That was a first for me too! In all of my years of reading and watching videos about the Battle of The Atlantic there has never once been a mention of Consul (or it's German equivalent code name) as a means of navigation support for the U-Boats? It doesn't seem to have been shared with the Luftwaffe for use by the Focke Wolfe Condor aircraft because the U-Boats would complain about the navigation errors in locating Convoys found by the Condors? Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
Great video., My granddad was a tail gunner on a Sunderland until the squadron medical officer realised that he was short sighted, so he was then transferred to North Africa as ground crew. He said that the MO had probably saved his life, as the half dozen or so mates he'd gone through rear gunner training on the Sunderland with all got killed in action.
Excellent video. Waving at Condors ??? ..and they waved back ! :D Cats had a tiny interior, Sunderland much larger. Pity Australia didn't buy old Sunderlands after the war, to use as coastal joy flights etc.
Ansett used them up to 1974 on the Lord Howe Island run (which I was lucky enough to fly on). One was a Sandringham, and the other a converted Sunderland.
My dad was with 612 Sqdn Coastal Command and had to ditch in the Bay of Biscay. He and his crew were picked up by a 10 Sqdn RAAF Sunderland, which chased off a JU88. Bless you lads.
@@PhilipSansoni Indeed. The JU88 fired a few shots at the crew in their 3 man dinghy - the five man dinghy didn't inflate! So my dad and crew mates had to take turns in the water - for 9 hours.
There at the end of war Coastal Command put an System called Intone it was a Radio Transmission to Azores etc one of Transmission station was Raf Chigwell Essex the remains of concrete dispersal areas and cookhouse has become a wood now part of Roding Valley Nature Reserve next to David Lloyd Centre.
Thank you for posting this. Listening to people who were actually there is so much more engaging and informative than listening to someone talking about what others did. 👍😎
My father flew as air crew on Sunderlands out of Stranraer, Scotland ,after being transferred , previously serving on air -sea rescue out of Montbatten Plymouth 🇬🇧
All of the Sunderlands shown with the prefix "RB", are from the Australian RAAF 10 Squadron, of which, my Uncle Richard was a Skipper/Captain. At least one of his boats appear in this clip. He did three tours, in three different boats, with Coastal Command.
@@sidharrison4869 Do you know the call-sign of the rescuer? My Uncle flew RBR, RBB and RBA mainly. He did mention to that he captained many of these types of rescues.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray Not sure but I have a press photo (taken at the time) of my dads crew with the Sunderland crew walking up the slipway at Pembroke Dock.
Imagine a modern version of one of these, worked with modern weapons and equipped with modern avionics. Would not need a runway of course just some suitable water. It could be a flying war ship
Always loved the Sunderland. A beautiful seaplane. A great asset against the enemy then. Although, sometimes I think the enemy has many heads - and some of them were backing both sides. I think they still do, unfortunately. Evil exists but God blesses.
The sergeant shown talking to the skipper at around the 7min mark is my late mother's cousin Henry Morton who was posted missing in action some time after these Periscope films were made. My mother told me many times about him and I still have a photo of him taken outside Buckingham Palace with his wife, mother and father after he had been decorated for his action when their aircraft came under fire during a patrol.
@@ArmouredCarriers . . . . and bombs, attacked and sank ships, killed sailors, reported convoys ~ it was a dangerous enemy and killing it should have been a 'no-brainer' . . . Ju88s had cannon and at least one Sunderland fought off attacks from them . . .
@@ArmouredCarriers What are Ads I would have to turn off my u Block Origin to remind myself what they look like. Fantastic video thanks for putting it up for us.
Another fascinating presenation on the Sunderland flying boat. Never heard of the Consul navigation system before. Thanks Portugal.
That was a first for me too! In all of my years of reading and watching videos about the Battle of The Atlantic there has never once been a mention of Consul (or it's German equivalent code name) as a means of navigation support for the U-Boats? It doesn't seem to have been shared with the Luftwaffe for use by the Focke Wolfe Condor aircraft because the U-Boats would complain about the navigation errors in locating Convoys found by the Condors?
Mark from Melbourne Australia 🇦🇺
It was the Consol system not Consul. Not easy to tell with such a nice north-east accent. The Germans called it Sonne.
Great video., My granddad was a tail gunner on a Sunderland until the squadron medical officer realised that he was short sighted, so he was then transferred to North Africa as ground crew. He said that the MO had probably saved his life, as the half dozen or so mates he'd gone through rear gunner training on the Sunderland with all got killed in action.
