It really is, especially if they don’t want to give details until you go to the “meeting” and it’s very cult like. Everyone was extremely nice and smiled almost too much. I can honestly say i was in a very vulnerable state at the time i joined which was 2016. I felt like i was getting nowhere in life so it was a perfect time for someone to motivate me to try something new and think outside the box. I left amway after about 5 months of seeing no one making real money and seeing the trends which is buying so many products and buying into seminars and conferences which is where amway makes the real bucks in my opinion. No one tried to help me make my business grow or downline grow. I decided to leave and good thing i joined bc i learned alot from what they do they pretty much prey on your goals and dreams and try to make it very simple by saying you buy these products anyway why not buy from a company that pays you back. Love the people, hate the business model. Now that I actually understand business after trying many things and actually starting and failing at other businesses, the numbers don’t add up. It makes no sense. Glad to have learned 😁
@@phucknaw2104 This was EXACTLY my experience (except I stayed longer :S) Very cult-like, pressure to buy sooo many new products and books and go to trained conferences. My upline were genuinly nice, likeable people but the business model doesn't work for everyone like they say it will. Thanks for sharing your experience!
@@phucknaw2104 the name of the company is the most basic information you should be given. in the future, don't set up any meetings, don't even give out your phone number if someone refuses to give you the information you need
This couple approached me in a grocery store out of nowhere. The wife said I have a very nice tie and then asked me what my interests were and they said they have the same interests. We had a great conversation. The husband then gave me his number, he kept in contact with me always checked how I was and sent me smiley faces. We then met one time at chipotle and mentioned he was a drop shipper, I never heard of that and he said we'd discuss it more next time. We then met at Panera and told me about Amway and it's pyramid scheme in detail. He'd often switch the conversation to something I was interested in and whenever I displayed the knowledge on my interest he'd say I was awesome, cool, intelligent, and you're the man. I felt like a god. He said he would send me some information on when a business lecture on Amway would be held at his house. I now know why he was so friendly. The old saying we all know "If something seems to good to be true it probably is" is true.
That is Sad to hear, because you can make a lot of money doing Marketing and sales, especially online and honestly at that. All the major brands do it, Nike, apple, Microsoft, Muscle milk, Sephora etc. You probably had the wrong mentors or Upline-they are not suppose to push anyone to do the business and tell them your awesome your great just to get a body. I don’t know about you, but if I was trying to grow a business I want someone serious about making money, not afraid of the grind. I don’t want to have to tell them oh your great, you can do this cmon. It’s either you make money, let me help you make money or by here is your money back hit the door-good luck with your endeavors. That is why if you decide to do it you can get all your money back-and use say no. Also for products you got a six month guarantee. Send it back in six months and still get your money back? What other company does that. Most people quit because sales and marketing is not easy-the right mentors and teachers can make it harder or easier. Sorry you had that experience good luck in your endeavors.
@@mosesoliver3694 correct usually its upline who mess up for not being honest the people they sharing to. I like to be upfront and say that I'm in Amway and I usually just talk about the products and they quality they give. And most of the time, I wont force people if they are not comfortable (that's highly unprofessional ) and encourage them to question as much as possible to clarify. Tbh you must be able to withstand rejections and even insults ( very rare but I have met a couple who hurled insults at me , I just politely said " if your not comfortable or not interested, you can just say so " and I thanked them for the time and moved on ). Me personally i aim to get customers for products first. Sharing the Amway business plan is usually second and I keep a principle of honesty and transparency before making the appointment. The only thing what is the frequency of your effort, if you're slow and business grow very very slowly, if you're fast, the faster your growth and experience with be. If you just joined and expect everything to happen by it self, then you're in for a big disappointment.
the biggest take away for me, has been learning how to say "No", "thanks but no thanks", if youre somebody who is afraid to come across rude etc, I think there can be a tendency to be overly accommodating for people, its okay to say "NO", thanks for sharing your experiances!
@Broken Tower just happened to me I never got into it but they want me to attend a meeting a few mins and I can’t exactly say no, I just have a struggle with saying no 🥴
Girl I pulled out after the first video chat. It seemed very cultish. The minute they told me not to listen to my mom, I had to dip. My momma has never been wrong when it comes to my life lol. She also been researching MLM.
My parents definitely told me it was a bad idea but my relationship with them was rocky at best at the time so I refused to listen to them and chalked it up to them not being supportive. It's hard looking back and feeling stupid but I'm so glad you dodged that bullet real fast!!
I turned away when one of my close friends genuinely told me it was a pyramid. Immediately puked the kool aid and watched everything. Feels bad, thought I made a friend
It’s sooo crazy how I just received the “video” from them and it’s been 10 days. We had a few zoom calls and I thought she was gonna be a great resource as a mentor. She said she will be able to answer any questions that I may have in skincare. However, after looking at these videos and comments. I’m all set!!
I got into the makeup MLM briefly. I went to a meeting at a big hotel, and some man walked in the wrong conference room. These women chased him as he tried to leave the room, trying to sell him product. I knew right then I did not want to be like that. They also made us order tons of stuff, and I could not sell it fast enough, and then we had to order more. I was a broke young stay at home mom and just couldn't tie up all that money in product. That was many years ago.
She’s right about being able to pick them out. They speak in a very distinctive coded language with certain catchphrases. I’m not sure what’s worse, MLM’s or timeshares.
This is so true. They always approach you as a cute young couple, and start with “freedom of time” and they have the same mannerisms it’s very scary and cultish
@Pray without ceasing I’m not gonna itemize all the things that suck about them, I’ll just say that you can book a vacation anywhere in the world without having a timeshare and you’ll probably end up paying less so what’s the point of having it? This is why they do high pressure sales and offer you free stuff if you just agree to hear their pitch. Products and services that are actually good and useful don’t resort to those tactics.
@@enohp660I had a time-share with my ex that was 2 hours away. We maxed it out and were at our timeshare as much as possible. It worked out really good. The key for us is that it was only 2 hours away and we loved going there and the hotels were really small and significantly more expensive than the time share. The problem is most won't let you cancel but ours wasn't difficult.
I was in Amway back in the early 90's. Made just a little bit of money. Met the girl I would marry and start a family with. The second time the group I built all quit so did I. Went on to have a successful career in the construction industry using a lot of the ethic and what I had learned from the books and tapes.
I was in the Amway cult bc my ex was into it and I fully believed what she told me and went 100% with her. Now hear me out, yes it’s a pyramid scheme, BUT pyramid schemes do work if you do it right. If u think about it a regular job is a pyramid scheme just with a for sure paycheck: you start at an entry level and work your way up and so on. Now back to Amway. They strongly insist that you attend every meeting (which usually costs you) they strongly insist u buy books and ebooks and tapes and video, all sorts of things (when you are big enough that’s where the real money comes from). Now u have what’s called an “up line”...that’s who introduced you to the program. And your “down line” is everyone you introduced into the program. Now it only works if u sell products AND your down line sells products thus earning you a little more. “Basic business and commission”. The real money only comes in when you have a bug mass of people under u selling mass amount of product. So in theory you can potentially make money and good income u just have to have the best charisma and silver tongue to persuade others. I will admit that when I went to the meetings they made almost mandatory, that they tell you ways of how to better yourself and put these dreams in front of you to chase. After I left a lot of the words from the actual big names resonate with me still. THEY DID teach me how I needed to better myself in order to get what I want. And they did help with how to act more professional. I run my own sound engineering business and dj business but I will say I took a lot from their meetings. All the meetings they had were to just “fire you up” ( you’ll hear that a lot) but the words they spoke made sense. Hope this helped! It’s not necessarily bad but also not a quick come up!
Thank you for sharing your story, they were very motivational lol. I feel like WWG is for the few that have grit and are hard working and also have charisma like you said haha. People think that just because those people made it to "diamond" means they are too. It takes time and hard work and some people have other goals and that's alright, to each their own. Everyone has their own life and or business to think about and Amway is not for everyone. But I'm glad you got something positive out of it :)
No they do not work. They are illegal and now we have MLMs which us just a euphemism. The money is made by people at the top by selling meetings, books, and tapes. It’s exploitive. There aren’t enough people in the world to make the down line idea work. You simply run out of people.
To escape my Amway upline I had to fake my own death. Like there used to be a joke website to make your own newspaper obituary, and I made one except instead of being a funny gag, I made it super serious and convincing. My mailbox was a P.O box so they never had my real address to verify that I had died.
I love this,i have pretended to b dead to an ex mean tenant i had b4 and also to a scam wig company on line who would not leave me the heck alone after i proved to my credit card company they had sent me garbage wigs not as advertised,i got my $ back and fake wig place e mailed me with threats for 8 months daily,finally i emailed them saying my mother had passed away please stop e mailing her.i never heard from them again. In future i will die in the 1st month of harrassment.
Thanks for sharing. I'm currently getting "vetted" so I've been on youtube getting other opinions. Until this process, I'd never heard of Amway. Its very much reminding me of Avon and Mary Kay. What bothered me was that during a meeting I asked about statistics: success rates and timeline to start making significant money. They fell silent and changed the subject. It was also off putting how everyone was saying literally the EXACT same thing, and failed to get to their points. They truly are very specific in how they talk. I would rather spend time investing in myself without having to come out of pocket for something that may not yield any reward.
I'm currently getting "vetted" too & right now they want me to come out of pocket to go the "summit" & honestly I wasn't hoping it wasn't a pyramid scheme
I had 2 hours before my first ever conference with amway and I was feeling so anxious about it, not out of pure nervousness of meeting new people but more so out of being put into a pyramid scheme. I showed my cousin the company and straight away knew it was a scam, then I went onto Reddit and discovered even worse things. So I’m glad I saw this before I went to the meeting. Definitely not going.
I agree. What you said about how specific they talk sounded kinda off to me too. I mean damn mfs started sounding like robots repeating the same thing over and over.
I did Amway in my early 20s and it wasn’t for me. I liked the products, but they were too expensive. I also didn’t like seeing people I met as people who could be part of my business. That made those interactions superficial and I didn’t like it. I just walked away like yourself and felt better about myself when I did and didn’t look back.
I was invited also, and i just felt silly applauding for every little word that came out of their mouths and , for example one person would give a speech and someone would offer them a sip of water and all of sudden everyone else started applauding just for that, the hooray and almost mind control that we must do that like little children wasn't my cup of tea, I understand the process and the work involved but these recruiters treat you like a 2 year old, it's all basically a pyramid scheme were. The very ones in the bottom which is me by the way would end up scrubbing for leftovers, i was uncomfortable and somewhat afraid for my life since most of these individuals didn't seem like thy had personality or empathy and even looked sinister, the whole quackery charade hit me harder than a shot of tequila on Christmas eve.
thank you, currently have a friend trying to recruit my friends and I am starting to loose my patience with him, and I am very tempted to slap him in the face
I was in Amway for about two years. The only thing good I took away was to read self help books. Reading has changed my life and it was because of Amway. Never really read books until I joined. Will never be a part of another MLM again but will always be grateful I joined initially.
I am 21 years old I am a diamond ejectiv in my line I only have people from Mexico they never give up and they don't talk trash they love Amway and I love it too I pay my own University a UCLA I make more money every month then 20 people working the whole month you did not make it because you don't have real dreams because you haven't done nothing anyways not work everybody Viva Mexico my Mexican boyfriend the most popular guy in my University 22 years old he's a diamond he is under me in my line he become a diamond you only 6 months why cuz he's really have dreams he also a drummer play in a band heavy metal music very close friend of Alejandra Guzman the queen of rock and roll in Spanish he also has a friend Luis Miguel thanks to Amway
My fellow classmate in college asked me to join her coven. I thought, wow, I have been asked in the past to join Avon, Tupperware, etc, but this was the first time I was asked to join a coven. I declined. I had 4 kids, a house to run, and a job. I had no time for witchcraft.
I don't know if anybody knows that an actual "Pyramid Scheme" is illegal. Also, if you look at any job and the way it's set up. It actually looks like a pyramid. It's just the way most places are set up to keep the business going. So I am sure if you looked at my job, your job, and/or anybody else's job on this thread; it would look like a pyramid. Thank you for reading my T.E.D. talk!
@@dariousegravely9517 It's a pyramid scheme with a "product." The product is a legal loophole to keep them from getting shut down. Also, cocaine is illegal. By your logic: Cocaine is illegal therefore cocaine doesn't exist.
A woman from Amway is trying to recruit me & not gonna lie... it sounded very appealing. But after making all my research I’m gonna decline! (Very true about them pushing the self-development books & not mentioning the company at first).
Hello I am in the same situation the person is a family member actually and even after researching I am still considering it uggh I need the money. But what make you not continue it ?
@@celialusma4618 calculating the odds of me actually succeeding in this & it’s extremely low. This would take way too much time and money out of my pocket to actually make it. TIME IS MONEY, so this is just not the right “business” for me to get into. Also the products that they try to sell are completely worthless like vitamins & random stuff nobody would want to buy.
it's actually kind of sad because amway does/did have some really good products, but i got tired of trying to buy them because i got tired of arguing with the dealers every time they tried to show me "the plan"... amway dealers are more interested in selling you "the plan' rather than selling amway products.
