You're a man of a lot of patience and many skills Mike. I admire the way you came up with a fine solution although the hours of labor you invested. Your example and repair will inspire many model railroad hobbyists. Thanks for sharing, success & greetings, Filip
Thanks Mike. Serendipity or what. I've just bought one of these secondhand with the same issue so will be adopting your methods-'cos I think your finished result is fine! Cheers, Chris.
Hats off to you for this one, I had to keep reminding myself this was oo gauge that you were working on. How you manage those inserts shows remarkable patience. Nice result.
It's great to see old locos brought back to life. I find the process very cathartic. Also, it is an example of recycling, and saves a great deal of money! I have the same problem with one of my B1's. I hadn't realised it's significance. My fix was to just bend the valve gear a little. I'll take another look at it now I've watched your video.
I’m just putting all my dad’s old locos back into service and his standard 4’s are suffering with this thanks for the idea I’ll get them running again… I solved the split axles with my 3d printer and a micrometer but I couldn’t think what to do with these at all … top man
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited I followed your video and it worked out great. Now all I need is new wheel spacers. I bought from Bachmann Spares but the square holes were sloppy, so I'll try Asis3d. The feedback for them seems good. 🤓👍
Nice one Mike, a great fix. You distracted me from turning 2 6 wheel coaches into a permanently coupled 4 wheel push pull pair to run with a Terrier identical to the Isle of Wight push pull set. I do love push pull
A really smart way of fixing these troublesome split chassis locos, if you painted the rest of the wheel rims black no one would be able to tell it's split chassis!
Great repair. I had the same issue with my Standard Class 4. I had to use a donor chassis as mine was really messed up. I have tried filing down the inserts but I will probably end up doing the same as you for a more permanent solution. Thanks for showing. Regards Paul.
Well done That made complete sense and I could see I could manage that myself I’m very enthusiastic about anyone who shows that Bachmann engines of this age and period can be worked on and maintained The vast majority of people are scared off by : split chassis, split axles and problems like you described Making such videos proves they are serviceable and can be repaired I have a few in storage atm but I now realise I will be able to make them run once more 👍🏻 I’ve also followed OO Bill on RUclips who shows the same attitude towards such engines Thanks so much for your interesting video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Totally agree. The split chassis issue is really only a problem if you have a DCC layout. The conversion CAN be done, but it's not easy at all. The other main issue of axle cracking is much easier to resolve.
Back in the day when these Bachmann models were new, Hornby were seen as the undisputed leaders when it came to mechanisms / motors, and Bachmann were the front runners for detail and paint finish. Not sure it's like that these days, especially with the various new entrants to the hobby.
Good spot on the swollen plastic inserts Mike, that was half the battle. Modifying the inserts etc crosses over to skills in plastic kit construction so if you have the skills/tools for that, you are onto the solution. One small suggestion, though its subjective, priming and spraying the wheels may hv given a smoother finish, though it would necessitate additional time in masking etc. I hv this loco still MIB so will go and see if the inserts have expanded after all these years. Cheers
A very good solution to the problem. Makes me wonder why they put the inserts in, in the first place why not just mould the weights to the metal part of the wheel.
Great video thanks for sharing, I've got the same problem with a Bachmann standard 4 with a Mainline body and tender, it really wobbles, I'm going to give it a try as your video & tips will help me, thanks again John
Sorted the wheels by taking the nylon out and glued the centre and balance parts in, I've now got to replace the wheel sets and fix the crank arms, get the quarteing right so hopefully she'll run again fingers crossed 🤞 I'll keep you updated thanks John
Hi as I said I would let you know how I got on sorting out the same problem on my locomotive, I've done the same fix as yourself as I was doing it like you the video all the 6 wheels fell out so I've done them individually and refit ed the rods, mine were pushed in pins to the centre wheels, refitted it all this morning and hey presto it runs again not prefect but accable, just have to paint the spoked wheels, now she's not on shed, thanks for sharing the video, John
Just found this video it was very helpful in understanding why this happened I have same problem with 2 of these locomotives how does the body come off?
Simple and effective, well executed sir. That seems an odd practice for making wheels. I mean if they are cast with full spokes anyway why the recess and nylon cover? Is that perhaps a legacy thing from mainline? That's a crazy statistic about the service life!
Hi, many thanks. Yes I agree, I'll have to check my Mainline one but I don't think I've ever had an issue with her. Weird is right. Yes the service life, what a waste 😞
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimitedI must get my mainline 4MT out, it's the green version. It needs a deep clean due to creeping peco powerlube. I remember seeing a video years ago where you covered this so that's handy!
