Chess Lesson # 89: King’s Indian Defense vs Fianchetto Variation
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
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Okay guys! It’s time to learn how to play the King’s Indian Defense against the fianchetto variation. There are many options for us to choose from, but in this Chess lesson, we will go over three of them. I hope you like at least one and continue to enjoy the King’s Indian Defense like I do.
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Although playing chess is just a hobby, you know what?.... I’m learning a lot from you! It’s even faster than I used to. You’re very good. Keep it up, my friend. God bless!
** Hey guys! Let me know if you found the games I left in the description useful. Just trying to look for ways to provide you with more resources. Also, don't forget to like and subscribe if you found some value in this lesson 👍😎
They were helpful. Thanks master - you are an excellent teacher 😃
How could I share my games with you, if you analyse my games it would be useful I use chess .com but sharing links will put my comment in spam section
@@aridojikatochiri9120 try sharing the link to see if it works 👍
Very useful. Many thanks Robert
@@AH-gk6qs you are more than welcome!
d4 Nf6 c4 g6 g3 Bg7 Bg2 0-0 Nf3 **Nc6** :
d5 - 22:33
Nc3 e5
d5 - 32:34 (1 tempo ahead from early d5)
dxe5 - 34:06
Truly excellent KID series. Very clear. Love the recaps and repetition. Would be great to have even more on the KID. The links to games are great. If Robert had time to link to any of his own Lichess studies too that would be great.
Thank you for taking the time to provide such a helpful feedback. It helps me a lot to plan future lessons 💪
#3 candidate moves 1) f5 attacks e4 opens f file. 2) Nf3 attacks e4 but e4 is defended. 3) either N to c5 leads to even exchanges but W loses B pair. 4) c5 either locks center or disrupts W control if W X c5 en passant and Black x back. My selection f5, then continue the video and learn error.
Thanks a lot for sharing your answer, Bruce! 👍😎
Candidate moves. 1) b6 -- relieves Q and N of guard duty, allows activation of B on new diagonal., also Rooks will be connected after B moves which counters W's doubled Rooks. 2) h3 prepares attack on B by g4 and traps either B or N after N x g4. 3) R a4 prepares Qxf4 then trade of Queens - up a pawn. my answer b6. Now...continue video.
Great lesson. Really nice to hear you explain these sidelines and details that we don't usually see in grandmaster game highlights but often struggle with
Also, great ideia putting the games in the description when learning openings in youtube I usually miss more illustrative games
Thank you so much for such a great feedback, Juarés! It helps a lot 👍
#4 candidate moves 1) R e1 to challenge W N e2, if W does it anyway W gets the Rook, but Black gets the queen. 2) N x d5, c4xe5 attacks B but W has to move Q. 3) BxN two attackers on queen both defended from Q attack and Q remains threatened. so W has no time to capture B with c4. My answer B x N., and continue video.
I am so glad that I found your channel. Super helpful and easy to understand. Also very methodical.
Hello Wenyi! Thank you so much for your nice comment. It is truly rewarding 👍
The first training game features a hero of mine, Bent Larsen. I finished that game and am working on the other nine starting now. thanks
Great game! Appreciate the pawn play in the endgame rolling thru to a Queen, especially as Kasparov at the critical moment sacrificed his rook!
I just love the way you teach. Thank you Robert!
Love the video series. I think my preferred structure for these videos would be for you to mention 2 options and briefly their ideas, but then to tell us your favourite and why it’s the best, and then show us 3 games using your favourite setup. (Instead of 1 game from each setup). I find when I’m learning all these lines and Iv watched a video where in some cases you have 3 options it gets difficult to remember what I’m playing and why. Thanks for the great content 👍🏻
I totally understand 👍 I mainly provide you guys with different variations because it is important that you have options since not everyone has the same style as me. Also, many times we can get ideas from one variation and use them in another one.
If at any point, it gets confusing, try to just focus on the variation you like and ignore the rest. However, I again recommend exploring as much as possible. Even games played with other openings. It is all about filling our database with as much information and patterns as possible.
With that said, I will keep your suggestion in mind. I am always taking notes from your feedback to better prepare future lessons 🤓
Number 3 system Rob. All the way. It's like a fine wine. Let it settle and Savour the position. This is a new favorite for me.
That's a nice way to put it, Timothy! So glad you liked it 👍
I believe whites pawn structure is known as the averbakh but I haven't seen it with the fianchetto!
