Candace Owen's "Birth Story" is DANGEROUS medical misinformation...
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2022
- Candace Owen's birth story she recently shared is jam-packed with really bad and very dangerous medical misinformation on GBS. What's the truth??
References:
First Decade Mortality Risk: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30018...
First Day Weight Loss: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
GBS: www.nature.com/articles/s4139...
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Screening Accuracy Times: pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8885919/
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ACOG Publication: www.acog.org/clinical/clinica...
Insurance and AMA: www.annemergmed.com/article/S...
Adverse Outcomes & Racism: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
Disparities in GBS screening rates: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
Racial Disparities in NICU: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
Disparities in Perinatal Health: www.nature.com/articles/s4137...
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She should be ashamed! I lost my son at 2 days old due to GBS. We didn’t know because I hadn’t been tested. I’m disgusted with her misinformation and I’m extremely upset and aggravated with her whole video.
I am so incredibly sorry this happened to your son. ❤ I’m pinning this bc I think seeing that this is real matters. Thank you for sharing your story. I’m so sorry your family has felt this incredible loss.
@@MamaDoctorJones his name is Wyatt Glenn Matthew Collins, Floyd county Kentucky. I have a grave stone and obituaries to hold onto. Tearfully, I want to thank you for posting this. I hope and pray other new moms will find your video and will be advised of the truth and I pray it saves more babies!
@@WhitFyffe thanks for sharing Wyatt’s name and story. ❤
Sending you all the love!
That is so horrible and I am so incredibly sorry for your loss!
If only more people would take the time to do research and use their platform to let’s say interview a doctor who actually knows what they’re talking about.
Then she could have told her story and asked questions about it, that way her story was told without misinformation.
But this Candace woman does this every time. She thinks a quick google search tells her everything there is to know and delivers it as factual evidence.
I agree with you, it is enraging!
My beautiful son Andrew died 24 hours after his birth from GBS infection. He became septic and there was nothing that could save him. That was in 1987. I’d give anything to have had that test. All these years later their is a hole in my heart. The guilt I’ve lived with almost did me in.
So sorry for your loss 😢❤
So very sorry for your loss
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So so sorry x
Yes, it’s frustrating to be woken up for regular health tests for you and your baby. You know what else is frustrating? Your baby being sick and the hospital not being as attentive as they were. I imagine that’s much worse.
That's actually the only thing I agree with her about. Of course tests are important but most hospitals do not see sleep as the important part of healing it is. After my surgery I was woken up for breakfast, for the possibilty to buy lottery tickets, the newspaper, for pain killers... when I was just exhausted and wanted to be left alone. And during flu/RS season my toddler and me were sharing a hospital room with 3 other sets of parents and toddlers who all suffered from obstructive bronchitis and needed to use a type of inhaler (quite a loud machine) some every 2 hours, some every 3 hours, and for some reason they all were on different schedules so a nurse would come into the room every few minutes and the machines werre whirring almost the whole night.
@@annaf3915So Very True!!😅😊
Dear Candunce!!What makes you so special??!!!
Newsflash:They do that to nearly everybody in a hospital,not just you numbnuts!!
@@annaf3915 At least the commercial douchebags exploiting the postpartum euphoria should kept outside.
@@annaf3915 Ive never personally had this experience in a hospital but Im so sorry you did. However I have had the privlege of having very good doctors throughout my life. More hospitals need to be attentive to their patiences wants and needs. What you went through is not acceptable
It just feels like Candace is so unnecessarily combative about everything
Right. Because she’s desperate for attention
She has 2 brain cells
YES! Everything! Even such a beautiful thing as having a healthy baby at a hospital where staff cares about your baby's health and well being. Candace Owen is UNbelievable! No one should believe her about ANYthing!
She is extremely insecure over women and extremely hateful person.
Alarmism sells.
So she is perfectly fine with rules and regulations that force women into carrying a child full term, but she is absolutely outraged by regulations put in place to make sure babies are healthy after they're born? Seems pretty inconsistent to me. And the fact that she refused antibiotics because of her own preferences, regardless of how it would affect her baby, shows that on some level she does believe that the mother's ownership of her own body trumps that of the unborn child. If she's so vehemently against monitoring the health of her newborn, just imagine what she'll be like if that kid ever develops an illness.
It also shows that she may have heard misinformation about antibiotics, along with other misinformation.
This is why I call “pro-life” people “pro-(forced) birth” people. As long as you give birth they have zero care about that baby’s life after.
Ohhh! Such fantastic points! Thank you!
It's because babies are a punishment for women "having sex" (regardless of if it was consensual or the pregnancy was the result of sex) and that children are essentially slaves to them so you can do whatever you want and justify it.
With the reason women exist to them being having sex with men and thus having babies so they're essentially punishing you for existing.
They reinforce their gender/family hierarchy they want, dad owns mom and mom owns the kids.
They exploit dad at work so he goes home and exploits mom and mom then turns around and exploits the kids because it's easier to reinforce inter-generational trauma than fight the system that exploits them.
She's absolutely crazy!
I was GBS Pos when I had my daughter. During delivery, the Drs failed to administer antibiotics. Because of this, my daughter developed spinal meningitis and almost died. PLEASE take GBS serious! The Drs test for this for a reason!
My female cousin got meningitis during childhood and has blindness on one eye as a consequence.
my bil had it as a baby too, does your daughter have learning behaviors, or does her back hurt when shes in the fetus position?
@@shevahauser1780 she has trouble with her speech and was behind on all her marks throughout her early childhood.
My friend got meningitis when she was about 3. She recovered without any problems but the doctored kept telling her mum it was a miracle
@@coasttocoast2011 theres a difference between bacterial and viral, it may have to do with that?
I liked that the nurses kept checking on us. Me and my husband felt we were being very well taken care of. 🙂
Right we would just go back to sleep when they left the room 🤦♀️
Unless you want to sleep.
Yess me too & they would bring me iced waterr each timeee 🙏
They were keeping an eye on you clown lol
While you were sleeping?
I almost died at 10 days old of GBS in the 90s. It was very upsetting for my parents hearing that I had a low chance of making it. My mom cried while talking about it recently. How Candace can say that this is a thing that virtually never happens is beyond me and is such a harmful thing to say.
What happend?
I've never heard of a baby being damaged by having these tests. I have heard of babies growing up with permanent disabilities because their doctors neglected to do the tests. Their relatives were very mad about it, for many years. Most people want their babies to be safe and healthy. How could anyone think that hospitals are TRYING to get more patients?
Especially nowadays! Hospitals are over capacity and in crisis. I don’t work in healthcare but I’d put money on the healthcare staff praying daily for fewer patients not more! She’s disgusting
I don't agree with her view regarding this. To be fair though she didn't say it was to get more patients, but more money from extending the stay of the patients they already had, as both her and baby were already patients. This is coming from someone who believes in these tests and how important they are, but I felt the need to clarify. ❤️
@@Mama_Bear524 Not all hospitals are over capacity, we've been to quite a few during the panarama and they were quite slow and not busy. Also, if there is such a struggle going on, how do you explain the nurses wasting valuable time and dancing on TikTok?
Overtesting is actually a real thing, because in certain situations, false positives occur. This does cause harm, because it leads to additional unnecessary procedures and stress/anxiety for the patient, while the hospital gets paid for it. So to claim that tests are harmless generally is untrue. It really depends.
I think we're at an odd point where people can easily believe that we are naturally very healthy and have a good chance of living long healthy lives with no intervention. They turn on modern medicine because they think it's unnecessary, and not the reason we can cure some cancers, fight some infections, etc. I can say I would've died as a young kid without modern medicine, and taking care of my health issues has even improved just in the past two decades because of medical advances. I can also list off a long list of people I know who would have died without modern medicine, and most of them are kids.
My oldest brother died to group b strep less than 24 hours after birth since back then they didnt yet test for it in my country. They tried antibiotics after he started showing symptoms but at that point it was too late for him. I find it sad that people openly demonize antibiotics because they are one of the leading reasons infant mortality is much lesser in western countries together with vaccines.
That's so sad! I was positive when I had my son, thankfully I was able to get antibiotics before he was born.
Sorry you lost your little brother.
So sorry. Candace actually enrages me.
Sending love
I hope things get better for you
Wow, when I gave birth to my daughter in a hospital in Zambia at 7:30 am, I didn't see a single nurse or anyone until 12 midday. I was so desperately thirsty! My mother-in-law was thankfully there and she helped me to clean up in a bath after the birth. I don't know what i would've done without her. I've been in hospital many times since then in South Africa and it's really normal to be checked on regularly. In fact, it's a good thing. She was privileged to get all these tests on her newborn. And anyway, she's not going to get much sleep at home. The baby will keep her awake. I'm shocked at her video.
I was confused at her getting mad at the staff for not letting her sleep more than a few hours; like girl you’re suppose to be feeding your baby that often either way 😅
Oh my gosh that's exactly !! Candace is so ungrateful and paranoid. She has the worst attitude and it's very concerning she has a platform to spew her vitriol and negativity
She probably has round the clock Nannie’s so that she won’t miss a minute of sleep.
