Vladimir Horowitz, piano - Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto No. 1 in B-flat minor, Op. 23 (1948)
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- Vladimir Horowitz, piano - Tchaikovsky - Piano Concerto No. 1 in B-flat minor, Op. 23 (1948)
New York: Bruno Walter conducting the New York Philharmonic Orchestra, April 11th, 1948.
(00:00) I: Allegro non troppo e molto maestoso -- Allegro con spirito (B flat minor → B flat major)
(19:02) II: Andantino semplice -- Prestissimo (D flat major)
(25:14) III: Allegro con fuoco (B flat minor → B flat major)
I've never heard a greater ovation in the middle of a piece; after the first movement. I wonder if this recording gives us a glimpse of the night in 1928 when Horowitz, a last-minute substitute, got his big break in Hamburg so wonderfully described by Abram Chasins in his great book "Speaking of Pianists":
"...After the orchestral opening, Horowitz started. Upon hearing his first crashing chord, the conductor Pabst spun around in amazement. At the second, he jumped off the podium and sprinted to the piano, staring incredulously at Horowitz's hands. He stayed right there until the conclusion of the first cadenza, his face a study in disbelief while his arms beat time - Horowitz's time. When it was all over, the piano lay on the platform like a slain dragon and the whole house rose as one, screaming hysterically. Pabst grabbed his soloist and hugged him repeatedly, while the audience tore the place apart..."
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I saw/heard him in Los Angeles at a very advanced age. One of the most thrilling evenings of my life. The standing ovation was in one motion every human rose in unison, unavoidably ecstatic.
Mind-boggling moment. Many.
Version digne des dieux,la plus émotionnelle,selon moi.Un immense merci. 👏👏👏
Horowitz total authority, transcendental musicianship and virtuosity are in a class by itself Nobody else even comes close. I believe Bruno Walter's keen sense of musicianship really inspired Horowitz.
The best Tchaikovsky Bbm concerto. Will never be matched.
I Wouldn't say that if you care to listen to both his 1941 Recording Reissued under licence by His Master's Voice in 1956 in the Golden Treasurey of Immortal Performances Record Number CSLP 505 and his 1943 Recording Reissued by RCA Victor in 1960 Record Number RB16190 and both Played with the NBC Symphony Orchestra Conducted by Arturo Toscanini you will be Pleasantly Surprised by the sheer Beauty of the Performances
@@martincook318 I've known both of those recordings since I was a teenager. I'm seventy now.
Well if you still want to Buy the earlier Version(1941)the beat LP Transfer is Reissued under licence by His Master's Voice in the Golden Treasurey of Immortal Performances Reissued in 1956 Record Number CSLP 505,the later 1943 Recording was Reissued in 1960 by RCA Victor Record Number RB16190 but that one is good but not as good as the earlier one and I was 64 just before Christmas and My Great Niece Emily was 8 on My Birthday 22-12-1956 and can you please help Me as I'm looking for a LP Reissue of the 1948 Recording of the Tchaikovsky B flat Minor Piano Concerto with Bruno Walter and the Newyork Philharmonic
NOT TRUE!!!! Horowitz not The greatest Tchaikovsky piano Concerto no 1 player!!! The Best Tchaikovsky piano Concerto1 players Are really 1: Emil Gilels ( The Best piano sound Ever!).2: Grigory Sokolov ( THE TITAN THE GIANT OF THE PIANO!! Sokolov The most rhythmic vitalness! Unbeatable vitalness!) 3: Andrei Gavrilov ( The most Genius Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1 player Ever! Gavrilov Try to play The score notes tells You How to play! No one else do no Try.to follow The notes because is toi difficult! Gavrilov Try to play The correct tempo!! ) 4:Van Cliburn in Moscow!. Van Cliburn More relax payer.than Horowitz!!
