@@fawadgul4945 he really didn't. Hector was cautious because he thought he was fighting Achilles so he didn't exploit any early openings, likely thinking they were traps. Eventually he grew confident enough to be more aggressive and as a result Patroclus died. The average Trojan soldier Patroclus likely could've handled with his eyes closed, but Hector was a different type of monster.
This was an easy task for Odysseus. He knew about Achilles thirst for eternal glory. Especially his last words in this scene are exactly what Achilles cant refuse.
oh man achilles could possibly take on anyone in game of thrones but yeah if achilles was in that place and time jaime and his guards would not last a minute against the lion of Greece
@@nighthasfallen456 Golden hair, green eyes, master swordsman and ridiculously good looking. I would say Achilles is more like Jaime Lannister rather than Aegon I.
Sean Bean was perfect as Odysseus. He has the cunning, the easy charm, the silver tongue and the twinkle in his eye to play the character. Wish they did a sequel with him on his return home.
Every single manipulation attempted by Odysseus: 1:49...2:07...2:22...2:28...2:40...2:48 Then Patroclus talks about Ajax...2:59 and Odysseus sees Achilles's reaction...3:07... Odysseus's eyes shift as he sees Achilles didn't like the comparison with Ajax 3:09. ...3:12. Patroclus mentions Hector 3:21 and Odysseus uses it. 3:32...3:50...3:55
Odysseus playing mind games with Achilles & Achilles knows it. Yet Achilles still can't help but be convinced with king Odysseus bedding that he joins him to fight in Troy.
He knows Achilles very well and when he said at the very end that this war will never be forgotten, nor will the warriors who fought in it, he knew that was all he needed to say to secure Achilles and his men.
I love how this shows just how far beyond Achilles is with his skills, he's teaching someone to fight just like him, that gets mistaken for moving like him later in the film, yet even while he's half concentrating on a conversation he's still completely in control of the fight and getting finishing strikes too.
kungfuman82 And I would dress up like Patroclus. What do you say? Can we begin our training now before someone dress up like Odysseus shows up too? ✌️😀😃😄
Im sorry but Patroclus is my favorite in the whole movie. He is just so adorable and I just love his innocent enthusiasm and he's so cute and I just wanna hug him!!!!!!!
Patroclus keeps trying to hit Achilles even while Achilles’ attention is somewhat divided by the chatter he still doesn’t get hit. If Achilles didn’t have that one weakness no one can defeat him.
Even though the movie tries to portray the whole universe as being "more realistic" and without any fantasy elements, yeah, Achilles is pretty much invulnerable until shot on the heel. Still, Hector managed to almost cut him in the chest, so that was a good one for him.
I dont think Achilles has the invulnerability like in Illiad, when he fought Boagrius he used the shield to block the spear, and later dodged the second one. If he was invulnerable, he wouldn’t bothet doing all that
@@nhataile4275 he had a conversation with the boy in his first scene who asked him if he's immortal he sarcastically answered him that would he even be bothering with a shield if he is, although he is immortal, he chose not to show it to the world, that's how I understood the character in the movie to make it realistic and less supernatural
@@thepope8240 you know how he is unscratched is because no one ever be able to hit him right? He used shield block and dodge all the time, and not to mention his mother is a normal human, cuz Olympian is deathless and never getting old.
Sick footwork and choreography in this movie if nothing else. One of the few modern movies that really hit the nail on the head. Rob Roy also comes to mind. I miss the good old days of Basil Rathbone and genuine stunt work from the actors. It gave the action so much more weight and intensity. Most sword fights in movies these days don't convince you of the supposed "skill" of the characters. This movie really succeeded. Achilles-Hector one of the best sword/spear/shield fights ever.
In the Behind The Scenes portion of the old DVD I had of this, the director stated, "In the Iliad, it was said that 'Achilles fought in a most godlike fashion'. Well, that's terribly easy to write. How do I portray that properly on screen?'." He then went to explain that, like most of Troy, they mostly pushed for a far more realistic portrayal of things while still trying to stay true to the general heart of Homer's story. To that extend, they largely tried to imitate the most realistic form of fighting that Trojans and Greeks used, with aid from historians and medieval weapons enthusiasts. But for Brad Pitt's portrayal of Achilles', to give him a more "god like" fighting style, they made a very flashy, unrealistic, visually appealing "hollywood" style of fighting, with less focus on realism and far more focus on what looked good and effortless. This can be readily seen here, not just in the way that Achilles' seems to effortlessly outperform the young-and-learning Patroclus but in the dramatic poses, movements, whirls-and-twirls that most stick and sword fighting enthuisiasts would criticize. They tried as best they could to make it look like Achilles' had abnormal, unrealistic fighting skill. So if any might criticize that Achilles' has a most unrealistic fighting style that would never work...that was done on purpose. The idea is to portray that Achilles' is that 1 in a million that can do things other cannot and fighting in a way most could never successfully do. That he fights in a "godlike" fashion.
