SAPS responds to five million dockets closure
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- The DA wants SAPS to explain to Parliament why over five million dockets
have been closed since 2018 due to alleged insufficient evidence. This includes 61 000 rape dockets.
Deputy National Commissioner for Crime Detection Lt. Gen Shadrack Sibiya says some of these GBV cases get withdrawn by complainants. He adds that 3 750 cases have been withdrawn in court with the suspects having been arrested.
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This guy is definitely an ANC Cadre.
Why should citizens trust SAPS with our safety then?
Lying to the public must be against the law especially when dealing with such matters!
He must be arrested for lieing this one.
Lies lies lies
Anc really did us dirty
It did a dirty on ANC voters
Happens when a group with no skills, morals & scruples are put in charge.
Their only life philosophy is consumption & nihilism.
Go do the maths ... Dom Doos !!!
5mill is more than the total population of New Zealand....
And you just blindly believe this bullshit !!!
Where are the prisons you gonna lock up these millions if there was enough evidence...you got no fucking clue how many 1mill are...let alone 5mill.
Who must be arrested and charged if there is no evidence?
5 000 000 dockets@@tsekomofokeng182
@@tsekomofokeng182 there is only no evidence cause paarasitic BEE & AA have turned SAPS into a lame asss boy scout 4 specil needs children.
If the cops had brains, vision & drive it would different.
@@tsekomofokeng182 we have AA & BEE 2 thank 4 a sub standard police force.
What about the victims? How heartless is this?
I'm sure an experienced uncorrupt detective is worth their weight in gold!
he is talking nonsense,
Lies lies lies 😤
I have got 3 cases which i was told cases are closed. This one is here to tell lies. What was he doing at senzo's case while being suspended.
Lazy, people speak like this lying guy,how can I open the case suddenly withdraw, it makes no sense
Actually it happens that people can report crime and later with withdraw especially on GBV cases as most women are persuaded by partners to withdraw. In some cases if an individual loses cash or property they can make a report and sometimes the offender will reimburse before prosecution and the complainant no longer has motivation to be a witness. This however does not answer the question being posed to him because the figures of withdrawn dockets are a drop in the ocean compared to the 5 million dockets closed.
Yes.. we want answers.. I love this GNU.. things a
Re coming out. Our police are so corrupt you can't even report a crime because you will be in trouble.
These cops either refuse to investigate or they claim to investigate but don't then call later and tell you they have to close the case because there were no fingerprints taken etc. they seem to allow crime to succeed,they never investigate 😢😢never SAPS is a waste of tax with an ANC man in the ministry
Population ratio v police do not match. Government is failing citizens
Closing a case is as easy as simply an investigator getting angry because you are annoying him when you keep asking for follow ups. There is no superior that audits these closures and brings in investigators to come and answer in an interview on why each case was closed. Its up to the investigator to decide if he is in the mood to investigate, and if he is not in the mood... he does not need to answer to anyone for closing a case.
No motivation from this chap at all. Sounds like ANC cadre.😅😅😅
Yebo baba it's looks like that.
Take it to another level- check who are the magistrates that may b conniving closing most cases in an area.
Find out also why dockets missing
I'm telling you 🤞..it's a whole syndicate..shouldn't these closed cases be referred to cold cases
@@veeranchetty2669 true they close cases thereby protecting criminals
Get rid of the current police force and bring in the youth we need fit youngsters now not these old overweight grandparents
Mxm nothing coming out of this guy's mouth sounds convincing, it's not like we don't understand English like he does.
Spin dokter
77 000 murder dockets missing😂😂😂
is this the same criminal that was fingered in the stolen police firearm scandal?
Why don't they go back n see who issued orders to close the cases n put those in charge in jail. No questions. Get in. The guys that were going on pension closed the cases. Get those bastards and put them in jail n stop eating free money. Families are suffering with no closure. This guy is talking like an expert bribe master.
Make Ian Cameron the chief of SAPS..Theres all these criminals walking the streets !!!
Give all those out standing dockets to private investigators. And fire the corrupt cops..
BUT . GIVE THESE OUT STANDING CASE ..TO PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS..
GET GERRIE NEL TO GIVE ADVICE..
GOOD LUCK .C. CAMERON ..BE SAFE ALL OF YOU IN THE GNU, AS THERE MIGHT BE JEALOUS CRIMINALS WHO ARE STILL IN GOVERNMENT POSITIONS WHO ARE BENT ..⚖💯💫
Corruption reap up to the top .why can'tthey asked about Senzo meyiwa's case
Cant you interview baloyi that guy believes his own lies
Go do the maths....Dom Doos !!!!
You got no fucking clue how many 5million are !!!!
Where are the jails you wanna lock up 5mill criminals for an extended period...