I’m sorry, as a black woman who just had her first baby last year, my biggest fear was not coming home, dying during delivery or being neglected. But instead I had the most attentive nurses who checked on me and my son non stop and it made me feel so safe and cared for. I was also GBS + and would not even think twice to not receive antibiotics. I’m gonna do everything in my baby’s best interest. I’m not gonna go on the chance that I may no longer be GBS positive and roll the dice on treatment. You gave birth at 7pm candance, I gave birth at 2:55 in the morning on a Wednesday and was admitted on Monday for an induction, 12 hours in triage before getting a room and then 24 hours of laboring before needing a c section, was I tired hell yes, I was in the hospital for a total of 7 days, was I mad that my medical team was checking on me and making me lose sleep? Nope I was very very grateful! I actually missed them so much when I came home. They made me feel like VIP and calmed all of my fears.
what does your skin color have to do with this?
@@jesseenixon2893 did you watch the video? Black women are more likely to die from childbirth related causes
im so happy to hear that you were treated well
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That's so awesome. Candace has such a nasty attitude. She is so ungrateful. I feel like she has mental problems by the way she talks and how paranoid and mean she is.
As a postpartum nurse, this was hard for me to watch. She should try being on the other side, being tasked with taking care of 3, 4, sometimes 5 mom/baby couplets at a time and see how easy it is to get everything done in one shift. We don't knock to be annoying, we knock to give you the care you and your baby need after delivery.
You weren't my nurse, but you've treated mothers like me.
Thank you for your persistence. Thank you for the days when it's hard. Thank you for fighting through hell and back, holding mamas as their babies' lives are in precious danger. Thank you for risking the grief and pain when we lose mothers or babies.
In my experience, postpartum and labor/delivery nurses were the best! Thanks for the important work you are doing to support new parents! There is so much going on hormonally, emotionally, etc and I’m sure it’s exhausting to care for essentially 2 patients at a time.
Thank u for your care. I was annoyed by the lack of sleep and cooperated with everything including their offer to take my baby to the nursery for 3 or 4 hours so I could sleep. All the test were done boom bam boom we left after the 48 hours as and everyone was fine. Idk why she’s being such a butt about something everyone has to go through
As a Level2 and NICU RN, testIng for and treating Grp B Strep has saved the lives of life so many babies. Not to mention the very possible decrease of Crib death at 2 weeks and 2 months when the organism presents it self.
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@@AllIAm1 I do think there was a lack of communication between the hospital staff and the patient.
But I am also a different breed from other patients. I ask a lot of medical and science based question about testing, results, normal ranges, diagnosis. Essentially the 5 whys. I grew up with a surgeon for a grandpa and a scrub nurse for a grandma. They encouraged me to ask questions.
One of the other problems with saying the names of providers out loud is that because of HIPAA law, those providers CANNOT come out publicly to explain the situation or give their perspective on the interaction, because they would be giving out confidential patient information. It effectively means that patients can trash providers any which way and they cannot defend themselves at all. This also puts them at risk of PHYSICAL danger and abuse.
How does HIPPA effect the nurses ability to sue for defamation when Owens called her "clueless"?
I’m pretty sure that when you sue for defamation you have to prove like standing by giving evidence that what has been said cannot be reasonably disbelieved or something like that. Idk. I could be explaining that wrong.
Either way. Lawyers are expensive.
i personally think HIPAA should be amended such that once the patient releases that information publicly, it is no longer considered confidential and can be freely discussed by all involved parties. i mean candace sure as shit doesn't think her patient information is confidential since she's voluntarily sharing it with an audience of half a million people.
@@danielle-rw3zx I mean with responding on a public platform-basically what I mean is the providers here can’t go respond in a similar way to the way that the accusations were made, like making a video like this, because of privacy laws.
There are numerous ways to respond without HIPAA violation.
Wow! I was positive for GBS and the doctor couldn't give it to me in time because when I got there my baby was already on her way, I was terrified because of the horror stories I read about, where did she get these statistics, a cereal box? I thank God my child wasn't affected and feel aweful for those who were affected. So happy you made this video, her "advice" could potentially kill a newborn 🤦♀️
My niece got sepsis from GBS in spite of the antibiotics, maybe also because it was a very fast delivery. Luckily she made it and will be 9 years old next month.
I agree with Candace on the sleep issue. I had four healthy deliveries and didn’t sleep a wink until I got home because of how many times I was woken up by nurses. When I had a twenty-week loss and was in the hospital for blood loss and infection, I was so thankful for my mom because she sat in my room and would guard the door if I was asleep. I remember one time specifically because I had just barely dozed off(that stage where you still hear what’s going on, but can’t really engage) and the door opened. I just heard my mom whisper yell “No! She just got to sleep! She’s been through too much and needs to rest! Get out! Come back when she’s awake!” I felt such gratitude for my mother in that moment. No nurses bothered me again while I was sleeping, aside from one middle of the night check.
Mothers never stop mothering and that's a beautiful thing.
That's a really nice story Rebecca, sounds like unconditional love to me
whats annoying is when they tell you to sleep and get rest when they know very well they will be back to wake you in 20 min. I don mind the checks its part of it.
I’m so sorry for your loss ❤. How sweet of your mama to protect you.
Blood loss and infection but don't check on me. That should never happen. If you did not want to be disturbed, then go AMA.
You could have had a note on your door that stated you did not want unnecessary checks by staff. Otherwise, respect the people who are there to make sure you go home to your family.
Your mother's actions were not helpful. She could have gone to the nursing station to rectify the situation without her having to whisper yell...whatever that is.
I get staying in a hospital can be frustrating when you’re tired, and ready to get home to start your new life in a comfortable environment. However her biggest complaint is them making sure her baby, and her were healthy before discharging them. What a privileged complaint.
I thought it was that they threatened to call CPS on her.
Right!! Her complaints are totally First World Problems!!!
I also don't understand that Candunce thinks babies are going to sleep thru the night in the hospital when they are like ten minutes old?! She is complaining about a baby being woken in the night, but both my daughters ate and slept constantly on their own schedule without regard for when I wanted to sleep! And that is what they are supposed to do!!!
She’s a mega Karen. She has put people on blast for minor things that had absolutely nothing to do with her.
Yall are insane why did her baby need to be weighed at 2am not even 24 hrs old
@@rayshonariley1930 they have protocols in every hospital to make sure they don’t miss anything critical with the baby before they go home. Imagine the baby in its first days passes away from sids, or needs medical intervention and the doctors/nurses didn’t catch it because the mother couldn’t wait a few days to get home to make sure their child was in perfect health. I have two kids by c section who had prolonged stays in the hospital. I was extremely tired and sick of all the visits to my room, but I was grateful they cared enough to check in on both of us.
As a European I must say I don't understand this woman. I'm 20 weeks pregnant and feel so lucky and blessed to have such good, attentive medical care. Knowing that not everyone in the US can have access to what she's had, I can't believe she's complaing. She's acting like she was at a hotel instead of a hospital. Such entitled behavour.
She should be ashamed of herself. I am so damn happy I and my loved ones are in Europe.
if i remember correctly she is pro privatized healthcare, because our universal Healthcare is 'communist and evil' and now she complains about privatized healthcare
thats incredebly funny to me
@@mona-devourer_of_cakesI understand that one might better laugh than cry. Still, it's a seriuos issue. As a European, I am profundly scandalised and confused
As a nurse for 10 years in the USA. I can confirm that many patients confused hospitals with hotels...I have gotten yelled at for things as small as not grabbing a cup of ice and "bad service". This person is very entitled. There is no one in the medical profession who intentionally bothers anyone. We just want their safety and good health.
@@konquerorkei having had two parents who have been hospitalized at different times, I'm grateful for attentive nurses. They are the most gracious and compassionate people, and I recognize their hard work and dedication to helping people.
Candace is definitely not wrong about the number of interruptions from hospital staff when you're trying to rest postpartum. I had a c-section so I ended up having to stay for almost a week after delivery and it was brutal. They were constantly coming in and my husband and I were both exhausted (he was really sick at the time). It is what it is and we just accepted it. I'm glad they checked on me and my baby often to make sure that nothing was wrong, but the pushy photographers and other nonsense didn't need to happen either. Not a perfect system, by any means. Going home felt like a vacation, it was so nice to finally be alone and be able to rest. But overall, I understand why the hospital does the things they do. It's to prevent unnecessary illness and death, even if it seems extreme at the time.
Very well-said. If Owens had communicated openly about how frustrated she was, I feel like the hospital staff would've explained their reasons for coming in so often and she'd gain a better understanding and therefore acceptance of their reasons (along with discussing how inappropriate the offer of book sales and photography were), instead of her apparently building resentment towards the people who were just there to help.
Yes there must be a happy medium.
Candace comes across as the most entitled Karen you can possibly imagine: wealthy, spoiled, DEEPLY uninformed; she thinks she knows better than every nurse and doctor she meets. And after having time to think about her poor behavior, she DOUBLES DOWN on it. It’s exhausting to watch.
