Nice review! Your summary helped me in terms of buying advice. I went through so much reading and review videos (Keysight, Siglent, Rigol, etc) but couldn't make up my mind. Your summary made things clearer for me. - Thank you!
Nice video! Comments on a couple items: 1 Mpts per channel = 4 Mpbs total. Not the biggest around but generally not a complaint we hear from folks. For the ADC, it's also important to look at total noise floor and "effective number of bits" aka ENOB. Looking at the ADC spec alone can be very misleading. There's a deeper video on our channel about it. Calibration is mainly about traceability requirements for certifications or other design & test requirements. Edit: link for the ADC video is ruclips.net/video/BVJ_p8xac7s/видео.html
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Got my new Keysight DSOX1202G today. Out of the box and looking at 60 Hz free space EMI in about 3 minutes; it is that easy to use. I spent months of intensive study trying to decide which scope to get and Keysight is a cut above the other entry-level scopes. I haven't tried any of the others (Rigol, Siglent) so I cannot really say where this is superior to those but it's pretty solid. It also has genuine metering, a built-in voltmeter and frequency counter in addition to the computation of volts and frequency based on the sampled data (which they all have that capability). The built-in signal generator (function generator) was important selling point; Bode plots, FFT. The FFT works exceptionally well and easy enough to figure out without a college degree.
Hi Shawn! I was missing your videos! In my opinion, one of the best electronics/maker channels on youtube. Excellent aesthetics and organization of the videos, quality content and presented in a very didactic way. You make your own style! Thanks for everything! ^^
I like your videos. They do not make my eyes glaze over. Very interesting and understandable for a beginner. I also like your Sparkfun videos. Keep 'em coming. Thanks!
Hello shawn, your video on the Keysight DSOX1204G is the first video I've seen of of any of your vids. Let me just comment that I am considering the DSOX1204G as well but not because it's a Keysight scope, though it's true they Keysight is the Rolls-Royce of scopes, at least for their more expensive models. In any case, one of the extremely useful features of the 1204G , and also of the less costy 1202G, is that both models can perform BODE plotting. Anyone who has created a BODE plot the usual way knows how time consuming and tedious it can be. And creating a POOR-MANS BODE PLOT is possible with even an ordinary analog scope, if you know how to do it. But imagine being able to create a real BODE plot, right on the scope's screen, with vertical and horizontal axis labeled with values, etc. and without any additional external gear is quite a feature to have and it can save a tremendous amount of time when trying to generate frequency amplitude response vs. frequency. Add to that the ability to take screen shots or transfer the pot or save it to a USB stick as well and it's akin to dying and going to heaven. So your comparison on the basis of price alone is not a true picture of what you're getting with the 1204G or the 1202G scopes. And I should state upfront that I don't work for Keysight. But I think It would have been instructive and a better comparison to mention the BODE plot measurement feature and perhaps demo it. In addition, though most digital scopes have an FFT function (some better than others) again, it would have been informative to sample a SQUARE wave and show how well the harmonics are resolved. Now if there's another video where you dig into the 1204G in depth I'm not aware of it, and I'd love to see it and know what the link is. Otherwise, thanks for a clean, straightforward and comprehensible review, without grunts, or other odd anomalies - and above all, without extremely annoying background music. Thanks, I look forward to your other videos.
Thanks for the info! I had no idea the 1204G could do a Bode plot...I haven't had to do one of those since college I think, but it does seem like a useful feature. Next time I show an FFT, I'll make sure to show a square wave so folks can see the harmonics!
Thanks for your reply Shawn: Yes, the BODE plot is extremely useful for FRA, especially if you do work in the audio range. However, the 1204G is not the only scope with a BODE plot feature. The GW Insteck 2000E and 2000X series also can do BODE plots, and what sets these off from all other similar scopes is that while the have the usual FFT math function that most digital scopes have these days, the 2000e/x series also have a full-function Spectrum Analyzer. In addition both also have a 2-channel AWG. The GW Instek MDO-2204EG (4 channels) costs around $1530 ~ $ 1750 depending on where you get it. The MDO-2204EX (also 4 channels) in addition to having a full Spectrum Analyzer, 2-Ch ARB, BODE Plotting, it also has a 5V/1a power supply (useful for light bread-boarding), and a Digital Multi-meter. Quite a lot of bang for the buck. The MDO-2204EX is around $1850 ~ $1950 depending on where you purchase from. I've seen -some of the capabilities of the MDO-2204EG and its Spectrum Analyzer alone is incredibly useful, having a 1 Hz resolution. What I have not seen is how well it does a BODE plot. So if you revisit the 1204G it would be even more interesting to compare it with the Instek 2204EG (4 channels) or the Instek 2202EG (same capabiities but with 2 channels). Thanks again. I look forward to your other videos.