Artur Rubinstein id Better Horowitz Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1! Rubinstein his piano sound is unbeatable The most beautiful piano sound for Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1! Rubinstein The right peaceful tempo than Horowitz! IT makes Rubinstein art much Better! Horowitz cool icy piano sound for Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1 is Not The perfect most suiteful for Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1! Horowitz so crazy Mad roar playing ever!!! NOT THE BEST! THE MAD CRAZY ROAR HOROWITZ!!!
I think this is his best performance of this piece. His other recordings are fabulous, but this is so special.Also Bruno Walter was an incredibly great and very famous conductor.
Two Horowitz "signatures" here: The cheeky arpeggio at 30:08 instead of the straight octave as written, and at 31:01, so ridiculously fast up the keyboard that he actually has time to slow to a ritardando at the conclusion. I've heard Argerich play the former, but NO ONE else accomplish the latter.
Scheissmeister
Argerich have not that feeling for tempo... I have heard her and it was such a massive frustation...she destroys everything....
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher Tatsächlich! Höchste Meisterschaft.
@@StudioBonn "Argerich have not that feeling for tempo" ... "she destroys everything", what are these stupid claims? Did you listen to her version with the RPO conducted by Charles Dutoit (DG)? It is objectively one of the most respectful of the score and the most musical there is. Feeling and virtuosity united without unnecessary fuss.
I really like Horowitz, but I always found strange his rhythm at the start of the Allegro con spirito. He does not play the triplets as indicated on the score, two eighth notes followed by a half sigh, but like a sixteenth note followed by a dotted eighth note and the half sigh. It is even more marked with Toscanini.
By far and away Horowitz and Argerich have the best octave technique I have ever heard. I would add that this is the era of the virtuoso where the average technical mastery is actually higher than in Horowitz era (notice I didnt say artistic mastery) I suspect MANY PIANIST could accomplish the later example in this concerto,.........if they wanted to. It appears that Horowitz was making a statement with the tempi, likely only because he thought of the idea (like he did in many of his other transcriptions).
I love music...good music, of almost all genres but with a clear preference for the classic.
I don't understand techniques, I just guide myself by what my ears lead to my heart allowing me to ride the waves of the orchestra sounds and in this case the piano!
For me there were and still are great pianists but two Jews who have already left are my anchor to dream and seek a little of the desired solitude two different styles but with the gift of giving wings to dreamers to fly through the corners of the Universe where there are paradises of dreams with blue skies
in which the Gaivotas D'Argenta (I'm a fan of this bird's flight over cliffs and seas) does not remember the flock but only the serene and undisturbed flight that two Geniuses at the piano achieve! I am certainly talking about Vladimir Horowitz with hands that sometimes caress the keyboard and then with a violence and at the same time soft as a feather hovering in the air (hence the flight of the Seagull in the chosen supreme solitude) where closed eyes reveal paradise.
The Other Genius is not in this selection but also a Jew with velvet hands where it seems that the keyboard moves before being played such the magic of those blessed hands that were by the Creator!
My apologies for the long text, but these two Geniuses occupy a good part of my life with their works, I don't care about their names, I just want to feel them shaping my soul!
One can see why Horowitz and Rubinstein could never have been friends. Two superb musicians at opposite ends of the music spectrum--Rubinstein so refined and polished and Horowitz the wild Russian madman. I wonder how many of these stolen off the airwaves bootlegs are still floating around out there that will never see daylight. No matter. We have at least three live now of H (not counting the in-studio one with Toscanini) and that should be a pretty good testament to H's virtuosity. I"m still waiting for a live performance someone recorded off the radio of Rachmaninoff playing the Liszt E-flat. I think he played it in about 14 minutes. I've never heard a faster performance. The powerful b-flat scale from top to bottom at the end was so fast that it sounded like Rachmaninoff ripped the piano in two.
One has to remember that this was a live performance in the later 1940s I am so honoured to hear his genius. I would love to have been at the concert !!! He was so incredibly gifted !!! His playing excites me like nobody else.
