Asus ROG Ally X Hands-On vs Asus ROG Ally - What's New & What It Means For Gaming

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  • Опубликовано: 30 июн 2024
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    The Asus ROG Ally was the first Zen 4/RDNA 3 handheld, delivering superior performance vs Steam Deck - and now, there's a ROG Ally X. The same core processor and display remain, but virtually everything else has improved - with a doubling of battery capacity and a bump to 24GB of LPDDR5X delivering an improved experience. Rich has been hands-on and this is his report.
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    00:00:00 Introduction
    00:01:14 ROG Ally X vs ROG Ally - Tech Specs
    00:01:43 Faster Memory & More Memory Matter
    00:03:03 2x Battery Capacity
    00:04:53 ROG Ally X Changes: Inside & Out
    00:07:57 Z1 Extreme + 24GB Performance - What To Expect
    00:08:33 Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora - 24GB Is Game-Changing
    00:11:04 The Wrap-Up
    00:12:46 And Now, The Conclusion
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Комментарии • 652

  • @MINUANOGAMING
    @MINUANOGAMING 2 дня назад +411

    Asus: Don't benchmark it.
    Linus: It was revealed to me in a dream that it runs like this.
    Rich: Look at this frametime graph!

    • @m0ntypth0n
      @m0ntypth0n 2 дня назад +12

      😂

    • @SpentAmbitionDrain
      @SpentAmbitionDrain День назад +18

      Linus is a ad peddler.

    • @loldoctor
      @loldoctor День назад +7

      @@SpentAmbitionDrainwhich is a shame because he has some really knowledgeable staff. They just don’t have the time or opportunity to share that knowledge

    • @V3ntilator
      @V3ntilator День назад +10

      @@SpentAmbitionDrain Linus: "Hear me out". PS Portal from Sony makes much more sense than you think...
      Meanwhile the rest of the world didn't think it made sense for the right reasons.
      Then you have IGN who gave the same score on both PS Portal and Asus Rog Ally...

    • @vtg1800
      @vtg1800 День назад +1

      Handheld bas for gaming, under 60fps with lower resolution 720P. This very uncomfortable

  • @AmicusRyelei
    @AmicusRyelei 2 дня назад +410

    "Please review our new thing but, also, don't review it."

    • @user-ds8rj2vc4v
      @user-ds8rj2vc4v 2 дня назад +31

      Weird, as you'd think the massive improvements are the main selling points. And tbh, they could do with any good publicity right now.

    • @criticalgeek3914
      @criticalgeek3914 2 дня назад +15

      It is sus indeed. I was going to wait for the ally X, to see if I should get it over the steam deck oled. But since the "reviews with embargoes, and cant talk about numbers"...guess who just got an steam deck oled yesterday 😅

    • @lamontieverett4949
      @lamontieverett4949 2 дня назад

      Thats a great point im going to get the x but it will be my first hand held since the psp but i been thinking i may get and x and a steamdeck soon after because the steamdeck is the closest to perfect but the x has more performance

    • @user-ds8rj2vc4v
      @user-ds8rj2vc4v 2 дня назад

      @@lamontieverett4949
      The X willy have better performance and battery life. But it will also cost almost twice the price of the OLED 512GB.
      The OLED 512GB will have a better screen and software.
      You could always buy the Deck OLED 512GB now, use it for a year and then just wait for the next revision of the Ally X.

    • @clownavenger0
      @clownavenger0 2 дня назад

      @@criticalgeek3914 The Steam Deck OLED is just a better mobile device. I won't be playing a AAA FPS or Alan Wake on a mobile gaming PC anyway. I will play games like Bloodstained which look amazing on an OLED screen.

  • @anonony9081
    @anonony9081 2 дня назад +248

    Sorry you looked at it wrong, we can't honor the warranty...

    • @V3ntilator
      @V3ntilator День назад +2

      I never had anything from Asus that broke, so i don't know. I bought a Lenovo Legion PC Handheld instead and they honor warranties.

    • @deadlock_problem
      @deadlock_problem 14 часов назад

      @@V3ntilator have you missed the past month?

    • @V3ntilator
      @V3ntilator 12 часов назад

      @@deadlock_problem Missed what?

    • @PixelatedWolf2077
      @PixelatedWolf2077 8 часов назад

      @@V3ntilator The issues regarding Asus's way of honoring warrenty. Gamer's Nexus covered this ^^

    • @atomickaiser1934
      @atomickaiser1934 6 часов назад

      ​@@V3ntilatoroh you sweet summer child

  • @grimdicer152
    @grimdicer152 2 дня назад +388

    Patiently waiting for the Steam Deck 2

    • @animationmann6612
      @animationmann6612 2 дня назад +14

      Its gonna take quite some time see the Valve Index PPL are still waiting.

    • @Dionyzos
      @Dionyzos 2 дня назад +31

      SteamOS for other handhelds will be even more exciting than a new Steam Deck

    • @zenithquasar9623
      @zenithquasar9623 2 дня назад +41

      Steam Deck 1 is fine. You can always wait for better tech to arrive, but that's like a never ending cycle.

    • @danielhernanalonso7219
      @danielhernanalonso7219 2 дня назад +1

      Dont know if that will ever happen, i think that work is done for valve with steam deck.

    • @user-s8jb3qb6y
      @user-s8jb3qb6y 2 дня назад +37

      At the release of the Deck OLED in Nov 2023, Valve said the Deck successor is still "years away" because the technology (read: portable performance with low battery draw) doesn't exist.
      And looking at the latest gen 8840U over the Ally's 7840U, Valve aren't wrong; the 8840U is essentially the same chip but with a NPU which is pointless on a gaming handheld.
      That said, knowing Valve's release timing of the OLED, I would be looking at Nov 2025 to Nov 2026 window.