Yes! This was something we were taught. It was drilled into us that if someone likes the products you should always try to pit them the plan. Every meeting was focussed on "how often have you shown the plan?" It just showed me how little the products actually mattered.
@Frater Libertas I don’t think you get the plan you will never be free when you’re with amway the whole plan is to get more people on board so you become apart of the “upline” it’s kinda known as a MLM scheme or pyramid scheme there are a million ways to better yourself and make money you make 10% profit from amway when you start for what feeding you bullshit and the most you can make is 25% so amway takes 75% of your profits use your knowledge and build yourself a business where you can make 100% of the profits realize you’re doing all the work for amway do the work for yourself and I can tell because you edited the comment you’re following strategies on how to sell amway and your lifestyle😂
@Frater Libertas you see I would agree with what you said but the funny thing is I do completely well for myself and am completely happy with my financial status everything you say sounds like you’re in a cult and are in denial of the truth I have no intention of taking this to court and this is my personal opinion of the company from the multiple money fraud allegations in multiple different countries they have settled the court cases outside of court it’s called arbitration either way they payed someone outside of court this is public information if you do one google search you can see this information I am not a flunkie and I’ve never joined amway because if you have to pay to start an IBO it’s very sketchy just because they changed there business model doesn’t mean it’s not a scam any more my point is not to hinder your success I’m trying to give you information of the company and show you that they are taking all of your money you have to sell 4X as many products to make what a real business owner is making
I can spot them from a mile away. I’ve been approached several times at grocery stores and other places and as soon as I spark up a conversation and hear them talk for 10 seconds I already know what’s coming. I usually stop them and ask them if they’re in Amway and their eyes open wide and they say yes and I just start laughing
@@usernamechecksout9901 I literally just realized it a couple minutes before heading into this meeting they’re hosting and I’m finna make an excuse and get outta there 🤣
Yeah, me too Paul. Back in the early 90's. Just sitting at the counter in a Dunkin' Donuts in San Diego. Having coffee, reading the SD Union-Tribune. Some guy about my age wearing a dress shirt and tie sits down one stool away. He started his Amway pitch. Starts asking me if I know who some guy was. Bill Blitch or something like that. One of those WWDB scumbags. I told him I was aware of Amway and wasn't interested. He kept trying. Telling me how "fired up" his wife was. Gotta hand it to him. He sure tried.
Oh my god I felt this so strongly! I just graduated and a friend from college encouraged me to be an Amway “business owner” with her. And the more I thought about it the more I felt like I was being dragged away from my craft, and I just couldn’t do it
Best way to leave Amway or any other MLM, Pyramid Scheme is to just ghost them. You did the right thing. They will try to suck you back in by giving you a guilt trip or they will ghost you.
Quitting after just 3 months? Maybe the supposedly 90% who fail have this same attitude. Your sponsor obviously has not taught you the five steps which you MUST do to succeed in this industry. LEADS - CONTACT - APPOINTMENT - PRESENTATION - FOLLOW-UP = CUSTOMER/REP = $$$
Don’t be ashamed in how you walked away. I am a writer and actress living in public housing and was just sold this dream. From the jump I was EXTREMELY bored but thought I was being childish and that it was a new thing so I may be uncomfortable at first. This past Saturday I went to a meeting and the worship of the leaders was to intense. Especially as a born again Christian it was very unwell with my spirit. Thanks for this video. You and God have helped me make my decision ♥️
I felt the exact same way! Amway was the biggest 10-year head-ache of my life. My main issue, amongst many, were the people posing as Christians using God's Word out of context to further their own interests. Just the thought of attending another one of those meetings makes me nauseous.
@@nsikanakpan1200 Ten years and an estimated 20,000.00 between tools, weekly, monthly, quarterly conference tickets, gas, hotels, books, CDs. An that's not including monthly product orders.
Just got off a one hour zoom call for a “business opportunity” and he literally showed me an image of basically a pyramid and how he’s part of amway. It’s funny how similar my experience is to everyone in the comments, but I’m happy I didn’t get dragged in any further or actually put any money in.
The person who suckered my husband into it slipped up once and blabbed how the "diamonds" made most of their money. Thank GOD that opened his eyes and got out. The diamonds make the majority of their money forcing their downline to buy the tapes of their speachs, inviting you to their house then wanting a big fee for the "privilege" of attending...etc.
Oh that's horrible. While many of them are professional "motivational speakers" like you describe, I have to admit that they usually also have successful companies in construction, finances, etc.
I’m sorry but that simply is not true. I’m sorry you’ve had a bad experience but please don’t assume your negative experience is normal. If you understand how the comp plan works then your tune will change. Again sorry you had a negative experience
@@22shroomster I understand how the complete plan works. Everyone I know that got sucked into Amway feels the way I do. Some did wake up to the BS until 10 years later and they were broke
@@boudicacelticwarrior1481 if you understand then you have no excuse. The only people who lose money are the ones who treat it like a hobby. Sorry you had a bad experience.
Thanks for sharing, Danielle! I recently watched a Netflix documentary that mentioned that over 90% of people in an MLM lose money. So many people get taken advantage of! I'm glad you're out.
Thank you so much for sharing this! I’m currently trying to get recruited by two guys and i’ve been debating if it’s worth it all bc it’s not at all what I want to do with my life and pyramid schemes are ALWAYS A RED FLAG. I wanna drop them now but ugh I wish I could just ghost them haha.
Best advice that I can give you is to not waste your time on something that isn’t promising. I hope you have a better job line up for you than a pyramid scheme.
Tell them to f**k off, im in direct sales with straight commission and got pitched this b.s and straight up told them during the zoom meeting when they did the amway reveal that they just wasted 2 valuable hours of my life in front of everyone, maybe its the salesman in me thats willing to say anything to anyone specially if they're wasting my time.
Thank you so much for sharing! I actually been apart of Amway for about 4 months and they are tryna keep me back in and I am finally leaving Amway and Melaleuca at the same time since I got ended with both of them in the first place. This is a catastrophe and you really spoke your truth! Continue to do what's best for you👏🏽
Or, it's just a better way to live and they preach positivity and know that honey gets more flies than vinegar?? Lol. Look, I think amway is hells cultists. I'm in amway. The positivity is cringey. My wife gets mad at me every time I roll my eyes at some of shit they say. The products and their affiliations are solid- do they hype their shit up, yeah - it would be counterintuitive to not and secondly, i don't think we've had any one return the products and more people than not repeat[without us having to pester the shit out of them] (thus they aight). But the idea that wow these f'ers are so nice to me, I shouldn't buy their decent ahit or use their dropshipping style web link to buy Nike gear cuz I want rude, ugly styled people to sell me my shit is bananas. Lol
I just love your unbiased view on your MLM experience... any people I come across speak of only the negatives and claim that there's nothing good to pick from it.
Just to be clear for anyone that is not, and has never been in Amway. Amway does put on ‘Dreambuilding Events’ and they can be spectacular. However, they are ticketed events which mean you the ‘Independent’ (but follow the rules) Amway Agent pay for the event. In short: Amway puts it on, to motivate / manipulate you, and you pay for it.
A former coworker of mine is in Amway, he is a pretty smart guy and he knows is a piramid scheme and that he has been scammed for years, the problem is that he is so deep in that he hasnt been able to convince himself to just quit, i can see it in his eyes every time i see him. I hope he gets the guts to leave soon, I mountain bike with his son often and he was able to quit right when he started college and he is not coming back, hopefully he convinces his dad soon.
Don't be ashamed for going through all that. It's a blessing that you are sharing this with the world because it is such a secret organization and it's such a relief to hear an authentic story about them
@@randydeinlein1351 she is. . . People make more than 6 figures in this business, she thinks it's a scam because she never did her part, leveraged herself and put in the work she needed too, people like her quit to easily and don't understand that you need to actually do work.
@@Yahovahs_Angel "she thinks its a scam because she never did her part" is quite an accusation. She made it pretty clear why she thinks its a scam, and it had nothing to do with her feeling she couldn't handle the demands or do her part. She used logic and reason and found the company to be unethical and manipulative.
This is such a good testimony of: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is....I read all the time, the only difference is mine is the Bible, not what other people think I need to do to be successful. Thanks for putting yourself out there. You are a trooper.
You feel bad for ghosting them? I’m already planning on what to say on the weekly meeting. This is wrong and hope to warn others enough to get out of it
It's great to see you've grown a lot since then ❤ ...years later you finally realized -> maybe thanks to that "baad positive thinking self-improvement books" 😃you still reading
Amway is like signing up to sell drugs as a dealer in the ghetto. The amount of times the drugs changes hands from the fields of Columbia to your hands is probably in the double or triple figures. Of course the product price is expensive for the customer. It cost amway a fortune just to get the product to the salesman who sells it to the customer. There are too many disturbutors in amway all taking a slice of the customer's payment. This means you the salesman get less of the pie too. This is why Amazon is the more successful and respected company while amway is the most hated. Amazon cares about the customer while amway cares about profits. The only way to make money in amway is to recruit others to take your position as the salesman. Its a system that rewards deception as a practice.
Amazon is not a direct sales company. Amway is the highest network direct sales business in the world. Not giving an opinion. Just thought I'd leave you with facts.
@@joshapaul9381 no you are correct. Amazon doesn't do direct selling. But in 2020. Everyone hates direct selling companies. It's annoying to have solicitors at your door. With the amount of scammers as today as well. Most direct sellers are assumed to be scammers. To be honest, the business practice isn't that much different. You feel scammed when you realize how much you over paid for the product when you find it somewhere cheaper. It's also not premium products as marketed. Many reviews and comparisons prove the quality isn't any better than what you find in e-commerce or retail. It's a terrible business model when the majority of your profit comes from your own employees buying products they can't sell. I'd consider that a scam.
@@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech I see. Personally I have used Amway products and found to be very good. I know there's a lot of people who hate Amway. But there is a reason its a 10 billion dollar company, I don't think you can be a billion dollar company and sell shit products, people aren't idiots. Theres a lot of people who love the products as well. People who have positive views just aren't as oud as people with a negative view on it. If anyone has a problem with the price of the products then don't buy it lmao, don't blame the business.
My experience was/has been fantastic! Don't let one person's negative experience prevent you from giving it a try for yourself. Of all the MLMs, Amway is by far the most reputable. Also remember, everyone builds the Amway opportunity differently. So, while some can come off "cultish" and pushy, that does not mean that everyone you run into builds their business that way.
Must be one of your upline's better prospectors. Hook the suckers and haul them in. Bleed them dry. Take their rent and food and gas money to keep "growing". Be your own best customer. What a crock of ****.
Amway is still a MLM. That will never change the fact. But Amway is not something you will get success in a blink of eye. You should be consistent and never be obsessed. It sells daily life product. Just shop what you need. Try everything that you think you are interested. Share with people if you like it. Or make a refund if you dont like it. It’s simple. I found out people is soo obsessed in successing in short time. You even need to crawl before you run tho. Dont be rushed and fall into bankruptcy
Love your comment friend there's is no microwave business out there meaning get rich quick that functions as a real business like you said it takes time first you have to develop your self get your mind right ect,etc you have to get that leadership mind set because you going to leading a lot of people into your business, so yes it takes time. I totally agree with you with the use of the products and everything👍🏽👍🏽
So after listening to your story it seems that to me, you really got a lot out of Amway. You may not have stuck with it but to this day it has changed you for the better. 22yrs ago I signed up, did everything you did but for me I had a poor self image of myself which I feared talking to anyone who was in a better life situation than I was, which was just about everyone. I loved the seminars, being around upline and the education and motivation. Though I never did anything with the business, I dont regret it one bit. The time, money and tools, all worth it bc I learned more about personal growth and business in 3yrs than I ever did in school or the negative ppl we surround ourselves with. Thanks for sharing your story!
I'm curious as to how much you learned. I'm in one of these now and everything they teach is literally common sense. I haven't learned one thing that I didn't already know. I can see how people grow from this, but at the same time... it doesn't seem like this complex mentorship. They just applaud everything you do and make you feel good.
@@Steven-zo6uz I can see how that might come across. I think a lot of it is just being surrounded by people who are trying to be positive and encouraging, things that in general ppl do not do for others.
I was an IBO several years ago. It was not a scheme, I learned more about business and leadership way more than I ever learned in college. It's not for everyone, just say that. But some of the greatest people I ever met
I didn't have to be in an MLM to recognize a scam/pyramid scheme. Some people are so desperate for connections and doing the least work possible to be rich. It blinds them to the ovious.