@Lhein33 well said. and there´s another danger: ppl watching a movie like "Troy" and then thinking they know the Iliad. they don´t: not only are the fates of some major characters different in the movie than in the Iliad (or in other classic literary writings), but the movie fails to transmit the deeper meaning behind many events & incidents. but that´s how it is nowadays: ppl watching a movie think they know the classic writings.
Still, its good that they made a decent effort to film part of it. This movie will cause many people to hear of the Iliad and some will read it who otherwise wouldn't know it existed.
Wish they'd kept Achilles disguising himself as a woman to avoid the war, would have loved to see Odysseus tricking him into revealing himself Also its a shame that Achilles and Patroclus went from incredible close friends, or lovers depending on your reading, to cousins - if you're going to make them family why not at least be brothers? Cousin seems a bit random
And Patroclus was older and as far as I remember was Achilles mentor before becoming his Therapon. This scene was a total role reversal. I wished they went for the lover narrative between the two. It's still a popular ship since Plato 😂.
It's not random. Patroclus father is Menoetius and most versions of the myth have Menoetius as brother of Peleus, Achilles father. So they were indeed cousins.
@@cantbetamed2210Plato recanted that opinion and later said homosexuality was abhorrent. In any case it was merely an opinion of one man, that nobody in his era agreed with.
No, it wasn't. It was awesome...the only thing was that a group of illiad fools got mad that the movie portrayed a realistic view of Troy, and not all the original story filled with gods interfering with mortals.
The song/track used in this extended scene was "stolen"/borrowed/ripped off "The count of Monte Cristo (2002). If you search for the training scene from that movie it is the same exact track.
As witty & cunning Odysseus is, Achilles is able to reason with him very well. But of course Odysseus' reasoning & smarts are of different level that is why he was able to convince Achilles to fight in Troy. Odysseus simply knows how to inflate Achilles' pride by throwing praises at him & yet challenging him that there's no better way to prove that he is the greatest warrior alive than to fight Hector & the Trojans. Such trick by Odysseus was enough to convince Achilles to fight the biggest battle the world would ever known.
These people lived thousands of years ago, if at all, it's a bit late to be arguing about their decisions. In any case, the thing to remember when reading mythology is that all the characters are created as symbols for the people who are listening, offering role models to emulate, and villains to avoid acting like. If you treat them superficially as though they were real people (with flaws like the rest of us) you're missing the point of the story.
Sean Bean:I want to die as i always do. Director:No, this time you will live through the whole thing. Sean Bean:Never, my destiny is to always die in movies! Director:I said no, it is crucial that you stay alive! Sean:Fine, but then everyone else besides the foolish boy dies! Director:What, you can’t be serious! Sean:This is the only way otherwise the deal is off. Director:Aargh, fine!!!
1:18 thank God they took the time to film this shot of someone taking the spear out of the tree to please the test audience member who went "movie sucked cuz why didn't anyone take the spear out of the tree ZERO.STARS"
Are the Greeks tired of fighting each other? For now
5 лет назад
Edinburgh lad : Pitt was mis-cast in this movie. They should have chosen an actor who had the physical build and personality to play the part properly. Pitt was a joke playing the part of Achilles in my opinion.
Only in later classical period legends. In Homer's Illiad the relationship is more ambiguous, there's even a scene where they're banging slave girls together.
Maybe not as "acceptable today" but when you consider the region and humidity maybe wouldn't be so strange, even in present Day the attire in tropical climates is quite different whether because more practical or style. Obviously not proper attire to go to war.
I wish they make a new movie about the Odyssey with Sean Bean playing the leading part, he´s such an amazing Odysseus. And maybe Brian Cox, Brad Pitt & Eric Bana could play again Agamemnon, Achilles & Hector: in Homer´s Odyssey, Odysseus meets them again in Hades, the Greek afterworld.