Geoffrey Tozer in his 1989 performance from Hamer Hall, Melbourne matches this performance, as the world would discover if the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra would issue the performance commercially.
By far, Horowitz best perfomance of this concerto. And probably, the most exciting and explosive perfomance ever. The gigantic sound and the octaves playing it is just out of this world. No surprises people went crazy after first mouvement. At the end, was a pandemonium.
In which Version are you Referring to the earlier 1941 Recording Reissued under licence by His Master's Voice in the Golden Treasurey of Immortal Performances Recorded on Tuesday May 6th 1941 or the later one Reissued by RCA Victor in 1960 Record Number RB16190 and Recorded on Sunday April 25th 1943 and Reissued in 1960 and the earlier version Sounds far better than the later one and it was a shame that the two Record Companies Broke off on Monday September 30th 1957 and went there Sperate ways when RCA Victor Switched to DECCA and His Master's Voice Became part of the EMI Group and when the 78rpm Record set was issued it was issued as a four Record set Side's one-four the first Movement five and six the second Movement and seven and eight the last Movement
NOT TRUE! The Best Tchaikovsky piano Concerto
no 1 players Are really Emil Gilels ( The King!) Gilels The Best piano sound Ever for Tchaikovsky piano Concerto no 1! Much Better than Horowitz is Artur Rubinstein ( The golden tone! Much Better piano sound than Horowitz!) Rubinstein his tempo not too fast is Better than Horowitz! The Titan The Giant of The piano Grigory Sokolov The most colorful sound! Sokolov The most Titanic Ever!!! Andrei Gavrilov The most ideas The most Genius Tchaikovsky piano Concerto no 1!) Mikhail Pletnev The most Powerful Ever! Pletnev his Power is unbeatable!!! The second most loud and hard strong was The Sledgehammer Lazar Berman ( his Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1 is The most awful trash Ever!
@@RaineriHakkarainen I was making a comparation about Horowitz own recordings, not the top 10 pianists in history 🤨
@@kaleidoscopio5 The top ten Artur Rubinstein ( The God) Grigory Sokolov ( The Titan The Giant of The piano) Emil Gilels ( The King) Wilhelm Kempff ( The most beautiful piano sound Ever) Radu Lupu ( The most colorful piano sound Ever) Vladimir Ashkenazy ( The most colorful volcanic piano sound Ever) Sviatoslav Richter Maurizio Pollini ( The Genius no 2) Alexei Lubimov (.The Genius no 1) Maria Grinberg ( Mozart piano concerto no 24! Maria The most passion! Maria The most fierce Ever Mozart 24) Natalia Trull ( THE QUEEN TIGER POWER! Prokoviev piano concerto no 3!).Rosa Tamarkina ( Rachmaninov piano concerto no 2! Rosa The RAW energy! ) Stanislav Igolinsky ( better than Lipatti) Victor Eresko! Our Time Busoni) Samson Francois! Solomon Cutner ( The perfect structure of music) , Mikhail Pletnev ( The most Powerful) Dimitri Bashkirov,( The Best Mendelssohn piano concerto no 1! Bashkirov The Best piano sound for Mendelssohn piano concerto no 1) Murray Perahia ( Mozart piano concerto no 25 a class of his own playing Mozart 25!). Andrei Gavrilov ( Bach Concerto 1 1052! Gavrilov no 1 Bach Concerto 1!)
А Алексей Султанов--ГЕНИЙ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Выше всех, его можно слушать бесконечно! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
If the devil could play this piece, I doubt it could sound more demonic. Manic octaves, frenzied passages of fierce energy, it breathes power and life into every hackneyed corner of this tired, warhorse of a concerto. You have to listen through the veil of audio imperfection but it is well worth the experience of hearing something that we on earth will never hear again.