Hello! The Averbakh was covered in lesson # 93 👍
19:00 No.3
that Kasparov game is legendary!
Coach I had a tournament and I wanted to make opening repertoire for black and I found your channel and it is very useful thanks and I have improved my game a lot but I played against my friend who was prepared against KID and played Bayonet variation which you have not covered please make a video on it I will be very thankful 👍🙏🏻😀.
Hello! Glad to see you have found these lessons useful 👍 If you follow the Na6 plan we covered on lesson # 85, you don't need to worry about the Bayonet 😎
I like your channel - very clear, and helpful. But I have a general question on openings. Suppose I take a fancy to the Ruy Lopez - I read books, watch videos, etc. - and decide to give it a shot. Move one: e4. Trouble is, my opponent doesn't oblige with e5! So my study on the Spanish opening goes out of the window. It seems to me that anyone intermediate or lower, who doesn't have either the time or the inclination to learn at least half-a-dozen theoretical openings, might as well forget all that, and go with a "system", instead - the London for white perhaps, and the Pirc for black - which can at least get you to a middle game without disaster! So if, like me, you're stuck at intermediate, isn't that the only sensible choice?
Hello! This is a very good question! So, let's talk about it.
The way you do it is like this:
If you are a player who likes 1.e4, you need to prepare a good opening vs
1...e5. In your case, you chose 2.Nf3. From here you need to know how to play vs
2...,Nf6 (Russian Defense)
2...,d6 (Philidor Defense)
2..., Nc6 ( you chose 3.Bb5)
And others like 2...,f5
Besides all of this, you have to know what to do if Black plays:
1..., c5
1..., d5
1..., c6
1..., d6
and many other options.
As overwhelming as it may look, this is the way to do it if you want to improve your Chess in general. You will be learning so many new ideas and patterns from all of this theory. Besides, you will improve your ability to memorize and visualize. In summary, you are adding more content to your Chess database.
Of course, it is not mandatory. You can avoid it by choosing a system like you mentioned, but in that case, you are limiting yourself. If you choose this option, try to as part of your training, review games from any other openings to acquire all of the different ideas and patterns to continue to enhance your Chess knowledge.
**By the way, building your repertoire against all of those lines does not have to be so rigorous. Start by learning the first few moves and main ideas for every variation and it should be enough to make it to the middlegame safely while learning Chess.
** Also, if you choose to stick to a system like London and Pirc, it has the benefit to leave you with more free time to focus on middle and endgame, which is what matters the most. Just remember to digest any Chess content that comes your way and review games consistently as part of your weekly training.
In my case, I started playing without much knowledge of opening and focused in middle and endgame. Then, I started to build my repertoire little by little like I explained in lesson # 72. Then I got to the point where I just specialized in systems and avoided spending so much time keeping up with the theory. The only system I kept since early in my career was the Pirc and King's Indian Defense, but as white I played 1.e4 and learned how to played against everything black can do.
Hope all of this makes sense and did not confuse you even more 👍
@@NMRobertRamirez I knew there was some reason this channel was the best! Thank you so much for taking the trouble - and I'll certainly do my best to absorb all of this. Brilliant.
at 35:05 - and it unpins the Knight, which wants to move next
I keep revisiting your videos and taking notes. You're great ! Thank you very much!
I'm hanging in there with all these opening videos, sure I don't remember any of this but I'm getting some good basic ideas out of the games and that's worth the price of admission. This has me interested in playing the KID as black and I've even tried the KIA as white, I've never been a fan of fianchetto openings but this series at least has me considering them and even playing some to get a better feel for them.