Considering how they had MENELAUS of all people die in this, I was surprised the guy played by Sean Bean didn't kick the bucket too. XD Good for you, Odysseus.
kinda portrayed achilles as a soft spoken warrior, whereas in mythology, he was always angered by his killings, especially at not killing hector until the fall of troy.
In actual Greek mythology, Patroclus was Achilles's lover. But making them cousins is better than the entire "They were just friends" 19th century historians tried claiming.
In the myth Achilles was dressed like a girl as cover because her mother had a really bad feeling about the war (that's also why she dropped him in the styx) eventually Odysseus tricked him but I wanted to see that: Brad Pitt dressed like a girl!!
Agreed! I find the directors cut very hard to get through because of that reason. This scene sounds like it belongs in Pirates of the Caribbean now. XD
@Lhein33 well thank you for clearing it up.. so who is the author of the Iliad? Homer right? and if it was him is it true that when he wrote it (that and the Odyssey), it was already centuries old?
Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38
Typical Odysseus strategy. Feed the opponent some bullshit and clumsy jabs making him believe you are not a threat. Then strike hard when they lower the guard. Exactly what he pulled on Polyphemus.
@fatsackofchron this is partly true. the real grudge of Poseidon against Odysseus emerged when Odyssus blinded Polyphemus the Cyclops, a son of Poseidon. Poseidon never liked Odysseus, but from this moment he hated him. and the message of the story: never fuck up with a Sea God when your only way of getting home is by the sea. but i agree, Greek mythology is very cool and what I like about Odyssus is, he is both a fighter & a thinker. he finds a solution for every problem. he´s a real badass.
Odysseus: "This war will never be forgotten, nor will the heros who fight in it."
Achilles: "Dude, that's all you needed to say."
Facts 😅
"You have your sword. I have my tricks."
I love this portrayal of these characters.
They should have made a sequel about Odysseus’ journey home starring Sean Bean as Odysseus.
For once, Odysseus won't reach home and die in sea
@@NganthoiKH he doesn't die, he returns after 15 years at sea
@@Sam-mv3if you obviously didn't get my Sean Bean joke.
Be better than the nbc version
@@Sam-mv3if
10 years in the sea.
I love how most of the main characters die and yet Sean Bean remains alive.....
You have to give the actor a break at some point.
Oddyseus story was the next event after Trojan war.
The gods must have felt petty for him 😜
He's Odysseus of course he Survived lol
@@michaeldepinto3562 I don't think you understand the joke
If nothing else, this practice session allows just how unready Patroclus was to fight Hector
Typical teenager. I have the visual part down so I guess I'm a master now
He still did quite well
@@fawadgul4945 he really didn't. Hector was cautious because he thought he was fighting Achilles so he didn't exploit any early openings, likely thinking they were traps. Eventually he grew confident enough to be more aggressive and as a result Patroclus died. The average Trojan soldier Patroclus likely could've handled with his eyes closed, but Hector was a different type of monster.
But truthfully few Warriors would fare better against Achilles
@@SportsSpeak73 but in the book Patroclus was a beast, and he wasnt a kid
every word odysseus said was full of tricks and charge.
in modern day we call them sales man
This was an easy task for Odysseus. He knew about Achilles thirst for eternal glory. Especially his last words in this scene are exactly what Achilles cant refuse.
Don Draper would’ve loved him 😂
sales men & politicians
if only he had Achilles by his side when Jaime Lannister attacked him in the King's Landing
oh man achilles could possibly take on anyone in game of thrones but yeah if achilles was in that place and time jaime and his guards would not last a minute against the lion of Greece
Nah, Achilles would be Aegon the Conqueror...
@@nighthasfallen456 Golden hair, green eyes, master swordsman and ridiculously good looking. I would say Achilles is more like Jaime Lannister rather than Aegon I.
Y r u all u underestimating Sir Arthur
@@zacharyisenbletter8944 Sir Arthur probably would give Achilles the fight of his life.
i love the fighting style they gave achilles
it looks so fluid
Sean Bean was perfect as Odysseus. He has the cunning, the easy charm, the silver tongue and the twinkle in his eye to play the character. Wish they did a sequel with him on his return home.
Every single manipulation attempted by Odysseus: 1:49...2:07...2:22...2:28...2:40...2:48
Then Patroclus talks about Ajax...2:59 and Odysseus sees Achilles's reaction...3:07... Odysseus's eyes shift as he sees Achilles didn't like the comparison with Ajax 3:09.