Hello Shawn, I am just curious whether you can set the input impedance to 50 Ohms. It's important because I am planning to play with analog 100MHz signals ... maybe if you read this further ... I struggle with decision what's better...the Keysight DSO1202A or the Rigol MSO2202A ... both have 200MHz bandwith and 2Gs/s, I am trying to figure out, which one has better resources for more precise FFT. For the Rigol they literally mention "1M/50ohm input", meanwhile for the Keysight I cant find this expression in available doc ... and all my HF/RF experiments are linked to 50ohm. So, if you still have the osci on your desk, could you check the options for the channel input settings ? Thank you
I think it's just a static 1M. I found the 1204G datasheet, and it says it there, too. You might be better off with the Rigol if it supports the 50 Ohm input impedance.
The idea is to use a 50 ohm pass-through and that's because there's likely some power that needs to be dissipated. I have two of them and the 5 watt 50 ohm has fins to dissipate the heat. If you are working on radio transmitters you may need to sink 100 or more watts; but going into the scope itself, you don't want that kind of power. So essentially all scopes require an external 50 ohm passthrough device.
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I wanted to buy one as hobbyist but was told by one of their distributors (in the UK) that was not allowed to buy as an individual!!!!!!! Furious.......
That stinks :( Could you order one from another distributor (e.g. www.mouser.com/c/?q=Keysight%20DSOX1204G), even if it means you have to pay for international shipping?
@@ShawnHymel Thanks for reply Shawn. Looked at the UK branch of Mouser and no stock till 23 December. Shipping prices are horrific from over the pond. But think I have just found another supplier .
The Keysight will be better: snappier controls and a calibration certificate. Do you need those things as a student? Is it worth paying twice as much for them? If I was a student, I'd use my student discount to get the Analog Discovery 2 (assuming you can find one in stock). With the BNC adapter board and probes, it has almost the same bandwidth as either of those scopes, and it's got a ton of extra stuff like a function generator, logic analyzer, and voltage supplies. However, if need more than 5V for those features (for labs), they won't help much. The tiny size and portability does make it nice to throw it in your backpack, though.
@@ShawnHymel Sir, Thanks a lot for the time taken to reply. I've watched your video now I've realized that I missed the part that related to analog discovery 2. I looked around for it and as you said it will be much more useful for me. Thanks again.
Million dollar scope is squad goals :P Agreed that $2k is really reasonable for a brand name scope with full traceability. Many hobbyists will balk at it, though.
Definitely cheaper than tektronix. They are ridiculously expensive. Lowest end scope at 2.5kpts, 8 bits, 100 MHz at more than 800 bucks. No thank you, I will just stick to keysight 1000g series. Keysight definitely sells a lot cheaper.
Nice review! Your summary helped me in terms of buying advice. I went through so much reading and review videos (Keysight, Siglent, Rigol, etc) but couldn't make up my mind. Your summary made things clearer for me. - Thank you!
Nice video! Comments on a couple items:
1 Mpts per channel = 4 Mpbs total. Not the biggest around but generally not a complaint we hear from folks.
For the ADC, it's also important to look at total noise floor and "effective number of bits" aka ENOB. Looking at the ADC spec alone can be very misleading. There's a deeper video on our channel about it.
Calibration is mainly about traceability requirements for certifications or other design & test requirements.
Edit: link for the ADC video is ruclips.net/video/BVJ_p8xac7s/видео.html
Sweet, thank you! Do you have a link to that ADC video?
