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  • Опубликовано: 25 ноя 2024

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  • @chazlabreck
    @chazlabreck 3 месяца назад +1

    This video is 10 years old and i'm still learning stuff from your videos. you have left a wonderful time capsule of your skills and work.

  • @stxrynn
    @stxrynn 10 лет назад +2

    Excellent! Once again the lathe proves she is the Queen of the machine shop! I really like the elegant tooling you made. All the little tips on clearances and propping the cutter with another cutter is priceless info. Thank you for this lesson!

  • @Goodwill345
    @Goodwill345 9 месяцев назад +1

    You are amazing sir, camerawork, naming parts, faces, workmanship, creativity everything superb. Thank you

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  9 месяцев назад

      Thank you very much

  • @francismotzko8487
    @francismotzko8487 3 года назад

    Thank you Mr. Pete. I just loved this video. I am a retired old guy with no machinist skills with a Logan lathe I got for Christmas from my son. I will use this method tomorrow on a pulley I enlarged the bore. Now I know I can increase the depth of the keyway slot thanks to your video.

  • @jaycee5584
    @jaycee5584 9 лет назад +2

    Thanks for all the great videos! Used this method today to cut a .100 x 3" long keyway in a threaded 2.25" 1045 steel cylinder rod. Worked out great, took about 10 mins or so for both once the tool was ground and setup.

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  9 лет назад

      Jay Cee Glad it worked for you

  • @lineshaftrestorations7903
    @lineshaftrestorations7903 3 года назад +1

    I used this method to rehab a keyway on an antique DC generator shaft. It was a little more work on steel than zinc.

  • @binness
    @binness 9 лет назад +7

    Halligan142 did this a few years back using a Boring bar, you people certainly can think out of the box, many thanks for all the trouble you go to in order to upload your skills before they are lost forever.

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  9 лет назад +2

      +binness thank for watching

  • @foothillstrailhiker2426
    @foothillstrailhiker2426 7 лет назад

    I absolutely love this video! You cut an internal keyway BY HAND! You didn't even use the power feed. Bravo! Thanks for sharing this.

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  7 лет назад +1

      +Foothills Trail Hiker glad you liked it, thank you for watching

  • @nuisanceneighbour
    @nuisanceneighbour 10 лет назад

    Hi MrPete
    I've heard of this method but never had the privilege of seeing it performed. Thanks for another valuable addition to your library of videos.

  • @AmateurRedneckWorkshop
    @AmateurRedneckWorkshop 10 лет назад +3

    Going to cut an internal 1/8" keyway tomorrow. This is the information I needed. Simple, easy to do and gets results quickly. Thanks again and keep on with the great videos.

  • @Zt3v3
    @Zt3v3 4 года назад

    MR. Pete is the man. Wish he was my shop teacher as a kid.

  • @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
    @andrewdolinskiatcarpathian 6 лет назад

    This newby is truly grateful to you for showing how to cut a keyway on a lathe. Looking forward to putting into practice all I have learned.

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  6 лет назад +1

      Thank you for watching

  • @shannonstebbens6992
    @shannonstebbens6992 6 лет назад

    I just came across this video. 4 years after initial posting it is still providing great teaching input.

  • @grahamspinks4801
    @grahamspinks4801 10 лет назад +1

    Having learn about this technique when I was about 15 I finally got to use it a week ago (I'm 62 now!).It's known as "racking" in the UK.Excellent tutorial as usual.

  • @bigobasementprod.9776
    @bigobasementprod.9776 6 лет назад

    Just when I thought I needed a broach and bam...mrpete shows me how to get'er done! Thank you sir your wisdom is priceless. I learn something new with every video. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!

  • @youth1966truck
    @youth1966truck 10 лет назад +1

    I really like your videos. The machining process has been something that I've always like. We need to start calling you Professor.