...3:12. Patroclus mentions Hector 3:21 and Odysseus uses it. 3:32...3:50...3:55
Not manipulating more like the art of persuasion during a conversation
Odysseus playing mind games with Achilles & Achilles knows it. Yet Achilles still can't help but be convinced with king Odysseus bedding that he joins him to fight in Troy.
He knows Achilles very well and when he said at the very end that this war will never be forgotten, nor will the warriors who fought in it, he knew that was all he needed to say to secure Achilles and his men.
@@dbodooley Indeed. Before that, Odysseus was just playing around. He knew what he really needed to say to get Achilles hooked
I love how this shows just how far beyond Achilles is with his skills, he's teaching someone to fight just like him, that gets mistaken for moving like him later in the film, yet even while he's half concentrating on a conversation he's still completely in control of the fight and getting finishing strikes too.
Not going to lie, I'd dress like Achilles. That just looks comfortable.
kungfuman82 And I would dress up like Patroclus. What do you say? Can we begin our training now before someone dress up like Odysseus shows up too? ✌️😀😃😄
@@MarkEmperor I approve
I mean, if I had a midriff like that, sure.
try a robe, especially with the quarantine
@@MarkEmperor I'll do 😉😆 I'll dress like Odysseus
Odysseus did such a hard work on bringing Achilees in, and Agamemnon just destroyed it in a minute.
Achilles: The funny thing is, I know you're playing me. But you're right.
Vegeta?
"This war will never be forgotten".
Ulysses is the best character in that movie. Sean Bean is perfect!
Odysseus, you mean 😅 auto correct, eh?
@@thalmoragent9344 Oh my, I forgot. It's Odysseus, not Ulysses. Ulysses is the roman name (being Italian, false friends are terrible traps). Thanks!
I love how Odysseus is visibly tickling Achilles' balls with that quip at 3:27 and Achilles damn well knows it. That's some great acting right there.
One can tell so much from those facial expressions.
"And here goes one for you buddy."
"Goddammit, you little bastard! You said that on purpose!"
@Asoka S ??? So? That was never my point.
Play your tricks on me, but not my cousin!
Lmao,, you're right.
Just love that Hector is feared by almost every Greek. Just shows how good warrior he was!
Achilles and Odysseus = war bros.
Achilles is the perfect teacher: "When you know how to use it, you won't be taking my orders."
Im sorry but Patroclus is my favorite in the whole movie. He is just so adorable and I just love his innocent enthusiasm and he's so cute and I just wanna hug him!!!!!!!
+Grace Hobson Mine too .And I think Garrett Hedlund look better whit long hair .
+ℜℰℭ CROW Totally. Bradd pitt too for that matter
Me too. Love garrett hedlund so much 💖👍
Hope youre not a guy lol
what a weak bitch lmao
Imagine no one can ever convince Achilles to change his decisions, only Odysseus can
Not really
Patroclus keeps trying to hit Achilles even while Achilles’ attention is somewhat divided by the chatter he still doesn’t get hit. If Achilles didn’t have that one weakness no one can defeat him.
Even though the movie tries to portray the whole universe as being "more realistic" and without any fantasy elements, yeah, Achilles is pretty much invulnerable until shot on the heel.
Still, Hector managed to almost cut him in the chest, so that was a good one for him.
I dont think Achilles has the invulnerability like in Illiad, when he fought Boagrius he used the shield to block the spear, and later dodged the second one. If he was invulnerable, he wouldn’t bothet doing all that
@@nhataile4275 hmm maybe he was trying to keep his invulnerability secret or he was invulnerable due to just not being able to get hit.
@@nhataile4275 he had a conversation with the boy in his first scene who asked him if he's immortal he sarcastically answered him that would he even be bothering with a shield if he is, although he is immortal, he chose not to show it to the world, that's how I understood the character in the movie to make it realistic and less supernatural
@@thepope8240 you know how he is unscratched is because no one ever be able to hit him right? He used shield block and dodge all the time, and not to mention his mother is a normal human, cuz Olympian is deathless and never getting old.