I know right!!! What makes it even worse is that she calls herself a Christian, but her role on the internet is only one of agressiveness, hate , judgement, and disrespect! It’s mindblowing! If I agree with some things she says, yes. (Not on this video ofc) But she looses every single credibility when she makes a choice of choosing hate and all of those devil characteristics to speak her truth. It is unbelievable !
You sound pretty judgemental yourself hmmm?
What has she doubled down on exactly? She worked for all her money and who is giving her anything she didn't work for?
Exhausting only to the feeble minded
Wealthy and spoiled?? She grew up in poverty and worked her a$$ off for every dime she has. Maybe you should also look up the definition of spoiled as well.
I can't believe she just came out with the names of the staff like that. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if those people get harassed because of this.
They should sue her.
@@B.H.56 100%
Probably made them up like everything else
I’d sue her for defamation
Her ilk love using stochastic terrorism against people that they feel deserve it.
That way if something bad happens to their target, they can claim they did nothing wrong.
If she hadn’t gotten those visits from the nurse during her time in the hospital and something bad happened to her and/or her baby, she’d be online saying how incompetent the doctors and nurses were 🙄.
100%.
And pulling the “race card!” That she loves to tell black people to stop using! Lol
That's exactly what I was thinking!
I am from Malaysia. I have 5 kids. With my baby number 3 and 4 - I am tested positive with GBS. Both my baby girls got infected hours after birth and admit to NICU even I am on antibiotics during child birth. The hospitals and I are prepared for the labour and I am made very aware of what will happen. My baby no 3 got better after a week in NICU and no 4 got better 2 weeks after. Both are alive and well now with no side effect. Get ourselves educated on the matters mothers, and be mentally prepared too. Amazingly with baby no 5, my GBS has gone and me and the baby are both well.
My niece also got infected in spite of the antibiotics, maybe because it was a fast delivery and they didn't have time to work. She developed sepsis but luckily made it through
The Dolly Parton book people were the least annoying thing about being in the hospital!! My daughter is now 2yrs old and still getting these AMAZING free books from Dolly's organization and we are so grateful that we signed that card!!
It doesn't matter if their organization was good them interrupting a newly delivered mother and child was really inappropriate and one of Candace's valid points
you can also fill out something online and get the same thing
Did they wake you up to talk to you about it?
Interesting that she only " forever remembers the name" of those that upset her and not the lovely staff that tried to make her time better!
Right!! Thank you!
That's a really good point! It definitely shows her character 😞
Cause that's how she attracts her viewers.
That’s her in a nutshell tbh. Horrible negative person
"Cleaely dragging your feet"
Uhh noo the hospital just doesnt base priorities on needs of patients instead of their wants
My daughter was born in April 1992 with GBS septicemia. At the time of her birth they had just begun to screen for it but I wasn't screened. My daughter spent 10 days in the NICU and had learning disabilities and developmental delays... she is fine now at age 30 but things never came easy for her. As a mom, I will never forget how sick my newborn was and that the doctor told me she only had about a 50% chance to make it to the next morning It really was a race between the bacteria and the antibiotics.
Well I am very glad to hear she made it through, and is now thriving. ❤
Hi my daughter was born in 2014 and had GBS. She has learning disabilities and behavioral issues. I never made the connection. Did anyone ever confirm that was the cause? I'm not doubting you by the way. I'm just curious as it sounds similar to my 8 year old who also had GBS & spent 12 days in NICU.
Thank you for sharing your expertise! Unfortunately people like Candace are so dangerous because they can speak their misinformation with a small side of intelligence.
The lack of intelligence is not the problem: the serious lack of responsibility of having such a massive platform and spreading disinformation on it willingly is.
Candace cracks me up. She has been married for 5 seconds , she has been a mom for 2.5 seconds yet she presents herself as an expert in well everything . God . There is a reason why she doesn’t have guests on her show .
This is a common occurrence for here in just about every subject she tries to tackle. You can see it in her arguments against Climate Change, Vaccines, Abortion, Masks etc.. she literally only gathers about 2 seconds of information and then thinks she has mastered it.
She's also been married to a white Englishman for 2 seconds and so now racism is made up and the bullying she suffered as a kid that one her a 5-figure lawsuit for racial discrimination never happened.
Agreed 💯💯
The right wing got a taste of talking medicine without having medical credentials during the Covid insanity and now they're going to pretend to be medical experts on everything. @@Maya_Ruinz
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Neonatologist here! Thank you so much for this video. You broke down the neonatal risks of GBS excellently and so thoughtfully. Since I wasn't there, I can't speak to any of the issues with miscommunication, but when I first read about her story, I felt so sad for her nursing team. I imagined how frustrating that must have been for everyone involved. Also I'd like to add- the GBS guidelines have changed quite drastically over the past 20 years. Now we do way fewer blood tests on, and give fewer antibiotics to well-appearing babies whose mothers had GBS colonization. Just like you explained brilliantly, we're all just following the evidence....
Oh my goodness this is the ultimate crossover! MDJ and Tala Talks! Thank you both for always putting out such helpful, evidence-based content. Much love and appreciation from this NICU nurse ❤️
I love the word NEONATE it's super cute
Candace doesn’t really care about evidence. Sign me the NICU nurse.
@@Bmf214 I thought the same thing. Doctor mama was giving her was too much benefit of the doubt. I'm sure she's exaggerating like crazy and more.
@NICU Tala Talks If a mother tested positive for GBS at 35 weeks, can antibiotics be given a couple days prior to delivery? My thought is that there is a possibility that the delivery can progress to quickly for antibiotics to be given during labor.
As a nurse myself this is so frustrating. If we check on a patient too much, I’m a bad nurse. I don’t check on a patient enough, I’m a bad nurse.
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I hear you. I'm a nurse too.
This particular person just seems like she is probably like that with absolutely everything. I am sorry you probably have patients like her from time to time.
I have a question and thank you for what you do. Why did the nurse have to knock? Why couldn't they come in and take the babies vitals without knocking and potentially wake up mom. I do realize that moms may wake up without the knocking and I'm not a mom. It just seems like she emphasized the knocking a lot which makes me think that's what woke her up. Is it normal for nurses to constantly knock instead of coming in. Could she have asked for that? God bless you nurses. Nursing school I swear is harder than law school. My girlfriend is a nurse and 3 women in her class got divorced. I remember her books. The schooling is insane. Your over worked, under paid and UNDER APPRECIATED!
As a nurse, you should recognize which patients actually need to be checked on, and who can wait.
Candace "reports" and complains about people who act like they're entitled and spoiled but what i think she doesn't realise is; is that she's become one of them. 😮
Agreed, she's a total Karen
@@annaf3915Very true.
I like how unbiased this was, where Candace was correct and just in her feelings youa awknowledged that and where she was wrong you corrected her with facts
I was hoping someone would comment this. I also loved how MDJ was able to navigate this w/o bias, acknowledge her feelings and provide correction in a positive easily digestible informative way. I hope I can do better at listening and communicating myself when I’m in a difficult/emotion based conversation ❤
It was biased. In the entire retelling of Candace’s story. Purposefully. To justify her behavior. There were mistakes made on the part of the medical staff. But what was cut out was all of her bad behavior. If this is what she presents in public…imagine her behind closed doors.
My daughter lost an entire pound in the hospital due to feeling issues and she was nearly 9 pounds to start with. If they hadn’t weighed her often, I would have been sent home unable to properly nurse my daughter. They then sent in a nursing specialist to help me I’m glad they came in.
Those are wonderful people!
That wouldn't have happened - your daughter would've been weighed at discharge. Weighing frequently and when the mother is literally begging to get some rest is unnecessary and it wouldn't have hurt anyone to do it later.
@@michellebaker6302 she could be lying
@@michellebaker6302 I disagree. You see, I had her at a Naval Hospital. A lot gets past them.
The Dunning-Kruger effect is strong with this one. She's got a little bit of information, walks in with her own biases (which we all have, although we don't all have her biases), and comes to very confident, very negative, and very wrong conclusions.
Thank you, MDJ, for reacting to this, sharing what was likely missed in the communication to this patient, and especially the true information on GBS!
This is her thing. She spreads lies misinformation and fear for money.
There’s also quite a bit of self-fulfilling prophecy going on here, like a very misinformed Moses on Mt. Stupid
She was pushing z packs as the cure all for covid. 🤦♀️ like prophylactic and treatment. And refuses to get vaccinated.
@@pippadawg7037 who lied?
@@pippadawg7037 🤣 Believing anything Candace says just confirms you believe right wing propaganda.
I don't know whats more frustrating, Knowing there are people who eat up her stupidity with no question or just her in general for being so proud of being so ignorant. And how does she not hear herself? Her and her viewers are happy to cry out for the safety of the children except when it has anything to do with actual child safety. I was GBS+ and when my midwives mentioned the possibility of sepsis or meningitis there was absolutely NO chance I would skip the antibiotics or observation time. Sending so much love to the mamas and loved ones here who have known such a loss.
