This was an interesting build since I haven't done raindrop in a while. Some things I learned myself during this one. Any questions on things I missed? Edit: it seems I accidentally repeated an audio clip… I guess I thought it was important enough for you folks to hear twice! 🤣
Two fluted ball nose endmills instead of twist drills gives me a better result with raindrop damascus. The transition is smoother and i gett more layers in the raindrops.
I use carbide endmills or with 12% cobalt the cheap Chinese one's.They last a lot longer than hss steel endmills. I also cut the ladder patterns with my milling machine and ballnose endmils. Just because I can.
@@TyrellKnifeworks i know the feeling! i edit all my own videos as well so i totally get it. really enjoy your content and hope to be able to pick up this hobby once i finally get a place of my own down the line. keep doing what you do! :)
Thanks for sharing your processes. Glad I no longer have to try to get my billets flat without a surface grinder; as you point out, it's, um, difficult without one!
@@TyrellKnifeworks And thanks again for putting this up. Just got an order for a raindrop santoku, and this was a great refresher before I start banging away. Or pressing on . . . .
I wonder if you could twist it then flatten and then do the holes. Maybe the drops would be visible, as well as the twist. Like the space between the drops in the end would have the twist pattern
Yeah, somehow I missed that and repeated the same voiceover. I figured it was important enough you guys needed to hear it twice! 🤣. Thanks for watching.
I totally agree. There are a few patterns that are easily done without a press but this isn’t one of them. Twist and random are easily possible by hand.
In my experience, once you twist something it really muddies the pattern and you lose anything as subtle as a raindrop. I mean you’ll see something but it’s very slight. Thanhs for watching, Jeremie
Is there a brand of rolling mill that you recommend. Ive been looking around for one for quite sometime but was hesitant until I found a reliable model
There aren't really that many brands out there. Mine is a version of the Hugh MacDonald rolling mill made by a guy in Oklahoma, David Barfield. I love mine. If you want this number, email me. He doesn't do social media or email. Note, this machine was $1800 plus shipping. Thanks for watching.
I think I would like doing these procedures and making some mistakes to learn . i find the process from raw steel , to billet to all the other steps , to finished product fascinating and artful . This something not everyone can just do and is why I want to learn .
@@TyrellKnifeworks wow thanks so much. I appreciate that. I am in Ohio now. I’ll start watching your videos. I do remodels and office maintenance and smaller commercial work and I need to get some of the essential tools like a belt grinder . I did a hearing office and they asked me to get rid of a little red wing polisher becasue it was all rusted so I fixed it up and have been using it to polish things but I don’t even know what tools I ll need besides a lathe and belt sander . I ll figure it out . I ve done just about everything else in the garage Construction wise from spraying to building cabinets and tables . My mother told me I should start making knives since I have so many , haha. I have to do it now and am excited . Just need to take the first step and make some mistakes . I’ve been kicking around for over six months now
I use CleLine bits. A bit more expensive but worth it. I find the Dewalt and cheapo brand ones just don’t last. There’s a link in each video description to the ones I use. Thanks for watching!
The rolling mill is from David Barfield. He doesn’t do email or social media so email me at tyrellknifeworks at gmail and I’ll give you his number. They are about $1800. Thanks.
Random patterns are so hard, trying to get a consistent density as you create it point by point. I've tried handling this problem in computer graphics with Poisson Disc Sampling (random points that don't stray too far or too close to each other) and Blue Noise. They look like speckled patterns you might see in nature. I'd be curious about that type of pattern used for raindrop, albeit repeated and overlapping. Coming from a completely different field, I'd print off a poisson disc distribution example a few times and place it on the billet, drill with one size, replace the printed sheet and repeat with a different size. It sounds like overkill but randomness is so hard for me.
I have a question. what is difference of these 4 type of damascus patterns which is typhoon damascus, bubblewrap damascus fireball damascus and this raindrop damascus? It looks like they all use drills but I wanna know what is the differences. -by HarryJin
Those are all just names of slight variations of this same pattern. Larger holes, small lined up holes, all just different variations. Raindrop or it’s variations aren’t my favorite pattern, hence you don’t see me do it often. I’m more inclined towards the mosaics. Stay tuned! Thanks for watching
I get all my steel from Maritime Knife Supply. They are in Canada but you can shop and pay in US dollars and shipping is as quick as the US-based sites. Plus they’ll cut it to length for free if you’re using it for Damascus. 👍. There’s a link in the video description.