Sick footwork and choreography in this movie if nothing else. One of the few modern movies that really hit the nail on the head. Rob Roy also comes to mind. I miss the good old days of Basil Rathbone and genuine stunt work from the actors. It gave the action so much more weight and intensity. Most sword fights in movies these days don't convince you of the supposed "skill" of the characters. This movie really succeeded. Achilles-Hector one of the best sword/spear/shield fights ever.
"We play with the toys the gods give us."
Love that line.
In the Behind The Scenes portion of the old DVD I had of this, the director stated, "In the Iliad, it was said that 'Achilles fought in a most godlike fashion'. Well, that's terribly easy to write. How do I portray that properly on screen?'."
He then went to explain that, like most of Troy, they mostly pushed for a far more realistic portrayal of things while still trying to stay true to the general heart of Homer's story. To that extend, they largely tried to imitate the most realistic form of fighting that Trojans and Greeks used, with aid from historians and medieval weapons enthusiasts.
But for Brad Pitt's portrayal of Achilles', to give him a more "god like" fighting style, they made a very flashy, unrealistic, visually appealing "hollywood" style of fighting, with less focus on realism and far more focus on what looked good and effortless. This can be readily seen here, not just in the way that Achilles' seems to effortlessly outperform the young-and-learning Patroclus but in the dramatic poses, movements, whirls-and-twirls that most stick and sword fighting enthuisiasts would criticize. They tried as best they could to make it look like Achilles' had abnormal, unrealistic fighting skill.
So if any might criticize that Achilles' has a most unrealistic fighting style that would never work...that was done on purpose. The idea is to portray that Achilles' is that 1 in a million that can do things other cannot and fighting in a way most could never successfully do. That he fights in a "godlike" fashion.
3:32 the smile of Brad Pitt tells the whole climax of the Hector Achilles rivaly XD
Odysseus and Hector are my favorites.
Convincing Achilles to join your army, that's soldiering
i love the dramatic zoom in 3:52, modern directors dont use it much.
I need the extended version of this great movie !!! It will be even greater as far as I see director's cuts !
an Odyssey movie with modern special effects and Sean Bean as Odysseus
by Zeus, that would be an epic movie
Convincing Achilles to join the war effort, now that's soldiering .
So, THIS is the movie where Sean Bean smiled just for one second! 😁😁😁😁
He smiles a lot, actually.
Sean Bean is perfection. That is all you need to know.
“Am i the whore of the battlefield?” 😂😂
It digusts me to sse how so many people watching this video haven’t for once read the Illiad or The Song of Achilles
One of the most enjoyable movies scene
Wtf Sean Bean didn't die in the end?!
no, i was actually as surprised as you.
jolt He has to journey on the Odyssey
+John Yang yeah
During which, everyone back home thinks he's dead. So, reported dead. Just not really dead.
Somewhere there's a directors cut where he dies... ;o)
@Lhein33 well said. and there´s another danger: ppl watching a movie like "Troy" and then thinking they know the Iliad. they don´t: not only are the fates of some major characters different in the movie than in the Iliad (or in other classic literary writings), but the movie fails to transmit the deeper meaning behind many events & incidents.
but that´s how it is nowadays: ppl watching a movie think they know the classic writings.
Still, its good that they made a decent effort to film part of it. This movie will cause many people to hear of the Iliad and some will read it who otherwise wouldn't know it existed.
"Nervous?"
"Petrified"
5/5 Classic!!!
All they had to do was tell Achilles “you’d be going into a war that’s all just a mistake instead of dying for a cause” and he’d be still alive
The only war epic where Sean Bean survived...
Imagine if Ned went Odyseus mode in GoT.
Yeah, clever. It wouldn't have been his head rolling.
The Game of Thrones wouldve been swift. Lol Jon as King before the end of the season xD
Than he would be little finger
"you have your sword i have my words"-odysseus hahahaha touche :)
i really like the colour of the clothes that Achilles is wearing
Blue symbolizes royalty - and Achilles was the ruler of Pthia.
The music in this film is the best. Scene Troy like 50 million times it’s my fav film !!
Hector is my favorite
It's funny how changing and removing music in scenes can completely change the tone
Wish they'd kept Achilles disguising himself as a woman to avoid the war, would have loved to see Odysseus tricking him into revealing himself
Also its a shame that Achilles and Patroclus went from incredible close friends, or lovers depending on your reading, to cousins - if you're going to make them family why not at least be brothers? Cousin seems a bit random
It’s the bond itself that was important, no matter how you define it.