Excellent video. Waving at Condors ??? ..and they waved back ! :D Cats had a tiny interior, Sunderland much larger. Pity Australia didn't buy old Sunderlands after the war, to use as coastal joy flights etc.
Ansett used them up to 1974 on the Lord Howe Island run (which I was lucky enough to fly on). One was a Sandringham, and the other a converted Sunderland.
My dad was with 612 Sqdn Coastal Command and had to ditch in the Bay of Biscay. He and his crew were picked up by a 10 Sqdn RAAF Sunderland, which chased off a JU88. Bless you lads.
a Sunderland "chased off" a Ju.88! These war stories gain
@@PhilipSansoni Indeed. The JU88 fired a few shots at the crew in their 3 man dinghy - the five man dinghy didn't inflate! So my dad and crew mates had to take turns in the water - for 9 hours.
Nice work,mate. 😊
There at the end of war Coastal Command put an System called Intone it was a Radio Transmission to Azores etc one of Transmission station was Raf Chigwell Essex the remains of concrete dispersal areas and cookhouse has become a wood now part of Roding Valley Nature Reserve next to David Lloyd Centre.
A great insight, thank you
Thank you for posting this. Listening to people who were actually there is so much more engaging and informative than listening to someone talking about what others did.
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My father flew as air crew on Sunderlands out of Stranraer, Scotland ,after being transferred , previously serving on air -sea rescue out of Montbatten Plymouth 🇬🇧
Fantastic aircraft and the crews that flew them too!
All of the Sunderlands shown with the prefix "RB", are from the Australian RAAF 10 Squadron, of which, my Uncle Richard was a Skipper/Captain.
At least one of his boats appear in this clip.
He did three tours, in three different boats, with Coastal Command.
It was a 10 Squadron Sunderland that rescued my dad and the crew of their 612 squadron Whitley, in October 1940.
@@sidharrison4869 Do you know the call-sign of the rescuer?
My Uncle flew RBR, RBB and RBA mainly.
He did mention to that he captained many of these types of rescues.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray Not sure but I have a press photo (taken at the time) of my dads crew with the Sunderland crew walking up the slipway at Pembroke Dock.
@@MichaelKingsfordGray Flt Lt Burrage was the skipper of 10 Sqdn Sunderland W3986/U
Bless us - bless us all. The long and the short and the tall ?
The pilot looks like Flt Lt Cruickshank, who was awarded a VC for gallantry flying a Catalina. Mind you, they were all young men with moustaches then.
Imagine a modern version of one of these, worked with modern weapons and equipped with modern avionics. Would not need a runway of course just some suitable water. It could be a flying war ship
It's something to live to telll the tale and still manage to laugh a little about it. Stories to inspire your grand-kids, if you havvem.
From an American perspective, seeing a Sunderland meant, you were just about halfway home.
Always loved the Sunderland. A beautiful seaplane. A great asset against the enemy then. Although, sometimes I think the enemy has many heads - and some of them were backing both sides. I think they still do, unfortunately. Evil exists but God blesses.
Good times not to sleep:
(1) Whilst piloting a Sunderland on a combat mission in WW2.
Well, it did carry up to three of them ... with just copilot and pilot seats ...
Fab video fab aircraft
When was this made?
I made this a year ago. The interviews were done between the 80s and 2000s. And the footage is from wartime news, training and propaganda films.
The sergeant shown talking to the skipper at around the 7min mark is my late mother's cousin Henry Morton who was posted missing in action some time after these Periscope films were made. My mother told me many times about him and I still have a photo of him taken outside Buckingham Palace with his wife, mother and father after he had been decorated for his action when their aircraft came under fire during a patrol.
Very enjoyable, thankyou.
Ups to the Azores !
Expect the Condor was responsible for many deaths later
Same with the Sunderland.
On a pragmatic level, the Condor had 20mm cannon ...
@@ArmouredCarriers . . . . and bombs, attacked and sank ships, killed sailors, reported convoys ~ it was a dangerous enemy and killing it should have been a 'no-brainer' . . .
Ju88s had cannon and at least one Sunderland fought off attacks from them . . .
Set playback speed to 1.25 so you don’t die of boredom. You are welcome! 😂
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Apologies. Google now puts the advert insert on by default. I thought I had deactivated it.
@@ArmouredCarriers What are Ads I would have to turn off my u Block Origin to remind myself what they look like.
Fantastic video thanks for putting it up for us.