God bless you for the sacrifice your lessons
I can't tell when I'm playing the pirc or the kings Indian. It's so similar 😂
Really helpful, thank you 🎉
Dream course sir , I really liked it. Do u take any online class ? Pls or any course for advance which we can buy?pls tell sir u r awesome, regard
Utkarsh Mohan
India
Hello Utkarsh Mohan! Thank you for your kind words. I do teach people privately and I'm planning to continue to add lessons to this course until you guys have everything you need to make it to master level. So, we have a long way to go 👍
@@NMRobertRamirez ok sir. Thank u so much
And sir I have started a yt channel so can u guide me in that . Name- The Immortal Kings
@@anutiwari110 congrats! I do not know much, but one thing I think helped me was posting regularly. If possible, provide the link to your channel since it is not popping up yet by the name. I think it takes a while for RUclips to pick it up 👍
ruclips.net/channel/UCqiH65TjFaTL5apcvNRHT5g . Sir this is the link
After watching all your Kings Indian videos, my opening trainer contains 445 positions for my KID repertoire. For my level, that feels overwhelming. So my plan is to work out the most thematic moves for all the variations, play with it and then go back to the repertoire, after I get stuck on certain positions in real games. For example: I recently faced the Austrian attack in the Pirc. I remembered my studies incorrectly and reacted like for the 150 attack. So after the game, I looked it up and made a note in my studies that says: thematic for the 150 is to delay castling and play c6 and for the Austrian strike with c5. Which is only rudimentary, but helps me at my current level until I can remember (and understand) more positions :)
That's excellent, Marcel! Another great way to practice your opening lines while still working on your middle and endgame is to review games where pros use your lines.
By the way, on Sunday we will go over the King's Indian Defense vs the Four Pawns Attack 👍
@@NMRobertRamirez I am looking forward to it. Btw. I just want to say, how much I appreciate your viewer interaction. I feel so much more engaged, knowing that I can ask questions and have a dialog with you and not just watch your videos passively. It makes me want to come back to your channel more often! So thanks for that!
@@MarcelArtsCW thanks a lot for letting me know! Hopefully all of these comments can help others as well at some point.
Thank you for providing all the useful games to review. It's very helpful. I should be researching games for myself but still very time saving. Cheers Buddy.
You are welcome, Timothy! You are not the first person to mention how useful this was, so I might as well make it a regular thing 👍
Love this video. Just one question. What do you do in the line: Nc3 e5 d5 Nb8 c5?
i always encounter this so im watching it again
Robert... you are the best!
Sir Robert great lecture again can you have also old Indian defense with philidor combination because it can do without fiancchetto thanks again sir GOD BLESS TO YOU CHANNEL
downloading video watch on mobile today and also what about double fenkito bishop i also face these things
Excellent! And yes, we will talk about the double fianchetto at some point as well 👍
yes will work on this already facing these things too much
Hi, so glad I founf your channel, easy to understand and very methodical :)
Is there any chance you're going to do a video about the catalan opening?
Hello Nati! Welcome aboard! I am planning to provide you guys with everything you need to make it to master level and learning the Catalan is going to be a part of it 👍 I am trying to cover opening, middle and endgame every 10 lessons or so. Soon, we will talk about the Catalan.
I'm also looking forward to a series on the Catalan. There's not much coverage of it on RUclips.
@@nikhilrao3448 thanks a lot for sharing your interest 💪
i review it another time and time annnndd thank yu so much for the 10 links of others games to learn thankkk you anf for the lesson and yur variation thhhhaannnnkkk you master
I discovered your channel today and I love your structured approach to teach the game. You explained very good. I noticed a lot of opening Videos though. I would really love to see more videos on strategy and positionel understanding.
Hello & welcome aboard! Thank you for your kind words. Regarding the lessons on strategy, we even have a playlist where I put them all together. Some of the most popular ones are lesson # 52, # 74 and # 91. If you have the time, scan through the lessons from # 1 until you see something you feel could be helpful to you. Also, feel free to ask any questions you might have 👍
Hey Rob! Could you make videos about Grünfeld Defence? I think it is a very sharp opening and we can learn a lot from you
Yes, that's another opening we will go over at some point. I use it myself 👍
Does the 3rd system work against e4?
Robert,
OK, I finished all 10 games thank you. I love these old games. They seem logical with clear plans compared to many of the "concrete" games played today. Enjoyable and informative.
FYI, I am a retired American living in Thailand and I play chess everyday as my hobby.
Decades ago I decided to play the King's Indian Defense (KID) under the influence of Bobby Fischer. I had a book with all of Fischer's games so I decided to play thru all of his KID games. No computers no internet. It took a long time. Resetting the board after looking at side lines seemed like a pain but, just like in your videos, I got a lot of repetition which burned the learning into my brain.
When I did not understand a move I had no where to turn but to try and work it out on my own. Sometimes that worked sometimes I never figured it out but my learning was always very active.
After that I played the KID and KIA for years with excellent results that took me to 2030 USCF.
I like the way you are explaining things and value the repetitions. Keep up the excellent work. My new repertoire is completely Ramirez inspired (KIA KID Pirc).
Question, do you know Bryan Tillis of the Palm Beach Chess Club. He is another RUclipsr I enjoy watching but he is no where as popular as you are.