Was this live Recording ever Reissued by the Columbia Gramophone Company on a 33CX 12inch LP because I've got Vladimir Horowitz 1941 and the 1943 Recordings with Arturo Toscanini and the NBC Symphony Orchestra and I can't find any Mention of this 1948 Recording and this Recording is as good as the earlier two Recordings what Vladimir Horowitz Made with his Farther in law and the NBC Symphony Orchestra and I know that Bruno Walter Switched from His Master's Voice to the Columbia Gramophone Company
Tchaikovsky could not played it in that abslolute empathetic style as Vladimir Horowtz it played! This was my first contact to classical musik as I was 12 years and till now (aged 56). I have the legendary vinyl record, mastered in 1958, and I'm so proud to have it (Toscanini conducted it)! The special timing, the impression and the very synchron and emotional feeling between the orchestara and Horowitz was a very special moment in time to act together! I have nether heard a version that could come near to this one! (This one is very near... but within some little differences...) It is absolute unique!! I have to thank him so much to open my heart to music!!!!
Tchaikovsky wasn't a skilled pianist so you're right. But yes, Horowitz is great!
bloody hell (sorry..) Wow.. seventy odd years after it was written..
normally i listen to Martha argerich and Charles dutoit for this concerto, stunning performance by them but this will become a favourite too i think.. i learnt some time ago older recordings can be fabulous despite sound quality.. dinu lipatti and Von Karajan leap to my mind..
this should have more views, thankyou for sharing.. 🙂
The Best Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1 are really Emil Gilels( the Best piano sound Ever!) Grigory Sokolov ( The most rhythmic vitalness unbeatable vitalness! Sokolov The most Titanic! ) Andrei Gavrilov!( The Genius! Gavrilov only one WHO Try to follow That notes tempo score! Gavrilov Try to play correct tempo! No one Else can not do IT) Van Cliburn ( Cliburn More relax than Horowitz! ) Artur Rubinstein ( better piano sound than Horowitz! Rubinstein better art than Crazy Mad Roar Horowitz!!)
@@RaineriHakkarainen What a jerk you are. Instead of using your knowledge to educate people, you just yell at them. Such a waste! I feel sorry for you.
It's probably safe to say the night this was performed was the best night of Bruno Walter's career.
I really love the opening. I wonder why the main melody of the opening is not repeated later.
To me, the first 3 minutes is the best.
Maybe asking for melodies is somewhat childish and naive, but still, I like melodies.
I came to this version after listening to another. I know Horowitz won't disappoint me. And I am right. The determination and power in his playing is surreal.
Thanks for sharing!
Has anyone even come close to this man's genius?
No.
No, and no.
Yes
YES, Geoffrey Tozer did so on many occasions in America, Europe, China, the UK, Japan, New Zealand and Australia.
Horowitz is undoubtedly unsurpassed... This is an really explosive performance.Unique.
Emil Gilels Grigory Sokolov Andrei Gavrilov Van Cliburn Rubinstein better than Crazy Mad Roar Horowitz! Gilels The King! Sokolov The Titan!! Gavrilov The notes King! Gavrilov only who follow The correct tempo score!! Van Cliburn More relax player than Horowitz! Rubinstein better piano sound than Horowitz! Rubinstein better art than Crazy Mad Roar Horowitz!!!
@@RaineriHakkarainen Do you think you will convince people this way? Just shouting and name calling? Why do you do this? It is so pointless, and really annoying.
It's disappointing not to be able to see this, so we can pretend a bit: I looked at (No 1 - Barenboim, Celibidache, MPO (1991)) and it's 7:07 for the last movement. Here, it's 5:53. That's a 1.209 ratio. So, if we play the Barenboim at 1.25 (try it!) it gives you a fair idea of what this guy's hands looked like that night in 1948.
Это звучание на уровне Божественного❤❗❗❗❤💥❤💥❤
God I would have loved to have heard Vladimir Horowitz play this concert one more time before he died.
no other pianist has this explosive sound that comes off the piano almost violent.
Very beautıful playıng .