I have a question that’s kind of off point but I’m sure you’ll know the answer. The original Bowie knife. Wasn’t the top front on the knife sharp as well?
How much would you charge for a knife made for Bushcrafting it must have a 90 degree sharp spine a full tang a7" blade and in a ka-bar style that will fit t in a KA-BAR SHEATH please let me know DALE God Bless
First, you can’t do a kabar style in full tang, it has a guard. Kabars are all hidden/through tangs. Plus I’m not really taking custom orders for knives like that. Most of my customs will be higher dollar Damascus pieces. Thanks for watching, Dale.
No, these billets are for sale. The ladder has already been purchased and this one is still available to patreon members. It will be released to the public next week if not purchased. Thanks for watching.
😭 my beltgrinder broke down jesterday. This is realy painfull, because I dont want to do the bevels with the file again, like bevor I got my beltgrinder. I going to by a new one soon. I saw one who is an realy good one. This thing I am going to by. Do you want the Link to the Website?
No, not at all. Those “holes” get compressed and essentially removed because the steel beneath them is drawn up. It’s just like the ladder pattern except they are circles instead of lines. Thanks for watching
You really want lots of layers for raindrop. If you use a ball end bill you’d get more concentric circles but after forging you’d likely not notice it that much. Thanks for watching.
You wouldn’t want to thin it out much more, even if you wanted to use it in a San mai. It’s already just a hair over 1/8” so add a 3/16” core would be perfect for that application. Thanks for watching.
If you had a CNC machine you cdd add n use a ballnose end mill to do any pattern. The bottom of the hole needs to be rounded so a hole saw isn’t going to work well. Thanks for watching
I really want a surface grinder but can’t afford one, can’t find one compatible with my Pheer 454 and don’t have a mill to make my own. Did you make yours? Love your channel!
Yes, you could combine this with other patterns by forge welding them together. We’ll start to talk about that in the next episode! Thanks for watching
I have a few knives available on my website (link in every video description). My builds go up for sale to Patreon members first and typically never make it to the public. Thanks for watching, Amy!
That doesn’t actually produce much of a pattern. It makes the twists wavy in areas but not that noticeable. What is better is crushed-C’s twisted. Stay tuned!
No, it certainly is not a big deal. It's only about 10 thousands deep, I just didn't want to grind that off the WHOLE billet and let the knifemaker just position it on the bevel or something like that where it will be ground off anyway. Thanks for watching.
Must say nothing to do with you’re execution but raindrop I’m not a big fan of.. seems a lot of work for not much reward pattern wise Probably why you don’t see much of it on RUclips compared with others. Right to showcase it though as I’m sure it has its place but maybe more on a split patterned knife ??
I totally agree. It’s not that impressive of a pattern in my opinion, and a pain in the ass to do. 😜. We’ll get into the more interesting patterns starting in the next episode. Thanks for following the series.
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This was an interesting build since I haven't done raindrop in a while. Some things I learned myself during this one. Any questions on things I missed? Edit: it seems I accidentally repeated an audio clip… I guess I thought it was important enough for you folks to hear twice! 🤣
Around 5:38 or so you repeat the exact same sentence twice
I bet ya didn't miss that raindrop cleaver. 😆 good lookin stuff 🤘
Век живи, век учись.Спасобо за познавательное видео, ваше время потрачено не зря.
@@dante7228 yeah, screwed that up. Time to fire the video editor! 😜 (that me btw)
@@mcrich1978 I do remember that one. It was a beast. Turned out well, better than this one I think.
I truly appreciate that you are sharing your knowledge with Damascus I hope to learn more from you soon
Thanks for following the series, Riecke!
Two fluted ball nose endmills instead of twist drills gives me a better result with raindrop damascus. The transition is smoother and i gett more layers in the raindrops.
Yes, that’s probably much better. It also looks better on ladder that way. It takes much longer to do and it’s hard on your end mills though.
I use carbide endmills or with 12% cobalt the cheap Chinese one's.They last a lot longer than hss steel endmills. I also cut the ladder patterns with my milling machine and ballnose endmils. Just because I can.
Questa serie è magnifica,spero che ne usciranno tanti😁
Andrà avanti per un bel po'. TANTI modelli di damasco da discutere! Grazie per aver seguito.
great video! also can’t tell if my video glitched, or are 5:37 and 6:00 the same clip and/or audio?