Wake the fuck up !!!!!
Just like you give our debts to debt collectors , give these old cases to a private company and see how fast business is done.
Thanks ANC Cadre. You show us how little you care for South Africa. Thanks to you for showing how effective the Home Affairs, Sports and Correctional Service ministers are compared to you and your... Comrades.
180000 police 100000 corrupt 30000 incompetent 50000 that needs to be on pension
The balance have BANTU EDUCATION 😊
Yanya wena ngquza
What about the dockets that 'go missing'?
They have been devoured by rats🤣🤣🤣
@@thomas18318 you can buy a rat for as little as 5k
No wonder he is a Lt general . He is very good in reading fake numbers and stutters along the way
😂😂😂
I used to be a policeman when we still had pride in the job and served the public no matter what! Criminals lost all rights once convicted and going to jail was hard labour and no picnic like it is today with cell phones, TV's and all kinds of allowances. Strange how there was no corruption back then and people still showed respect where it was needed and the law and constitution were upheld.
Fantastic general, we are so proud of you. It could have been 10m.
Where is cold case unit now?
Why does South Africa not have a DNA database where if someone is charged with a crime their DNA is taken immediately and entered into a database, even for the smallest crime (eg: drunk driving). This will assist the SAP with future cases where DNA can be collected from the crime scene and can be searched through the database of previous offenders whose DNA has been collected. This could also greatly help close a lot of cold cases. I know this will take a huge amount of funding in the beginning but in the long run, it will outweigh the costs in the future and the resources needed for future cases.
Shocking! What did just listen to?!
The state please do lifestyle audit of the police officers and the prosecutors.
Disgusting! Huge salaries, home subsidies. What the heck is going on. What happened to all the stolen rifles from police offices
?? See how many dockets after closed has been opened again after 3rd or 4th crime??
SAPS members actually don't earn enough money especially for what they do its insane....BUT I agree with you on other things just not the salary part you're lying it's not Huge Salaries.
SAP chickens without heads
A guy has 85 cases against him?if I'm correct. Then correct me.
Why dont they have retired detectives and crime intelligence agents, train the new recruits???
This chap is so poor at basic communication. Check his qualifications!!!😅😅😅
From the national commissioner, many police officers have a serious problem expressing themselves shame😂😂😂
Circular thing gets stopped in its tracks when people turn around and ask when is the end of the line.😮
Justice denied to 5 million people is a crimson stain on our country.😢
This guy is defensive 😒
You're the only one buying what you're selling.
My recent case, in which 3 of my laptops were stolen, was closed despite my providing video surveillance as evidence. The decision to close the case without further investigation is baffling. Given today's technological advancements, it seems like a straightforward process to use facial recognition to identify the suspect in the footage.
Give the SAPS to the DA. They will make it work.
Is this the right platform to reply to?
To stop the rot of dockets going missing, the question needs to be asked 'what checks and balances' can be put in place that when members of the public report a matter and a docket is opened, whoever handles the opening of dockets should be restricted (if there are too many hands handling the opening and filing of dockets then why should it be a surprise that dockets go missing? This needs to be controlled to a few individuals in a station (very few) that it should be enough to cover day and night shifts and also sudden sick reporting. This is the first thing. Once a docket is opened, the member of the public should be given some form of receipt with the police officer's rank, name and force number clearly displayed there on even if it has to be done electronically (if done electronically, then systems, backups and checks and balances put in place) and that police officer in question has to be accountable and/or some form of system put in place to stop police officers making files or dockets disappearing. My point is at each stop along the way (after a docket is opened) there must a check and balance at each step during the investigation to stop the buggers from being corrupt. Should anyone even attempt to make a file disappear, this will automatically set off a red flag in the system. I do not see why they cannot monitor this matter. If they really want to, they can. Same applies to those who are overseeing the police member/investigating officer that they do their work. At the end of the day, even a police member is caught, he gets clubbed by the law and clubbed hard, not a slap on the wrist. If the police office who initially opened the docket with a case number (and the docket goes missing) and it is not noticed by who he is accountable to, then everyone along the chain of command gets clubbed and clubbed hard. It can be done but it lies with them in taking practical steps to ensure accountability, checks and balances (along with using the internet and technology to record who is handling what and who is in oversight) with severe penalties/punishment. The member of the public will also have the 'receipt' that a docket was opened and if he or she goes back and finds out the docket was closed for whatever reason or it was 'missing', then there needs to be a system in place what that member of the public can do to ensure that nothing funny is going on and have the police being held accountable. It can be done. No excuses. The police work for the public and are answerable to the public. Period!
That's where corruption of gininda took up the cooking🍳
The minister of police should employ more security guards and deploy then to the police and let them work together
These are shocking statistics.We live in a lawless country.