  • @rottenbot
    @rottenbot 5 лет назад

    as an absolute novice, you are opening my eyes to how simple things can be done, thank you

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you for watching

  • @guyward5137
    @guyward5137 8 лет назад +4

    Great video. Does your grandson realize how lucky he is to have a front seat in the classroom and the knowledge you have to offer. Luck young man. Guy

  • @sawmill9392
    @sawmill9392 3 года назад

    I never get tired of watching you helpful ideas and videos, thanks very much and keep it up Mr. Pete.

  • @ErnieNoa3
    @ErnieNoa3 10 лет назад

    Thanks for this video. This solves a problem I have had for about a year. I was going to use a similar method to cut a key-way in a drill press step pulley on my lathe. It needed a new motor which had a 5/8 inch shaft and the pulley had a ½ inch shaft. The motor has a key-way that I wanted to use once the pulley hole was enlarged for the new motor shaft. There are some very good points you included that I had not considered. So thanks for the additional tips.

  • @efdgoon
    @efdgoon 10 лет назад +1

    Thanks Mr.pete for such a useful channel. I've truly enjoyed watching your video's. This one was helpful last night. We have a ministry that helps folks that can't afford car repairs get a leg up by repairing their cars at cost or free depending on their needs. Well, we had a keyway blow out and I welded some metal back into it and used your technique to cut the new keyway. (At no cost for a new part.) I'm still learning, so I'll be tuned in.
    Thanks again,
    Jeff

  • @lastmanstandingwtsht
    @lastmanstandingwtsht 10 лет назад +3

    It is said that grey hair is a sign of wisdom and you have proven that once again-fine video.

    • @dougankrum3328
      @dougankrum3328 7 лет назад +1

      I've had white hair now for over 10 years....but I don't seem any smarter or wiser....

  • @stalinbeltran4955
    @stalinbeltran4955 3 года назад

    Thank you mrpete! Now I know how to make things doable with a shaper. This expands the possibilities of my home shop.

  • @jroncallo
    @jroncallo 10 лет назад +2

    Absolutely the most informative videos I have seen. Thanks for posting these.

  • @xanderopal7367
    @xanderopal7367 Год назад

    This is a very helpful video for a very similar project I'm working on. The initial work done to turn the handwheel part to be gripable by the 3-jaw chuck gave me some ideas on how to turn a handwheel I'm working on as well.

  • @davidjames1007
    @davidjames1007 2 года назад

    Thank you Sir, always learning new tips and tricks from your years of experience

  • @incubatork
    @incubatork 5 лет назад +1

    Well explained and i found the video just in time to save me a lot of money on a set of broaches to do 1 job, thanks for sharing as always.

  • @jerrypeal653
    @jerrypeal653 2 года назад +1

    Nicely done

  • @pierresgarage2687
    @pierresgarage2687 10 лет назад +7

    Well detailed, very comprehensive, call it a new ''abroach'' to broaching.
    I've seen lots of your videos, another excellent one...
    Thanks

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  10 лет назад

      That's a good one.With your permission, I'm going to sdd that to the title.

    • @pierresgarage2687
      @pierresgarage2687 10 лет назад

      Sure, go ahead it will fun.
      Cheers,
      Pierre

  • @crabbyfrog
    @crabbyfrog 10 лет назад

    Thanks Mr. Pete! I learn something new with every video you post. Keep them coming.

  • @EVguru
    @EVguru 10 лет назад

    I've done a few keyways like this, even in steel. It's possible to cut splines and even internal gears if you can rig up suitable indexing and plans and kits for such are around (particularly for the Myford lathes). I used a boring bar holder and a jury rigged plunger operated by a lever, to make a slotting attatchment to avoid having to laboriously wind the saddle back and forth. A blind keyway can be done if a hole is drilled for the tool to run-out into.
    I've also used the quill on the mill as a slotting tool. The Mk1 Toyota MR2 has a plastic gear on it's electric window motors. These fit over an existing metal gear to enlarge it (changing a 10 tooth to a 22 tooth as I recall). They break and replacements were not available from Toyota. A friend brought the job to me and we ground up a form tool to cut the internal gear in an off the shelf blank mounted on a rotary table.

