yes, I usually fly planes inverted and it's the same way, but I've never flown a quad 3D, so instead of a sarcastic condescending remark, how's about you tell me the answer...
🤯
Cant understand what is it for flying upside down??
I want that dog sticker on your radio. Where can I get it?!
whats that sticker on your tx
What's next Paul 3D pitch heli 👌
🤟🏾
A dive upside down then stalling at the bottom and reversing back up through something would be sick af
Definitely going to be experimenting with it a little bit.
Oh my
what is the prefered camera uptilt for 3D?
Good question. I just ran normal, but I wonder if I should have just ran 0
@@NURKFPV inverted camera is lookig into the ground so may be 0 heheh that is crazy :)
Seriously... zoe did this and it works. Flip any 2 diagonally opposite prop upside down. It will fly so much better with non 3d props.
i will try it out!
@@NURKFPV I assume you've seen her video about it. Was supposed to be an April fools joke but the joke was on her because it actually worked. 🤣🤣🤣
Sounds like a screaming Banshee 😂
Is 3D bad for the esc or any other components or not
nope
Do you see people racing with this in the future?
You probably have lots of GoPro :-) interesting! Not sure it adds much to the flying, shooting upside down is rarely better.
Two questions: Is 3D legal in racing and would using it for turns improve lap times due to not having to 'flip over'? For example doing "S" turns without having to roll to the other side... or not having to flip over to complete a Split S...Hmm....