A friend of mine tried to get me in this almost 20 years ago, I went to a couple of meeting, but I decided not to, haven't talked to him since LOL. Do they still do "the plan" presentation
Its not worth your time or money. If I were you. I would politely tell your friend you are not interested. If she feels bad, she might try to guilt trip you. They honestly have scripts to tell your buds that dont want to join up. Something along the lines of "You know.. I am about to be so busy, you might not see me again after I walk away." Let em walk. You'll be avoiding unnecessary stress and spending.
@@rigbanz7708 I was younger and like a good ammount of people I thought, why not lets see what happens. I'm human. I'm allowed to make mistakes. I don't really get why you would try to clown over my comment, but whatever.
Thanks so much for sharing your story! I was recently approached by someone I met in a training course who told me that he was being mentored by a group of successful business people to have financial freedom and earn passive income. But he didn't mention Amway at all and what they are actually doing to achieve that. I was curious and wanted to meet his mentor. So we had a few zoom meetings and I attended to one of their group sessions as well, in which there were about 200+ people. To be honest, their approach in self-development and the books/resources they recommended were quite useful and I found that aspect sensible. But after attending to a few sessions as a part of the recruitment process I decided to step back and do a bit of research and reflect on how my life would look like if I proceed with them. This video is one of the rare ones I found useful but I had already told them that I don't want to continue with the process. Because although I think people in the group have right mindset in terms of personal growth, financial freedom and business, the problem with Amway is that the focus is always on recruiting new people, which in itself provides no value to anyone at all. You either promote a products of a company in a similar fashion to a salesperson or trying to convince people to join you to do the same so it's a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy where no one is creating any value but because of the involvement and the investment that is being done by the followers there's a movement. And also I had some conversations before with people who were in similar businesses and the problem with them is that you can never be sure if they're genuinely interested in getting to know and connect with you or if they're trying to recruit you into their business. So I didn't want to turn into one of those people. In general I think the mindset is right but the area they apply that mindset is not so much.
The issue I have with the Amway process i encountered is/was; this guy randomly contacted me over Facebook (we were in the same group together) and then we got talking about life, my goals and dreams etc. Then he started telling me that he may be able to speak to his mentor to help me and that he 'can't promise anything' etc. So I just went with it, thinking that maybe this is just one of those opportunities of a lifetime to be mentored at something I'm really interested in (coaching, starting fitness and health retreats etc). 3 meetings in, the guy starts talking about amway, products, how 'what you read online about Amway is crap' etc. THIS HERE IS THE ISSUE. When I initially started speaking to that guy through fb, in no way, shape or form did I mention wanting to sell products and be involved in that shit. So why the hell would you set up all these meetings/get me to read books etc and invest time in me (and me in them), without actually telling me what the hell I'm getting involved in. I thought that maybe he had liked my idea about health/fitness etc and was willing to invest time into it, it's pretty bloody stupid to be honest. As soon as i found out it was Amway I respectfully declined to both of them..but maybe if they'd been transparent from the start, they would've saved time and energy for both of us (so it confuses me as to why the hell they aren't just upfront, as they're losing out too). Anyway, I don't necessarily think they were bad dudes, seem pretty intelligent etc but such lack of transparency shows alot about someone, regardless of whether they've been brainwashed or not. I do agree regarding the personal development books though, they definitely mentioned that alot, and that's something I'll take away. I personally think that Amway is a legit company but the vast majority fall at it. It also seems to reel people in and has cultish vibes to it as well.
It's funny because I had the same experience years ago with amway here in Greece where I live. I also wanted to be an actor and after a while I realized that this kind of business wasn't for me. So I walked out of that. Also I agree with you about the books of self improvement are really important and helpful but you must be careful about the trap of staying in the self improvement world without really put those tools and strategies in real life where you can see results.
With all due respect, that’s how it works with any business. You have people above you and people below you. But you quit because you want to be an actor. If you’re a person who just keeps working dead end job to dead end job with no career path, I don’t see a problem with giving it a shot. Not only are trying to build a business, but you’re trying to build yourself. I have been approached my entire life with Amway opportunities, but this time I’m actually going to give it a shot.
Their makeup and skincare honestly sucks, especially considering the fact that they cost as much as high end products from Sephora and MAC. Some of their food is good, some sucks, but either way they’re super pricy. The granola bars are good but they’re not $40 a box good lol. The ONLY products I still enjoy are the home products but with all of the damage they do to people I probably won’t be purchasing more when I finally run out
I really love skincare. When someone told me that Artistry was one of the top brands, I decided to check them out. Their ingredient lists are super lengthy for just a moisturizer or toner. Sun protection is important so I checked their sunscreen out as well. The UV filters are basic, such as octocrylene, zinc oxide, octisalate, what have you. Grab a Coppertone, Garnier or any sunscreen and UV filters won't differ much.
I ended it with a clear voice mail to my upline: _"Hey Bill! I'm no longer interested in being a mindless drone for Amway anymore. I'm done! Two things you ought to know though -- do not try to contact me and this phone will self destruct after this call. Bye-bye!"_
Wait ain't this suppose to be your own business? Yes friend you did the right thing except the brainless drone part you where never brainless I admired you getting into business for your self to take care of your family and your self that's all👍🏽🙋🏾♂️
Thanks for sharing your experience! I was in an MLM in the early 90’s called Melaluca. They still have great products that I occasionally still buy, but the recruiting side of it wasn’t for me. I think your were okay to ghost your up line. They usually resort to gaslighting their down line when they express interest in leaving and guilt them into staying. It doesn’t make you a bad person for ghosting them, it was better for you to practice self care mentally and emotionally and make a clean break. If they were your true friends they would still be in your life, Amway or not.
My boyfriend joined Amway for two years already and I don’t know what to do to drag him out of this type of business. He even wants me to join with him with the hope that I will change my mind later to do the Amway business with him. I showed your video to him and the only things he told me that you are not working hard enough 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️so that why you leave. I don’t know what to do since I felt everything I said to him he always respond back that I against him and not support his business 😢😭.
So I've been in it almost 3 years now. I do pretty well in it. And yes majority of people will fail it because they're focused on the wrong things. Im VERY thankful I had someone who knew what they were doing show me... otherwise I'd be screaming scam too. If you're down I can share my experiences and the way I went about it and maybe that'll shed some insight on it all.
Sis ill be honest, I'd leave him. There is only so much you can do for a person, and if you're in your relationship for the long-term, your finances are going to be joined at some point. You dont want or need someone who's making you feel the you're "not supportive enough". You have to put yourself first, because once someone is in an MLM, it is only themselves that can get them out. Or crippling debt
@Angela Le I'm actually editing a video where I more or less answer this question but I'll answer it here as well. This is tricky and what I say may not be helpful to your specific situation. I know when I was in Amway, there wasn't anything anyone could say (who wasn't in Amway) that could change my mind about the business. BUT I was very thankful that I hadn't alienated my loved ones while I was in Amway because they were there to support me when I left. Because of this, I'm a big believer that you can't pull anyone away from what they believe to be their dream/help them achieve their dreams; All you can do is love and support them so that they know they have someone in their corner if they choose to leave the business...THAT BEING SAID I don't know your relationship with your boyfriend (how long you've been together, living together, shared values, etc.) so I don't know if this will be helpful to you at all. Hope everything works out for you!!
They always pray on those who are struggling. They are not worth it unless they have something that you like the best. Conklin was another company that was the same way. They had good fertilizer for growing crops but then they expected those selling it to have a smaller commission and work harder. Work hard and smart and stay away from those too good to be true companies.
I'm watching this because I'm about to join Amway. My friend started going hardcore with her Amway business in the last year and is now making $40,000 a year. That's what I noticed. She brought it up once, a year and a half ago, and i looked into it but said no b/c i wanted to try something else. But now that i have an eCom business, I can see how their business model works. I guess, I'm not sure why this business model has such negativity associated with it.
It's a pyramid scheme with a "product." The product is simply a legal loophole that keeps the FTC from shutting them down. And I don't believe your friend is making $40k a year. Don't believe that at all.
@@rtoma1974 It’s not a pyramid scheme and their compensation plan actually allows $40k a year pretty easily if built correctly. I don’t work with Amway myself but I am familiar with their business model and pay structure and it’s all legit. There are other companies that are legitimately a pyramid scheme but most have had to be shut down because pyramid schemes are illegal. Amway is a very old company and would’ve been shut down by now. There’s a difference between an MLM and a pyramid scheme. Amway is actually the blueprint that other MLMs base their structure on.
Honestly I am glad that you chose to follow what you wanted to go for and that Amway was able to teach you something to use in your personal life and I believe theres no bad or good its just choices and a journey for you to keep what you learned and use it for other things 💙
i've recently been approached and am just now figuring out it's not for me. the interview 6-step process is so time consuming/intensive that i didn't know what the company was even called until step 3 basically. Amway doesn't have a good reputation so that's probably why they hold off telling you but i'd rather they rip the band aid off
You hit the nail on the head. When I was being coached in Amway on how to approach other people, we were told to not mention Amway by name until it was absolutely necessary BECAUSE the name has negative connotations. They also usually make it a longer process to join to give it an exclusive feeling.
Thanks for you honest opinion. I am amid the recruiting process and I am backing out. I am honestly aware about how you mentioned they treat people differently ooutsidethe MLM. I have noticed how my “mentor” uses certain language to make me feel a certain way. He specifically made me reflect on how leaving might be a bad decision and will have repercussions. In my opinion it can’t be that easy to make passive income. Good luck to anyone who is trying out this but it is honestly not for me.
Asking you to consider the repercussions of leaving is valid, especially if you aren't on another path to getting what you want out of life, HOWEVER, if they're telling you that making a passive income through a contract with Amway will be easy, they're confused or they're lying. No one who is successful using this business model will say it was easy. If you have other means of being successful and you already have an ideal path for yourself that Amway would disrupt more than enrich, it definitely isn't for you, and that's OK.
Whenever they say they own a small business or something like that I love to ask questions that make them squirm. "Oh, you own this business?? Where do you supply your packaging ive been looking for boxes like that!" "How did you pick that colour scheme? Id love some tips!" "Who did your product photography for the website? Id love to hire them!" "There's a typo on the website, when can you fix it?" "Where do you source [ingredient] its so hard to get here!"
Just had the missus bring her friend over & spoke to us about this.... She explained to us that its a great way to make money. When i asked how to you make money.... She told me i needed to watch a power point presentation...... My spider senses started to tingle... As soon as she left i youtube it and now im here. Thanks for sharing your experience.
A former colleague of mine approached me some time ago to have a coffee and to speak about some business opportunity. As I remembered him as a nice guy I agreed and was really happy to see him, although I found some sentences to be weird before our meeting. He worked in IT and I though it was about some startup, but it turned out quite quickly that he was only interested in getting me into amway. I was quite upset, especially when I found out that a big part of his sentences was more or less scripted, starting with having a coffee and that freedom blabla. I felt sorry for him, wishing him all the best and that he'd find what he's looking for in life.
I dipped after the first seminar. The couple that recruited me were nice people but the guy kinda downplayed me through the phone the day after when i told him that im not interested anymore saying “what do you mean??”, “its like im talking to a whole new person”, “I thought we were building trust??.” 😂😂😂Just run away from the opportunity while you still can.
I left after like 2-3 months, everyone felt like they were hypnotized. I just didn't feel it anymore and just quit. Apparently i had some high uplines who kept telling me not to. I just shut the door, standing up for myself. I know it can be tough but you do what makes you feel right
After 2 initial phone conversations and 3 zoom meetings with the couple that attempted to hypnotize me, I declined the first seminar zoom meeting scheduled for today evening 😂😂😂
@@buffsamuraifred6037 checkmate 🤣. Glad you freed yourself from such illusions. I was seriously thinking about getting into it and was almost to the point where I had to shell out 300$ to start trying amway products and begin selling them. They turn into complete douchebags when you decide its not what you wanted to pursue 😂
Suppose you owned a shoe store and you sent your salesman to a foreign country to open a new market. The salesman comes back and says its no good boss; they don't wear shoes over there. What would your response be?
Smh. I already had the coffee(hot chocolate for me) meeting but I already knew what was coming. I also had a free lunch meeting with a couple that works for World Ventures. They can miss me with the “pyramid schemes” but I’ll take the free meals!
A friend of mine has been to several meetings with them. He hasn't paid for anything yet but he's been digesting self help books like crazy. He's meeting at night with all kinds of people. Says he likes it so far but only because he hasn't paid a dime. But hes gonna pay 200 eventually for a "business license." I told him to be careful. This almost seems cultish.
In my opinion, it’s alright to ghost people that we don’t know because we’re not entitled to talk to them. Ghosting complete strangers isn’t rude...it’s setting a boundary!
Pyramid schemes are the rat race!!!! Reverse psychology. Your current situation is always a blessing! Today is the gift not the future. It’s not promised. But today? We are here. Enjoy it❤️
I don’t like feeling pressured to do something, and I felt very pressured to DO something. And that didn’t sit well with me. Plus I have an eye for people who are not very genuine. So I cut ties very quickly. The only thing I regret is wasting my time. But I did read a pretty good book they recommended similar to you.