  • @jonathanhendry9759
    @jonathanhendry9759 3 года назад +1

    Good to know, I need to do the same to a cast iron handwheel that I bought for the Craftsman 12 I'm fixing up, to replace the missing original.
    I was planning to use a 1/8" carbide cutting bit in a Dremel mounted on the tool post, but I may do this instead.

  • @tonytiger75
    @tonytiger75 10 лет назад +6

    I've done this many times, I've even cut whole gears this way. I needed a pair of 24 tooth change gears for my home lathe so I used the one old one I had as a pattern or index for making a pair of new ones with a tool I ground to produce involute teeth in cast iron.

  • @hakimmic
    @hakimmic 10 лет назад

    I was in the back of the class with Shopdog to. And would like to say to the class mates That The point in todays lesson is not the math but the alternate method of broaching if the proper size broach was not available.
    Thank you. Mr. Pete.

  • @aj9270
    @aj9270 10 лет назад

    Always a pleasure to watch your videos Mr. Pete !

  • @shopdogsam
    @shopdogsam 10 лет назад +16

    ,,, pencil me in,,,,, you may have not seen me in class today,, as someone had taken my regular seat,, but here is a note to let you know that I'm here,, back by the door,,, great lesson,,,,

  • @victorjbarker
    @victorjbarker 10 лет назад +5

    excellent idea! I never thought of doing that

  • @jordanhollowdistillers3703
    @jordanhollowdistillers3703 9 лет назад +2

    Another great vid! Searching for those secrets that were lost, recovered some here!

  • @mark23487
    @mark23487 10 лет назад +1

    I always enjoy your videos. You are a great teacher!

  • @rengankrishnaiyer6912
    @rengankrishnaiyer6912 3 года назад

    Been following many of your videos. I learnt alot from you sir. Thank you for sharing your vast knowledge with all of us.

  • @kalleklp7291
    @kalleklp7291 9 лет назад +1

    Excellent video and a very handy idea..! I am used to the metric system, but that doesn't matter..the principle is the same. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

  • @addertooth1
    @addertooth1 4 года назад

    Richard Kicklighter I just did a 4mm key in cold rolled steel on a mini lathe (7 by 16 LMS) via this method. It worked. With harder materials you shave smaller amounts. It seemed happiest when the cut was 1.5 thousands or less. Because you won't be using the compound, it is best if it is set parallel with the work, and the gibs have been tightened up to avoid slop.

  • @boltonky
    @boltonky 2 года назад

    This was brilliant and a way better way than i have been doing it, sometimes the simple ideas work when you can't afford broaching tools

  • @ckvasnic1
    @ckvasnic1 10 лет назад +3

    Thanks for broaching the subject.

  • @WagonWheels707
    @WagonWheels707 10 лет назад

    That grand kid of yours has got it made! I remember getting my start in my grandpas shop, also, but he didn't have nearly the amount of tools and cool-guy stuff you have. Pretty much just hand tools. Heck, even his grinder was one of the ones that you had to crank. That darn thing almost broke my arm one time when the handle slipped out of my hand and came back around to say hello. Good video, though! Keep up the good work! -Brandon

  • @randysiemens5491
    @randysiemens5491 4 года назад

    That was great, I need to do several key ways on new lathe handles for a lathe I’m rebuilding. Thank you.

  • @artm7411
    @artm7411 10 лет назад +1

    Mr Pete,
    What you did was actually a manual shaping operation. The device you mentioned that attaches to the back of a bridgeport is a "E" head. I obtained one of those before I obtained a 7" Atlas Shaper.
    Art

  • @cr2fabrication
    @cr2fabrication 4 года назад

    Brilliant Mr Pete!!! I have a timing gear for a CNC mill conversion I'm doing, 10mm bore needs a 4mm key, can't make a broach bushing that size for a B1 broach. 5/32" parting tool, is about 1 thou smaller than 4mm, looks like I'm making a tool!!!! Thanks for the inspiration!!!

