Pesa Twist. Tallinn Trams and Trains October 2024, Estonia.

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  • Опубликовано: 10 янв 2025

Комментарии • 24

  • @mihkelkastehein9470
    @mihkelkastehein9470 26 дней назад

    I love the big BAHH face its got they are so much better than the old ones THANK YOU TALLINN FOR GIVING US NEW TRAMS FINALLY

  • @squrt29
    @squrt29 2 месяца назад +8

    They look immaculate!

    • @squrt29
      @squrt29 2 месяца назад +6

      And greetings from Denver, Colorado USA

  • @TrainspotterSPb
    @TrainspotterSPb 2 месяца назад +3

    Excellent video with trams from Tallinn

  • @carleryk
    @carleryk 2 месяца назад +8

    Old Tatra trams are gradually being replaced with new Pesa trams. Only renovated and low-floor Tatras are going to remain in service until they too are replaced, probably in mid 2030s. 10 additional trams will be purchased soon that should arrive in 2027/28, although the manufacturer is still to be determined. I hope that Skoda wins this procurement and then we'll finally have some Finnish built trams on our streets, like in Helsinki and Tampere 🙂

    • @hangingontheWildside
      @hangingontheWildside Месяц назад

      Fingers crossed! I too have been dreaming of having the Skoda Artic to be rushing around Tallinn’s streets. But in the meantime, the Pesa ufo is a fun little tram to have!

    • @ragnarlaine4065
      @ragnarlaine4065 Месяц назад

      @@hangingontheWildside They had the opportunity to switch from the 1067mm track gauge to the standard 1435mm track gauge in 2014 when they were rebuilding the routes. This would have allowed for more compact routes without the need for balloon loops and would have also enabled bi-directional trams to run in both directions. However, they didn't make the change, so that's just the way it is now

    • @ragnarlaine4065
      @ragnarlaine4065 Месяц назад

      It is pretty strange to say that “old” Tatra trams are replaced with these “new” Polish/Russian trams because the infrastructure is per se oudated so it does not make sense that something less or more older when the infrastructure as whole is outdated-I even do not focus on how old it is-I focus on how user unfriendly current infrastructure is, it is far away to be fast, isolated from other traffic participants to be safe, safe for boarding and exiting for all people including passengers with mobility issues to get on and off the tram. This is especially helpful for parents with strollers, as they can easily roll their stroller onto the train without having to navigate platform and tram steps or narrow doorways.
      BTW the bi-directional ELRON trams (yeah I know they are considered like trains but they are actually more looks like trams of high quality and match with I mentioned before) are much more what I would expect from city transportation, maybe they should just replace all TLT trams with ELRON trams instead of introducing “new” ones that still have the same old problems. The ELRON trams are a much better solution, and they would make a big difference in terms of speed, safety, accessibility, and overall user experience

    • @henrikmanitski1061
      @henrikmanitski1061 Месяц назад +1

      @@ragnarlaine4065 The cost would have been prohibitively gigantic, since you would have had to rebuild EVERY SINGLE KILOMETER of the system AND replace ALL the trams. It would have also meant a 5-10 year pause in tram service. Unless you had unlimited funds and could carry it out in 1-2 years. Imagine the level of chaos, incomparable with the one that we had to endure the past couple of years due to the reconstruction works in the city centre.

    • @henrikmanitski1061
      @henrikmanitski1061 Месяц назад +1

      @@ragnarlaine4065 I see that you are unfamiliar both with the infrastructure, the rolling stock and the principles on how they work.

  • @Thomas1980
    @Thomas1980 2 месяца назад +1

    Very nice Video!

  • @mashasheffa2248
    @mashasheffa2248 Месяц назад

    Good overview, thank You!
    Is there cozy in the tram cabins during a cold weather?

  • @LV-426...
    @LV-426... 2 месяца назад +2

    When I saw the Tatras, before even seeing their name on the screen, I thought - this is so Soviet looking. My heart had sunk:(((

    • @carleryk
      @carleryk Месяц назад

      If I'm correct, almost all Tallinn's Tatra trams are bought secondhand from German cities.

    • @LV-426...
      @LV-426... Месяц назад

      @@carleryk Former East Germany? Just like Estonia it was under occupation. So, no wonder.

    • @hangingontheWildside
      @hangingontheWildside Месяц назад

      @@LV-426...It wasn’t technically under Soviet occupation. It was more of a puppet state, but still a nation of its own.

    • @LV-426...
      @LV-426... Месяц назад

      @@hangingontheWildside
      A puppet state with puppet trams.

    • @MarkRand-z6s
      @MarkRand-z6s Месяц назад

      ​@@LV-426...omg 😂 you are a serious shithole of a person. Its a video about trams for gods sake!!

  • @mikaveekoo
    @mikaveekoo 2 месяца назад +1

    Where are these Pesa trams manifactured?

    • @lo_lo_lo124
      @lo_lo_lo124 2 месяца назад +3

      In Poland in city Bydgoszcz

  • @felixgentle9709
    @felixgentle9709 2 месяца назад +6

    The Czech Tatra KT4TMR mentioned in the video is only the chassis of the original Tatra product. These trams were actually built in Tallinn in a small series (approx. 6-7 pieces). Everything: design, electronics and interior, was made in Estonia (in Tallinn workshops).
    Tallinn has a long history of building trams. Only domestically produced trams operated in the city. From 1925 to about 1955, they were made in two companies -- Sadama factories and Ilmarine factory. After that, East German trams were used at first, and from the 1970s, Czech trams.