Here is a link to the tire grooving tool used in the video amzn.to/3JFqcdJ Thanks for watching and check out our other John Deere 2038R compact tractor videos at ruclips.net/video/G9ccCrIRsgY/видео.html And subscribe to our channel at ruclips.net/user/Rockhillfarmandhomes Buy me a coffee - www.buymeacoffee.com/rockhillfarm Thanks for watching
My philosophy is... if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If the R4s are getting the job done for you in all your applications, no need to switch treads. One of the great things about the internet is the volume of information available. One of the down sides of the internet is... the volume of information available. It is really easy to talk yourself right out of what is working. We all read/see so much it can muddy the waters. I think I mentioned it before, but I watch and try to learn from everything I see even if I can't apply it. It is always nice to have that knowledge base because you never know when you might find it useful! Nicely done again. Be sure to let us know if you notice a difference or not. Thanks!
I grooved my tires also, living in Wisconsin we do tend to get more snow and it has helped out a ton compared to before grooving. The work you do and the current R4’s seem to suit you just fine.
My experience is only with R4s on 4 different Kubotas over 1300 hours and my opinion is they are great all around tires for what I do. Nice stable platform for the FEL, don't tear up the pastures too bad, and give good traction in my environment (clay and sandy soil). The more I learn about the R14s, the more I like them, but with the extreme cost of new tires, I'll wear my R4s to nubs first!!!
Great video Brock! Now my own experience with the R4 industrial tire is I didn't care for them. The 4066 came with them. I ran them for a year. Just as you, I have her loaded down and tires filled with beet juice. For my terrain , the tractor was limited. I spoke with my dealer and exchanged them for agg tires and it's night and day difference. Total improvement. With everything I see you doing, I would not recommend you run them. They are extremely aggressive and leave tracks everywhere. Here, tracks are not a concern. Now a buddy of mine lives 20 miles from me and he was aware and seen the difference the tires made for me. So when he ordered his 3038m he opted for the agg tires. He ran them for about 8 months and bought the R4. bottom line he has a totally different terrain he's working in. Even though we're using the tractors in the same way, the soil seems to make the difference. It's sand here. He has soil / clay mix. Fast forward 5 years I have had him borrow the 4066 only one time due to being stuck. Watching you with your pond and other tasks your doing, the R4 works great for you. And a lot of it comes down to one thing and that's experience. He was stuck in a spot after 10 days of heavy rain on the edge of his pasture heading back to his food plot. If it were me, I wouldn't of taken a tractor back there lol. Live and learn!
I bought one very similar to yours around 15 years ago and grooved brand new car tires that came on a new vehicle that I hated. It was.... make them better or throw them away. Cutting them greatly improved traction and they wore perfectly, no noise, no vibration. Cutting off road tires won't hurt at all and should help traction. Good video, thanks.
I like mine wirh r4 tires as well. Never had a problem. But have thought about trying this tool you used. Was happy to see this video. Look forward to hearing an update if any difference is noticed.
Good demonstration, Brock. I have thought about doing this too. For me, it would be to see if it improves traction on ice, but I also have tire chains that I put on in severe conditions. Thanks for sharing.
I did this to my tractor tires last spring and I've never regretted it works great!!! showed up to a whole bunch of guys. the dealership really liked it want to know where I bought them from!!!🤣🤣 did it to my R4 tires on my 1023e the only thing I really should have done was a couple going the other direction as well🤔 love your videos 👍
I opted to get the R14 tires on my tractor. These are the only tires I have experience with but I will say I'm impressed with the traction I get on all kinds of surfaces from stone, snow, ice to mud. So I would recommend the R14. I bought them since they are supposed to be a combo of the R1 and R4. Hence the name R14. But again I've never used the R4 so I really can't compare them.
Hey there Brock. I grooved my R4's last spring on my 4720 with the same tool, but we haven't had enough snow here in Michigan this winter for plowing to really know if made much of a difference or not. But what I did notice over the summer is how much more dirt and dried mud gets brought into the concrete floor of the shop in the shape of the grooves. Come spring and summer, you'll think back to my comment and think....that Chas guy was right....lol. Keep the broom or leaf blower close by. Good luck and keep the videos coming. BTW...tire chains weren't an option for me because I plow my son's paved driveway, which is definitely where the R4's struggle for traction.