Not everyone eats up her stupidity with no question. Although I agree with many of her opinions, I won’t just take in everything she says without proof or finding the proof myself of she didn’t give any.
Thanks for the content, I had no idea that the reason I needed antibiotics for my 3rd kid because of gbs was so serious. I knew she was only alive because of modern medicine already, but this adds to it. She’s a healthy 9 year old girl today, just loved by everyone. 😊
We lost our first baby due to GBS. He spent 13 days in NICU before we had to say goodbye. We don't routinely screen for it here in NZ (although I know some midwives do), but after my experience, I wish that it was. I am horrified that she is spreading such inaccurate information. Thanks so much for your insight Mama Doctor Jones.
I’m so sorry for your loss. ♥️ screening is so variable here. That being said, we still do urine cultures in first trimester (when she tested pos), so she actually would have even been recommended antibiotics here.
@@MamaDoctorJones you should make a video explaining how thousands of children are born from illegals who are crossing the border who have no medical assistance or people in third world countries who give birth in places where there's no hospital nearby at all never tested for GBS yet when this black woman who you politically disagree with seems to care you have to shame her because you're saying it's disinformation? Well what is the information about what I just said so many babies are born without GBS testing and yet they're still here and those people come into this country illegally and they have the traces that can get others sick I mean your information later enjoy deleting my comment
oh my god. have you you ever heard of punctuation? No reason to delete that word salad, it’s incomprehensible as it is.
@@kingofgotham417 a lot of those babies would end up dead because of being born in the situation where there is no medical care. To say that some survive is to miss the point. You can't see the ones who died so you haven't included them in your reasoning.
@@kingofgotham417 Wait, so you said that undocumented immigrants have no medical care and are just fine/have healthy babies, but then you went on to say that they are somehow bringing in “traces” of something harmful?
Do you honestly think that infant mortality rates are the same in developing nations and the United States or are you just letting your own political bias inform this discussion?
I’ll let my political beliefs inform a guess here: you’re a “greatest country in the world” person who cannot fathom why people would want to immigrate to America or do anything they can to attempt to give their families a better life. Simple logic dictates that you cannot have it both ways.
[I know not to feed trolls, but sometimes I can’t resist highlighting the hypocrisy.]
Candace seemed determined to take everything that happened the wrong way. It is entirely possible that the staff handled things appropriately but Candace wasn’t listening and didn’t hear what was being said.
I completely agree. Her story screams of someone who wasn't willing to listen to facts or reason under any circumstances. I'd bet a million dollars that she conveniently missed out the important, medical points her doctors were making to her because she realised those parts would make her look like an irresponsible mother.
And conservatives say the rest of us have victim mentalities or are ❄️. Endlessly weird
So.... Textbook Candace Owens.
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That’s the greatest explanation of Candace. She’s always taking things or understanding things the wrong way it takes one single piece of info and runs with it. People think she’s so smart and well spoken but to me she’s really not. And I agree with some stuff she says but most stuff she says…. She’s got the the completely wrong take on it and she tends to spread to misinformation a lot. She’s kinda like a Facebook mom who takes one post on Facebook for fact and starts a rant about it.
I have a friend who lost her first baby due to GBS. It was devastating.
Babies have died due to strep. It was once thought to be hospital aquired infection. My dad was born at home because several of my grandmother's friends lost their babies to strep. Candace is mot a doctor. She is giving medical advice. She is not qualified to give medical advice.
I almost died of GBS when I was born. It was the 90s, so testing was available, but my mom tested negative. I got pneumonia, I was septic. There were major concerns about how quickly the infection could develop into meningitis. *To this day* over 2 decades later, my parents still cry when talking about being told that I had a 50/50 chance of making it through that first night, seeing me in an incubator, and the weeks that I spent in the hospital. I am so lucky, and so thankful to nurse who saw the signs and to the NICU team, that I am alive don’t have any disabilities related to the infection. I have had more respiratory issues than most people my age, but it could have been so, so much worse. That is not zero harm.
I'm glad you made it
I'm glad you had responsible parents who loved you. It's a shame it seems like her baby has an irresponsible mother.
That was me in 1983 - blood transfusions and resuscitation was needed to save me plus a month in the hospital in an incubator… I had posted a comment on Candace’s video when it came out. It was appalling.
I’m crying just reading this!!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Next tell us about your eating disorder
My daughter almost died 25 years ago because GBS. She was in the NICU for 10 days. I wasn't tested. They didn't test back then, and I didn't know about it. I definitely recommend getting tested.
Sorry for you loss.
@@marieber she said almost died
I’m so sorry for your loss
I went through this too. However, its a hospital not a hotel. You kind of expect to not get the best rest but to make sure you and the baby are as healthy as possible before everyone goes home. I will always be thankful to the team that got my little one here safely ❤❤❤
As a night LDRP nurse we work very hard to keep the unit as quiet and your room as uninterrupted as possible. We cluster care and try to limit disturbances. We do not get a cent for the call bells we answer or times we go in a room. Thank you MDJ for supporting nurses and acknowledging our staffing shortages.
I saw GBS = 0 risk, and was like a hell nah. As a NICU nurse, I've seen how horrible it can be in a baby. I haven't clicked on a video faster lol
I was asked a very long time before the pandemic if I wanted to volunteer for a neonatal professional hugger for skin and tactile contacts for premies... in the neonatal icu... due to may rather large bossum which would be a perfct support platform for the little babies so they can have human contact which greatly improves healthy outs and survival rates in premies... and i tend to make people comfortable just with my presence... I wonder if they still allow people to volunteer for that... what do you think?
Thank you for being a NICU nurse. My daughter was in the NICU when she was born and y’all are amazing people.
At 19 I didn’t know what GBS was. I gave birth to my son who died in 2 days. I am still dealing with mental anguish. I blame my self and I don’t think that will ever change. I will always 2nd guess my decisions during the pregnancy. This was heart breaking to hear and to know this ignorance is being spread. My child was diagnosed with sepsis, he was intubated due to breathing difficulties, feeding tubes were needed because he couldn’t eat. I hate that I even watched Candace’s video because it’s broke my heart all over again
Thank you for being a NICU nurse, you’re an angel. I’m a NICU mom of 2 babies.
As a NICU baby myself, thank you for all that you do. I was 1lb 14oz when I was born and I wouldn’t be here without nurses like you 💕
As a postpartum nurse, we get yelled at for checking the patient too much and get yelled at for not checking on them often. Literally can’t win. This woman sounds like the worst patient. Thank you mama doctor Jones for standing up for us postpartum nurses
Having just one patient like this can ruin a career
The first night every 2 to 3 hours I'd been in labour since 5:30am and gave birth at 9:08pm. It was a little frustrating but they somehow had great timing. I'd just lay down they knock and then I'd have 2 to 3 hours between them and feeding bubs again.
Night 2 they were short staffed so we only got checked on twice and when I called to grab my expressed milk.
Your jobs are incredible and I'm so sorry you are treated like that. I LOVED MY TEAM. I wish I could go back and thank them unto two were students and the school years almost over so their placement more then likely is. But they are going to be amazing midwives.
Honestly would love to be a midwife BUT the thought of delivering a stillborn or a baby passing. Or a mother or both.
Or drug addicted parents.
Domestic violence you can't prove but know is happening.
But wow does the job just sound so rewarding to know I could be to somewhat what my team was too me.
In the postpartum room, my baby started scrunching up her face and turning red and her eyes looked swollen and my husband was terrified that she was allergic to something so we buzzed in the nurse who came super quick and as she entered the room, baby let out a wail, farted, and then went back to sleep and her face returned to normal. I looked at the nurse and just said “I’m so sorry, nevermind.” I was so embarrassed but the nurse was so gracious and understanding. You all deserve awards and are truly superheroes. Thank you for everything!
totally
I can only imagine what a self-righteous, ill-informed patient she would have been and how unwilling she might have been to hear the correct medical information provided.
My son had group B sepsis- he was a c section baby due to heart rate dropping to 50!!! I was shocked that she said this! This is beyond dangerous. We have raised awareness for 20 years as I know my son survived is a miracle!
My son sepsis was so bad he even needed dopamine because he couldn’t sustain his own blood pressure. Thank you for speaking up!!!
Thank you for this info.. I had no idea this could happen via cesarean section. I guess I thought the bacteria is in the birth canal. Thank God your son is okay.
My daughter was in ICU because of strep B too. Thank God she survived. #Miracles
Are we just gonna breeze by her (Candice) insinuating that the Vitamin K shot is dangerous?!????
Have you read the insert?
My niece was not tested she lost her first baby to GBS watching how she suffered heartbreaking she was 11 days when she passed away. I couldn’t imagine how a mother would want to risk giving misleading information, knowing the heartbreaking consequences. Truly disgusting.
For a pro life'r Candes seems pretty upset with the process of giving birth...
@@supreme5580she is a pro life? Well then she should not have had the opportunity to decline the antibiotics, since unborn babies lives are so much more importantly than mothers needs.....