@@ShawnHymel just added it to the original comment
@@ShawnHymel ruclips.net/video/BVJ_p8xac7s/видео.html
Thanks in part to this channel I have just ordered a DSOX1202G. They seem to be scarce right now. That signifies popular. Popular usually means good.
Respected *Shawn Hymel* sir,
I am a student, and literally the way you have teached electricity and electromagnetism is infinite wonderful!❤️ You have given us knowledge in the best way which nobody has ever given to us!
In india , teachers don't teach us correctly, they just make. Us gulp the text written in the book.
I request you teacher Shawn hymel that please try to teach us more physics like that you did in past(electricity, electromagnetism)
I know making more such videos will take a lot of effort! But please try to help,
Hope you will reply sir🙏🙏🙏👍❤️😁
Got my new Keysight DSOX1202G today. Out of the box and looking at 60 Hz free space EMI in about 3 minutes; it is that easy to use. I spent months of intensive study trying to decide which scope to get and Keysight is a cut above the other entry-level scopes.
I haven't tried any of the others (Rigol, Siglent) so I cannot really say where this is superior to those but it's pretty solid. It also has genuine metering, a built-in voltmeter and frequency counter in addition to the computation of volts and frequency based on the sampled data (which they all have that capability). The built-in signal generator (function generator) was important selling point; Bode plots, FFT. The FFT works exceptionally well and easy enough to figure out without a college degree.
I have won one of these dsox1240Gs from a giveaway. I found this very helpful to see what it can do, thank you!
Grats! It's a good scope :)
Hi Shawn! I was missing your videos!
In my opinion, one of the best electronics/maker channels on youtube. Excellent aesthetics and organization of the videos, quality content and presented in a very didactic way. You make your own style!
Thanks for everything! ^^
Thank you! I'm really glad to hear you like them!
I like your videos. They do not make my eyes glaze over. Very interesting and understandable for a beginner. I also like your Sparkfun videos. Keep 'em coming. Thanks!
Thank you! I'm glad you enjoy them!
Finally you got an awesome scope, glad to know. You can now start working on some awesome stuff waiting for your next video
Hello Shawn, see you again after a long time. I love your videos about electronics(on sparkfun electronics). Good work man 👍
Thanks! I'm hoping to start doing more for my own channel :)
One thing worth noting is how fast these Keysight scopes are, unlike most digital abortions.
Hello shawn, your video on the Keysight DSOX1204G is the first video I've seen of of any of your vids. Let me just comment that I am considering the DSOX1204G as well but not because it's a Keysight scope, though it's true they Keysight is the Rolls-Royce of scopes, at least for their more expensive models. In any case, one of the extremely useful features of the 1204G , and also of the less costy 1202G, is that both models can perform BODE plotting. Anyone who has created a BODE plot the usual way knows how time consuming and tedious it can be. And creating a POOR-MANS BODE PLOT is possible with even an ordinary analog scope, if you know how to do it. But imagine being able to create a real BODE plot, right on the scope's screen, with vertical and horizontal axis labeled with values, etc. and without any additional external gear is quite a feature to have and it can save a tremendous amount of time when trying to generate frequency amplitude response vs. frequency. Add to that the ability to take screen shots or transfer the pot or save it to a USB stick as well and it's akin to dying and going to heaven. So your comparison on the basis of price alone is not a true picture of what you're getting with the 1204G or the 1202G scopes. And I should state upfront that I don't work for Keysight. But I think It would have been instructive and a better comparison to mention the BODE plot measurement feature and perhaps demo it. In addition, though most digital scopes have an FFT function (some better than others) again, it would have been informative to sample a SQUARE wave and show how well the harmonics are resolved. Now if there's another video where you dig into the 1204G in depth I'm not aware of it, and I'd love to see it and know what the link is. Otherwise, thanks for a clean, straightforward and comprehensible review, without grunts, or other odd anomalies - and above all, without extremely annoying background music. Thanks, I look forward to your other videos.
Thanks for the info! I had no idea the 1204G could do a Bode plot...I haven't had to do one of those since college I think, but it does seem like a useful feature. Next time I show an FFT, I'll make sure to show a square wave so folks can see the harmonics!