I have R4s on my L39 TLB Kubota. They are original from 2008. 2300 plus hours. They’ve been ran on asphalt some, but mostly off road. I typically have the backhoe on through the winter. I have never had any serious problems with traction except in deeper snows. I have a set of rear chains that I can mount in about 15 minutes to counter that problem. I am seriously considering R14s next fall after I finish my spring and summer work. Oh yeah……I forgot to mention…….I’ll go with the R14s IF I don’t get caught for robbing a bank to buy them. 😁
Unfortunately a lot of models still can't get them. The Grand L we have coming in can't be equipped with the R14 tires. I think that may also be case with the 3R series.
I have r4 tires on one tractor and regular narrow tractor tires on a other tractor. I don't get any snow where I live but I think r4 tires are much better for traction. I keep liquid in both styles of tires and the r4 holds more liquid which means more weight which means more traction
I haven't had much trouble with R4s on a 3046r. The only time I had a little issue was when there was ice under the snow on a long sloped pad in front of a shed we converted to a 4 car garage. It would want to slide sideways down hill on that. Never had an issue going strait forward or back. I've thought that doing the grooving going inline with the tire would help with the side to side traction. Or maybe a few at an angle to maybe help with both directions.
Great video, but man those wonky lines are driving my psuedo-OCD nuts... I replaced the screw that holds the blade with some all-thread, and used it that to mount two vertical guide posts that run along the edge of the tread, keeping the knife centered. Probably overkill, but it look 30minutes to make and now my eye doesn't twitch every time I look at the tractor.
For me, I put chains on 1.5yrs ago and they will remain for the foreseeable future. I'm on top of a mountain so sliding is a real concern, once your used to having the added traction of chains its hard to give it up. Grass isn't really a thing and I'm on a gravel road so either way they stay. Speaking ofchains, mine for my log skidder were suppose to be delivered today, the freight company called last minute to bump me, and suppose to be 5" of snow tonight so maybe I will get those in 2 weeks...ugh.
Not sure if most people realize, but when I was looking @ Kioti their R4's are 8 ply and the R14's are only 6 ply. R4 have been know to last a very long time, and I'm not sure the jury is out on the longevity of the newer R14.
I have R4 tires on my 2000 New Holland TC29D and have zero issues with traction in Oklahoma Clay or sand. But since they are 22 years old and starting to rot away I am probably going to be getting the R14 tires since I need to spend the money on new tires anyway. There isn't much difference in price between the two so thinking that R14's are my next set.
Great video.....I have a JD4720 with R4 tires and have seen a little slippage when using my 8' disc and in some cases in the snow with my blower. Our 150 acre farm is in WI and we focus on deer food plots, mowing, clearing land etc. I'm too very interested if you think it helps in the snow and later in mud and loose dirt. Thanks for taking the time to do the test.
I like the tires , I have industrial tires on my bobcat tractor, I don't know if r4 but I like them . I have real tractor tires and they tear up the yard eazy
You want the lugs. To be square. When they get rounded off they have no traction. Look at the lug Doctor that they use on dirt bike tires. There is also a video.
Yeah, I ordered the tool and then look to see what other videos are on it and GWT just covered this really well Also those two guys cover basically everything
Have you ever compared the grooving with tire chains? I came from an X738 and I had used chains on all of the X series that I have owned. The new 2025R seems to do well in the snow without chains. I have been thinking about chains however. The other question I have is does grooving void the tire warranty? Keep up the great work fellow Ram 2500 Diesel owner.
I might try chains in the future. I’m sure they work great but I’m not having that much problem with traction as it is I don’t know on the tire warranty. I’ve got 600 hours on these tires already so probably won’t be doing a warranty claim Thanks for watching
Interesting content today……. I subscribe to the “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it” club! Why chase the next big thing or the greatest and newest thing. Stay with what works and invest the money that you would have spent on the “Next big thing” and you will have a fortune over your lifetime when you are ready to retire from the earnings on all the money you would have spent chasing a sun that you will never catch. A good example Is a gravel drive vs. and asphalt drive. Asphalt is nice to have but not necessary as gravel works just fine and always will….