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What was truly disturbing that this woman was anti the whole testing for her own reasons and with no care at all for her own child.
@@mariapaulagl you got way too many brain cells for her, why don't you give some away to others in need? independent thinker.
I was one of the moms who laboured too quickly and didn’t get a full course of antibiotics for GBS. My waters were full of meconium as well, and our nurses kept telling us that her laboured breathing was normal. When my daughter wouldn’t wake for feeds at 8 hours old, we had to fight for the paediatrician to look at her, and it turns out she had aspirated, needed CPAP, and thankfully never ended up with any infection. We had all of these factors involved and our nurses weren’t taking things seriously enough. When somebody had all of the proper interventions to keep their new baby safe and healthy, and complains about it is infuriating.
Thank you for addressing all of her misinformation, her video is absolutely shameful.
I'm so glad your baby didn't get an infection! I remember feeling so scared when my little one had to get tested for infections after being hospitalized, and that was scary enough on its own.
I am so glad everything turned out okay for you!
OMG! In Barbados, once we see meconium, Meconium Aspiration Syndrome is at the top of out list. That babe goes to NICU for treatment immediately.
as a big brother for my little sister who had aspirated meconium that infuriated me she is an amazing young not know but the fact that if they ignored my mom about that makes me so mad I cannot even believe how sad it be if I lost her I hope that your child is growing well and are happy and healthy :)
I had to look up what meconium was (never had kids). And learned what MAS (Meconium Aspiration Syndrome) is. I’m so glad your child is okay, though pissed that you had to rattle some heads to get treatment.
I have had five babies and I had GBS with my first two pregnancies. I remember with my 2nd pregnancy my ob/gyn (an absolutely amazing doctor and person. God rest his soul!) told me a story about when GBS was first discovered back in the 70s or maybe early 80s. He said there was a baby boy that was born that weighed 9lbs and was perfectly healthy. But, over the next 24 hours after he was born, his health started to deteriorate rabidly and the doctors couldn't figure out why. That baby ended up dying. They discovered that the mother had GBS and that was one of the cases that helped medical professionals discover GBS and how it can affect newborn babies. I'm so glad that I had my babies during a time when GBS had already been discovered, researched and tests and treatments had been developed so that my babies were at a much lower risk of getting sick, developing serious problems or even dying because of it! As a mother, I will do whatever I can to protect my children from anything! There's no way that I would take the risk of my child getting seriously ill or even dying if there was something available to help prevent that from happening!
I was tested strep B positive during pregnancy. I was administered IV antibiotics during labour but because the labour was really quick it didn't give enough time for the antibiotic to kick in. The baby developed fever and strep B was found in my daughters ears. She was put into profilatic antibiotic. Hopefully she didn't develop symptoms and we went home a week later
As someone who works in appointment coordination and at the front desk of a hematology clinic, I can tell a large reason why we don't like to "just do these things later with a pediatrician" is because a lot of parents dont follow up properly with it. Missed appointments for time sensitive things happen all the time, even when we've made a large effort to cordinate everything together - people will just not show up and not say a word about why. There's a great level of anxiety to get everything done at once so we KNOW it's going to get done.
This was my first thought, as well. If she's so annoyed about the inconvenience of the tests being done while she literally lays in the hospital bed, requiring zero additional effort, it's not exactly a leap for her care team to be worried that she wouldn't actually schedule the tests with her pediatrician...not to mention that she may still need to establish a relationship with a peds office and some of the labs may require yet another trip to a standalone lab or possibily a trip to an outpatient clinic at the hospital if the peds office can't draw them in house. More trips, more co-pays/co-insurance...and even if the risk of the things being tested for is "practically zero," the risk that she never gets the baby tested after leaving the hospital is sounding very much higher than zero based on how she was flipping out about basic standard of care stuff.
We had parents who no showed twice and rescheduled once their babies cardiology appointment and come to find out she had a severe congenital heart defect that required emergency intervention but she lives in a fantasy world that everyone always goes to their appointments
The whole complaint about the 48 hours thing got me. I had a newborn who was 10 days old. Born completely healthy and was totally fine, eating well, gaining weight, literally everything PERFECT. One day I noticed her feeling a bit warm. Took her temp and it was 99 F. And she was fussy instead of her normal content self. Those were her ONLY symptoms. But something told me in my gut to go ahead and take her to the ER. Drove 30 minutes down the road to the nearest ER and was taken back immediately. Her Temp was then 101. So they stuck her in an ambulance and rushed her to the nearest children's hospital which was another 30 minute trip. Got in and her temp was 103 and her vitals were a mess. And everything went crazy after that. Within hours despite intervention she went septic, her brain lining swelled, she started having seizures, her blood stopped coagulating, a temp of 107, ECT. In LESS than 12 hours my Baby went from 100% completely healthy, happy and fine to septic and fighting for her life. With newborns things can go from totally fine to horrible EXTREMELY fast! This is why they want to keep babies for observation sometimes. So that they catch things in time. My baby didn't have GBS, she had an extremely rare virus and was the first patient at that hospital to ever have it. Because they were able to get medical intervention in time, she lived. She is now 8 and has no effects of the disease because I was able to notice in time, there was no waiting at the ER, an ambulance was all ready to go, the doctors made the smart split second decision to hurry and just go ahead and send her to a children's hospital instead of trying to treat her there first. Among other things that all worked perfectly together at just the right time to help save her life in time. Things do NOT always go as smooth and perfectly as it did in my case which can make it be too late. So if a baby is ALREADY at a hospital and can get treatment asap with no driving to the hospital, waiting, being admitted etc. Etc. That is BEST! The observation is insure your baby, if needed, get the best care as soon as possible in order to raise the chances of your baby surviving and having the least amount of effects from the illness as possible.
I’m glad you acted so quick! I’m happy for you and your kid!
@@madamemelone4947 thank you ❤️
I’m so glad your baby was okay ❤
@@himomimfamous Thank you! ❤️
People that talk about how women had babies at home for centuries before hospitals and were fine are misinformed. Women and babies weren't fine. Both the mother and baby had high mortality rates, and still do (though the odds have massively improved with modern medicine). Giving birth may be natural, but not everything that is natural is safe.
Even now there is a serious risk of complications, lifelong illness or disability, and death for both mother and baby. I know several women who were very lucky to be in a hospital when they gave birth due to complications. Emergency C-sections, excessive bleeding, cerebral palsy (due to lack of oxygen to baby during birth), and stroke are just some of the things that have happened to women, or their babies that I know personally.
I try not to argue too much with women who feel that hospitals are "more dangerous" to mother and baby than giving birth at home; that an ambulance is only minutes away (that's not always true). They can be fanatical about home birth, but I try to encourage having an alternative plan just in case. Nothing works out perfectly wherever or how prepared you are, but there are ways to increase odds in your favour.
She didn't say everybody has it. She said her office said that.
Having seen several of Candace’s videos I can say with confidence that she is a mega Karen. She has put people on blast for what seems to the rest of the world to be minor things. When I first saw her video I questioned her narrative about what actually happened.
Same. She’s been shown to exaggerate and even lie all the time.
She's wears a Karen shirt. You aren't hurting her.
Honestly, I would not be surprised if the staff did communicate those matters to her (e.g. “She is trying to make it over here as soon as possible - she is finishing up with other patients”). I worked in retail for 15 years, and most times I spoke with a customer after another employee had, I’d explain the “why” and the customer would interrupt with, “Yeah, they already told me that! But this is ridiculous!” Reasonable explanations don’t matter to some people, so they are ignored and/or forgotten.
A woman at a movie theater tried to make me allow her 11 year old into a rated-R movie alone because SHE said it was okay & had to meet a friend. During her third “request,” she started yelling at me. I told her, “Ma’am, not only could I lose my job, but this theater could be shut down permanently.” She continued to act baffled and asked me AGAIN. So I defaulted to a simple sorry & no. Then she asked me, “What am I supposed to do then??” I didn’t respond to that one. 🤐
I agree. I honestly feel she’s embellishing a lot of the story to fit the narrative she wants. I can admit hospital interruptions are pretty annoying (can’t speak from a childbirth perspective, but I did was in for surgery and would be woken up for vitals), but it’s for your best benefit.
@@8OH3_ Candace Owens lies like she breathes. She is almost always disingenuous in her videos. She will say almost anything to cater to her paranoid, conspiracy theorist loving audience.
I have a comment about the movie thing. For an underage child to see an R rated movie the parents of each child seeing the movie had to be present to sign a consent form stating that they allow the child to see the movie! Not sure how it works else where though!
i fully agree with this statement. She was also sleep deprived and angry/frustrated. Most people will not comprehend many of the things being said to them in times like that.
@@neiser5423 Excellent point.
I’m furious because as a black woman I get treated so ridiculous in a medical setting. She is making a fool out of us on a public platform. I lost my 2nd baby girl on march 13th 2021 of SIDS and I’m so grateful for the staff at her birth and after. This is a joke to her and she needs to do more research before she goes out in public ranting ignorantly
I'm so so sorry for your loss.