Would my old Hornby Railways Ivatt 2MT Mogul model be considered vintage status? Models of her were first released in 1989, if my brain serves me correctly, so it looks to me like she might be a vintage model. I never carry out repairs of any kind, I just keep the driving wheels clean. You're a Maintenance Master, make no mistake. Not every modeller has skills of your standard. I love your Standard 4 tender engine model. True, she was scrapped in real life, but some of her real life sisters survive on preserved railways. 75069 and 76079 are two of them. I have a slightly smaller Bachmann model, of one of the preserved Standard 4 tank engines: 80104 who is resident on the Swanage Railway in real life. Is there a Standard 4 tank engine hidden in your collection somewhere? I'm sure you showed her number on a list some time ago. Could you give both your Standard 4 tender and tank engines a run together sometime?
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All credit to you Mike for your skill, patience and perseverance! Great to see a BR Standard (sorry I really love them) back on its feet!
Thanks Philip, me two a very lovely class of locomotives
You're a man of a lot of patience and many skills Mike. I admire the way you came up with a fine solution although the hours of labor you invested. Your example and repair will inspire many model railroad hobbyists. Thanks for sharing, success & greetings, Filip
Thank you very much! Filip so kind of you to say
Thanks Mike. Serendipity or what. I've just bought one of these secondhand with the same issue so will be adopting your methods-'cos I think your finished result is fine! Cheers, Chris.
Wow great timing 😎 very best of luck
A novel but painstaking fix for a seemingly common problem.
Thank you kindly boss ☺️
What a brilliant bit of surgery. She looks & runs very well indeed.
Thanks for the tip & sharing your how to video. 🙂👍
Thanking you kindly Tim ☺️
Very interesting Mike, I'm glad to see that you got the engine running again.
Cheers Jasper & Willow
Glad you enjoyed it, cheers 🥂
Hats off to you for this one, I had to keep reminding myself this was oo gauge that you were working on. How you manage those inserts shows remarkable patience. Nice result.
Thank you very much! Most kind of you to say 😊
It's great to see old locos brought back to life. I find the process very cathartic. Also, it is an example of recycling, and saves a great deal of money!
I have the same problem with one of my B1's. I hadn't realised it's significance. My fix was to just bend the valve gear a little. I'll take another look at it now I've watched your video.
Cheers Stephen, good luck with yours
I’m just putting all my dad’s old locos back into service and his standard 4’s are suffering with this thanks for the idea I’ll get them running again… I solved the split axles with my 3d printer and a micrometer but I couldn’t think what to do with these at all … top man
It's comments like this that make it all worthwhile, thank you very much :)
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited your very welcome Thankyou for showing
Brilliant. I've got the same problem with my GW Bachmann Mogul. This solution I never thought of. Thanks. 😊👍
Oh glad this helps, let me know how you get on
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimited I followed your video and it worked out great. Now all I need is new wheel spacers. I bought from Bachmann Spares but the square holes were sloppy, so I'll try Asis3d. The feedback for them seems good. 🤓👍
Good luck, sounds like you are close to fixing it
The fix worked. Super video with close-ups ! Thank you.
Glad it helped!
A very interesting video and a lovely loco indeed!
Cheers for sharing this Mike
Glad you enjoyed it, many thanks 👍
Cracking job Mike - well done sir!
Thank you! Cheers!
A brilliant job Mike, I wish I had your patience.
Cheers Philip, I never give up on a loco, only ever lost one. A Mainline J72
Looks to be vastly improved
Many thanks, yes I'm very pleased. Would have been hard to lose the old girl
Nice one Mike, a great fix.
You distracted me from turning 2 6 wheel coaches into a permanently coupled 4 wheel push pull pair to run with a Terrier identical to the Isle of Wight push pull set. I do love push pull
Cheers, that set sounds wonderful
That's one very clever and effective fix, I'm not sure if I have the confidence to tackle that! Thanks and well done mate!
Many thanks. I guess if the loco is useless then not much to lose by trying. It took me 4 days in all.
A really smart way of fixing these troublesome split chassis locos, if you painted the rest of the wheel rims black no one would be able to tell it's split chassis!
Thanks very much indeed
Yes i knew you could fix it well done Mike 👍
Haha lol and my name's not even Bob 😆
Great repair. I had the same issue with my Standard Class 4. I had to use a donor chassis as mine was really messed up. I have tried filing down the inserts but I will probably end up doing the same as you for a more permanent solution. Thanks for showing. Regards Paul.