If you used normal v tread you would have a different opinion . The biggest difference is in the garden , plowing with r4 sucks badly . If you don't do allot of dirt work stick to the R 4 .Grooving was a great idea
I have R4's all the way around and have never had any traction problems, even in a foot of snow. I think it's one of those internet stories that keeps on being repeated without any real evidence. I have thought about grooving my tires but don't really think I need to.
A more aggressive tire will be more likely to tear up turf, and if you're working for customers you really don't want that headache. A turf tire might not work as well and be a disappointment. With that said, my vote is to stick with the R4s unless you have a very specific reason not to.
Here is a link to the tire grooving tool used in the video
amzn.to/3JFqcdJ
Thanks for watching and check out our other John Deere 2038R compact tractor videos at ruclips.net/video/G9ccCrIRsgY/видео.html
And subscribe to our channel at ruclips.net/user/Rockhillfarmandhomes
Buy me a coffee - www.buymeacoffee.com/rockhillfarm
Thanks for watching
My philosophy is... if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If the R4s are getting the job done for you in all your applications, no need to switch treads. One of the great things about the internet is the volume of information available. One of the down sides of the internet is... the volume of information available. It is really easy to talk yourself right out of what is working. We all read/see so much it can muddy the waters. I think I mentioned it before, but I watch and try to learn from everything I see even if I can't apply it. It is always nice to have that knowledge base because you never know when you might find it useful! Nicely done again. Be sure to let us know if you notice a difference or not. Thanks!
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts on it
That's Grooovy!!!Brock 😂 I had to say it🤣Thanks for the video!!!😁👍🚜💨💡
😂
I grooved my tires also, living in Wisconsin we do tend to get more snow and it has helped out a ton compared to before grooving.
The work you do and the current R4’s seem to suit you just fine.
Thanks for sharing
My experience is only with R4s on 4 different Kubotas over 1300 hours and my opinion is they are great all around tires for what I do. Nice stable platform for the FEL, don't tear up the pastures too bad, and give good traction in my environment (clay and sandy soil). The more I learn about the R14s, the more I like them, but with the extreme cost of new tires, I'll wear my R4s to nubs first!!!
Sounds about right
Thanks for watching
Great video Brock! Now my own experience with the R4 industrial tire is I didn't care for them. The 4066 came with them. I ran them for a year. Just as you, I have her loaded down and tires filled with beet juice. For my terrain , the tractor was limited. I spoke with my dealer and exchanged them for agg tires and it's night and day difference. Total improvement. With everything I see you doing, I would not recommend you run them. They are extremely aggressive and leave tracks everywhere. Here, tracks are not a concern. Now a buddy of mine lives 20 miles from me and he was aware and seen the difference the tires made for me. So when he ordered his 3038m he opted for the agg tires. He ran them for about 8 months and bought the R4. bottom line he has a totally different terrain he's working in. Even though we're using the tractors in the same way, the soil seems to make the difference. It's sand here. He has soil / clay mix. Fast forward 5 years I have had him borrow the 4066 only one time due to being stuck. Watching you with your pond and other tasks your doing, the R4 works great for you. And a lot of it comes down to one thing and that's experience. He was stuck in a spot after 10 days of heavy rain on the edge of his pasture heading back to his food plot. If it were me, I wouldn't of taken a tractor back there lol. Live and learn!
Thanks for sharing that info. Probably if it’s not broke don’t fix it.
I haven’t been stuck yet
I completely agree with your assessment on the R4 tires. I haven't had any issues. Need to do the same to my tires.
Thanks for watching
I bought one very similar to yours around 15 years ago and grooved brand new car tires that came on a new vehicle that I hated. It was.... make them better or throw them away.
Cutting them greatly improved traction and they wore perfectly, no noise, no vibration.
Cutting off road tires won't hurt at all and should help traction.
Good video, thanks.
Thanks for sharing
I like mine wirh r4 tires as well. Never had a problem. But have thought about trying this tool you used. Was happy to see this video. Look forward to hearing an update if any difference is noticed.