  • @bulwynkl
    @bulwynkl 8 лет назад

    That sound as the cutting starts... Love that.
    Zinc crystals twin when they are deformed, and when they do, the transition shoots across the crystal at the speed of sound, making a noise. So that if you bend a thin piece near your ear, that same sound is what you hear!
    Odds on, the cutting sound is because the cutting is making the zinc chips twin as they cut and deform...

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  8 лет назад

      Thank you very much--I did not know any of that..

    • @bulwynkl
      @bulwynkl 8 лет назад

      No problem.
      (of course, it's entirely plausible that I'm wrong and it's just the sound of the cutting, but it sounds exactly the same. Seems like a logical deduction)

  • @larrysperling8801
    @larrysperling8801 10 лет назад

    good video, i really like your tip on setting the center height on the cutting tool.

  • @frac
    @frac 10 лет назад +2

    Hi, Jordan! Nice hearing from you again.

  • @CompEdgeX2013
    @CompEdgeX2013 10 лет назад +2

    Great demo Mr Pete. Most home shops would have no way to make a keyway and this method is easy and cheap to do.
    PS: Hasn't Mrs Pete noticed that red towel missing yet?? LOL
    Colin

    • @FredMiller
      @FredMiller 10 лет назад +1

      Nice catch Colin.. LMAO!

  • @tcmtech7515
    @tcmtech7515 6 лет назад

    Super! You just saved me a few hundred dollars on not buying a broaching set just to do the odd key slot now and then!

  • @64t120r
    @64t120r 5 лет назад

    Hi Jordan. I don't know if broaching is the proper word, but the technique has always reminded me of the old shapers. I'm sure you know the older shapers that shave off steel. Bye Jordan.

  • @daveg1208
    @daveg1208 6 лет назад

    Excellent, I have a need for that very same process. Have been thinking about how I was going to pull it off and bingo, came across your video. My broaches are too big for my current intended application. Yup, it is my solution. Thank you for sharing.

  • @dogpaw775
    @dogpaw775 3 года назад

    how did this gem of suggestion evade me for so long, staring me in the face; doh!.

  • @builditright4666
    @builditright4666 4 года назад

    I usually only subscribe to channels that I can learn from. So now I am your newest subscriber thanks.

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  4 года назад

      Thank you, and welcome aboard

  • @mauritzcoetzee7026
    @mauritzcoetzee7026 7 лет назад

    I applaud you Sir!!
    Thank you for your wonderful videos!!

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  7 лет назад

      +mauritz coetzee thanks for watching

  • @mikehart6708
    @mikehart6708 3 года назад

    Very clear. I learned from this and found it useful

  • @extothebiker6519
    @extothebiker6519 4 года назад

    Thank you for sharing this sir, I've been pondering how to do just this operation!

  • @damirdze
    @damirdze 5 лет назад

    Great video , from different angles, thanks mrpete.

  • @therobloxsquad8640
    @therobloxsquad8640 Год назад

    Thank for taking your time making this video

  • @turborulz72
    @turborulz72 8 лет назад

    Good idea. I like that stop you rigged up too.

  • @punkskalar
    @punkskalar 8 лет назад

    I love your videos and teaching style

  • @richardkicklighter1202
    @richardkicklighter1202 10 лет назад +5

    Very Clever. Keep 'em coming. That tip is an excellent lesson. I wonder how well that would work on cold rolled stock?

  • @jasoncarpenter3705
    @jasoncarpenter3705 10 лет назад

    That's funny,I just did the same thing this week on my Cnc Lathe.It was 2 keyways though,180 degrees apart.

  • @Z3n1tHL0rD
    @Z3n1tHL0rD 10 месяцев назад

    Great explanation, very clear, thank you :)

  • @NoyAtkinson
    @NoyAtkinson 7 месяцев назад

    That's much simpler than another method that I saw last week where a tiny tool was ground and fitted on the diameter of a small shaft mounted as your blade is.

