The Israelites had it right, once that sexual desire in men came they got married, for it's TOUGH, we get that "build up" and it has to come out it seems, it also seems the most natural thing. Since getting married is a commitment to God first, would be great if we just got our kids married off young, maybe 18, look how all these modern recommendations have worked out, people sleep together before marraige, in the 50's and before divorce was less than 1%, today it's 70%, broken families, children with parents all over the place, step dads and moms, our following liberal humanism has ruined society, if we simply kept biblical values we'd value marraige more and keep it. I'm single, dating, every day girls text me pictures of their tits, nasty talk, "Want to play around", I reject them they go do it with someone else.
I have a couple of questions, what happens when someone's innocence was taken from them, how can they fulfill the "biblical mandate " of purity which you speak so boldly is in the Bible? Will they ever experience the blessedness you speak of? Why is it that you speak of it so easily, when life shows it isn't?
Curt Christensen of course, and unfortunately that happens in the church. So, once something this.... beautiful is damaged, how can this "perfect" gift ever be healed when sex is placed on such a high place? It is a complex issue and should not be discussed in such high regards and those damaged treated like they have been blamed. This damages the already damaged people.
Because it's a matter of heart, if someone is raped they are NOT willfully having sex, their hearts hate it, don't rejoice in it. Biblically almost everything is of the heart, this is no different. So someone raped can still enjoy that blessedness.
I love that Piper will talk about anything!
Interesting discussion.. I learn a lot of it, but the audio is a bit poor. If you can bare with it, you can get a lot out of it.
The Israelites had it right, once that sexual desire in men came they got married, for it's TOUGH, we get that "build up" and it has to come out it seems, it also seems the most natural thing. Since getting married is a commitment to God first, would be great if we just got our kids married off young, maybe 18, look how all these modern recommendations have worked out, people sleep together before marraige, in the 50's and before divorce was less than 1%, today it's 70%, broken families, children with parents all over the place, step dads and moms, our following liberal humanism has ruined society, if we simply kept biblical values we'd value marraige more and keep it. I'm single, dating, every day girls text me pictures of their tits, nasty talk, "Want to play around", I reject them they go do it with someone else.
I have a couple of questions, what happens when someone's innocence was taken from them, how can they fulfill the "biblical mandate " of purity which you speak so boldly is in the Bible? Will they ever experience the blessedness you speak of? Why is it that you speak of it so easily, when life shows it isn't?
Curt Christensen of course, and unfortunately that happens in the church. So, once something this.... beautiful is damaged, how can this "perfect" gift ever be healed when sex is placed on such a high place? It is a complex issue and should not be discussed in such high regards and those damaged treated like they have been blamed. This damages the already damaged people.
Curt Christensen that doesn't matter. I am only asking questions.
Because it's a matter of heart, if someone is raped they are NOT willfully having sex, their hearts hate it, don't rejoice in it. Biblically almost everything is of the heart, this is no different. So someone raped can still enjoy that blessedness.