Best Regards,
Jim
Ahh Thailand! My wife and I visited for our honeymoon and we had a great time 😎
Regarding the 10 games, I have to agree with you. They are just excellent. Please, let me know if you ever have any other questions as you continue to build your repertoire and training plan.
I don't think I have met Bryan Tillis, but I have certainly heard his name. Maybe I have seen him. at some tournament.
Anyways, thanks a lot for your feedback, Jim. It's great to know Chess is making your retirement even more enjoyable 💪
@@NMRobertRamirez Thailand is an amazing place for a honeymoon. 💕 In normal years the Bangkok Chess Club hosts an international tournament where some very good players show up e.g. Short, Hansen, Smerdon, Gustafsson, and a long list of Asian GM's. It could be an excuse for another trip to Thailand. 😉
@@jamesreed4483 absolutely! I actually went to the Bangkok Chess Club and played with a lot of people there. Everyone was really nice. I have some pictures and videos. This was April 2017.
beneficial for me. thank u .
Your kings Indian series is fantastic. Have you considered putting it in Chessable, I would gladly pay.
Thank you, Chris! I will definitely look at the Chessable option 👍
Coach I have question on first part , what if white just play Be3 instead of taking the pawn on e5 or moving the pawn on c5 what will black do?
Hello! At what point in the video?
I loved this video I learned a lot and the games that you found was really helpfull
So it seems c6 or Nbd7 work well if they play an early e4 (like in most other KID setups we see), but oftentimes they forego e4 to expedite fianchettoing - in which case, from the games you posted, it seems Nc6 is the typical plan. Is that fair?
I'm having a terrible time with the king's Indian think I only won one game I just get dog piled with attacks before I can get my pieces anywhere
Closing in on the high 1300s again(1368 chess.com rapid), had a 104 move draw today 🤣 ...... Taking notes.... This can be basically catalan vs KID in some lines 🤣
One question, I got this variation today and I got the opportunity to take on b2 with the rook and knight undeveloped should I give my strong Bishop for the rook and pawn? ( he had his dark Bishop so I retreated to a central Square fearing dark square weakness was I wrong??)
This certainly depends on the specific position, but if your intuition told you to keep the bishop, you did right 😎💪
@@NMRobertRamirez thanks sir
20:04
Thanks for this just beat 12 year old magnus with the variation against the fianchetto. THANKS
Excellent! Thank you for sharing your feedback. It means a lot to know you found value in this lesson 👍💪
Can you do a video about using the double bishops to your advantage
Hello Satish! Yes, that is coming in a few lessons 👍
Great video
Very instructive
Thanks a lot for taking the time to provide your feedback! 👍😎
@@NMRobertRamirez
Btw, I am from Russia, Perm)))
Probably very far from you
Maybe u heard of World Youth Champion Ildar Khairullin
And Alexandra Kosteniuk is born here)))
@@user-ce2gl6ky2y ahh you must have the Chess gene then 😎💪
Already booking time for this one. On the other hand - are you going to expand another quite universal london-like opening for white? Reti perhaps?
Yes, we have a lot of openings to cover, but little by little. Stay tuned 👍
Sir, how it's going? Recently my online classes has started. So I'm not that much into chess right now. But I regularly come here to see if there's something new...
Besides Covid-19 situation is getting worse here in Bangladesh. Try to stay safe and healthy sir... 😊
Hello Amit! It is great to see you around. Sorry to hear things are tough in Bangladesh. Hopefully everything starts getting better soon. And do not worry too much about Chess for now. Sometimes taking a break could be beneficial 👍 School first!
Isn't playing e4 and g3 too early for white considered bad because of black playing c5 and b5 very quickly?
I do not think it is necessarily bad, but I can see how it could be better to delay e4 👍
Sir, could you please make videos about Italian openings?
Yes, we definitely have to talk more about that legendary opening 💪
@@NMRobertRamirez Thanks Sir 😊
Fianchetto players taking notes
Its great having several games in the description to review. Is this new? Thanks.
Thanks for sharing your feedback, Mark. It helps a lot. What's new? This lesson or the idea of adding games in the description?
Adding games 😀
@@RaptureReady2025 yes! Just looking for new ideas to help you guys more. Your feedback is always welcome 👍
Which opening I should prepare as a 1010 rated as a backup? Carokann or should go for some gambit?