Thanks for watching
Good demonstration, Brock. I have thought about doing this too. For me, it would be to see if it improves traction on ice, but I also have tire chains that I put on in severe conditions. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching
In winter i run a little less air pressure but all said your on the money dude
I did this to my tractor tires last spring and I've never regretted it works great!!! showed up to a whole bunch of guys. the dealership really liked it want to know where I bought them from!!!🤣🤣 did it to my R4 tires on my 1023e the only thing I really should have done was a couple going the other direction as well🤔
love your videos 👍
Save those strips of rubber for tire plugs if you get a hole
Thanks for sharing and good tip
Thanks for the video, it was groovy man!
😂
I thank your right.The smaller tractors have the problem with the R4.
I opted to get the R14 tires on my tractor. These are the only tires I have experience with but I will say I'm impressed with the traction I get on all kinds of surfaces from stone, snow, ice to mud. So I would recommend the R14. I bought them since they are supposed to be a combo of the R1 and R4. Hence the name R14. But again I've never used the R4 so I really can't compare them.
everyone I talk to seems to love the R 14 so when it’s time to replace mine that’s what I will look at
Looks good hopefully it improves your already good traction! Got me thinking about trying to sipe my truck tires.. haha
Same here. Not sure if I will or not
Thanks for watching
Hey there Brock. I grooved my R4's last spring on my 4720 with the same tool, but we haven't had enough snow here in Michigan this winter for plowing to really know if made much of a difference or not. But what I did notice over the summer is how much more dirt and dried mud gets brought into the concrete floor of the shop in the shape of the grooves. Come spring and summer, you'll think back to my comment and think....that Chas guy was right....lol. Keep the broom or leaf blower close by. Good luck and keep the videos coming.
BTW...tire chains weren't an option for me because I plow my son's paved driveway, which is definitely where the R4's struggle for traction.
Thanks for sharing. That makes sense
When on packed snow or ice, R4 tires won't get up my driveway but R1s do. I think I'm going to groove the R4s. It may allow me to skip the chains.
How does grooving the tires work on dry dirt/ rocky terrain ? I’m in south Texas. And is there any particular design for max grip ?
I have R4s on my L39 TLB Kubota. They are original from 2008. 2300 plus hours. They’ve been ran on asphalt some, but mostly off road. I typically have the backhoe on through the winter. I have never had any serious problems with traction except in deeper snows. I have a set of rear chains that I can mount in about 15 minutes to counter that problem. I am seriously considering R14s next fall after I finish my spring and summer work. Oh yeah……I forgot to mention…….I’ll go with the R14s IF I don’t get caught for robbing a bank to buy them. 😁
Thanks for sharing
I will have to look into the R14
Unfortunately a lot of models still can't get them. The Grand L we have coming in can't be equipped with the R14 tires. I think that may also be case with the 3R series.
I have r4 tires on one tractor and regular narrow tractor tires on a other tractor. I don't get any snow where I live but I think r4 tires are much better for traction. I keep liquid in both styles of tires and the r4 holds more liquid which means more weight which means more traction
Thanks for sharing
What were the results after grooving the tires? Can you tell any difference in snow or mud?
Thinking of doing same thing to my rk55. I had no trouble in snow and was surprised because I have slid down a wet hill or two.
Thanks for sharing
I am curious if you noticed any improvement in dirt or mud? Using it for plowing or discing they can pack in a lot of clay fast!
I haven't had much trouble with R4s on a 3046r. The only time I had a little issue was when there was ice under the snow on a long sloped pad in front of a shed we converted to a 4 car garage. It would want to slide sideways down hill on that. Never had an issue going strait forward or back. I've thought that doing the grooving going inline with the tire would help with the side to side traction. Or maybe a few at an angle to maybe help with both directions.
Great video, but man those wonky lines are driving my psuedo-OCD nuts... I replaced the screw that holds the blade with some all-thread, and used it that to mount two vertical guide posts that run along the edge of the tread, keeping the knife centered. Probably overkill, but it look 30minutes to make and now my eye doesn't twitch every time I look at the tractor.