I personally don’t see it as a pyramid scheme & trust me I do my research on every “too good to be true” opportunity. It literally all depends on YOU! & also the people in your up line & down line. If they are very supportive you will definitely benefit. If your in it for the money then you’ll see it as a pyramid scheme but if your in it to TRULY help yourself & your family / friends then you’ll grow in ways you never imagined.
One of my friend just called me and building relationship regarding this amway and before i take any action i go through your video and it clears each and everything what i actually thought. just like you said you wanna be an actor same as my aim is to be the in the CIVIL SERVICES and worl for my nation. thaks a lot for this video. LOVE FROM INDIA 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
You can still do both, the civil services and Amway... Your business in Amway could even fund your studies for civil services... It's a business that will help you build a passive income stream.
I’ve been approached with this and when you said you can pick people out who do this easily it hit me hard. They always make it out to be super exclusive, say words like ‘good fit’ and ‘buisness opportunity’ and I can see it from a mile away now
Not all people have that approach. Its called bad business. The model only works if people help people. People dont have good intent at times and people wre people. Not everyone is doing that. Thats like saying because most marriages in america end in divorce… sooo should i steer away from woman who can potentially grow into being my wife? People cheat everywhere but doesnt mean you follow those people. Its just common sense. Theres bad doctors, priest, trainers , cops etc. mo different. Just use common sense cuz your talking from your experience and perspective and that isn’t everyones. Allow people to figure it out and investigate an opportunity that is changing millions of lives, just not yours apparently
Sorry you went through that. I’m watching this now because a couple from my church approached me to talk about a business network. Me being a business loan consultant I figured a zoom call about it wouldn’t hurt. I just got off the call and want my 30 minutes back . At this point they didn’t mention the name Amway but I already know. I had a Slight feeling when I met them but, since they are members from my church, I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I’m 40 years old and been around the block. I’ve had friends suckered in 20 years ago. I also went to a Primerica meeting (another big pyramid) which I dodged joining as a teenager. When I asked what products they sell and who they are affiliated with, they danced around the question and expect me to drive a hour and a half to NYC for their cult gathering. I’m upset because I thought they genuinely wanted to be friends and I actually have a legit referral program for people sending me business loan clients. Glad you got out and don’t feel bad for ghosting them.
Question. I was at the gym and this girl approached me and said “what do you do for a living? Do you love it is it your dream?” Then I proceed to tell her what I’m doing and she said she works as a mentorship and she learned from another mentor about mentorship and it changed her life. She said she quit her 9-5. I asked what is it? She said it’s a mentorship program. I said is it e-commerce ? She said sort of. I asked if there’s a website she said no. Scam?
So sorry to hear that I’ve had so much success from it from single to engaged and married. We paid off both cars and had debt free wedding. There are so many ways to make money in the world I hope you find what works for you
Ah, that was a fun three years for me as a PSDD. The real money was in those books and functions, not the business itself. My main take-away was Positive Mental Attitude is complete crap because you can't think your way out of situations you behaved yourself into. Thanks for sharing.
I'm in with amway right now, and I really wish I could of came across this video, I'm thinking now just get out. The products are to pricey and the points the products got it's not alot at all, for me to make 100 points I have to spend 330 and some change dollars, I have spent more than what I earned. And the "mentor" that I have takes it personally when put stuff like that out there
It's pretty easy to feel like you have to stick with something especially if you've spent money and time and have built relationships around it. But it really helped me to remember that it's ok to quit something if its not serving/helping you no matter how much you've invested into it.
Nah, you dont earn money by only earning PV point , you earn more by achieveing higher pin and expand your network , that doesnt make you earn much if you are earning Pv point hoping in return for monthly bonus
They literally tell you personal use is fine but it wont make you any crazy money (maybe $20-$50 a month). The real flow comes when you get downlines. All products have a price. Buy from Walmart and the price is your health. Buy from Amway and its a little more expensive but better for you.
So basically, you did not waste your money, every business requires some financial sacrifice and or investment. You also used your own products-some products are actually high quality. Some people like being a manager and teaching and marketing and sales, it was not for you and that is great you found your passion.
Thank you so much for telling your story. My Father has been in Away for 21 years he has never earnt any money but still believes that it is going to make him a multi-millionaire. He spends his days prospecting people at shopping centres. It is a tragic story. I would love to see your reaction of the MLM Movie Welcome to Life Amway had this movie banned for 12 years but today it is unbanned and free for all to see on RUclips.
My parents were in Amway in the 90s. My parents lost their house in 1997, and later My dad passed away and had absolutely no life savings left. To this day My mom REFUSES to admit part of that was attributed to this MLM, or that it is a MLM.in the first place. She legitimately will not accept that, or that this is a scam company. I do wonder how different my family's life would have been if Amway wasn't in the picture.
It all depends on who you are working with. My up line is amazing and has helped me quit my job and I’m looking to retire by the time I’m 35 currently 26 years old. Sorry about your experience with Amway. Saying that a company is “bad” just because you had a poor experience is not an accurate judgment on the company as a whole. Amway has helped millions of people become debit free and living the life free from corporate America.
Exactly!!! She’s using Amway to make money right now! This video is just to build your likes and views! What’s better than bad mouthing Amway. We love it cause we make money and we’re not average
I joined Amway Australia. I went to a conference in Canberra. It's electrifying. I left afterward. The products I ordered, I never used them hehe. Church people got me into it.
Thank you. Just had a meeting with someone I just met. She was a lovely person but it took so long to even mention the name of the company…Amway. I like many of their products but not sure I can handle the culture.
I was approached by someone too, and scheduled a meeting. I already had a strong feeling that this was about Amway. When I asked them if it as Amway, they would always beat around the bush, there was also a point where they said that it wasn’t. I stayed persistent, and eventually got it out from them, and they admitted that it was Amway 😂
Amway has been around for over 60 years. If it was a scam they would been shut down years ago. This isn’t for everyone. If it’s not for you that’s fine......just don’t assume your bad experience is normal
@Chaz Philips I have access to people who make 50k plus plus plus. The notion of nobody make a any money is just an excuse from people who just don’t do the work.
@@rtoma1974 get your facts please. They own the Orlando magic nba team who plays at the Amway center. You must think Nike, I under armor, Home Depot, Best Buy are scans too then because those companies are partnered with Amway. “Mic drop”
Hey Danielle, I’ve been an Amway IBO for almost a 6 months now and you know it’s been tough to get things rolling even with mentor guidance. Now I personally don’t believe it’s a pyramid scheme, however it is difficult to make a living doing this. I am a self motivated and positive person anyways, but since you left what do you do with the spare time now? You working a 9 to 5 still? I only got involved to make passive income… anything helps, thank you!
7 steps to gaining cult members can translate to recruiting MLM members. replace God and faith with financial freedom. follow these steps > step 1: find an opportunist (someone at a crossroads in life) explain you found the key to financial freedom step 2: soft sell. ask about financial and life choices, bring up your "mentor" in convo. Help them budget their income this will help you determine how much you can really exploit them. step 3: new reality, invite them to have coffee and say that your time and your mentors time is invaluable (its and honor just to have coffee with me) supply and demand, manipulate the demand for your mentors time step 4: the dear leader. hype up your "mentor" explain their lavish lifestyle and how they innocently want to help people toward financial freedom step 5: external enemies. create an Us V.S Them mentality. we're hustlers the rest of society is lazy. this will help with the isolation process. step 6: peer pressure. invite them to the meeting with mostly MLM members (what an honor 🙄) they'll help reinforce your ideology. Love-bombing is very important here. Every member has to exaggerate how the recruit is so lucky to be attending and reinforce the false demand for a seat at this meeting. step 7: introduce the narcissist. invite them to a meeting with your mentor or their mentor (your upline). The job of the charismatic narcissistic leader is to exploit the members for money. social scientists studied how Jim Jones and other cult leaders gained power. After evaluation they determined these are the 7 steps. In modern society religious cults are less prolific but you can translate their methods by replacing God with money.
I met my late husband, he was the best an in his friend group. We ended up no longer doing anyway but applied those nuggets to our lives. I became a Saha mom and my husband a 6 figure IT professional. Relearned friends with our holiness who eventually quit by doing the same and building their own businesses with the knowledge they received through anyway. All of them became successful slightly in always but mostly outside. I’m thankful for amway turned quixtar
"business opportunity" is always the code word for MLM
It really is, especially if they don’t want to give details until you go to the “meeting” and it’s very cult like. Everyone was extremely nice and smiled almost too much. I can honestly say i was in a very vulnerable state at the time i joined which was 2016. I felt like i was getting nowhere in life so it was a perfect time for someone to motivate me to try something new and think outside the box. I left amway after about 5 months of seeing no one making real money and seeing the trends which is buying so many products and buying into seminars and conferences which is where amway makes the real bucks in my opinion. No one tried to help me make my business grow or downline grow. I decided to leave and good thing i joined bc i learned alot from what they do they pretty much prey on your goals and dreams and try to make it very simple by saying you buy these products anyway why not buy from a company that pays you back. Love the people, hate the business model. Now that I actually understand business after trying many things and actually starting and failing at other businesses, the numbers don’t add up. It makes no sense. Glad to have learned 😁
@@phucknaw2104 This was EXACTLY my experience (except I stayed longer :S) Very cult-like, pressure to buy sooo many new products and books and go to trained conferences. My upline were genuinly nice, likeable people but the business model doesn't work for everyone like they say it will. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Yes! 100%. Especially if they won't tell you the name of the company.
@@daniellespilchen6893 thank you for sharing yours too! You can definitely save many people from making the same mistakes we did! ☺️
@@phucknaw2104 the name of the company is the most basic information you should be given. in the future, don't set up any meetings, don't even give out your phone number if someone refuses to give you the information you need
This couple approached me in a grocery store out of nowhere. The wife said I have a very nice tie and then asked me what my interests were and they said they have the same interests. We had a great conversation. The husband then gave me his number, he kept in contact with me always checked how I was and sent me smiley faces. We then met one time at chipotle and mentioned he was a drop shipper, I never heard of that and he said we'd discuss it more next time. We then met at Panera and told me about Amway and it's pyramid scheme in detail. He'd often switch the conversation to something I was interested in and whenever I displayed the knowledge on my interest he'd say I was awesome, cool, intelligent, and you're the man. I felt like a god. He said he would send me some information on when a business lecture on Amway would be held at his house. I now know why he was so friendly. The old saying we all know "If something seems to good to be true it probably is" is true.
Lol exactly the same situation for me
That is Sad to hear, because you can make a lot of money doing Marketing and sales, especially online and honestly at that. All the major brands do it, Nike, apple, Microsoft, Muscle milk, Sephora etc. You probably had the wrong mentors or Upline-they are not suppose to push anyone to do the business and tell them your awesome your great just to get a body. I don’t know about you, but if I was trying to grow a business I want someone serious about making money, not afraid of the grind. I don’t want to have to tell them oh your great, you can do this cmon. It’s either you make money, let me help you make money or by here is your money back hit the door-good luck with your endeavors. That is why if you decide to do it you can get all your money back-and use say no. Also for products you got a six month guarantee. Send it back in six months and still get your money back? What other company does that. Most people quit because sales and marketing is not easy-the right mentors and teachers can make it harder or easier. Sorry you had that experience good luck in your endeavors.
@@mosesoliver3694 ok Amway pawn
@@mosesoliver3694 most MLMs have six month guarantee for products…
@@mosesoliver3694 correct usually its upline who mess up for not being honest the people they sharing to. I like to be upfront and say that I'm in Amway and I usually just talk about the products and they quality they give.
And most of the time, I wont force people if they are not comfortable (that's highly unprofessional ) and encourage them to question as much as possible to clarify. Tbh you must be able to withstand rejections and even insults ( very rare but I have met a couple who hurled insults at me , I just politely said " if your not comfortable or not interested, you can just say so " and I thanked them for the time and moved on ).
Me personally i aim to get customers for products first. Sharing the Amway business plan is usually second and I keep a principle of honesty and transparency before making the appointment.
The only thing what is the frequency of your effort, if you're slow and business grow very very slowly, if you're fast, the faster your growth and experience with be. If you just joined and expect everything to happen by it self, then you're in for a big disappointment.
the biggest take away for me, has been learning how to say "No", "thanks but no thanks", if youre somebody who is afraid to come across rude etc, I think there can be a tendency to be overly accommodating for people, its okay to say "NO", thanks for sharing your experiances!
@Broken Tower just happened to me I never got into it but they want me to attend a meeting a few mins and I can’t exactly say no, I just have a struggle with saying no 🥴
I struggle with this because I'm not rly a confrontation person
@@motownsyre ask about the product and just be honest if you do not really like the product.
@@williefaulker it easy nowadays since everyting is now found on the internet. Just simply say that you will just watch it online and think about it.