  • @marksteven3534
    @marksteven3534 9 лет назад

    I'm sure glad Jordan didn't decide to turn on the Clausing while you were "broaching".

  • @efs830
    @efs830 5 лет назад

    Just what i was looking for!
    Tanks. Gona try your idea this weekend :)

  • @henryk7099
    @henryk7099 3 года назад

    Nice technique for many lathes but potentially troublesome if you try this on any Atlas lathes
    The carriage left-right movement gears are housed in a Zamak casting. Over time, some Zamak casting made by Atlas have lost a lot of their original strength. The result is that old Zamak castings could break under a lot less stress then when they were new. I broke one on my Atlas lathe without subjecting it to a lot of stress. As a result, one creative CNC person has now begun to make these housings from aluminum and are selling them on eBay. The same problem goes for an Atlas shaper part that can be successively 3D printed in plastic - also available on eBay. I also have one of these on my shaper. This may be a Zamak flaw that has only affected old Atlas parts - I do not know.
    I believe Zamak is still being made and I suspect that the Atlas zamak problems have been identified and remedied in newly made zamak parts.

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  3 года назад

      It is called zamak pest

  • @wjward8602
    @wjward8602 10 лет назад

    I think I've seen this done in books or magazine articles using a boring bar small enough to fit the hole and a bit ground to the right size for the slot.

  • @turborulz72
    @turborulz72 8 лет назад

    I'm definitely checking out your other videos.

  • @FredMiller
    @FredMiller 10 лет назад

    Wonderful segment Mr. Pete. Jordan is a man of few words! ;^)

  • @9111logic
    @9111logic 2 года назад

    Excellent as always, thank you

  • @Tryin2FlyII
    @Tryin2FlyII 10 лет назад

    Great Job as always Tubalcain !!!I I'm still working on getting my lathe moved and set up so haven't been in class for awhile ( I think I was having withdraw symptoms?lol) All these Great videos and I cant even get started yet lol Frustrating isn't a strong enough word for what I'm feeling But I'm getting closer every day (pictures soon to follow)

  • @henryk7099
    @henryk7099 3 года назад

    I just did a little more research on the old Zamak parts. It is described in great detail under the title "zink pest" in Wikipedia. It goes onto say items made "after 1960" are generally free of this problem.

  • @UncleKennysPlace
    @UncleKennysPlace 3 года назад

    I just successfully did this, saved me buying a broach for a one-off!

  • @Patroand
    @Patroand 10 лет назад

    There is another video related to this method but without any explanations. And It look so hard to do the job that I didn't even tested it.I believe that we can make such a tool from O1 or Silver tools steel. I'll give this a try. Thanks again for sharing your knowhow with us.
    Warm regards.

  • @jefferyjohnson5421
    @jefferyjohnson5421 10 лет назад

    Very smart. As always I enjoyed.

  • @mxcollin95
    @mxcollin95 6 лет назад

    Excellent video...as usual!!! 👍

  • @donaldnaymon3270
    @donaldnaymon3270 4 года назад

    Great work. Thank you for sharing.

  • @MaineMachinist
    @MaineMachinist 5 лет назад

    This is an awesome method for a lathe with good v type ways. Flat ways like an Atlas and it doesn't work as well.

  • @mikebates7234
    @mikebates7234 9 лет назад +2

    you r a very smart man, thanx for the video

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  9 лет назад +2

      +Mike Bates I don't know about that, but thank you very much

  • @ChrisBrown-dy8ts
    @ChrisBrown-dy8ts 5 лет назад

    If you don’t have the broach tool, you can just drill and tap the hand wheel so the correct size grub screw acts like a key . both ways are good.

  • @donmiller9631
    @donmiller9631 10 лет назад +3

    Great tip, Thank You.

  • @jeraldware1518
    @jeraldware1518 2 года назад

    Thank You. I will be doing this today.