It is thrilling to hear the ovation after 1st movement. Proves that the typical silence after movements doesn't necessarily fit, you know? As to the speed, I've never heard the movement concluded so rapidly. Definitely added to the excitement!
Great Horowitz!
17:30 to do such a continuous accelerando is completely crazy ........
Sounds crazy for other pianists. For Horowitz it was natural.
Especially since it is not indicated on the score! To serve the score, or to use the score for oneself?
@@rigel48
Hello Policeman Rigel !
Are you really very sure that it's a bad idea to play romantic music with some liberty ?
The score, the score, the score ............ always the same obsession with people like you.
If you really want the pure score, give it to an computer connected with a piano, and not to a pianist.
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher Of course you are right. But perhaps there is a happy medium?
@@rigel48
What is "a happy medium" ?
The account of Horowitz's performance of the first crashing chord in 1928 is remarkably similar to the one Erwin Nyiregyhazi gave of his performance of the same concerto in 1917:
"Around the age of 14, adolescence brought power. When I was 15 years old I substituted for Rachmaninoff in Christiana, in the Tchaikovsky concerto: When I played those first D‐flat chords, I myself was surprised, and the conductor almost fell off the podium. It was sensation."
-- www.nytimes.com/1978/03/05/archives/music-view-the-case-of-the-vanishing-pianist-music-view-nyiregyhazi.html
17:20- 18:22
ENOUGH SAID!
i play it at the same speed ;) check out cziffras version, i always play alongside it
３１：０５からの、堂々とした終わり方！
全てを出し切った感満載である。
It's a remarkable performance but why they start 2nd movement in a such fast tempo?
браво
Султанов тоже исполняет гениально
Can anyone please tell Me where I can obtain a LP Record of this Recording as I've got a copy of both the 1941 Recording Reissued under licence by His Master's Voice in the Golden Treasurey of Immortal Performances Record Number CSLP 505 and Reissued in 1956 and the 1943 Recording Reissued by RCA Victor in 1960 Record Number RB16190 and both Played by the NBC Symphony Orchestra Conducted by Arturo Toscanini
eBay or Amazon perhaps... haven't seen vinyl (Bruno Walter Society) for years, and the Brahms had a chunk missing that was replaced on a couple of CD releases.
quality
anybody here after reading the book a gentleman in moscow by amor towles?
29:53
I Know that this is the 1943 Recording but as U-Tube ever thought of Transferring the 1941 Recording first Reissued in 1956 Under licence by His Master's Voice in the Golden Treasurey of Immortal Performances Record Number CSLP 505 and Reissued in 1956 and taken from a NBC Symphony Broadcast and was the 1943 Recording of this famous Piano Concerto ever Reissued by His Master's Voice if yes what is the Catalogue Number
Gilels showed the best interpretation. But Horowitz doesn't seem to be human. Richter is the best pianist, but it's a pity that Tchaikovsky Piano Concerto No. 1 is not enough to belong to the same level as gilels and horowitz.
Compared to Horowitz, Richter is next to nothing, even though he had his own moments with some pieces Horowitz had never performed (like Rach 2).
31:01 the piano has been tamed
Horowitz was a genius, and still...Van Cliburn has owned this masterpiece since Moscow 1958, when he enlightened it with heart & soul > ruclips.net/video/6qROema2MDI/видео.html
NOT TRUE!! The Best Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1 players Are really 1: Emil Gilels ( The King! The Best piano sound Ever!!).2: Grigory Sokolov( The most rhythmic vital! Unbeatable vitalness! Sokolov The most Titanic!!).3: Andrei Gavrilov.the notes King! Gavrilov The only one who follow The notes score!!. Gavrilov The only who can do IT!!). 4:Van Cliburn More relax player than Horowitz!! ) &:Artur Rubinstein better Piano sound than Horowitz! Rubinstein better art than Crazy Mad Roar Horowitz!!
@@RaineriHakkarainen That's just your personal taste, nothing more, nothing less. There is no "right" or "wrong" in music, since music is an art form, and not a science or mathematics.