Great Video Brock, just my opinion but for what you do Id stick with your R4, I think they're probably the meatiest tires available besides the ole R1
Thanks for sharing
For me, I put chains on 1.5yrs ago and they will remain for the foreseeable future. I'm on top of a mountain so sliding is a real concern, once your used to having the added traction of chains its hard to give it up. Grass isn't really a thing and I'm on a gravel road so either way they stay. Speaking ofchains, mine for my log skidder were suppose to be delivered today, the freight company called last minute to bump me, and suppose to be 5" of snow tonight so maybe I will get those in 2 weeks...ugh.
Maybe you should look into getting chains
I have thought about it
Thanks for watching
I have r4 tires and haven’t had any traction problems in Wisc snow
Thanks for sharing
Not sure if most people realize, but when I was looking @ Kioti their R4's are 8 ply and the R14's are only 6 ply. R4 have been know to last a very long time, and I'm not sure the jury is out on the longevity of the newer R14.
I have R4 tires on my 2000 New Holland TC29D and have zero issues with traction in Oklahoma Clay or sand. But since they are 22 years old and starting to rot away I am probably going to be getting the R14 tires since I need to spend the money on new tires anyway. There isn't much difference in price between the two so thinking that R14's are my next set.
Good plan
Thanks for sharing
Great video.....I have a JD4720 with R4 tires and have seen a little slippage when using my 8' disc and in some cases in the snow with my blower. Our 150 acre farm is in WI and we focus on deer food plots, mowing, clearing land etc. I'm too very interested if you think it helps in the snow and later in mud and loose dirt. Thanks for taking the time to do the test.
Thanks for watching
How many times have you got stuck? Have you tried tire chains?
I have never been stuck. I have had to push out with the loader a few times
I like the tires , I have industrial tires on my bobcat tractor, I don't know if r4 but I like them . I have real tractor tires and they tear up the yard eazy
I think they are a good all purpose tire
@@RockhillfarmYT me 2 I drive all over in my yard , they r good even in the snow I think
You want the lugs. To be square. When they get rounded off they have no traction.
Look at the lug Doctor that they use on dirt bike tires.
There is also a video.
Seems like if TTWT and GWT does a review every one else does too!
Yeah, I ordered the tool and then look to see what other videos are on it and GWT just covered this really well
Also those two guys cover basically everything
Have you ever compared the grooving with tire chains? I came from an X738 and I had used chains on all of the X series that I have owned. The new 2025R seems to do well in the snow without chains. I have been thinking about chains however. The other question I have is does grooving void the tire warranty? Keep up the great work fellow Ram 2500 Diesel owner.
I might try chains in the future. I’m sure they work great but I’m not having that much problem with traction as it is
I don’t know on the tire warranty. I’ve got 600 hours on these tires already so probably won’t be doing a warranty claim
Thanks for watching
Interesting content today……. I subscribe to the “If it ain’t broke don’t fix it” club! Why chase the next big thing or the greatest and newest thing. Stay with what works and invest the money that you would have spent on the “Next big thing” and you will have a fortune over your lifetime when you are ready to retire from the earnings on all the money you would have spent chasing a sun that you will never catch. A good example Is a gravel drive vs. and asphalt drive. Asphalt is nice to have but not necessary as gravel works just fine and always will….
Very true.
Thanks for sharing that
If you used normal v tread you would have a different opinion . The biggest difference is in the garden , plowing with r4 sucks badly . If you don't do allot of dirt work stick to the R 4 .Grooving was a great idea
R14's have shown in tests to have better overall traction in MOST situations, including mud and snow.
Thanks for sharing. I’m definitely going to look at those when I need new tires
If you're getting good traction the way it is I would leave well enough alone it sounds like you have it set up just wright
I have R4's all the way around and have never had any traction problems, even in a foot of snow. I think it's one of those internet stories that keeps on being repeated without any real evidence. I have thought about grooving my tires but don't really think I need to.
Sounds about right
Thanks for watching
A more aggressive tire will be more likely to tear up turf, and if you're working for customers you really don't want that headache. A turf tire might not work as well and be a disappointment. With that said, my vote is to stick with the R4s unless you have a very specific reason not to.
If it’s not broke don’t fix it right
@@RockhillfarmYT exactly
You do improve tire traction but also taking 50% of life out of it..