The one subject they don't tell them to read about hahaha
Girl I pulled out after the first video chat. It seemed very cultish. The minute they told me not to listen to my mom, I had to dip. My momma has never been wrong when it comes to my life lol. She also been researching MLM.
My parents definitely told me it was a bad idea but my relationship with them was rocky at best at the time so I refused to listen to them and chalked it up to them not being supportive. It's hard looking back and feeling stupid but I'm so glad you dodged that bullet real fast!!
Always trust your momma! They know best
I turned away when one of my close friends genuinely told me it was a pyramid. Immediately puked the kool aid and watched everything. Feels bad, thought I made a friend
It’s sooo crazy how I just received the “video” from them and it’s been 10 days. We had a few zoom calls and I thought she was gonna be a great resource as a mentor. She said she will be able to answer any questions that I may have in skincare. However, after looking at these videos and comments. I’m all set!!
I got into the makeup MLM briefly. I went to a meeting at a big hotel, and some man walked in the wrong conference room. These women chased him as he tried to leave the room, trying to sell him product. I knew right then I did not want to be like that. They also made us order tons of stuff, and I could not sell it fast enough, and then we had to order more. I was a broke young stay at home mom and just couldn't tie up all that money in product. That was many years ago.
She’s right about being able to pick them out. They speak in a very distinctive coded language with certain catchphrases. I’m not sure what’s worse, MLM’s or timeshares.
This is so true. They always approach you as a cute young couple, and start with “freedom of time” and they have the same mannerisms it’s very scary and cultish
@Pray without ceasing I’m not gonna itemize all the things that suck about them, I’ll just say that you can book a vacation anywhere in the world without having a timeshare and you’ll probably end up paying less so what’s the point of having it? This is why they do high pressure sales and offer you free stuff if you just agree to hear their pitch. Products and services that are actually good and useful don’t resort to those tactics.
Every cult has their own language and MLM's are no different.
@@enohp660I had a time-share with my ex that was 2 hours away. We maxed it out and were at our timeshare as much as possible. It worked out really good. The key for us is that it was only 2 hours away and we loved going there and the hotels were really small and significantly more expensive than the time share. The problem is most won't let you cancel but ours wasn't difficult.
I was in Amway back in the early 90's.
Made just a little bit of money. Met the girl I would marry and start a family with.
The second time the group I built all quit so did I. Went on to have a successful career in the construction industry using a lot of the ethic and what I had learned from the books and tapes.
My grandfather's friend joined Amway and annoyed the hell out of everyone he knew. Even his wife. He lost a lot of money. We laugh at him.
Finally a positive comment 👍
@@raymondwade3313 a good ending too👍🏼
@@Pdmc-vu5gj do you know what URA is
@@Pdmc-vu5gj how come I know someone who is making a lot of money?
I was in the Amway cult bc my ex was into it and I fully believed what she told me and went 100% with her. Now hear me out, yes it’s a pyramid scheme, BUT pyramid schemes do work if you do it right. If u think about it a regular job is a pyramid scheme just with a for sure paycheck: you start at an entry level and work your way up and so on. Now back to Amway. They strongly insist that you attend every meeting (which usually costs you) they strongly insist u buy books and ebooks and tapes and video, all sorts of things (when you are big enough that’s where the real money comes from). Now u have what’s called an “up line”...that’s who introduced you to the program. And your “down line” is everyone you introduced into the program. Now it only works if u sell products AND your down line sells products thus earning you a little more. “Basic business and commission”. The real money only comes in when you have a bug mass of people under u selling mass amount of product. So in theory you can potentially make money and good income u just have to have the best charisma and silver tongue to persuade others. I will admit that when I went to the meetings they made almost mandatory, that they tell you ways of how to better yourself and put these dreams in front of you to chase. After I left a lot of the words from the actual big names resonate with me still. THEY DID teach me how I needed to better myself in order to get what I want. And they did help with how to act more professional. I run my own sound engineering business and dj business but I will say I took a lot from their meetings. All the meetings they had were to just “fire you up” ( you’ll hear that a lot) but the words they spoke made sense. Hope this helped! It’s not necessarily bad but also not a quick come up!
Thank you for sharing your story, they were very motivational lol. I feel like WWG is for the few that have grit and are hard working and also have charisma like you said haha. People think that just because those people made it to "diamond" means they are too. It takes time and hard work and some people have other goals and that's alright, to each their own. Everyone has their own life and or business to think about and Amway is not for everyone. But I'm glad you got something positive out of it :)
No they do not work. They are illegal and now we have MLMs which us just a euphemism. The money is made by people at the top by selling meetings, books, and tapes. It’s exploitive. There aren’t enough people in the world to make the down line idea work. You simply run out of people.
To escape my Amway upline I had to fake my own death. Like there used to be a joke website to make your own newspaper obituary, and I made one except instead of being a funny gag, I made it super serious and convincing. My mailbox was a P.O box so they never had my real address to verify that I had died.
Wow dude you could have just not answered their calls
That's what I did.
I love this,i have pretended to b dead to an ex mean tenant i had b4 and also to a scam wig company on line who would not leave me the heck alone after i proved to my credit card company they had sent me garbage wigs not as advertised,i got my $ back and fake wig place e mailed me with threats for 8 months daily,finally i emailed them saying my mother had passed away please stop e mailing her.i never heard from them again. In future i will die in the 1st month of harrassment.
Wahahahahaha....
Now THAT was funny.....🤣
@@larryjake7783
Wow!
You are such a hero...🙄
Kind regards
@@Borgbeveiligingen why the sarcasm geez. The lack of social skills drips from you like spoiled milk
Thanks for sharing. I'm currently getting "vetted" so I've been on youtube getting other opinions. Until this process, I'd never heard of Amway. Its very much reminding me of Avon and Mary Kay. What bothered me was that during a meeting I asked about statistics: success rates and timeline to start making significant money. They fell silent and changed the subject. It was also off putting how everyone was saying literally the EXACT same thing, and failed to get to their points. They truly are very specific in how they talk. I would rather spend time investing in myself without having to come out of pocket for something that may not yield any reward.
I'm currently getting "vetted" too & right now they want me to come out of pocket to go the "summit" & honestly I wasn't hoping it wasn't a pyramid scheme
I had 2 hours before my first ever conference with amway and I was feeling so anxious about it, not out of pure nervousness of meeting new people but more so out of being put into a pyramid scheme. I showed my cousin the company and straight away knew it was a scam, then I went onto Reddit and discovered even worse things. So I’m glad I saw this before I went to the meeting. Definitely not going.
I just got In but I feel like I F up.
I agree. What you said about how specific they talk sounded kinda off to me too. I mean damn mfs started sounding like robots repeating the same thing over and over.
@@calebdejoun939 how is/was the experience with them?
I did Amway in my early 20s and it wasn’t for me. I liked the products, but they were too expensive. I also didn’t like seeing people I met as people who could be part of my business. That made those interactions superficial and I didn’t like it. I just walked away like yourself and felt better about myself when I did and didn’t look back.
I was invited also, and i just felt silly applauding for every little word that came out of their mouths and , for example one person would give a speech and someone would offer them a sip of water and all of sudden everyone else started applauding just for that, the hooray and almost mind control that we must do that like little children wasn't my cup of tea, I understand the process and the work involved but these recruiters treat you like a 2 year old, it's all basically a pyramid scheme were. The very ones in the bottom which is me by the way would end up scrubbing for leftovers, i was uncomfortable and somewhat afraid for my life since most of these individuals didn't seem like thy had personality or empathy and even looked sinister, the whole quackery charade hit me harder than a shot of tequila on Christmas eve.
thank you, currently have a friend trying to recruit my friends and I am starting to loose my patience with him, and I am very tempted to slap him in the face
I was in Amway for about two years. The only thing good I took away was to read self help books. Reading has changed my life and it was because of Amway. Never really read books until I joined. Will never be a part of another MLM again but will always be grateful I joined initially.
I am 21 years old I am a diamond ejectiv in my line I only have people from Mexico they never give up and they don't talk trash they love Amway and I love it too I pay my own University a UCLA I make more money every month then 20 people working the whole month you did not make it because you don't have real dreams because you haven't done nothing anyways not work everybody Viva Mexico my Mexican boyfriend the most popular guy in my University 22 years old he's a diamond he is under me in my line he become a diamond you only 6 months why cuz he's really have dreams he also a drummer play in a band heavy metal music very close friend of Alejandra Guzman the queen of rock and roll in Spanish he also has a friend Luis Miguel thanks to Amway
@@lindakent6147 Jesus I feel terrible for my Mexican brothers that are losing money for your dream
@@lindakent6147 that’s horrible
@@IvanGonzalez-eo5kjlmaooo when you work a job, you are working for someone else’s dream same shit. Lol
My fellow classmate tried to get me into this and they were annoyed when I said it’s a pyramid scheme
That's because your fellow classmate is super smart. How could he POSSIBLY be duped into joining a pyramid scheme??! Lol
My fellow classmate in college asked me to join her coven. I thought, wow, I have been asked in the past to join Avon, Tupperware, etc, but this was the first time I was asked to join a coven. I declined. I had 4 kids, a house to run, and a job. I had no time for witchcraft.
I don't know if anybody knows that an actual "Pyramid Scheme" is illegal.
Also, if you look at any job and the way it's set up. It actually looks like a pyramid.
It's just the way most places are set up to keep the business going. So I am sure if you looked at my job, your job, and/or anybody else's job on this thread; it would look like a pyramid.
Thank you for reading my T.E.D. talk!
Because it is not one!
@@dariousegravely9517 It's a pyramid scheme with a "product." The product is a legal loophole to keep them from getting shut down. Also, cocaine is illegal. By your logic: Cocaine is illegal therefore cocaine doesn't exist.
A woman from Amway is trying to recruit me & not gonna lie... it sounded very appealing. But after making all my research I’m gonna decline! (Very true about them pushing the self-development books & not mentioning the company at first).
Hello I am in the same situation the person is a family member actually and even after researching I am still considering it uggh I need the money. But what make you not continue it ?
@@celialusma4618 calculating the odds of me actually succeeding in this & it’s extremely low. This would take way too much time and money out of my pocket to actually make it. TIME IS MONEY, so this is just not the right “business” for me to get into. Also the products that they try to sell are completely worthless like vitamins & random stuff nobody would want to buy.
Same here currently going through this experience
it's actually kind of sad because amway does/did have some really good products, but i got tired of trying to buy them because i got tired of arguing with the dealers every time they tried to show me "the plan"... amway dealers are more interested in selling you "the plan' rather than selling amway products.
Yes! This was something we were taught. It was drilled into us that if someone likes the products you should always try to pit them the plan. Every meeting was focussed on "how often have you shown the plan?" It just showed me how little the products actually mattered.
You can go directly to the site and buy the products... you don’t have to go through a dealer
@Frater Libertas Well, isn't that the point tho? Your income depends on what the people under you are doing. So you make NADDA!
@Frater Libertas I don’t think you get the plan you will never be free when you’re with amway the whole plan is to get more people on board so you become apart of the “upline” it’s kinda known as a MLM scheme or pyramid scheme there are a million ways to better yourself and make money you make 10% profit from amway when you start for what feeding you bullshit and the most you can make is 25% so amway takes 75% of your profits use your knowledge and build yourself a business where you can make 100% of the profits realize you’re doing all the work for amway do the work for yourself and I can tell because you edited the comment you’re following strategies on how to sell amway and your lifestyle😂
@Frater Libertas you see I would agree with what you said but the funny thing is I do completely well for myself and am completely happy with my financial status everything you say sounds like you’re in a cult and are in denial of the truth I have no intention of taking this to court and this is my personal opinion of the company from the multiple money fraud allegations in multiple different countries they have settled the court cases outside of court it’s called arbitration either way they payed someone outside of court this is public information if you do one google search you can see this information I am not a flunkie and I’ve never joined amway because if you have to pay to start an IBO it’s very sketchy just because they changed there business model doesn’t mean it’s not a scam any more my point is not to hinder your success I’m trying to give you information of the company and show you that they are taking all of your money you have to sell 4X as many products to make what a real business owner is making
I can spot them from a mile away. I’ve been approached several times at grocery stores and other places and as soon as I spark up a conversation and hear them talk for 10 seconds I already know what’s coming. I usually stop them and ask them if they’re in Amway and their eyes open wide and they say yes and I just start laughing
I just got approached
😂
How can you tell?
@@usernamechecksout9901 I literally just realized it a couple minutes before heading into this meeting they’re hosting and I’m finna make an excuse and get outta there 🤣
Yeah, me too Paul. Back in the early 90's. Just sitting at the counter in a Dunkin' Donuts in San Diego. Having coffee, reading the SD Union-Tribune. Some guy about my age wearing a dress shirt and tie sits down one stool away. He started his Amway pitch. Starts asking me if I know who some guy was. Bill Blitch or something like that. One of those WWDB scumbags. I told him I was aware of Amway and wasn't interested. He kept trying. Telling me how "fired up" his wife was. Gotta hand it to him. He sure tried.
