Court must clarify Zuma's remission effects on candidacy matter - Phiri
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- Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
- The Electoral Court released reasons for its ruling that former
president Jacob Zuma can be a candidate for the MK party. IusPrudentia
Specialist Counsel founder Benedict Phiri says the court must clarify
the effects of Zuma's remission on the matter.
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The Judiciary must tell us why are they so obsessed with President Jacob Zuma.
YOU SHOULD ASK YOURSELF WHY IS ZAUMA EMBARKING IN PROBLEMS HIMSELF? WHY DID HE DESTROYED OUR ECONOMY ALONGSIDE THE GUPTAS AND OTHER ALLIES? WHY DID HE OPTED TO CONTEMPT THE COURT INSTEAD OF GOING THERE AND PROVIDE HIS ANSWERS? THE FIRST ANALYST SAID VERY WELL THAT THE ACTION OF CONTEMPT OF COURT WAS AT THE CONCOURT AND HE WAS ALLOWED THE RECESSON APPLICATION THROUGH WHICH HE APPEALED. THESE JUDGES AT THE ELECTORAL COURT ARE JUST BEING BIAS IN FAVOR OF ZUMA.
Because they know that Zuma is powerful, and the Zondo commission is captured they can even change the law to move Zuma out of the way to have 51 % to be a strong ruling party but this year we will have coalition party to produced
The fish is rotten, and the judicial system has now fallen foul to the endemic corruption which rules South Africa.
“One of the mistakes which these political analysts and legal experts make is to think that their enemies should be our enemies as well.”
Not sure where they are talking about enemies. They are intelligent people, not brainless MK supporters
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1Same as Jan van Rreebeick generations
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1the thief of 1652👹
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1Jan van Rreebeick was a thief
@@AndrewMcFarlane_1Jan van Rreebeick is brainless
But the case of President Zuma and FW Botha are almost similar but FW Botha was granted a fine. We thank electoral court for schooling Sisi Kampembe.
ZUMA sentence by CONCOURT was declared by Electoral court as UNCONSTITUTIONAL. There is no sentence without TRIAL and no criminal trial with no appeal in the constitution.
Electoral Court said there is no criminal offense, why continous engagement on the issue.
Exactly you're right what's their problem
Viva Mk , victory is certain
This case is over. What else do you want from JZ.
It's not a big interpretation.
Its simple the Constitutional Court judges are very questionable...
Benedict Phiri don't make useless examples. Zondo took president Zuma straight to ConCourt, had he went to Magistrate/High Court, president Zuma would have appealed.
😂 The Judicial system is confused 😢
J. Z is shaping and shaking those in charge of the legal system.
The electoral court dropped the ball here, with respect…
Vote DA save South Africa 👍
Bad arguments by expert....CC was a court of first instance...which wasn't correct
Absolutely!
Why obsessed with Zuma
Why are you arguing as if you are clairvoyants who know how long the conviction by a lower court would have been, and that the sentence would not have been reduced as it worked its way through the appeals process? Maybe a lower court could have acquitted him since he did not refuse to appear before the commission but objected to Zondo asking him questions. Zondo is the bad apple in this whole saga. What was he hiding he didn't want to defend his refusal to recuse himself from the panel as requested by Zuma, and instead referred Zuma to ConCourt? And why is the same very conflicted Zondo jumping on the case presented by an unqualified party (The IEC) when the electoral court has issued its judgment on the case. The country is already in a deep constitutional crisis because the Apex court is led by a rogue chief justice.
Allow me to share my view on your comment. You shouldn't be emotional when analyzing this situation of ZUMA, which led to the CONCOURT to sentence him for 15 months in prison without possibility to convert into fine. We all watched the work of the Commission on TV and ZUMA simply refused to continue answering questions and turned his back to the then DCJ ZONDO. moving out. Then he refused to appear before the Bunch of Judges of CONCOURT in three occasions and turned thinks worse when came to public domain doing abusive pronouncements against the CONCOURT and its Judges. That was a massive contempt of court. Remember that it was a Commission leaded by the CONCOURT.
When interpreting Section 47, a surface-level reading might appear to favor Jacob Zuma. However, upon deeper consideration, it becomes evident that this section upholds the principle of presumption of innocence until all legal avenues have been exhausted.
Specifically, Section 47 recognizes that individuals remain innocent until they have pursued all available legal remedies. If your right to appeal still exists, you are considered innocent until the time for an appeal has expired. In essence, Section 47 ensures that legal certainty prevails, leaving no doubt about the final judgment once all legal processes have been exhausted. I hope my pinion makes sense.