😮😮76.000 murder cases closed??! Crazy!! Incompetence at it's best
Mmmmmmmmmm sorry SA mmmmmm black thing man mmmmmm sorry SA
i personally experienced my docket just being closed due to the Commissioner signing permission to remove stolen property from a storage facility. The value of goods were over R1 million and I just get shrugged off. Maybe I should contact DA to have a look into my case file!
It is time for change a serious reshuffle is needed parliament need to get involved we are paying them big money
I'm a victim of a closed case of a car hijack at a gun point which I received through an sms even after I gave police officers the suspect's name whom since disappeared from 2018 just after hijack until today. It's painful to have seniors whom all they do is to be defensive than investigating cases.
It was Bheki Cele....Thank God that crook is gone
One day he will pay for the tears and blood of the victims .
I bet this lt gene is lairer
I can believe 4 million dockets simply got closed, i know a person that was brutally gang raped (in a so called affulent area- table view) just over 2 decades ago, police or detectives didn't even bother following up with them, let alone do an identy kit. That is when an artist draws the profiles of the suspects. Person was never offered counseling ect. So yes I can only imagine just how bad it really is.
Its your job to retain your staff.
Im trying to just imagine just how large a number 5000000 is. Is this a claimed 5million exactly, or is that a rounded off number
Mam Patricia did tell us, now look 🚮🚮🚮
See what happens when you didn’t want the trained skilled professionals, this. They can’t even lie straight. They don’t understand even how the process works. Sickening
Bribery is the name of the game in most cases.
Cold case department?
He's saying it was supposed to get escalated
Investigate this guy
Guys when homelands integrated into rsa, these exact issues were rife there. They’ve just repeated it now across entire country. Criminals
Brown envelope rules SAPS. That's it! 💔
It was done because SAPS is LAZY. My house was broken into and property was stolen. The IO did not even visit the scene once. She phoned to say she was closing the case because she had no leads. I am saying that that USELESS policewoman DID NOT investigate my case.
Spell "Cup".
32😂
1 of those was mine 😭.. Nolle prosequi , written in black permanent marker , Case file tossed in some dark dirty room to be eatten by amagundane
Beke Cele has a lot to answer for.
How many senior officials high ranks Captains and higher?? How many with matric??
Moral.of this feeble excuse is, sapds adding to the misery of more + more victims.
Anybody here have had a SAPS office refuse to open docket? I have so I imagine millions of others have had the same experience!I once saw a murder docket that had one statement that was a full four lines long! You cant bullshit your victims!
BHEKI CELE'S LEGACY.
How can you say case is closed and it involve money
Anyone else find the irony at 2:23?
What a mess 😬
According to this guy there's nothing wrong,SAPS is doing well...
Well there you have it folks... Nothing wrong at SAPS... Believe thr ANC at your own peril
All ways news About foreign if you don't want Live in RSA if government off RSA he didn't give paper how is gat ID
Just talking for the sake I have answered
Ask about senszo case world is watching and wont invest in our country
He just defended the statement by saying things have always been like this......well isn't that the problem and that things do infact need to change
Amanga amanga mina I'm still waiting open a case 2018 I'm still waiting
Telll me lies tell me sweet little lies there is no time or the manpower to follow up
I dunno mans but he sounds like how the anc been sounding like the last 3 decades, let it go bro the jig is up
1800+800=2600
Doez this guy really think we are stupid and believe all ths nonsesns his talking. My word.
Guy you failed..100% on integigence
Mhonqonqo:yes police in the lower ranks are underpaid,absolutely underpaid,that's why we will experience such exodus of members
Glyfada is full of Sahetians at this time!
Sorry, wrong platform!
Let's deal with unemployment by employing graduates that can be trained to be police and help with thorough investigations.
do you know that nowadays u can wait for 2years if they take ur gun to palistic I'm talking about the gun that has licenses.
Bla bla bla, we don't know how to do our jobs.
SAPS must explain we cannot accept their bulshit stories.
What happened to the rape cases in Krugersdorp the ladys that short a Video in the Minister,.just went quite those illegal mine worker
He’s lying. Only dockets with warrants have bring forward dates. They close and sent to archive. That’s only if on role. They must do dtatus enquiry on these dockets. Pls Xoli the rank of lt Gen is adressed as general. Our country has been destroyed in ever way. This man is talking nonsense. Those cases are bf. Pls check properly you’re giving him space to lie and confuse facts.
Police think they are doing the people of South Africa a favour they forget they are public servants not all some of them are lazy 4 police driving in a police van the driver drive no police Man have a interest on the public each one is busy sleeping or the cells phone 😂😂😂😂😂😂 no interest in the work only the pay packet 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