Oh my god I felt this so strongly! I just graduated and a friend from college encouraged me to be an Amway “business owner” with her. And the more I thought about it the more I felt like I was being dragged away from my craft, and I just couldn’t do it
Best way to leave Amway or any other MLM, Pyramid Scheme is to just ghost them. You did the right thing. They will try to suck you back in by giving you a guilt trip or they will ghost you.
If someone all the sudden nice to you out of blue it means they want something from you
I been in for 3 months and I'm about to discontinue my relationship with Amway.
Congratulations
Quitting after just 3 months? Maybe the supposedly 90% who fail have this same attitude. Your sponsor obviously has not taught you the five steps which you MUST do to succeed in this industry. LEADS - CONTACT - APPOINTMENT - PRESENTATION - FOLLOW-UP = CUSTOMER/REP = $$$
@@stevenhull5025 Sounds like they’ve got you hook line and sinker. Right where they want you! #Scam
Great decision Keith, RUN!!!
@@stevenhull5025 I made my decision and I'm standing by it because I felt uncomfortable after witnessing too many red flags.
So I don't know if you have ever heard of this but here in NZ there is a saying that "never do business with your family and friends"
Don’t be ashamed in how you walked away. I am a writer and actress living in public housing and was just sold this dream. From the jump I was EXTREMELY bored but thought I was being childish and that it was a new thing so I may be uncomfortable at first. This past Saturday I went to a meeting and the worship of the leaders was to intense. Especially as a born again Christian it was very unwell with my spirit. Thanks for this video. You and God have helped me make my decision ♥️
Hey! I am also a born again Christian, and I was In acting school for some time. Can I contact with you? Would you give me your Instagram? Hanna
I felt the exact same way! Amway was the biggest 10-year head-ache of my life. My main issue, amongst many, were the people posing as Christians using God's Word out of context to further their own interests. Just the thought of attending another one of those meetings makes me nauseous.
@@raven.art1717 TEN YEARS?! Oh my…
@@nsikanakpan1200 Ten years and an estimated 20,000.00 between tools, weekly, monthly, quarterly conference tickets, gas, hotels, books, CDs. An that's not including monthly product orders.
@@raven.art1717 I’m glad you made it out safely
Just got off a one hour zoom call for a “business opportunity” and he literally showed me an image of basically a pyramid and how he’s part of amway. It’s funny how similar my experience is to everyone in the comments, but I’m happy I didn’t get dragged in any further or actually put any money in.
The person who suckered my husband into it slipped up once and blabbed how the "diamonds" made most of their money. Thank GOD that opened his eyes and got out. The diamonds make the majority of their money forcing their downline to buy the tapes of their speachs, inviting you to their house then wanting a big fee for the "privilege" of attending...etc.
Oh that's horrible. While many of them are professional "motivational speakers" like you describe, I have to admit that they usually also have successful companies in construction, finances, etc.
@@d2vid5 but they want you to think it all came from Amway
I’m sorry but that simply is not true. I’m sorry you’ve had a bad experience but please don’t assume your negative experience is normal. If you understand how the comp plan works then your tune will change. Again sorry you had a negative experience
@@22shroomster I understand how the complete plan works. Everyone I know that got sucked into Amway feels the way I do. Some did wake up to the BS until 10 years later and they were broke
@@boudicacelticwarrior1481 if you understand then you have no excuse. The only people who lose money are the ones who treat it like a hobby. Sorry you had a bad experience.
Thanks for sharing, Danielle! I recently watched a Netflix documentary that mentioned that over 90% of people in an MLM lose money. So many people get taken advantage of! I'm glad you're out.
Thank YOU for watching and taking the time to comment! I'm pretty happy to be out of that MLM myself haha.
What’s the name of the documentary?
Shayne Depree I don’t remember unfortunately, it might have been part of History 101 on Netflix as I just watched that?
Lauren Allen thanks for your reply. I’ll look into that!
@@shaynebarron82 I think now it was part of (Un)Well on Netflix!
Thank you so much for sharing this! I’m currently trying to get recruited by two guys and i’ve been debating if it’s worth it all bc it’s not at all what I want to do with my life and pyramid schemes are ALWAYS A RED FLAG. I wanna drop them now but ugh I wish I could just ghost them haha.
Best advice that I can give you is to not waste your time on something that isn’t promising. I hope you have a better job line up for you than a pyramid scheme.
Tell them to f**k off, im in direct sales with straight commission and got pitched this b.s and straight up told them during the zoom meeting when they did the amway reveal that they just wasted 2 valuable hours of my life in front of everyone, maybe its the salesman in me thats willing to say anything to anyone specially if they're wasting my time.
@@julianngo5263 its not a pyramid. a pyramid scheme is a coperate job
@@beast_232 Both are pyramid schemes now what?
Amway rep^
Thank you so much for sharing! I actually been apart of Amway for about 4 months and they are tryna keep me back in and I am finally leaving Amway and Melaleuca at the same time since I got ended with both of them in the first place. This is a catastrophe and you really spoke your truth! Continue to do what's best for you👏🏽
I just ghosted my upline💀
They are always nice. That's part of the plan. They want something from you
Or, it's just a better way to live and they preach positivity and know that honey gets more flies than vinegar?? Lol.
Look, I think amway is hells cultists. I'm in amway. The positivity is cringey. My wife gets mad at me every time I roll my eyes at some of shit they say. The products and their affiliations are solid- do they hype their shit up, yeah - it would be counterintuitive to not and secondly, i don't think we've had any one return the products and more people than not repeat[without us having to pester the shit out of them] (thus they aight).
But the idea that wow these f'ers are so nice to me, I shouldn't buy their decent ahit or use their dropshipping style web link to buy Nike gear cuz I want rude, ugly styled people to sell me my shit is bananas. Lol
I just love your unbiased view on your MLM experience... any people I come across speak of only the negatives and claim that there's nothing good to pick from it.
Just to be clear for anyone that is not, and has never been in Amway. Amway does put on ‘Dreambuilding Events’ and they can be spectacular. However, they are ticketed events which mean you the ‘Independent’ (but follow the rules) Amway Agent pay for the event. In short: Amway puts it on, to motivate / manipulate you, and you pay for it.
I don’t know if you are aware, but they do make a cut from self development books. So if you buy them, do it from Amazon 🥰
Most of the time the books are cheaper through them than Amazon actually even with them making a cut
A former coworker of mine is in Amway, he is a pretty smart guy and he knows is a piramid scheme and that he has been scammed for years, the problem is that he is so deep in that he hasnt been able to convince himself to just quit, i can see it in his eyes every time i see him. I hope he gets the guts to leave soon, I mountain bike with his son often and he was able to quit right when he started college and he is not coming back, hopefully he convinces his dad soon.
Don't be ashamed for going through all that. It's a blessing that you are sharing this with the world because it is such a secret organization and it's such a relief to hear an authentic story about them
Don’t be fooled brah she is straight CAPPIN for views
@@dominicpupillo4660 mm. Doesn’t seem likely. Nothing indicates any lies or doesn’t make sense.
@@randydeinlein1351 exactly
@@randydeinlein1351 she is. . . People make more than 6 figures in this business, she thinks it's a scam because she never did her part, leveraged herself and put in the work she needed too, people like her quit to easily and don't understand that you need to actually do work.
@@Yahovahs_Angel "she thinks its a scam because she never did her part" is quite an accusation. She made it pretty clear why she thinks its a scam, and it had nothing to do with her feeling she couldn't handle the demands or do her part. She used logic and reason and found the company to be unethical and manipulative.
I'm glad I just saw this video bc everything you said was true. They almost had me with their sales pitch
same here!
They got me, luckily I only embarrassed myself in front of one friend. Now we joke about it. Not another soul though
Me too just got approached sadly so much bad press i won't do it
This is such a good testimony of: If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is....I read all the time, the only difference is mine is the Bible, not what other people think I need to do to be successful.
Thanks for putting yourself out there. You are a trooper.
AMENNNN
Yes Amen to that.
These schemes are just a distraction.
Store up your treasure in heaven.✌🏼
You feel bad for ghosting them? I’m already planning on what to say on the weekly meeting. This is wrong and hope to warn others enough to get out of it
It's great to see you've grown a lot since then ❤ ...years later you finally realized -> maybe thanks to that "baad positive thinking self-improvement books" 😃you still reading
Amway is like signing up to sell drugs as a dealer in the ghetto. The amount of times the drugs changes hands from the fields of Columbia to your hands is probably in the double or triple figures. Of course the product price is expensive for the customer. It cost amway a fortune just to get the product to the salesman who sells it to the customer. There are too many disturbutors in amway all taking a slice of the customer's payment. This means you the salesman get less of the pie too.
This is why Amazon is the more successful and respected company while amway is the most hated. Amazon cares about the customer while amway cares about profits. The only way to make money in amway is to recruit others to take your position as the salesman. Its a system that rewards deception as a practice.
Drugs is not sold just in the "ghetto".
Amazon is not a direct sales company. Amway is the highest network direct sales business in the world. Not giving an opinion. Just thought I'd leave you with facts.
@@joshapaul9381 no you are correct. Amazon doesn't do direct selling. But in 2020. Everyone hates direct selling companies. It's annoying to have solicitors at your door. With the amount of scammers as today as well. Most direct sellers are assumed to be scammers. To be honest, the business practice isn't that much different. You feel scammed when you realize how much you over paid for the product when you find it somewhere cheaper. It's also not premium products as marketed. Many reviews and comparisons prove the quality isn't any better than what you find in e-commerce or retail.
It's a terrible business model when the majority of your profit comes from your own employees buying products they can't sell. I'd consider that a scam.
@@YTStopCensoringFreedomOfspeech I see. Personally I have used Amway products and found to be very good. I know there's a lot of people who hate Amway. But there is a reason its a 10 billion dollar company, I don't think you can be a billion dollar company and sell shit products, people aren't idiots. Theres a lot of people who love the products as well. People who have positive views just aren't as oud as people with a negative view on it. If anyone has a problem with the price of the products then don't buy it lmao, don't blame the business.
Personally I think the amway business opportunity could be brilliant when used right but can also be used by people in not the best ways.
My experience was/has been fantastic! Don't let one person's negative experience prevent you from giving it a try for yourself. Of all the MLMs, Amway is by far the most reputable.
Also remember, everyone builds the Amway opportunity differently. So, while some can come off "cultish" and pushy, that does not mean that everyone you run into builds their business that way.
Out of all the shit, pig shit is the most reputable.
Must be one of your upline's better prospectors. Hook the suckers and haul them in. Bleed them dry. Take their rent and food and gas money to keep "growing". Be your own best customer. What a crock of ****.
Amway is still a MLM. That will never change the fact. But Amway is not something you will get success in a blink of eye. You should be consistent and never be obsessed. It sells daily life product. Just shop what you need. Try everything that you think you are interested. Share with people if you like it. Or make a refund if you dont like it. It’s simple. I found out people is soo obsessed in successing in short time. You even need to crawl before you run tho. Dont be rushed and fall into bankruptcy
So far your comment make some sense compare to others, yup nothing come fast , you must earn from it
Love your comment friend there's is no microwave business out there meaning get rich quick that functions as a real business like you said it takes time first you have to develop your self get your mind right ect,etc you have to get that leadership mind set because you going to leading a lot of people into your business, so yes it takes time. I totally agree with you with the use of the products and everything👍🏽👍🏽
Ah I love this comment... Amway is simply a company that is successful for the people who work hard, and isn’t for the lazy. I love it really
@@teppyyyy6414 Oh poor dear. Work as hard as you like, you will never see the riches they promise you...
@@teppyyyy6414 Poor deluded soul.
So after listening to your story it seems that to me, you really got a lot out of Amway. You may not have stuck with it but to this day it has changed you for the better. 22yrs ago I signed up, did everything you did but for me I had a poor self image of myself which I feared talking to anyone who was in a better life situation than I was, which was just about everyone. I loved the seminars, being around upline and the education and motivation. Though I never did anything with the business, I dont regret it one bit. The time, money and tools, all worth it bc I learned more about personal growth and business in 3yrs than I ever did in school or the negative ppl we surround ourselves with. Thanks for sharing your story!
I'm curious as to how much you learned. I'm in one of these now and everything they teach is literally common sense. I haven't learned one thing that I didn't already know. I can see how people grow from this, but at the same time... it doesn't seem like this complex mentorship. They just applaud everything you do and make you feel good.
@@Steven-zo6uz I can see how that might come across. I think a lot of it is just being surrounded by people who are trying to be positive and encouraging, things that in general ppl do not do for others.
I was an IBO several years ago. It was not a scheme, I learned more about business and leadership way more than I ever learned in college. It's not for everyone, just say that. But some of the greatest people I ever met
I didn't have to be in an MLM to recognize a scam/pyramid scheme. Some people are so desperate for connections and doing the least work possible to be rich. It blinds them to the ovious.