Actually in the Iliad they were second cousins
And Patroclus was older and as far as I remember was Achilles mentor before becoming his Therapon. This scene was a total role reversal. I wished they went for the lover narrative between the two. It's still a popular ship since Plato 😂.
It's not random. Patroclus father is Menoetius and most versions of the myth have Menoetius as brother of Peleus, Achilles father. So they were indeed cousins.
@@cantbetamed2210Plato recanted that opinion and later said homosexuality was abhorrent. In any case it was merely an opinion of one man, that nobody in his era agreed with.
Pirates of the Caribbean music.
Divitty Bissel which is odd since Hans Zimmer didn't do the music for this movie
James Horner scored Troy not that loser zimmie guy.
@@jimhults2490 Bruh don’t u diss Hans Zimmer like that
@@pelicanchampion8629 but what happened to the original score horner did tho lmao
@@christiangarcia01 They butchered it in the Directors cut. It's awful!
Looking at this makes me realize how much the movie was ruined by the cuts they made.
No, it wasn't. It was awesome...the only thing was that a group of illiad fools got mad that the movie portrayed a realistic view of Troy, and not all the original story filled with gods interfering with mortals.
The music is better in the cut version but I agree these scenes are golden
I think the theatrical version had a better sountrack arrangement, but these complete scenes are indeed better.
No no no. I mean, I appreciate the extra bits, but the theatrical score with Achilles´s theme is far better.
The song/track used in this extended scene was "stolen"/borrowed/ripped off "The count of Monte Cristo (2002). If you search for the training scene from that movie it is the same exact track.
As witty & cunning Odysseus is, Achilles is able to reason with him very well. But of course Odysseus' reasoning & smarts are of different level that is why he was able to convince Achilles to fight in Troy. Odysseus simply knows how to inflate Achilles' pride by throwing praises at him & yet challenging him that there's no better way to prove that he is the greatest warrior alive than to fight Hector & the Trojans. Such trick by Odysseus was enough to convince Achilles to fight the biggest battle the world would ever known.
lol, Sean Bean got lucky he got odysseus' part.
These people lived thousands of years ago, if at all, it's a bit late to be arguing about their decisions. In any case, the thing to remember when reading mythology is that all the characters are created as symbols for the people who are listening, offering role models to emulate, and villains to avoid acting like. If you treat them superficially as though they were real people (with flaws like the rest of us) you're missing the point of the story.
This is an attitude people need more of when digesting stories.
You knew he was Zeus in the Percy Jackson and the Olympians movie right? LOL :D
Sean Bean:I want to die as i always do.
Director:No, this time you will live through the whole thing.
Sean Bean:Never, my destiny is to always die in movies!
Director:I said no, it is crucial that you stay alive!
Sean:Fine, but then everyone else besides the foolish boy dies!
Director:What, you can’t be serious!
Sean:This is the only way otherwise the deal is off.
Director:Aargh, fine!!!
man i wish i could fight like achillies
no ,sure
It is much better to be able to talk like Odysseus.
1:18 thank God they took the time to film this shot of someone taking the spear out of the tree to please the test audience member who went "movie sucked cuz why didn't anyone take the spear out of the tree ZERO.STARS"
Brad had some very good lines in this movie, if only he didn't mutter and mumble them. If you listen to what he says it's quite insightful.
Are the Greeks tired of fighting each other?
For now
Edinburgh lad : Pitt was mis-cast in this movie. They should have chosen an actor who had the physical build and personality to play the part properly. Pitt was a joke playing the part of Achilles in my opinion.
@ I think his build is just fine. He looks pretty athletic and Achilles was more about agility, speed and skill than strength.
@ Most people likes his Achillee
@@charlesd-wayne9449 it was good
So that's how they came up with the costume design for Danerys.
3:06 Bruce Lee: umm, can we have a word Brad?
damn patroclus got his ass kicked!!
Oh.. come on, Patroclus was not Achille's COUSIN! He was his lover! Hollywood; get over your homophobia and be honest for once.
Only in later classical period legends. In Homer's Illiad the relationship is more ambiguous, there's even a scene where they're banging slave girls together.
@@chiefjudgefish4193 Also, cousin relationships were a thing in ancient Greece.
@@chiefjudgefish4193 they literally put their ashes in the same urn so they would be together for eternity.
Carlos Valdez And? That’s still extrapolation based on our own culture.
Patroclus father is Menoetius and Menoetius was the brother of Peleus, Achilles father. So they were cousins.