No it doesn't
The whole section 47 must be scrapped off because it says nothing interpreted into its nature of preventing such criminals to be allowed to sabotage and to put a vulnerable citizens to be abused and used to protect such people who undermine the laws of the world or country like us.
You are 100% spot on, how can a purposive Interpretation to section 47(1)(3) exclude a sentence imposed by the Constitutional Court simply because it is a court of the first and the last instance being highest court in the land…
Judges are tired of being bullied by Zondo....they too know the law they went to school spend their monies and their interpretation when it comes to judgement must be respected. What's the good of use of going to school to study but when time comes in case adjudicating the case someone just because he is your senior you have to dance to his tune,,,,that situation must come to an end,,,,sunday world on the front page says " you cannot open a case against me because i am a judge" this what the to have alledged written it's what Zondo alledged said.....yoooooooo only Sotaflika
You always accuse Zondo as if he is the one telling these judges what they must do ,Zuma is appealing each and every decision taken by the south african courts ,but you expect IEC not to go to the constitutional court to seek for clarity ,nina nicabanga ukuthi lomthetho ngowakwa Zuma,loZuma waqala uku accuser ama judges ngokuthi ayamsukela ,ngalesosikhathi wayengekho uZondo or engathathi ama decisions ,yekelani uZondo enze umsebenzi wakhe ngoba akekho kulama judges kasesithembele kunina ke
ZONDO is a judicial thug
@@nelsonnombo8731 zondo instructed constitutional court judges to impose a sentence on Zuma whilst he wasn't on the bench history has no blank pages......
The only thug we know is Jacob Zuma,you cannot expect judges to dance for Zuma 's nonsense,judge Hlophe lost his job because of Zuma ,nomgcobo Jiba also lost her job because of the same criminal called Jacob Zuma,so these judges must do their job without being intimidated by Zuma and his criminal gang
He refused to go there or to respond to the court ,so you cannot expect constitutional court judges not to puunish the criminal that doesn't respect our courts
Zuma is not stupid, he will not risk to lose his presidency benefit by accepting lower position. This was about getting Zuma on the ballot paper as a face of MK.
So?
Thats why he speaks nothing but 2/3 thats the only thing that can help him now
@@sibusisobrian5038 then you the one who is stupid betting against Msholozi, remember, when point a finger, three more are pointing at you
Exactly. But ZUMA and ALLIES are desperate to fight CR for not protecting them on the State Capture Process. Furthermore, ZUMA is trying to get back to support of the people in order to threat arrests, should the trial be initiated.
Why only JZ in this country
Zuma can never be an Mp if MK doesn't win with 51percent because he is going to lose his life benefits Zuma is not that stupid
Grammar is important.
You are just a bitter liar.
Baleka Mbete was deputy president and went on to be an MP. She kept her DP salary and security for life. She still drives around with dozens of cars.
Kgalema Motlanthe was a 8 months president, he was demoted to MP then deputy president. He kept his presidential salary & security when he was deputy.
What is an election analyst and what must you study to be referred to as one?
Anyone can become one, even a street vendor as long as what you are talking about makes sense. Right.
Is it a coincidence that Zuma appointed Judge Zondi to the Supreme Court of Appeal & then he gives such a generous interpretation of Section 47(1)(e) of the Constitution? One wonders if he would have been asked to recuse himself had he not done that.
Actually has appointed by Thuli Mandonsela
Its a generous interpretation of Section 47(1)(e) of the Constitution if not a ridiculous ruling. The Concourt as the apex court is the final arbiter of constitutional disputes. So this flawed reasoning from the electoral court will just be shot down.
Fact is Zuma after being treated with kids gloves, he refused to oppose the application & when order was unanimously given by the Constitutional Court he boastfully defied it. Given that’s where the contempt happened, the justices could have chosen to play games and send the case down to a lower court but they didn’t maybe because Mr Zuma had already proved in the words of Advocate Tembeka Ngcukaitobi to be ‘recalcitrant, deliberately defiant litigant’. He appealed to the Highcourt to stay his arrest warrant pending his application at the Concourt to rescind his 15-month jail sentence. Both cases were entertained and he lost. In any event a rescission of judgment application is as good or close to an appeal.
If the con court should not have the powers it currently has, then change the law and limit the powers. Playing to the gallery will not alter the law, only parliament and executive can do that.