I’m so sorry for your loss❤
@@marialindbergh3926 thank you
What can you expect from a Fox News/Trump Zombie???
I’m sorry that happened. That’s awful. For what it’s worth, I feel like her actions are more of a reflection on the elites of the world, the people who have all they need and choose to act put upon anyway. I don’t doubt she’s faced crap just from being a black woman in this country but in this case she’s complaining about a hospital giving her and her baby too much care! Imagine complaining that they’re taking such pains to make sure her baby is well and healthy. All that testing is the price of refusing the preventive treatment.
My son was born 8weeks early and it was absolutely critical for him to be on antibiotics from birth.
We found GBS when i came in with the ambulance. I’m so glad i hesitated slightly with my no, when asked if i had felt symptoms of a UTI. (I had only felt a little pain once and i was rush tested and put on an antibiotic course before birth)
I was told with premies they must assume the worst and do preventative treatment as it will likely be too late if they wait for symptoms or test results 😱
It gives me the shivers to think of what could have happened, if i had just brushed off that brief UTI symptom 😨
SCREENING FOR HEARING IS GOOD. I have two boys with hearing aids and it was caught in the hospital. It has absolutely helped them speak and hear nearly normally. And they do fit them with hearing aids as a little baby.
I gave birth in the same hospital she did and it was like LUXURY maternity rooms! It was amazing there. After hearing her story i was very unhappy with her representation of that hospital. I listened carefully and everything they did sounded reasonable and justified but she has obviously no understanding of what being in a hospital is really like. They are mandated to check on patients at regular intervals for one thing... its for patient safety. There is nothing worse than being helpless in a room for hours and not being checked on! Give those nurses a raise for doing thier jobs! Its bad when they dont. That hospital was MUCH better than the one who let me lie in my urine the entire night crying and ignoring my pages.
Honestly, there's a happy medium between these two extremes. Neither works for me.
@@stevenlambart5066 Have you ever gotten a detailed bill? There is no billing code for knocking on your door. However, if you are disturbed by the nickel and diming of the healthcare industry, what are your thoughts on universal healthcare.
🐑 that's so wrong
They did NOT have to check her that many times and mom resting is vital to her milk coming in, baby latching and eating well. No they do not have to check you like that.
They do have to check, but do they have to do it so often? Surely it makes sense to combine jobs so you're not disturbing them as much. Like if mum needs her obs doing at 2:15 and the baby at 2:45, why not do the baby's obs straight after mum. It's a little early, but it minimises disruption.
This is enraging. My oldest daughter was infected with GBS and spent 8 days in the NICU on two different IV antibiotics. I am so grateful that she survived!
I’m so glad she survived!
@@MaidMirawyn thank you!
Did you get the antibiotics during your labor? I'm positive, and just curious if there can still be negative outcomes even with the I've drugs. Glad you and baby are ok.
@TaraMae Stephens I did get antibiotics during labor, but unfortunately, my daughter was one of the rare cases where the virus passed through intact membranes. The NICU doctor told us that it seemed like she had gotten sick a day or two before she was born. The stress caused her to pass meconium, and she did aspirate a little bit. But the good news is that she got prompt treatment and made a full recovery! She was on two different IV antibiotics and needed oxygen, but fortunately, she never had to be intubated. This all happened in 2002, and now my baby girl is going to turn 21! She is very smart and has enjoyed good health for the most part. Best of luck to you and your baby. In most cases, the antibiotics in labor prevent any problems. I went on to have 3 more babies who were all born healthy.
I’m so confused. I had my daughter almost 2 years ago. She was born at 8pm, and the only person who interrupted my sleep that night was my daughter! The next day, I had a bunch of people come in to check on me/sell me photos and stuff, but that was it…
My mom and I BOTH almost died in childbirth in 1992 and later the docs told her it’s because she was positive for GBS & they didn’t even give her the option to treat it back then 😞🙈
Candace makes it seem like it was miscommunication but all we are getting is her side of what happened. She seems like the type of person that is told something in detail but latches on to one thing and ignores all the rest, rages about the one thing she latched onto, and completely forgets about or negates everything else she was informed about.
I was thinking the exact same thing.
Yep that was the feeling I got. While I greatly appreciate MDJs approach of taking it as an opportunity to discuss how good communication between healthcare providers and their patients is so incredibly important I am hesitant to believe that this was because of poor communication.
Given the way that she retells the events get the sense that she's not being entirely honest or accurate with how things happened. And that really shows when she was talking about Tennessee law requiring blood work. But she acted like the nurses were accusing her of abuse or we're going to send the cops after her. I guarantee you she's not the first and she's not going to be the last to refuse that test. I'm sure they've had to explain that to plenty of patients before her.
Definitely more misinterpretation than poor communication, but this isn't surprising postpartum. Between the extreme exhaustion, flaring hormones, and raging mama bear, the brain is not very capable of objectively interpreting situations or information right after childbirth.
When my son was born I remember being LIVID that they gave him his bath in the nursery instead of in our room. Objectively not a big deal, but to my postpartum brain, they were malicious child abductors! Unfortunately Candace hasn't been able to step back after the fact and reevaluate her experience calmly.
100% felt that, I also think she is the kind of person to try to upset the person informing her and rile others demons to get a shitty response or treatment.
You sound as though you are not too familiar with Candace Owens, but that is a spot on description of the kind of person she is.
THANK YOU for this! I worked OB for 6 years, today (TODAY!) my pregnant sister started talking about refusing antibiotics for GBS, and I was floored! It was because she loves this woman. She believed every single word. I told her the studies, information, etc and then I found your video to send to her. Thankfully, she now agrees she should take the antibiotics. Also, calling out your over worked, underpaid, under-staffed, healthcare professionals in the middle of a pandemic who are doing everything to keep you and your baby safe is infuriating. It's disgusting. Good lord.
That's my thinking. Should they have done better? Probably. *Could* they have done better? Probably not.
@@16poetisa I definitely agree there was some miscommunication between the staff and Candice, but yes, could they have done better? No. They're understaffed with too many patients, she was not the only pregnant woman delivering and if she wanted a private birth, she should have used her $$ to do so! Hospitals are overrun in every single area and I feel awful for any pregnant woman who takes Candice's horrible advice. Huge platforms need to do better.
@@bay5854 You have to remember that this is just Candace's side of the story. Just because she said it happened the way she describes, doesn't make it true. The woman gets paid to lie.
That’s horrible that people would actually listen to clueless celebrities like this instead of qualified professionals… no logic!
@@MyDuckSaysFucc Exactly! Medical training and education exist for a reason. To have my own sister fall into the celeb bs was really shocking. We come from a family of doctors, nurses, and PAs! Just grateful she values my education, views, and this video from Dr.Jones sealed the deal, enough to make the informed correct decision for her baby.
Candace is just an entitled egoist. It doesn't matter what the truth is or what the various job responsibilities of the hospital staff are.
My little sister died of this and my mom never tested positive… I hate this woman and the worst part is my in laws sent me that Candace owens video when I was pregnant with my baby
I am having difficulty finding my words here. My eyeballs are rolling so hard they may fly out of my head at any time.
As an LDRP nurse I am furious for so many reasons. My colleagues and I try to concentrate care to allow moms and babies rest and bonding time. I suspect her “knock knock” stories are exaggerated based on her exhaustion and victim mentality, but if not, yeah, interventions should be done together and minimized. We typically do most of the screening tests around 24 hours in the nursery, and give the parents the option to come and be present or to stay on their room and rest.
I understand the sweet idea that women have given birth for millennia without medical interventions and that our bodies are made to bear children. But you know what else happened for millennia? Mothers and babies DIED not infrequently.
Given the reputation of some of Ms. Owens’ followers, I am disgusted and frightened by her mentioning her caregiver’s names.
I’ll stop now because I’m at risk of more rambling than I’ve already done.
Just be aware that a seriously ill newborn is the most heartbreaking thing you’ll ever see. I don’t care if it’s rare, if it’s your baby or my patient, rolling the dice and hoping for the best isn’t good enough.
You're scared because of her followers? Thank goodness that they are Christian and conservative! If she had psycho followers in the left, they'd burn down the hospital! We all have literally seen that happen across the country from psychotic leftists all over America! Trust me you don't have to worry about her followers! Lol! 😂
I don’t think she’s exaggerating. My experience was also lots of interruptions, but I had a C section so I was stuck without sleep for 4 days. I wouldn’t be surprised if the extreme exhaustion from lack of sleep contributed to her stubbornness.
You eyeballs!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
You're wonderful 👍
I feel for her nurses and doctors. Can you even imagine how much of a Karen she was? Damn, girl, they are just trying to keep you and your kid alive and healthy. She's proof that people who have the least to say, say the most.
She was probably whining the whole damn time 🙄🙄🙄
right? and you know if you're that desperate for sleep, you can always send the kid to the nursery for the night. that's what i did with my oldest - i was literally too tired to hold her so i called the nurses and said "please take her to the nursery so i can get some sleep," and they did. if they checked my vitals during the night i didn't notice because i was out that hard.