The fight choreography here was sublime.
Maybe not as "acceptable today" but when you consider the region and humidity maybe wouldn't be so strange, even in present Day the attire in tropical climates is quite different whether because more practical or style.
Obviously not proper attire to go to war.
I need to dress like achilles, that looks so fresh and comfortable.
I wish they make a new movie about the Odyssey with Sean Bean playing the leading part, he´s such an amazing Odysseus.
And maybe Brian Cox, Brad Pitt & Eric Bana could play again Agamemnon, Achilles & Hector: in Homer´s Odyssey, Odysseus meets them again in Hades, the Greek afterworld.
Story of Odysseus (Odyssey) happened after trojan war. I like Odyssey more than trojan war.
Considering how they had MENELAUS of all people die in this, I was surprised the guy played by Sean Bean didn't kick the bucket too. XD Good for you, Odysseus.
Achilles woulda been a big help when he met the cyclops
kinda portrayed achilles as a soft spoken warrior, whereas in mythology, he was always angered by his killings, especially at not killing hector until the fall of troy.
But he did repent and weep over the death of Hector after Priam spoke to him,
In actual Greek mythology, Patroclus was Achilles's lover. But making them cousins is better than the entire "They were just friends" 19th century historians tried claiming.
One does not simply survive in a movie
I'll never understand why the director's cut wanted to sound like Pirates of the Caribbean.
One of the films where Sean Bean doesn't die 😌
Plus it's a movie he's guaranteed to live thru lol
In the myth Achilles was dressed like a girl as cover because her mother had a really bad feeling about the war (that's also why she dropped him in the styx) eventually Odysseus tricked him but I wanted to see that: Brad Pitt dressed like a girl!!
3:34
Achilles: The thing is, I know you're playing me...
💙🇬🇷 ACHILLES DEMIGOD HERO 🇬🇷💙
I don't like the extended version because the producers changed the soundtrack. The soundtracks in the original version of this movie were epic!
Agreed! I find the directors cut very hard to get through because of that reason. This scene sounds like it belongs in Pirates of the Caribbean now. XD
@@CanImperator I'm glad you and I agree.
Patroclus died to become reborn as as Flyn hero in tron
Nice Scene of the movie!
The music in the Director's Cut is so much better.
Theatrical version was Wolfgang Peterson, and the Director Cut is John Dante.
Nope.
@Lhein33 well thank you for clearing it up.. so who is the author of the Iliad? Homer right? and if it was him is it true that when he wrote it (that and the Odyssey), it was already centuries old?
@Jazmin3319 wait, how is Briseis ungrateful? I mean, in her defense, her entire family forgot about her until the last half hour of the movie...
Watching this clip while reading Song of Achilles is hilarious
What a funny sound of Patroclus 0:48 'Nervous?' Lol😆😆😆😆😆👧🏻
Nope. Silent Hill, National Treasure, Sharpe series (I believe). There's more, I just don't know them all. Haha.
Odysseus is one of the best characters in the Illiad. They lost a huge chance to make a sequel (Odyssey) with Sean Bean.
Then Peter said to them, “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Acts 2:38
Amen
Typical Odysseus strategy. Feed the opponent some bullshit and clumsy jabs making him believe you are not a threat. Then strike hard when they lower the guard. Exactly what he pulled on Polyphemus.
Hey, Sean Bean survived in this movie!
@Jazmin tully can you please put this scene in HD
What’s with the Count of Monte Cristo music?
i so want to learn from achilles...he's amazing, fast, strong and charming ^_^ and yes ima girl
You can learn from me.I have a good sword ;)
@@thalessilva1 Which sword are you talking about? ahahahahaha
@@amaxwiththefacts 🤤😏🤔
Alec Trevelyan, Captain Hook and Tyler Durden
only movie that sean bean survived
@fatsackofchron this is partly true. the real grudge of Poseidon against Odysseus emerged when Odyssus blinded Polyphemus the Cyclops, a son of Poseidon. Poseidon never liked Odysseus, but from this moment he hated him. and the message of the story: never fuck up with a Sea God when your only way of getting home is by the sea.
but i agree, Greek mythology is very cool and what I like about Odyssus is, he is both a fighter & a thinker. he finds a solution for every problem. he´s a real badass.
"never fuck up with a Sea God when your only way of getting home is by the sea"
Well put!