Thanks for your reply Shawn: Yes, the BODE plot is extremely useful for FRA, especially if you do work in the audio range. However, the 1204G is not the only scope with a BODE plot feature. The GW Insteck 2000E and 2000X series also can do BODE plots, and what sets these off from all other similar scopes is that while the have the usual FFT math function that most digital scopes have these days, the 2000e/x series also have a full-function Spectrum Analyzer. In addition both also have a 2-channel AWG. The GW Instek MDO-2204EG (4 channels) costs around $1530 ~ $ 1750 depending on where you get it. The MDO-2204EX (also 4 channels) in addition to having a full Spectrum Analyzer, 2-Ch ARB, BODE Plotting, it also has a 5V/1a power supply (useful for light bread-boarding), and a Digital Multi-meter. Quite a lot of bang for the buck. The MDO-2204EX is around $1850 ~ $1950 depending on where you purchase from. I've seen -some of the capabilities of the MDO-2204EG and its Spectrum Analyzer alone is incredibly useful, having a 1 Hz resolution. What I have not seen is how well it does a BODE plot. So if you revisit the 1204G it would be even more interesting to compare it with the Instek 2204EG (4 channels) or the Instek 2202EG (same capabiities but with 2 channels). Thanks again. I look forward to your other videos.
Hello Shawn,
I am just curious whether you can set the input impedance to 50 Ohms. It's important because I am planning to play with analog 100MHz signals ...
maybe if you read this further ... I struggle with decision what's better...the Keysight DSO1202A or the Rigol MSO2202A ... both have 200MHz bandwith and 2Gs/s,
I am trying to figure out, which one has better resources for more precise FFT. For the Rigol they literally mention "1M/50ohm input", meanwhile for the Keysight
I cant find this expression in available doc ... and all my HF/RF experiments are linked to 50ohm.
So, if you still have the osci on your desk, could you check the options for the channel input settings ?
Thank you
I think it's just a static 1M. I found the 1204G datasheet, and it says it there, too. You might be better off with the Rigol if it supports the 50 Ohm input impedance.
The idea is to use a 50 ohm pass-through and that's because there's likely some power that needs to be dissipated. I have two of them and the 5 watt 50 ohm has fins to dissipate the heat. If you are working on radio transmitters you may need to sink 100 or more watts; but going into the scope itself, you don't want that kind of power. So essentially all scopes require an external 50 ohm passthrough device.
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Great video!
Thanks!
I wanted to buy one as hobbyist but was told by one of their distributors (in the UK) that was not allowed to buy as an individual!!!!!!! Furious.......
That stinks :( Could you order one from another distributor (e.g. www.mouser.com/c/?q=Keysight%20DSOX1204G), even if it means you have to pay for international shipping?
@@ShawnHymel Thanks for reply Shawn. Looked at the UK branch of Mouser and no stock till 23 December. Shipping prices are horrific from over the pond. But think I have just found another supplier .
Hi Sir, I'm undergrad student and I'll decide between keysight edux1052G and rigol ds1054. Which one can you recommend ?
The Keysight will be better: snappier controls and a calibration certificate. Do you need those things as a student? Is it worth paying twice as much for them? If I was a student, I'd use my student discount to get the Analog Discovery 2 (assuming you can find one in stock). With the BNC adapter board and probes, it has almost the same bandwidth as either of those scopes, and it's got a ton of extra stuff like a function generator, logic analyzer, and voltage supplies. However, if need more than 5V for those features (for labs), they won't help much. The tiny size and portability does make it nice to throw it in your backpack, though.
@@ShawnHymel Sir, Thanks a lot for the time taken to reply. I've watched your video now I've realized that I missed the part that related to analog discovery 2. I looked around for it and as you said it will be much more useful for me. Thanks again.
where is the 10 MHz reference in this instrument ?!
$2000 is actually pretty cheap for an oscilloscope. Keysight sells $1.2 million dollar oscilloscopes :)
Million dollar scope is squad goals :P Agreed that $2k is really reasonable for a brand name scope with full traceability. Many hobbyists will balk at it, though.
Definitely cheaper than tektronix. They are ridiculously expensive. Lowest end scope at 2.5kpts, 8 bits, 100 MHz at more than 800 bucks. No thank you, I will just stick to keysight 1000g series. Keysight definitely sells a lot cheaper.
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