It's best to take a look at all of them and pick what you like the most. You will learn a lot that way. With that said, Caro-Kann is definitely an interesting choice!
Hi, I've been playing KID and Pirc for 3 weeks now since I saw your video on Pirc. I really like it. Thank you for taking time and putting efforts on it. Can you pls create a video against 'Monkey's Bum gambit', I just learned the name today but I think I got 3-4 games against it which weren't pleasant for me. If you have already something on it, pls point me to it. :)
Hello! Glad to see you have been finding these lessons useful 😎 Regarding the
@@NMRobertRamirez pls don't leave me hanging; finish you sentence, pls? 🙃
@@PawanKumar-cg1ym 😜 I don't know what happened! Regarding that variation you mentioned, I don't think it works against the Pirc. It might be tricky if you use a Modern Defense move order. Anyways, feel free to share the move order you use against it 👍
Thanks 😊 alot
You are more than welcome! 👍😎
Thanks for this video bro
You are more than welcome! Hope you found it useful 👍
Hey nm Robert, could you please help me with a question I have, preferably in a future video as well. You know the thematic a5 move in KID, I really like how you explained it’s potential, however then my opponent knight comes to b5 and puts pressure on c7 forever, and I have no means to push that knight. So that prevents me from using this idea, could you explain how to handle this problem. Thanks so much for the videos as usual.
Hello Sameera! Good question. We often solve this problem by taking the knight with our light-squared bishop. Take a look at 29:30 in this video. The problem with it is that our c7 pawn can then be attack through the c file, so we have to time it and make sure our c5 knight cannot be removed by a pawn. Again, it is a scenario like the one at minute 29:30 of this video. Please, let me know if this makes sense. Anyways, I will talk more about it in a future video since sometimes we can even do Rf7 after f5 and we take care of it..
@@NMRobertRamirez Thanks so much for the reply NM robert. They seem to address my question, but I still have some queries. In a previous video you showed us how to use KID and attack the king side castled king of the opposition by opening up G file, then you told us don't worry about this light squared bishop been not developed we would sacrifice this light squared bishop if conditions are right for a great atttack on king side. Now when we exchange this light squared bishop for the knight we can no longer carry this attack? Isn't that a disadvantage. Eagerly waiting for your reply and possible explanation in coming videos. Thanks..
@@sameerawijesundera8022 yes. As you may know by now, when you choose that kind of play, you are willing to allow your opponent to put pressure on the queenside while you attack on the kingside. Just like they might have an annoying knight on b5 (or anywhere else on the queenside) you have your pieces on the kingside.
I mentioned the Rf7 move as an option because moves like this one can defend c7 from their b5-knight while transferring to g7 to put pressure down the g-file.
Bottom line is we have to make concessions and hurry up to attack on the other side before they do the same on the queenside. As many of my students say...you cannot have your cake and eat it too 😎
Nah seriously, we will talk more about it. For now, the best way to learn how to deal with it is to review lots of games where professional players use the King's Indian Defense 👍
@@NMRobertRamirez Thanks again for the help NM robert. Makes sense that clears up things. So if I sacrifice my light squared bishop for the knight after the a5 move, does that mean I should avoid going for that king side attack by opening up "g" file. One of the problems beginners like me face with KID is knowing when to go for the king side attack by opening up "g" file and when not do that and play a positonal game. Hope your future videos will address this as well. Thanks again.
Perfect💌
Need More Pirc Videos on different theories
Sure! Like which one?
@@NMRobertRamirez how to attack your opponents king side with pirc
Like pawn storm also I need kings indian attack videos
@@aridojikatochiri9120 we went over it in lesson # 69. It depends on your opponent locking the center for us to do the pawn storm 👍
Excited for the new video today
Actually I am a indian I used Madrid time to say it today 😂
Same
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Im drunk, why am i here? Since when do ponys move in L-shapes. Only lshapes should move this way like rhe letter l or i dunno not freaking horses they move straight you know.
lol
Hello Robert, did you do a lichess study about this lesson? If it's the case, would you invite me in the study?
If your invite me, my account is Manoushlight.
Thanks for your content!
Sir Robert great lecture again can you have also old Indian defense with philidor combination because it can do without fiancchetto thanks again sir GOD BLESS TO YOU CHANNEL
Hello Joseph! Thank you! I will defininitely make a note to go over it whenever I find an opportunity. I have many other lines pending, but we will cover them little by little 👍