  • @danermer2955
    @danermer2955 9 месяцев назад

    What a slick was to make the keyway

  • @roynielsen1911
    @roynielsen1911 4 года назад

    Mr. Pete, do you think this technique would work in general for a non-through bore? I have a need to make an adapter for the output end of a harmonic drive transmission (~1-3/4" long by 7/8" diameter shaft with keyway) to a couple different ends (1" x 8 TPI, 5/8" smooth). I'll put a set screw or two on the shaft, which may be enough to hold for what will probably be a low torque interface, but would like to have some amount of keyway if at all possible.

  • @charles1379
    @charles1379 8 лет назад

    is the depth of the key way measured from the center line of the hole to the edge of the key way or is it from the shoulder of the key way where the cutter first touches the hole.
    thanks for the great videos

  • @tobyw9573
    @tobyw9573 7 лет назад

    Pete, interesting how you have the rear toolholder set screw hanging half a diameter off the rear of the tool bit. It does appear it would hold better axially that way. You essentially have a shaper there - I guess that in some instances it might help to have a clapper, but certainly not for cutting buttery zinc!
    It occurs to me that you could cut gear teeth in that manner if you could grind a cutter with the proper profile - much simpler than buying a cutter which are expensive and come in so many varieties. Just grind the cutter to match the cutter with one of its less-worn mates. Or can you buy inserts ready made? Hard to stop writing and look it up youtube is quite prone to lock up if I go to my browser on my iPad - requires a hard reboot to work properly and that also erases what I’ve written.

  • @lestergrenz5002
    @lestergrenz5002 10 лет назад

    Excellent Video!

  • @markbarker4702
    @markbarker4702 3 года назад

    Thank you Sir.. great content

  • @dwightcarlson7136
    @dwightcarlson7136 3 года назад

    I didn't catch it if it was thrown; is the width of the parting tool the same as the required key way width? Or could one just reset the height of the tool and make multiple cuts?
    Also when using the second parting tool to try to level the cutting tool, I can see that the top surface of the tool becomes level but isn't the narrow face of the tool now tilting down same amount as it would have tilted if no spacer was used? i. e. it just tilts in the opposite direction? It still was close enough to do the job. In any case, it is an excellent video and taught me ĺot. Thanks for all your great videos.

  • @willford8475
    @willford8475 10 лет назад

    Excellent video, thanks

  • @5005ginger
    @5005ginger 6 лет назад

    Good job done thanks for the tips!

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  6 лет назад

      Thank you for watching

  • @Wooley689
    @Wooley689 10 лет назад

    Fantastic, I need to cut a slot and don't have a slitting saw, this will be perfect I do think.

    • @doright6461
      @doright6461 8 лет назад +2

      +Wooley689 Band saw? often on non aircraft it is acceptable to use even a .06 wide saw blade when the print says .08. Many designs of food machinery, custom prototype stuff is designed with a standard where an engineer uses as a type of default width for slitting clamps and things. often is ok to change a little to get the job done. just get an ok first to cover you backside if you think about deviating. As said though. No deviation for Aerospace.

  • @jimjakosh2506
    @jimjakosh2506 5 лет назад

    Thank you. I have an application for this with a 5/32 keyway

  • @martinaltria5863
    @martinaltria5863 9 лет назад

    These are readily available off the shelf of a company I know of... they will also make the tooling suit the lead angle of a worm or a spiral bevel gear but these are for CNC really...

    • @mrpete222
      @mrpete222  9 лет назад

      Martin Altria thanks--did not know that

    • @martinaltria5863
      @martinaltria5863 9 лет назад

      It's all about the angle... ie tangency to the line of cut....
      www.revtool.eu/en/contacts.html
      I speak to Daniela Greco

  • @Clackvalve2
    @Clackvalve2 6 лет назад

    Hi, Any chance for a "walk through" on the making of a Gib strip. I am currently restoring an Elliott Juniormil I would like to undertake the project by scraping it in. Great video as always. keep 'em commin.