No, I accidentally added that clip twice. Time to fire the video editor! 😜. ( that’s me). Thanks for watching
@@TyrellKnifeworks i know the feeling! i edit all my own videos as well so i totally get it. really enjoy your content and hope to be able to pick up this hobby once i finally get a place of my own down the line. keep doing what you do! :)
Love your content, so much education in your videos...thank you!
Thanks so much for following along, Brad!
Good job. Always waiting on these Video drops.
Thanks for watching and following along!
Thanks for sharing your processes. Glad I no longer have to try to get my billets flat without a surface grinder; as you point out, it's, um, difficult without one!
I can’t imagine being without the surface grinder these days! Thanhs for watching, Bryson!
@@TyrellKnifeworks And thanks again for putting this up. Just got an order for a raindrop santoku, and this was a great refresher before I start banging away. Or pressing on . . . .
I wonder if you could twist it then flatten and then do the holes. Maybe the drops would be visible, as well as the twist. Like the space between the drops in the end would have the twist pattern
Once you twist something it really takes over the pattern. There are better ways to get more interesting patterns. Stay tuned.
Very informative! You have earned a subscription!
Welcome to the channel, Robert! Thanks for following this series!
This is so cool. I would love to mess around with this stuff.
Love all your vids, learnt so much from you & always impressed with your finished items. cheers from an Australian fan
Thanks so much for watching and following along!
Great video! One thing though, the Audio repeats at 6:00
Was hoping I wasn't the only one 🤣
Yeah, somehow I missed that and repeated the same voiceover. I figured it was important enough you guys needed to hear it twice! 🤣. Thanks for watching.
@@TyrellKnifeworks 😂 hey thanks for sharing all your knowledge! We appreciate you man!
you are the man !
Thanks for watching, Michel!
always a pleasure to see your work
Thanks for taking a look, Mick!
Great video. Not something I would try without a press though.
I totally agree. There are a few patterns that are easily done without a press but this isn’t one of them. Twist and random are easily possible by hand.
what would happen if you tried to combine the rain drop pattern with say a twist pattern (not sure if that's what it's called when you twist the bar)?
In my experience, once you twist something it really muddies the pattern and you lose anything as subtle as a raindrop. I mean you’ll see something but it’s very slight. Thanhs for watching, Jeremie
@@TyrellKnifeworks I don't know a lot about knife making/forging but I really enjoy your videos.
I love that patern and you executed it perfectly! In Germany this Kind of patern is also known as rose damascus🌹
Honestly it's one of my least favorite patterns. I much prefer ladder for the basic patterns. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the metric conversions! 😂
So many have asked so it’s about time I added them. Thanks for watching, David!
Is there a brand of rolling mill that you recommend. Ive been looking around for one for quite sometime but was hesitant until I found a reliable model
There aren't really that many brands out there. Mine is a version of the Hugh MacDonald rolling mill made by a guy in Oklahoma, David Barfield. I love mine. If you want this number, email me. He doesn't do social media or email. Note, this machine was $1800 plus shipping. Thanks for watching.
I think I would like doing these procedures and making some mistakes to learn . i find the process from raw steel , to billet to all the other steps , to finished product fascinating and artful . This something not everyone can just do and is why I want to learn .
It’s what got me interesting in bladesmithing. If you’re near the west coast of the US, come for an in-person class. 😉
@@TyrellKnifeworks wow thanks so much. I appreciate that. I am in Ohio now. I’ll start watching your videos. I do remodels and office maintenance and smaller commercial work and I need to get some of the essential tools like a belt grinder . I did a hearing office and they asked me to get rid of a little red wing polisher becasue it was all rusted so I fixed it up and have been using it to polish things but I don’t even know what tools I ll need besides a lathe and belt sander . I ll figure it out . I ve done just about everything else in the garage Construction wise from spraying to building cabinets and tables . My mother told me I should start making knives since I have so many , haha. I have to do it now and am excited . Just need to take the first step and make some mistakes . I’ve been kicking around for over six months now
@@Hungrybird474 watch my Beginner Series playlist. That will get you started. 👍
@@TyrellKnifeworks I will . thank you . I will absolutely get in touch with you if I’m ever out west.