@@dietotaku Most hospitals don’t have nurseries anymore
NIGHTMARE patient
@@dietotaku I did that with my youngest. I could not sleep because of my anxiety for my baby so I asked if she could go to the nursery. Gave me more peace of mind that she was being watched while I slept.
I tested positive for GBS and I was informed by my doctor that I should let the medical staff know in case she wasn’t present when I went into labor. I didn’t know it was a test that everyone didn’t get or were not aware of. All we can do is spread awareness to help make an impact in saving these precious babies.
I can't believe this doesn't show up on the file. My long term foster son got sick because his bio Mum forgot to mention she had tested positive for GBS. Luckily he made it, I don't know any details because he was alone in the hospital
As a Student Nurse who is training in a country that has free healthcare, I can say that everytime we check on you is not because we can bill you especially on the labor, antenatal and postnatal ward. We follow protocol and evidenced based practices. Everything Candace spoke about are policies, laws and time sensitive tests we follow. See needed to do further research into nursing care and the running of the ward as well as the roles of each person on the health care team.
While I get your response, let's not forget that this is a person capable of shaming literally anyone else (especially people belonging to marginalised or minority groups) for feelings of entitlement or behavior that supposedly shows entitlement to whatever it is and tell them that they are the problem, and need to change their attitude for being selfish and rude.
And whether that's the result of a group of adults telling her to be like that is unclear with this video, but true for most of the others, since all DailyWire hosts are told what to hate and shame next.
Candace thinking the nurse is the one who decides the rules tells me all I need to know about her.
That blood test saved my son. He suffered from very thick blood due to TTTS in the womb. If they didnt intervene, he could have had heart issues. He is now 9. Him and his brother are healthy, smart, and happy as can be.
So glad to hear he's doing well 💪
I can at least sympathize with her frustration. In my experience most healthcare workers are not as compassionate or helpful as Mama Dr. Jones. They are more likely to be dismissive and arrogant. I'm sure the reason for that is because they are overworked and underpaid, burned-out, and have to deal with the general public everyday (which takes a special kind of patience). The combination of overworked medical staff, and sleep deprived/ill patients often leads to combative interactions. Universal health care does not resolve these issues either. As someone who lives in a country with universal healthcare, I've had similar interactions with the healthcare system. Sometimes just asking the doctor questions gets you a tense defensive response.
Isn't she the person who talked about the "benefits of slavery" for the slaves? Brilliant.
disinformation bot much?
It’s is so telling that Candice can’t fathom why people would pass laws aimed at protecting children. She cannot begin to comprehend that some people ACTUALLY DO CARE ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE’S HEALTH AND SAFETY.
And she calls herself pro-life. Yet isn't willing to put up with some inconvenience to make sure her baby is as healthy and safe as possible?
100% this
"I don't think the government loves my child enough to pass this law..." yet she supports laws "protecting" kids from being exposed to LGBTQ identities? The hypocrisy is infuriating. Thank you MDJ for bringing up socialized medicine in response to her accusations about hospital profits. I'd love to hear her reply
Absolutely. She sees a child as property that she owns so no one should be able to tell her how to take care of them.
@@MK-ls3bu I have seen conservative people say that allowing a child to change their gender identity (non medically) is an abuse worse than physical abuse. Tells you all you need to know about what kind of people they are.
Gender dysphoria is a severe mental health issue and it’s a tragedy that it has become a political debate… so many straw man arguments and not enough science on what is actually happening and how to help these individuals.
Regarding her complaints about the pediatrician not checking them out sooner and the lack of communication with the team, when I had my daughter, the pediatrician stopped by our room to check, then stepped out of the room and came back to apologize and say he will come back later because he had to help with a baby that had a very bad case of RSV. I didn’t realize it at the time but after seeing this I really appreciate that he went out of his way to inform me why he was going to be late.
fr it’s all about hipaa unfortunately i bet the grown woman with a broken bone was mad when they chose to transport me (7 year old 27 lbs untreated ongoing crohns disease needs emergency surgery asap) via life flight helicopter and not her like if only they knew. there’s always a reason for everything who are you attending to first someone who needs a bandaid or someone who needs their insides sorted
she's complaining about people doing their jobs and making sure she and her baby are safe and healthy. that's so absurd to me
Thank you for reacting to that video. I watched Candace's video shortly after it posted, and was disturbed by it and her viewer's comments. Being a L&D nurse, I agree with everything you've stated, but I think she may have misinterpreted or exaggerated the healthcare team's communication and attitudes. I saw in her comments that many women had been influenced to have home births, so I tried to explain rationale, but was countered with criticism. I see many sad stories in your comments, and I feel so sorry for them. Their suffering and heartache may have been avoided. Your information can help a lot of people, and save lives. Thank you!
Awesome video. As someone living in Africa, the GBS test and antibiotics are an unsigned rule. My ob-gyn is very proud of the fact that she has never lost a baby to GBS.
That is an accomplishment!! Props to that OBGYN
Oh, that's wonderful! Which country, may I ask?
@@cindy846 South Africa
@@christa2373 Wow, amazing!! I love South Africa, went only once but really will need to go back eventually!!! ☺️
As a mom who tested positive for GBS, I took the antibiotics and have a beautiful healthy baby girl. I was tested at 36 weeks and I trusted my midwives whole heartily because while I was a first time mom, they had successfully brought many babies safely into this world ❤️
Candance's child is healthy. So what is you point?
That she took a risk knowing she tested positive and didn’t trust her health care providers…?
@@melfinn1978 that she got lucky, but she easily could have not and that internet research is not a substitute for substantial medical training.
@@melfinn1978 she was freaking lucky.
@@melfinn1978 She gambled her child's life because being stubborn over an antibiotic was more important to her than her daughter's health and wellbeing.
How is it irresponsible that she is simply warning people that this can happen to them? I had no idea that our babies blood was banked until she put this out there. It’s wrong! And we should be told or asked. Does this apply to home births? Home births are a lot different.
My little sister died of GBS in 1983 at age 3 days. So this video felt very personal to me. Thank you so much for speaking out against the misinformation that is being spread.
As a nursing student, the Internet is terrifying. I could be literally just trying to do my job and accidentally mess up by not having the best communication (likely due to what you mentioned with short staffing etc), and end up with my entire image being slandered
And we are bound by HIPAA, so we can't say anything to our defense(CNA here)
It really is. I’m a therapist and some times people get quite upset even over things like a generalist therapist recognizing something is out of our scope and making referrals to a specialist… knock on wood it hasn’t happened to me but I’ve had colleagues get reviews saying they just “randomly discharged” them (when our practice doesn’t even do that… if we refer to a specialist but the client doesn’t want to we just note what we recommend and that the client wants to stay with us for now). Or people saying they were discharged without notice when practice has a clear policy about how many times you can no show in a year and how long if you stop scheduling follow ups before you are considered closed and we call and give reminders in both cases… but it’s not like the practice (or the therapist if it was put on their personal page) can respond and say hey you know that’s not what happened
This woman is lucky that all her visits from the nurses could be viewed as "useless". After having a C-section I was dying for every visit from those nurses because they brought me pain medicine I really needed and would help take care of my baby which I was unable to do myself because of how painful it was to even stand up.
FOR REAL! Let alone underserved hospitals that don’t have enough nurses to check on new moms and babies
Same !
Same here, I couldn't stand up to reach my baby by myself. I could walk once up but my stomach muscles had been severed. It was incredibly painful to just try sitting up in bed to feed my baby.
Interesting. That wasn't my experience at all, either of my c-sections. The first, happening at 21 was of course a whole lot easier to recover from than the second, which happened when I was 33. Everything's so much easier with youth. But even at 33 by my 3rd day in hospital, I was able to slowly walk around the maternal ward, the nurses informed me it was a quarter mile walking the full circuit. I noticed at the time that I was the only mom walking, even the ones who had natural birth weren't walking...but I discovered with our firstborn that the more you move, the better your recovery, and the more still you try to stay the longer and more difficult the recovery. My first C-section, I was only conscious for an hour or so while they closed me up and them moved me to my room, and when I woke up, the nurse had come to fetch her for the PKU test, I got out of bed (this was about 5 hours after the surgery) and slowly walked after her--I caught up just as she was drawing the blood from her tiny foot. I got to walk her back to our room, leaning on the crib/cart. I was told that the more movement I was able to do the better, and that turned out to be extremely true. I also didn't apparently have the best type of nipples for breastfeeding, but I decided it was very important that I breastfeed. I knew of many studies showing better outcomes for a wide variety of things ranging from allergies to IQ. It was worth it.
Now that I'm much older, I've seen the deleterious effects of not exercising. The older we get, the less slack, leeway, margin we have...and it finally settles down to 'if you take to bed, the bed will take you'.