A friend of mine tried to get me in this almost 20 years ago, I went to a couple of meeting, but I decided not to, haven't talked to him since LOL. Do they still do "the plan" presentation
To my knowledge, yes! Some things never change lol
And they are earning more than you not only money but also they are earning time .LOL
Oh boy!
Did you live another day?🙄
Kind regards
Exactly my experience.
Yes
i've literally just had a friend approach me about it......i met with her and her mentor to be nice but....i just don't think i wanna do it
Its not worth your time or money. If I were you. I would politely tell your friend you are not interested. If she feels bad, she might try to guilt trip you. They honestly have scripts to tell your buds that dont want to join up. Something along the lines of "You know.. I am about to be so busy, you might not see me again after I walk away." Let em walk. You'll be avoiding unnecessary stress and spending.
How dah fuck you gonna let this Goofy Goobers influence you, Amway dah way if it's not Amway then it's ah scheme
@@Skinchenzo your a millionaire what's the best option for me to get like you😭
@@rigbanz7708 I was younger and like a good ammount of people I thought, why not lets see what happens. I'm human. I'm allowed to make mistakes. I don't really get why you would try to clown over my comment, but whatever.
Plz run
Good for you. Glad you got out and shared your story. MLM’s are very manipulative and you see to have a great head on your shoulders. All the best.
Thanks so much for sharing your story! I was recently approached by someone I met in a training course who told me that he was being mentored by a group of successful business people to have financial freedom and earn passive income. But he didn't mention Amway at all and what they are actually doing to achieve that. I was curious and wanted to meet his mentor.
So we had a few zoom meetings and I attended to one of their group sessions as well, in which there were about 200+ people. To be honest, their approach in self-development and the books/resources they recommended were quite useful and I found that aspect sensible.
But after attending to a few sessions as a part of the recruitment process I decided to step back and do a bit of research and reflect on how my life would look like if I proceed with them. This video is one of the rare ones I found useful but I had already told them that I don't want to continue with the process. Because although I think people in the group have right mindset in terms of personal growth, financial freedom and business, the problem with Amway is that the focus is always on recruiting new people, which in itself provides no value to anyone at all. You either promote a products of a company in a similar fashion to a salesperson or trying to convince people to join you to do the same so it's a kind of self-fulfilling prophecy where no one is creating any value but because of the involvement and the investment that is being done by the followers there's a movement.
And also I had some conversations before with people who were in similar businesses and the problem with them is that you can never be sure if they're genuinely interested in getting to know and connect with you or if they're trying to recruit you into their business. So I didn't want to turn into one of those people. In general I think the mindset is right but the area they apply that mindset is not so much.
The issue I have with the Amway process i encountered is/was; this guy randomly contacted me over Facebook (we were in the same group together) and then we got talking about life, my goals and dreams etc.
Then he started telling me that he may be able to speak to his mentor to help me and that he 'can't promise anything' etc. So I just went with it, thinking that maybe this is just one of those opportunities of a lifetime to be mentored at something I'm really interested in (coaching, starting fitness and health retreats etc).
3 meetings in, the guy starts talking about amway, products, how 'what you read online about Amway is crap' etc. THIS HERE IS THE ISSUE. When I initially started speaking to that guy through fb, in no way, shape or form did I mention wanting to sell products and be involved in that shit. So why the hell would you set up all these meetings/get me to read books etc and invest time in me (and me in them), without actually telling me what the hell I'm getting involved in. I thought that maybe he had liked my idea about health/fitness etc and was willing to invest time into it, it's pretty bloody stupid to be honest.
As soon as i found out it was Amway I respectfully declined to both of them..but maybe if they'd been transparent from the start, they would've saved time and energy for both of us (so it confuses me as to why the hell they aren't just upfront, as they're losing out too).
Anyway, I don't necessarily think they were bad dudes, seem pretty intelligent etc but such lack of transparency shows alot about someone, regardless of whether they've been brainwashed or not. I do agree regarding the personal development books though, they definitely mentioned that alot, and that's something I'll take away.
I personally think that Amway is a legit company but the vast majority fall at it. It also seems to reel people in and has cultish vibes to it as well.
It's funny because I had the same experience years ago with amway here in Greece where I live. I also wanted to be an actor and after a while I realized that this kind of business wasn't for me. So I walked out of that. Also I agree with you about the books of self improvement are really important and helpful but you must be careful about the trap of staying in the self improvement world without really put those tools and strategies in real life where you can see results.
With all due respect, that’s how it works with any business. You have people above you and people below you. But you quit because you want to be an actor. If you’re a person who just keeps working dead end job to dead end job with no career path, I don’t see a problem with giving it a shot. Not only are trying to build a business, but you’re trying to build yourself. I have been approached my entire life with Amway opportunities, but this time I’m actually going to give it a shot.
I hope it works out too. I recently started my business with amway and I’m not gonna let these negative comments turn me down. We gonna make it
I hope her acting career wasn't damaged.
But how good are their products? I find very good products in super markets which do not cost much as Amway! So, why should i buy them??
Their makeup and skincare honestly sucks, especially considering the fact that they cost as much as high end products from Sephora and MAC. Some of their food is good, some sucks, but either way they’re super pricy. The granola bars are good but they’re not $40 a box good lol. The ONLY products I still enjoy are the home products but with all of the damage they do to people I probably won’t be purchasing more when I finally run out
I really love skincare. When someone told me that Artistry was one of the top brands, I decided to check them out.
Their ingredient lists are super lengthy for just a moisturizer or toner.
Sun protection is important so I checked their sunscreen out as well. The UV filters are basic, such as octocrylene, zinc oxide, octisalate, what have you. Grab a Coppertone, Garnier or any sunscreen and UV filters won't differ much.
I ended it with a clear voice mail to my upline:
_"Hey Bill! I'm no longer interested in being a mindless drone for Amway anymore. I'm done! Two things you ought to know though -- do not try to contact me and this phone will self destruct after this call. Bye-bye!"_
Wait ain't this suppose to be your own business? Yes friend you did the right thing except the brainless drone part you where never brainless I admired you getting into business for your self to take care of your family and your self that's all👍🏽🙋🏾♂️
LMAOOOOO I LOVE THAT
Thank you for this substantial video. You saved me from making a decision to return to them after rejecting their offer. 🙏🏿
I joined Amway on 24th Feb, now am thinking to quit. 🥺 I don't talk much, for people like me it's hard.
Then don't talk to them at all. Amway is not good.
Hopefully you quit by now but if you haven’t, this is your wake up call! Yesterday you said tomorrow, JUST DO IT !!!
@Jordi Sotelo yea please ask
@@skateboardhigh I resigned long ago. My uplink was meeehhhh!!
Not only that my recruiter always forced me to use up my salary and buy Amway products. 😡
Thanks for sharing your experience! I was in an MLM in the early 90’s called Melaluca. They still have great products that I occasionally still buy, but the recruiting side of it wasn’t for me.
I think your were okay to ghost your up line. They usually resort to gaslighting their down line when they express interest in leaving and guilt them into staying. It doesn’t make you a bad person for ghosting them, it was better for you to practice self care mentally and emotionally and make a clean break. If they were your true friends they would still be in your life, Amway or not.
My boyfriend joined Amway for two years already and I don’t know what to do to drag him out of this type of business. He even wants me to join with him with the hope that I will change my mind later to do the Amway business with him. I showed your video to him and the only things he told me that you are not working hard enough 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️so that why you leave. I don’t know what to do since I felt everything I said to him he always respond back that I against him and not support his business 😢😭.
So I've been in it almost 3 years now. I do pretty well in it. And yes majority of people will fail it because they're focused on the wrong things. Im VERY thankful I had someone who knew what they were doing show me... otherwise I'd be screaming scam too. If you're down I can share my experiences and the way I went about it and maybe that'll shed some insight on it all.
Sis ill be honest, I'd leave him.
There is only so much you can do for a person, and if you're in your relationship for the long-term, your finances are going to be joined at some point.
You dont want or need someone who's making you feel the you're "not supportive enough". You have to put yourself first, because once someone is in an MLM, it is only themselves that can get them out. Or crippling debt
@@thisisacrappyusername892 despite my other comment... I also agree with this.
@Angela Le I'm actually editing a video where I more or less answer this question but I'll answer it here as well. This is tricky and what I say may not be helpful to your specific situation. I know when I was in Amway, there wasn't anything anyone could say (who wasn't in Amway) that could change my mind about the business. BUT I was very thankful that I hadn't alienated my loved ones while I was in Amway because they were there to support me when I left. Because of this, I'm a big believer that you can't pull anyone away from what they believe to be their dream/help them achieve their dreams; All you can do is love and support them so that they know they have someone in their corner if they choose to leave the business...THAT BEING SAID I don't know your relationship with your boyfriend (how long you've been together, living together, shared values, etc.) so I don't know if this will be helpful to you at all. Hope everything works out for you!!
@@daniellespilchen6893 thier biggest flaw is inexperienced people teaching inexperienced people how to run business. Most the time its a mess for sure
They always pray on those who are struggling. They are not worth it unless they have something that you like the best.
Conklin was another company that was the same way. They had good fertilizer for growing crops but then they expected those selling it to have a smaller commission and work harder.
Work hard and smart and stay away from those too good to be true companies.
I'm watching this because I'm about to join Amway. My friend started going hardcore with her Amway business in the last year and is now making $40,000 a year. That's what I noticed. She brought it up once, a year and a half ago, and i looked into it but said no b/c i wanted to try something else. But now that i have an eCom business, I can see how their business model works. I guess, I'm not sure why this business model has such negativity associated with it.
It's a pyramid scheme with a "product." The product is simply a legal loophole that keeps the FTC from shutting them down. And I don't believe your friend is making $40k a year. Don't believe that at all.
@@rtoma1974 It’s not a pyramid scheme and their compensation plan actually allows $40k a year pretty easily if built correctly. I don’t work with Amway myself but I am familiar with their business model and pay structure and it’s all legit. There are other companies that are legitimately a pyramid scheme but most have had to be shut down because pyramid schemes are illegal. Amway is a very old company and would’ve been shut down by now. There’s a difference between an MLM and a pyramid scheme. Amway is actually the blueprint that other MLMs base their structure on.
@@hunterwitty1697 Do the Amway sellers recruit other sellers?
Im from Slovenia once it was Jim Dornan in Croatia 7 thousand people came.
This thing its all over the world
Honestly I am glad that you chose to follow what you wanted to go for and that Amway was able to teach you something to use in your personal life and I believe theres no bad or good its just choices and a journey for you to keep what you learned and use it for other things 💙
i've recently been approached and am just now figuring out it's not for me. the interview 6-step process is so time consuming/intensive that i didn't know what the company was even called until step 3 basically. Amway doesn't have a good reputation so that's probably why they hold off telling you but i'd rather they rip the band aid off
You hit the nail on the head. When I was being coached in Amway on how to approach other people, we were told to not mention Amway by name until it was absolutely necessary BECAUSE the name has negative connotations. They also usually make it a longer process to join to give it an exclusive feeling.
Thanks for you honest opinion. I am amid the recruiting process and I am backing out. I am honestly aware about how you mentioned they treat people differently ooutsidethe MLM. I have noticed how my “mentor” uses certain language to make me feel a certain way. He specifically made me reflect on how leaving might be a bad decision and will have repercussions. In my opinion it can’t be that easy to make passive income. Good luck to anyone who is trying out this but it is honestly not for me.
Asking you to consider the repercussions of leaving is valid, especially if you aren't on another path to getting what you want out of life, HOWEVER, if they're telling you that making a passive income through a contract with Amway will be easy, they're confused or they're lying. No one who is successful using this business model will say it was easy. If you have other means of being successful and you already have an ideal path for yourself that Amway would disrupt more than enrich, it definitely isn't for you, and that's OK.
Lmao they're in the comment section 🤣
My roommate is in amway and says “my business” like no girl you’re in a MLM
Whenever they say they own a small business or something like that I love to ask questions that make them squirm.
"Oh, you own this business?? Where do you supply your packaging ive been looking for boxes like that!"
"How did you pick that colour scheme? Id love some tips!"
"Who did your product photography for the website? Id love to hire them!"
"There's a typo on the website, when can you fix it?"
"Where do you source [ingredient] its so hard to get here!"
Just had the missus bring her friend over & spoke to us about this.... She explained to us that its a great way to make money. When i asked how to you make money.... She told me i needed to watch a power point presentation......
My spider senses started to tingle... As soon as she left i youtube it and now im here.
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Yeah, it's always a pretty big red flag when they can't actually explain the business model themselves!
Lol my friend doesn't want to tell me the name of the company all question will be answered later lol
A former colleague of mine approached me some time ago to have a coffee and to speak about some business opportunity. As I remembered him as a nice guy I agreed and was really happy to see him, although I found some sentences to be weird before our meeting. He worked in IT and I though it was about some startup, but it turned out quite quickly that he was only interested in getting me into amway. I was quite upset, especially when I found out that a big part of his sentences was more or less scripted, starting with having a coffee and that freedom blabla. I felt sorry for him, wishing him all the best and that he'd find what he's looking for in life.