What brand of drill bits do u use
I use CleLine bits. A bit more expensive but worth it. I find the Dewalt and cheapo brand ones just don’t last. There’s a link in each video description to the ones I use. Thanks for watching!
@@TyrellKnifeworks oh ok thanks I’ll look them up
Please tell me you didn't do that etch with your fingers???
Ha, yeah I did. It’s 5:1 ferric so it’s pretty weak. Thanks for watching.
Where do you get rolling mills?
The rolling mill is from David Barfield. He doesn’t do email or social media so email me at tyrellknifeworks at gmail and I’ll give you his number. They are about $1800. Thanks.
Random patterns are so hard, trying to get a consistent density as you create it point by point. I've tried handling this problem in computer graphics with Poisson Disc Sampling (random points that don't stray too far or too close to each other) and Blue Noise. They look like speckled patterns you might see in nature. I'd be curious about that type of pattern used for raindrop, albeit repeated and overlapping. Coming from a completely different field, I'd print off a poisson disc distribution example a few times and place it on the billet, drill with one size, replace the printed sheet and repeat with a different size. It sounds like overkill but randomness is so hard for me.
Are you saying you’re trying to replicate this in computer design? I’m sure that’d be difficult. Thanks for watching
I have a question. what is difference of these 4 type of damascus patterns which is typhoon damascus, bubblewrap damascus fireball damascus and this raindrop damascus? It looks like they all use drills but I wanna know what is the differences. -by HarryJin
Those are all just names of slight variations of this same pattern. Larger holes, small lined up holes, all just different variations. Raindrop or it’s variations aren’t my favorite pattern, hence you don’t see me do it often. I’m more inclined towards the mosaics. Stay tuned! Thanks for watching
Could you make this with copper.
If you would press your Logo deep and draw it out or grind it you would still see it as a patern?
Yes, you would probably see a pattern. It would have to be a pretty big logo though. Thanks for watching
Where do you buy your metal?
I get all my steel from Maritime Knife Supply. They are in Canada but you can shop and pay in US dollars and shipping is as quick as the US-based sites. Plus they’ll cut it to length for free if you’re using it for Damascus. 👍. There’s a link in the video description.
The stretching effect from the rolling mill sounds like it might be a feature for some patterns
Yes it will! I’ll talk about that more when we get to mosaics. 👍. Thanks for watching, Daniel!
I have a question that’s kind of off point but I’m sure you’ll know the answer. The original Bowie knife. Wasn’t the top front on the knife sharp as well?
The classic Jim Bowie knife had a clip point that had a top edge but it wasn’t sharpened. Thanks for watching, Gino
@@TyrellKnifeworks thanks for answering me
How much would you charge for a knife made for Bushcrafting it must have a 90 degree sharp spine a full tang a7" blade and in a ka-bar style that will fit t in a KA-BAR SHEATH please let me know DALE God Bless
First, you can’t do a kabar style in full tang, it has a guard. Kabars are all hidden/through tangs. Plus I’m not really taking custom orders for knives like that. Most of my customs will be higher dollar Damascus pieces. Thanks for watching, Dale.
Занятно. :) Занятно то, что я сейчас снимаю как раз про это. Ну и ладно, для России будет по -другому и на русском. Да и не только для России. :)
Я не уверен, что означают эти комментарии, но спасибо за просмотр.
@@TyrellKnifeworks Это значит - С уважением из России. :)
Will you make a knife with this and the ladder Damascus?
No, these billets are for sale. The ladder has already been purchased and this one is still available to patreon members. It will be released to the public next week if not purchased. Thanks for watching.
@@TyrellKnifeworks Alright 👍 looking forward to the next video!
😭 my beltgrinder broke down jesterday. This is realy painfull, because I dont want to do the bevels with the file again, like bevor I got my beltgrinder. I going to by a new one soon.
I saw one who is an realy good one. This thing I am going to by. Do you want the Link to the Website?
I’m good with my Brodbeck grinder. Thanks!
It's an interesting pattern, but it left me wondering, does drilling the holes to make the pattern affect the strength of the finished blade?
No, not at all. Those “holes” get compressed and essentially removed because the steel beneath them is drawn up. It’s just like the ladder pattern except they are circles instead of lines. Thanks for watching
I wonder if you get a better result of you use a billet with varying layer thickness, and ball end mills to put in the divots in stead of a drill. 🤔
You really want lots of layers for raindrop. If you use a ball end bill you’d get more concentric circles but after forging you’d likely not notice it that much. Thanks for watching.