Cheers Paul, very best of luck
Well done
That made complete sense and I could see I could manage that myself
I’m very enthusiastic about anyone who shows that Bachmann engines of this age and period can be worked on and maintained
The vast majority of people are scared off by : split chassis, split axles and problems like you described
Making such videos proves they are serviceable and can be repaired
I have a few in storage atm but I now realise I will be able to make them run once more 👍🏻
I’ve also followed OO Bill on RUclips who shows the same attitude towards such engines
Thanks so much for your interesting video 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Hi that's really kind of you. I never give up on an engine 🚂
Totally agree. The split chassis issue is really only a problem if you have a DCC layout. The conversion CAN be done, but it's not easy at all.
The other main issue of axle cracking is much easier to resolve.
Back in the day when these Bachmann models were new, Hornby were seen as the undisputed leaders when it came to mechanisms / motors, and Bachmann were the front runners for detail and paint finish. Not sure it's like that these days, especially with the various new entrants to the hobby.
How would you resolve it? @@stephendavies6949
Very true@@stephendavies6949
Good spot on the swollen plastic inserts Mike, that was half the battle. Modifying the inserts etc crosses over to skills in plastic kit construction so if you have the skills/tools for that, you are onto the solution. One small suggestion, though its subjective, priming and spraying the wheels may hv given a smoother finish, though it would necessitate additional time in masking etc. I hv this loco still MIB so will go and see if the inserts have expanded after all these years. Cheers
Thanks Paul, yeah I'm gonna have to try spraying some day, I can feel it approaching lol
Proper job !
Cheers buddy
Very interesting
Glad you think so!
A very good solution to the problem. Makes me wonder why they put the inserts in, in the first place why not just mould the weights to the metal part of the wheel.
Thanks, very good point
Great video thanks for sharing, I've got the same problem with a Bachmann standard 4 with a Mainline body and tender, it really wobbles, I'm going to give it a try as your video & tips will help me, thanks again John
Hi John thank you. Good luck and maybe let me know how you get on
Sorted the wheels by taking the nylon out and glued the centre and balance parts in, I've now got to replace the wheel sets and fix the crank arms, get the quarteing right so hopefully she'll run again fingers crossed 🤞 I'll keep you updated thanks John
@@johnbill9201 well done, 👍
Hi as I said I would let you know how I got on sorting out the same problem on my locomotive, I've done the same fix as yourself as I was doing it like you the video all the 6 wheels fell out so I've done them individually and refit ed the rods, mine were pushed in pins to the centre wheels, refitted it all this morning and hey presto it runs again not prefect but accable, just have to paint the spoked wheels, now she's not on shed, thanks for sharing the video, John
@@johnbill9201 that is brilliant news John well done
Tape on motor may cause overheating.
Nope, just as designed, the old tape had fallen off
Just found this video it was very helpful in understanding why this happened I have same problem with 2 of these locomotives how does the body come off?
Glad it helped. Screw under cab I think
Simple and effective, well executed sir. That seems an odd practice for making wheels. I mean if they are cast with full spokes anyway why the recess and nylon cover? Is that perhaps a legacy thing from mainline? That's a crazy statistic about the service life!
Hi, many thanks. Yes I agree, I'll have to check my Mainline one but I don't think I've ever had an issue with her. Weird is right. Yes the service life, what a waste 😞
@@ModelRailwaysUnlimitedI must get my mainline 4MT out, it's the green version. It needs a deep clean due to creeping peco powerlube. I remember seeing a video years ago where you covered this so that's handy!
Oh yes, on split chassis that lube is awful. Will need an IPA was out I'd guess
Why is bolt hole in insert ovaled ?
Oh I see what you mean, that's where it had been catching due to being swollen up
Would my old Hornby Railways Ivatt 2MT Mogul model be considered vintage status? Models of her were first released in 1989, if my brain serves me correctly, so it looks to me like she might be a vintage model. I never carry out repairs of any kind, I just keep the driving wheels clean. You're a Maintenance Master, make no mistake. Not every modeller has skills of your standard. I love your Standard 4 tender engine model. True, she was scrapped in real life, but some of her real life sisters survive on preserved railways. 75069 and 76079 are two of them. I have a slightly smaller Bachmann model, of one of the preserved Standard 4 tank engines: 80104 who is resident on the Swanage Railway in real life. Is there a Standard 4 tank engine hidden in your collection somewhere? I'm sure you showed her number on a list some time ago. Could you give both your Standard 4 tender and tank engines a run together sometime?
Yes, you might recall the series "vote for repair" the very tricky to work on 2-6-4 tank was in that
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Sadly a bit late with the video...the bongo got filed under "R"
Oh no, sorry about that