Recently I've joined this kind of business.And i feel regret after joining the team😭😭.What should i do guys?
I dipped after the first seminar. The couple that recruited me were nice people but the guy kinda downplayed me through the phone the day after when i told him that im not interested anymore saying “what do you mean??”, “its like im talking to a whole new person”, “I thought we were building trust??.” 😂😂😂Just run away from the opportunity while you still can.
I left after like 2-3 months, everyone felt like they were hypnotized. I just didn't feel it anymore and just quit. Apparently i had some high uplines who kept telling me not to. I just shut the door, standing up for myself. I know it can be tough but you do what makes you feel right
After 2 initial phone conversations and 3 zoom meetings with the couple that attempted to hypnotize me, I declined the first seminar zoom meeting scheduled for today evening 😂😂😂
@@buffsamuraifred6037 checkmate 🤣. Glad you freed yourself from such illusions. I was seriously thinking about getting into it and was almost to the point where I had to shell out 300$ to start trying amway products and begin selling them. They turn into complete douchebags when you decide its not what you wanted to pursue 😂
@@MostHated_10 LMAO
Suppose you owned a shoe store and you sent your salesman to a foreign country to open a new market. The salesman comes back and says its no good boss; they don't wear shoes over there. What would your response be?
Smh. I already had the coffee(hot chocolate for me) meeting but I already knew what was coming. I also had a free lunch meeting with a couple that works for World Ventures. They can miss me with the “pyramid schemes” but I’ll take the free meals!
Is their group called World Ventures? I haven’t heard of that one yet!
ha ha ha
A friend of mine has been to several meetings with them. He hasn't paid for anything yet but he's been digesting self help books like crazy. He's meeting at night with all kinds of people. Says he likes it so far but only because he hasn't paid a dime. But hes gonna pay 200 eventually for a "business license." I told him to be careful. This almost seems cultish.
I tried to warn my friend about this company when he told me about it and he doesnt wanna hear me at all ....
I think it’s funny you ghosted them. They deserve all the bad karma they receive for the master manipulator tactics they use.
In my opinion, it’s alright to ghost people that we don’t know because we’re not entitled to talk to them. Ghosting complete strangers isn’t rude...it’s setting a boundary!
Pyramid schemes are the rat race!!!! Reverse psychology. Your current situation is always a blessing! Today is the gift not the future. It’s not promised. But today? We are here. Enjoy it❤️
Everyone wants the good life, but not everyone gets it. Entrepreneurship is not for everyone.
I don’t like feeling pressured to do something, and I felt very pressured to DO something. And that didn’t sit well with me. Plus I have an eye for people who are not very genuine. So I cut ties very quickly. The only thing I regret is wasting my time. But I did read a pretty good book they recommended similar to you.
I personally don’t see it as a pyramid scheme & trust me I do my research on every “too good to be true” opportunity. It literally all depends on YOU! & also the people in your up line & down line. If they are very supportive you will definitely benefit. If your in it for the money then you’ll see it as a pyramid scheme but if your in it to TRULY help yourself & your family / friends then you’ll grow in ways you never imagined.
Doesn’t apple and I believe Jeff bozo own same of the company also so I doubt it’s a pyramid scheme
One of my friend just called me and building relationship regarding this amway and before i take any action i go through your video and it clears each and everything what i actually thought. just like you said you wanna be an actor same as my aim is to be the in the CIVIL SERVICES and worl for my nation. thaks a lot for this video. LOVE FROM INDIA 🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
She never understood the Plan actually & it will be your biggest mistake to follow her video.
@@helpinghand9999 lol the plan The plan The Plan THE PLAN!!!
You can still do both, the civil services and Amway... Your business in Amway could even fund your studies for civil services... It's a business that will help you build a passive income stream.
I’ve been approached with this and when you said you can pick people out who do this easily it hit me hard. They always make it out to be super exclusive, say words like ‘good fit’ and ‘buisness opportunity’ and I can see it from a mile away now
Me too!! I am well prepared 😄
Not all people have that approach. Its called bad business. The model only works if people help people. People dont have good intent at times and people wre people. Not everyone is doing that. Thats like saying because most marriages in america end in divorce… sooo should i steer away from woman who can potentially grow into being my wife? People cheat everywhere but doesnt mean you follow those people. Its just common sense. Theres bad doctors, priest, trainers , cops etc. mo different. Just use common sense cuz your talking from your experience and perspective and that isn’t everyones. Allow people to figure it out and investigate an opportunity that is changing millions of lives, just not yours apparently
Sorry you went through that. I’m watching this now because a couple from my church approached me to talk about a business network. Me being a business loan consultant I figured a zoom call about it wouldn’t hurt. I just got off the call and want my 30 minutes back . At this point they didn’t mention the name Amway but I already know. I had a Slight feeling when I met them but, since they are members from my church, I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I’m 40 years old and been around the block. I’ve had friends suckered in 20 years ago. I also went to a Primerica meeting (another big pyramid) which I dodged joining as a teenager. When I asked what products they sell and who they are affiliated with, they danced around the question and expect me to drive a hour and a half to NYC for their cult gathering. I’m upset because I thought they genuinely wanted to be friends and I actually have a legit referral program for people sending me business loan clients. Glad you got out and don’t feel bad for ghosting them.
Idk about y’all but because of Amway, my sister is making money and able to take me on a cool ass trip to Las Vegas next month 😫 Y’all do you tho 💅🏽
Anyways... we’re on the trip right now and it’s like a paradise here! My sister is so glad she’s part of Amway :)
@@teppyyyy6414 Sure Jan.
Question. I was at the gym and this girl approached me and said “what do you do for a living? Do you love it is it your dream?” Then I proceed to tell her what I’m doing and she said she works as a mentorship and she learned from another mentor about mentorship and it changed her life. She said she quit her 9-5. I asked what is it? She said it’s a mentorship program. I said is it e-commerce ? She said sort of. I asked if there’s a website she said no. Scam?
So sorry to hear that I’ve had so much success from it from single to engaged and married. We paid off both cars and had debt free wedding. There are so many ways to make money in the world I hope you find what works for you
Sure Jan.
Ah, that was a fun three years for me as a PSDD. The real money was in those books and functions, not the business itself.
My main take-away was Positive Mental Attitude is complete crap because you can't think your way out of situations you behaved yourself into. Thanks for sharing.
Well said Danielle. Take the skills you have learn, and apply it to your life. Specially on your acting career. Great Video!
I'm in with amway right now, and I really wish I could of came across this video, I'm thinking now just get out. The products are to pricey and the points the products got it's not alot at all, for me to make 100 points I have to spend 330 and some change dollars, I have spent more than what I earned. And the "mentor" that I have takes it personally when put stuff like that out there
It's pretty easy to feel like you have to stick with something especially if you've spent money and time and have built relationships around it. But it really helped me to remember that it's ok to quit something if its not serving/helping you no matter how much you've invested into it.
Definitely not for everyone. You need good structure to make it work. After almost 3 years I make about 80k/year from it. But again, its all structure
Nah, you dont earn money by only earning PV point , you earn more by achieveing higher pin and expand your network , that doesnt make you earn much if you are earning Pv point hoping in return for monthly bonus
Wow it's gone up. When I was around 100pts was about $300 even or just a little over and 150pts (which they started to push) was like $350+
They literally tell you personal use is fine but it wont make you any crazy money (maybe $20-$50 a month). The real flow comes when you get downlines. All products have a price. Buy from Walmart and the price is your health. Buy from Amway and its a little more expensive but better for you.
Every time someone says financial freedom through so and so business opportunities. I’d just tune out like I can’t understand English anymore
Yes everything MLM teaches you are things you should be doing for yourself,work hard n build your own dream not someone else
So basically, you did not waste your money, every business requires some financial sacrifice and or investment. You also used your own products-some products are actually high quality. Some people like being a manager and teaching and marketing and sales, it was not for you and that is great you found your passion.
True like your opinion
Thank you so much for telling your story. My Father has been in Away for 21 years he has never earnt any money but still believes that it is going to make him a multi-millionaire. He spends his days prospecting people at shopping centres. It is a tragic story. I would love to see your reaction of the MLM Movie Welcome to Life Amway had this movie banned for 12 years but today it is unbanned and free for all to see on RUclips.
Thanks for your testimony with Amway! I can't stand how manipulative they are
My parents were in Amway in the 90s. My parents lost their house in 1997, and later My dad passed away and had absolutely no life savings left. To this day My mom REFUSES to admit part of that was attributed to this MLM, or that it is a MLM.in the first place. She legitimately will not accept that, or that this is a scam company. I do wonder how different my family's life would have been if Amway wasn't in the picture.
It’s not a scam they are a legit company with legit products . The problem is the IBOS in it
@@geogeo6163 it’s a legit pyramid scheme
It all depends on who you are working with. My up line is amazing and has helped me quit my job and I’m looking to retire by the time I’m 35 currently 26 years old. Sorry about your experience with Amway. Saying that a company is “bad” just because you had a poor experience is not an accurate judgment on the company as a whole. Amway has helped millions of people become debit free and living the life free from corporate America.
Exactly!!! She’s using Amway to make money right now! This video is just to build your likes and views! What’s better than bad mouthing Amway. We love it cause we make money and we’re not average
It’s not for everyone
Lol amway is a cult
I joined Amway Australia. I went to a conference in Canberra. It's electrifying. I left afterward. The products I ordered, I never used them hehe. Church people got me into it.
Danielle you are a wonderful soul. Speaking truth is not everyone's forte it requires courage and conviction. Thanks for message.
Thank you. Just had a meeting with someone I just met. She was a lovely person but it took so long to even mention the name of the company…Amway. I like many of their products but not sure I can handle the culture.
I was approached by someone too, and scheduled a meeting. I already had a strong feeling that this was about Amway. When I asked them if it as Amway, they would always beat around the bush, there was also a point where they said that it wasn’t. I stayed persistent, and eventually got it out from them, and they admitted that it was Amway 😂
Amway has been around for over 60 years. If it was a scam they would been shut down years ago. This isn’t for everyone. If it’s not for you that’s fine......just don’t assume your bad experience is normal
@Chaz Philips if you treat it like a hobby then yes you’ll lose money. If you treat it like a business you’ll make money. Period.
@Chaz Philips I have access to people who make 50k plus plus plus. The notion of nobody make a any money is just an excuse from people who just don’t do the work.
Cocaine has been illegal since at least 50 years, but it's still around. Logic fail.
@@rtoma1974 get your facts please. They own the Orlando magic nba team who plays at the Amway center. You must think Nike, I under armor, Home Depot, Best Buy are scans too then because those companies are partnered with Amway. “Mic drop”
@@22shroomster it’s a pyramid scheme
Hey Danielle, I’ve been an Amway IBO for almost a 6 months now and you know it’s been tough to get things rolling even with mentor guidance. Now I personally don’t believe it’s a pyramid scheme, however it is difficult to make a living doing this. I am a self motivated and positive person anyways, but since you left what do you do with the spare time now? You working a 9 to 5 still? I only got involved to make passive income… anything helps, thank you!
7 steps to gaining cult members can translate to recruiting MLM members. replace God and faith with financial freedom. follow these steps >
step 1: find an opportunist (someone at a crossroads in life) explain you found the key to financial freedom
step 2: soft sell. ask about financial and life choices, bring up your "mentor" in convo. Help them budget their income this will help you determine how much you can really exploit them.
step 3: new reality, invite them to have coffee and say that your time and your mentors time is invaluable (its and honor just to have coffee with me) supply and demand, manipulate the demand for your mentors time
step 4: the dear leader. hype up your "mentor" explain their lavish lifestyle and how they innocently want to help people toward financial freedom
step 5: external enemies. create an Us V.S Them mentality. we're hustlers the rest of society is lazy. this will help with the isolation process.
step 6: peer pressure. invite them to the meeting with mostly MLM members (what an honor 🙄) they'll help reinforce your ideology. Love-bombing is very important here. Every member has to exaggerate how the recruit is so lucky to be attending and reinforce the false demand for a seat at this meeting.
step 7: introduce the narcissist. invite them to a meeting with your mentor or their mentor (your upline). The job of the charismatic narcissistic leader is to exploit the members for money.
social scientists studied how Jim Jones and other cult leaders gained power. After evaluation they determined these are the 7 steps. In modern society religious cults are less prolific but you can translate their methods by replacing God with money.
Haha i joined one mlm paid a lil for products ,i actually wanted to learn the art of selling ;) served me well lol
I met my late husband, he was the best an in his friend group. We ended up no longer doing anyway but applied those nuggets to our lives. I became a Saha mom and my husband a 6 figure IT professional. Relearned friends with our holiness who eventually quit by doing the same and building their own businesses with the knowledge they received through anyway. All of them became successful slightly in always but mostly outside. I’m thankful for amway turned quixtar