April 11th is my birthday. Haha.
Not December 32? Haha.
I mean, it’s one thing to play octaves fast. But to play them fast and fffff is... well it’s a whole other thing.
You are right. But on the score they are just ff. This concerto is too often used as a vehicle for unnecessary display of savage speed and strength.
rigel48 True
The only one who could match this is Alexei Sultanov....
Emil Gilels The King Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1! Grigory Sokolov The most titanic The most rhythmic vital! Unbeatable vitalness! Andrei Gavrilov only one who follow The notes The correct tempo score! Gavrilov The only WHO can do it! The notes Are too. difficult. to others! Gavrilov The notes King!! Van Cliburn More relax player than Horowitz!!! Artur Rubinstein better Piano sound than Horowitz! Rubinstein better art than Crazy Mad Roar Horowitz!!!.
I heard Sultanov live Chopin piano concerto no 2!! Sultanov was the crown Prince only!!! Grigory Sokolov The Titan The Giant of The piano!!
まさに、競走曲や！
29:19 Walter in trance and Horowitz exploding. Times, old times in which music was an orgasm.
Today : Helene Grimaud and Tennstedt. Sterility. Boring sterility.
People of these days can't handle pure bare wild beauty.....it is too much for their weak spirits 😑
@@kaleidoscopio5
Thank you.
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher thank you for expressing yourself.
@@kaleidoscopio5
You are so welcome, dear kaleidoscopio ... among all these cold asses, only voting "thumb down" against my commentaries, but never having the courage to write something.
So much morons and cowards .... anonymous traitors and shit eaters .... this is incredible .....
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher it is not easy to live and life under your points of view. But after eliminate any doubt, it is quite addictive.....I don't know you, but your chatartic recognition of pure raw beauty that allows mistakes and imperfections is a yell to freedom. And I want to thank you for that, Fritz 😁
17:30 oppressed homosexual composer played by an oppressed homosexual pianist.
Result : agressive and sheer beauty. Dynamite.
When frustration turns into a creative product......Horowitz is really on at this perfomance, in technique and intuition.....
That I find hard to Believe about Vladimir Horowitz being Homasexual as he was Married to Wanda Toscanini Arturo Toscanini's Daughter from 1933 till his own Death in 1989
@@martincook318 His homosexuality is well known. He lived with life long trauma and depression because he could not live according to his sexual orientation. He was bisexual perhaps but definitely more gay.
@@kaleidoscopio5
Thank you, you understand all of it. At last an human being here.
@@Fritz_Maisenbacher I am trying, Fritz. But this is a good start....
Symbol of Soviet Union
Ode to Joy was written in 1785 and it is symbol of fucking European Union.
+Ke Li I guess u don't know the difference between russian music and soviet union. this one is Russian.
+Ke Li the composer and the pianist are Russians.
please~~~, stop labeling music with politics and ruin the experience.
@@ruilovesschreiner6847 well it is pride..the emotion that drives the nationalistic comment..and hearing this music brings out this strong emotion
I think Martha Argerich has a superior interpretation. Horowitz is just speed and sloppy playing in my opinion. No doubt a master, but speed doesn't equal musicianship necessarily.
The Best Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1 players Are really 1: Emil Gilels ( The King! The Best piano sound Ever for Tchaikovsky piano concerto no 1) #: Grigory Sokolov ( The most rhythmic vitalness!. unbeatable vitalness! Sokolov The most Titanic!!!,) 3: Andrei Gavrilov ( The only one Try to follow The notes! Gavrilov Try to play The correct tempo! No one Else do not follow the notes correct tempo score! Because is too difficult! Gavrilov The only WHO can do IT) 4:Van in Moscow! Cliburn More relax player than Horowitz!!). 5:Artur Rubinstein better Piano sound than Horowitz! Rubinstein better art than Crazy Mad Roar Horowitz!! ).
Van Cliburn More relax player than Horowitz!!
29:57