Did you build your rolling mill or purchase it?
My mill was purchased from David Barfield in Oklahoma. Email me if you’d like his number. (He doesn’t do social media or email). Thanks for watching
I always have to anneal my billets before I lay out raindrop! It’s hard on even carbide
I thought I had annealed it enough by letting it sit in the forge overnight but I guess not.
would like to see you draw it thinner and then weld each side to some core steel.
You wouldn’t want to thin it out much more, even if you wanted to use it in a San mai. It’s already just a hair over 1/8” so add a 3/16” core would be perfect for that application. Thanks for watching.
@@TyrellKnifeworks hopefully one day you will show us how that San mai would work.
@@lancemillward1912 probably not with a raindrop, but you’ll certainly see a San mai in this series
I wonder if you could drill holes in holes ?? Maybe at a 16th deep ?? Or possibly a hole saw of some kind to make "rings" ?? Keep up the great work
If you had a CNC machine you cdd add n use a ballnose end mill to do any pattern. The bottom of the hole needs to be rounded so a hole saw isn’t going to work well. Thanks for watching
I really want a surface grinder but can’t afford one, can’t find one compatible with my Pheer 454 and don’t have a mill to make my own.
Did you make yours?
Love your channel!
Yes, I made mine. Look back in my Triple-T videos and you’ll find my overview video with a parts list. Thanks for watching
@@TyrellKnifeworks thanks!! You have the best channel on RUclips!
would be intresting, how it turns out if u reduce the layer count and problably do it with copper damascus ...😵💫
Low layer raindrop isn’t very interesting. Doing it over copper might be interesting though.
Interesting pattern, would love to see this combined with other dmascus pattern, sorta like how viking swords are built up stacking rods.
Yes, you could combine this with other patterns by forge welding them together. We’ll start to talk about that in the next episode! Thanks for watching
@@TyrellKnifeworks until next time then, looking forward to it
What about using some "exotic" metals. You've done gold, copper, what about the other ones ?
Stay tuned! There will be a cool build coming in Q4 or Q1 next year. Thanks for watching, David!
Thumbnail made me think you had made the ultimate sadist’s studded paddle. Kind of disappointed that wasn’t the case but still interesting.
Maybe next episode. 🤣. Thanks for watching.
I've been curious what a jelly roll Feather Pattern would look like
That might be interesting. Thanks for watching, Michael.
Just wanted to say but are any of your builds available for sell cause I really like the work you do but anyway keep up the good work
I have a few knives available on my website (link in every video description). My builds go up for sale to Patreon members first and typically never make it to the public. Thanks for watching, Amy!
Try a ladder pattern on a twisted bar maby?
That doesn’t actually produce much of a pattern. It makes the twists wavy in areas but not that noticeable. What is better is crushed-C’s twisted. Stay tuned!
I know you have been make copper Damascus knifes. What about making a brass Damascus knife and if so why not? Thanks.
Yes it’s certainly possible. Maybe I’ll do one as part of this series. Thanks for watching.
Don't think that little imperfection is a trainsmash.....looks cool enough
No, it certainly is not a big deal. It's only about 10 thousands deep, I just didn't want to grind that off the WHOLE billet and let the knifemaker just position it on the bevel or something like that where it will be ground off anyway. Thanks for watching.
Hallo sir.. I want you to make a 'KERIS' from Indonesia 🇮🇩
Thanks sir🙏
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Oops! I guess I need to fire my video editor. 😜. (That’s me btw). Thanhs for watching
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Good luck! Thanks for watching.
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I think it has kinda too many layers
No, not at all. You need lots of layers for raindrop or they look… boring. The next pattern I do will be a low layer one. Thanks for watching
Must say nothing to do with you’re execution but raindrop I’m not a big fan of.. seems a lot of work for not much reward pattern wise
Probably why you don’t see much of it on RUclips compared with others. Right to showcase it though as I’m sure it has its place but maybe more on a split patterned knife ??
I totally agree. It’s not that impressive of a pattern in my opinion, and a pain in the ass to do. 😜. We’ll get into the more interesting patterns starting in the next episode. Thanks for following the series.
Yeah-not my favorite pattern either. Underwhelmed.
Yup, but had to add it here for completeness. More (interesting) patterns to come.
Cool-love your content-thx!