@@LauraForty I meant that was how I was in the first 12 hours. I could walk around, get myself up, and slowly do everything by 24 hours and was ready to be discharged. I stayed an extra 24 hours for breastfeeding support. On day 5 I went for a walk in the park, nearly 2 miles without any issue. I was grateful for the support I got from the nurses, because those first 12 hours were very strenuous. Couldn't move my legs for hours, then was itchy all over. Really struggled with the pain when sitting up in bed. It went well though.
Just wanted to say Dr Jones that I respect you for always providing the evidenced based information and explaining it to the viewers in a way it’s easily understandable to those who are not medically educated.
Her being irate about being charged with a misdemeanor if she didn't let them do the screening on her daughter...well jeeze Candace, how do you think people feel about being charged for getting an abortion or giving their child gender affirming care?
The point is literally hitting her in the face with a haymaker and she's refusing to see it.
I gave birth not long ago and while I didn't love that the nurses and doctors came in so often, I'd like to point out that I also called THEM a lot, with like the stupidest questions or just needing help.
I bet at least once one of our nurses had juuust sat down to eat at 3am and hears that bell that I'm calling her to help me because my baby sneezed or something 😂
Not at hospital but I remember when I had my first and she was suuuper new, she hadn’t pooped all day once and I called her pediatrician panicking. He calmly told me to put a Q tip with Vaseline up her bum. 😂. But she pooped soon after so it was all good. I think he knew. Looking back omg 😂
@@Mama_Bear524
I've never heard of doing that lol
@@MelissaHogwood I have heard of several parents needing to do that. It happens and it's at the direction of a pediatrician.
I once called a nurse because all my support people had left the room, my baby was crying, and I couldn't get out of bed to pick him up because of my fresh c-section. I'm fairly certain she was rolling her eyes after she left the room.
Same. 😅 We had a bit of trouble starting breastfeeding. They helped me a lot. 😅
She’s saying that you’re not allowed to sleep in a hospital after you’ve given birth; no one sleeps in a hospital no matter what they’re there for! Just one extra thing that irked me out of this whole mess
@@TinaMay-rr6xi I kind of had the opposite experience, I was able to sleep (as much as my children let me) after both my babies' births, but after I had parathyroid surgery, I was woken up every hour because I was suffering some side effects and they were checking to see if the symptoms weren't getting more serious. Which is absolutely fine in the long run, thanks to the hospital staff for taking care of me, but not being allowed to sleep after an exhausting ordeal can feel like torture at the time.
I remember people coming into my room after I had given birth too, but they did try not to disturb us if we were sleeping.
@@TinaMay-rr6xi i had two c sections. the second one i was allowed to get a ton of sleep! i would sleep in 3-4 hour spurts and the nurses would tip toe in and change my baby. the hospital also sends a massage therapist in once a day for foot-calf rubs to help reduce swelling. every hospital is different but mine rocked!
Being in a hospital is just [wildly gesticulating] I couldn't sleep, not even xanax could knock me out.
Exactly, I've been hospitalized before and there was no sleeping, maybe resting with my eyes closed but it wasn't a full on sleep. The constant beeping of the machines, voices in the hallway from people walking down them, etc. There's no sleeping. Plus I had someone coming in every 4 hours to take my blood.
After I had my thyroid out I got about 4 hours of sleep, because I needed help to get up to go to the bathroom, my iv finished, my blood pressure was needed, etc.
I swear you can't sleep in the hospital no matter what
If CO was so upset with the hospital interruptions she must have been REALLY livid when she realized you have to feed an infant every 2 hours.
I just found your videos. I am so in love with your background. I love that baby in the womb light. It’s so cool and so creative!
I had my fourth baby in March. I was group B strep positive for the first time. It was also found earlier from a urine sample because I had a UTI in early second trimester. I’m allergic to penicillin. With my previous deliveries I had 24 hour discharges. I asked so many questions of my midwives and did research. I knew I would have a longer stay this time. Was I disappointed? Yes! Did I sleep terribly at the hospital? Yes! Did I feel this level of anger and hostility? No way! I can’t figure it out! Why is she this angry? Didn’t she know going into this that the baby would be monitored closely? Isn’t this her second child? Doesn’t she know you don’t sleep at a hospital ?? I just can’t figure out why she is this angry.
More than likely because some women think that being positive for group b strep means some sort of commentary on their personal morals.
@@orbitalchild how’s that? I don’t understand. Clearly I must not know what GBS is “commonly” referred to by or how it shows up in your system. Regardless, one would think the health of the baby should be the number one point of interest.
Candace Owens is always angry, belligerent, and entitled. That's her jam.
I don't know anything else about her other than from this video - but based on her comments here, she leans towards believing conspiracy theories, and sounds anti-vax or anti-vax adjacent, so she's attributing malice and corruption to almost every ordinary action taken by medical team. So she's angry/hostile because she's *convinced* herself that none of it is for her benefit, only harm.
Maybe she’s still sleep deprived cause newborn and it’s making her more irritable. I know not sleeping makes me super grumpy and uncharitable.
As a NICU nurse this video hurts my soul. Having seen newborn babies in septic shock on the brink of death, I can assure you that is a sight nobody wants to ever see their loved one go through. I also agree the communication she got from her healthcare team all the way through her hospital stay was severely lacking. Thank you for making this video MDJ!
Thank you so much for what you do! My baby cousin would not be here if the NICU doctors and nurses 15 years ago hadn't been so awesome at their jobs.
Side note: I've been through sepsis and can't imagine how difficult it is to see a newborn or premie go through it. The fact that nurses see those things and still manage to do what they do is absolutely amazing. Thank you again.
As a NICU baby who wants to be a NICU nurse, thank you for all your help 🤗
@@Ljoyner97 it is truly my privilege and honor to take care of the tiny humans ❤️ I am so sorry to hear that you have been through sepsis - it’s so scary for everyone affected! I hope you’re doing well and I hope your cousin is thriving!
@@malloryoates8580 when you’re applying for NICU jobs and interviewing, definitely bring that up to them!! I wish you the best in achieving your dream ✨
Aa another NICU nurse, I concur with you whole heartedly.
I'm kind of amazed that there's so many women in these comments saying they were okay with all of the interruptions. This is also my biggest beef with staying in a hospital PP. You are literally interrupted every 2 hours.... minimum. And yes, some of those checks could have been compiled into one check. If the mom and baby are doing well within the first few hours, I feel like checking in so often could be reduced. If I'm sleeping, leave my tylenol by the bed. I promise I will WANT to take it upon waking up. Also, it's not just mom and baby they're disturbing. It's dad too. And if I need anyone to be rested to help me out AFTER I leave the hospital, its my husband. Not settling up couples for success...
Loved my nursing staff at both of my births. Loved them to death. But I also asked them to please let us sleep multiple times and there was no mercy...lol
I’m 15 mins in - thank you for informing and raking through misinformation!!
Was a "Karen" at the hospital. Endangered the life of her child. And is now telling everyone of her entitlement and complete disregard for all of the people who helped her deliver her child. The poor nurses who had to put up with this nightmare of a woman. SMH. It sounds like they were checking her every few hours which is honestly not bad. Trying to flag down a nurse at my local hospital because they're so freaking overworked and understaffed is a nightmare I hope she never has to endure. This makes me pretty angry tbh.
In the full podcast she thinks it’s because the color of her skin and she doesn’t understand that your race can give you more of a risk factor for certain diseases and conditions (just like with gestational diabetes and hypertension for example)
@@summerviator5966 frustrating thing is she's not entirely inaccurate. Black women are unfortunately treated the absolute worst in medicine. They are believed the least and overlooked the most.
However she is taking things that were non-issues or were issues entirely of her own making and is claiming it's because of racial bias in medicine. Racial bias does exist in medicine. But nothing she has said here seems to be a result of racial bias.
@@orbitalchild not really try wearing a hijab 🧕🏼 and have a life threatening medical emergency …
I'm certain Candice's monolog would be a whole lot different if that baby had had complications of any form and not been tested.
THIS is the comment.
@@tonyz975 So you don't think that a lot of infant mortality is due to women getting misinformation from things like the daily wire?? Like the PROFESSIONAL said, we were a LOT worse off before we realized what caused those deaths and ACTIVELY recommended treatment to people who may be at high risk for pregnancy/birth complications.
I don't think so. She wants to be famous by any means necessary. She is a monster not a mother
@@WaryJesteryes, because the doctors do give lots of misinformation and do cause a lot of complications. Fortunately I had pregnancy books that explained these facts.
Absolutely
Hands down the best video that has emerged on youtube in on over a decade. Thank you Dr. Jones. Please never stop. You're an incredible doctor and an incredible human being.
I am a Family Support Specialist with a home visitation program and can tell you these newborn tests done at the hospital can & have saved babies lives! Not all parents have the ability or desire to take their infant to necessary WCVs (well child visits). I have had parents on my caseload who feel WCVs are not necessary unless their baby is ill. These initial tests and observations are critical and necessary! It infuriates me that people with large platforms spread such disgusting misinformation!
I'm curious her stance on abortion now that she's had this experience with the hospital and medical staff trying to "dictate" what tests she consents to and what medications they feel is necessary.
She is against abortion.