  • @user-wx9mh1qe2b
    @user-wx9mh1qe2b 2 дня назад +365

    Not playing russian roulette with ASUS RMA department.

    • @DistinctionDino
      @DistinctionDino 2 дня назад +44

      I feel you but I genuinely cannot remember the last time I sent any device for repair.

    • @user-wx9mh1qe2b
      @user-wx9mh1qe2b 2 дня назад +24

      @@DistinctionDino I still get flashbacks of trying to RMA my old Xiaomi phone due to headphone jack malfunction. Fuckers kept returning it, stating it's working. In the end I had to solder in a new one myself lol.

    • @sglowats6020
      @sglowats6020 2 дня назад +14

      I just had to send my Ally in for the microSD card reader failing. I’m hoping my experience is better than others that have reached out to people like Gamers Nexus.

    • @Cavscout101
      @Cavscout101 2 дня назад +1

      @@DistinctionDino edge cases bro we have to worry about the edge cases. 😂

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 2 дня назад +1

      Maybe stop cooking for SD card reader. Zero reason to go above 30w tdp locked plugged in. You're just generating more heat

  • @OOOcannal
    @OOOcannal 2 дня назад +142

    Battery life is a real problem for gaming handhelds

    • @gagatai
      @gagatai 2 дня назад +21

      It’s like those android phone a decade ago. With powerful performance but super short battery life. Guess we have to wait a few more generations till it gets mature.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 2 дня назад +10

      Limitations of l-ion batteries

    • @-TriP-
      @-TriP- 2 дня назад +14

      for $30 you can get a 20,000mAh 65W power bank that's still quite small and should extend the battery life considerably

    • @bulletpunch9317
      @bulletpunch9317 2 дня назад +7

      Except the switch

    • @yibozhao1012
      @yibozhao1012 2 дня назад +4

      @@-TriP- by 0.5x at best, not 8x :)

  • @DelphineDofain
    @DelphineDofain 2 дня назад +39

    The Ally has everything a gamer wants: RGB LEDs, Windows 11, AI and tiny fans

    • @RedPillAlways
      @RedPillAlways 2 дня назад +1

      Not a 65-inch OLED nor PHYSICAL MEDIA.
      So stick with the PS5 + 65-inch C3 + Offline story driven single player games

    • @finraziel
      @finraziel День назад +7

      @@RedPillAlways 65 inch oled is a bit cumbersome to hold between my hands really...

    • @RedPillAlways
      @RedPillAlways День назад

      @finraziel mount it on something it works so much better

    • @fairphoneuser9009
      @fairphoneuser9009 День назад +1

      ​@@RedPillAlwaysYeah, like on a slave!

    • @squelching
      @squelching 23 часа назад

      @@RedPillAlways I see you're not very good at detecting jokes.

  • @eliadbu
    @eliadbu 2 дня назад +93

    Careful not to nick the plastic! You will be charged for a screen replacement if you warranty your device for joystick replacement.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 2 дня назад +2

      You can just replace the joysticks yourself

    • @user-s8jb3qb6y
      @user-s8jb3qb6y 2 дня назад

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271 YOU can do it for everyone so no-one has to waste their own time and money on it.

    • @eliadbu
      @eliadbu 2 дня назад +13

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271 why should you if it's under "warranty" ?

    • @clownavenger0
      @clownavenger0 2 дня назад

      @@eliadbu its faster i guess.

    • @Hathos9
      @Hathos9 День назад

      ​@@eliadbu Because it is easily upgradeable and you might want hall effect joysticks.

  • @drewnewby
    @drewnewby 2 дня назад +55

    I've heard Rich say "rog" so many times, I'd forgotten it's R O G, according to Asus. We've got ourselves a Nvidia Ti situation here.

    • @damianabregba7476
      @damianabregba7476 2 дня назад +1

      They are wrong

    • @fireaza
      @fireaza 2 дня назад +5

      @@damianabregba7476 Where's the confusion? "Ti" is obviously pronounced as "Ti".

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 2 дня назад

      I think you are splitting hairs here as Socom means The United States Special Operations Command

    • @Radek494
      @Radek494 2 дня назад +3

      ​​@@fireazaSome Nvidia engineer was saying "Tie" in official videos 😂

    • @spiritualantiseptic
      @spiritualantiseptic 2 дня назад +1

      It hints to Rogue, doesn't it?

  • @graveyarddead753
    @graveyarddead753 2 дня назад +8

    In your next benchmark video I’d love to see you guys test Baldur’s Gate 3 in Act 3 on both the original and X.
    Hopefully the speed and capacity increase helps with frame times there.

  • @DavidAddis
    @DavidAddis День назад +5

    I'm always happy to see improved, ahem, "Frame Health/Consistency"!

  • @ChristopherToro
    @ChristopherToro 2 дня назад +14

    I find it weird that there are so many restrictions with ROG Ally X overviews…

    • @bunglepanda
      @bunglepanda День назад +6

      Because ASUS are charging £250-300 more and your realistically going to get an additional 1-3fps in games.
      Pre-orderw aren't doing very well and they don't want it to get worse

    • @veridiux
      @veridiux День назад +1

      This isn't new... This happens with every tech device out there. They send devices out for influencers to test them, but they use the NDA to prevent people from putting any real information. The problem is during this phase the device is constantly changing. Performance may increase or even decrease, it's not the final product.

    • @jorismak
      @jorismak День назад +1

      ​@@bunglepandasince it was never announced to be faster , I'm pleasantly surprised by the improvements the ram brings.

    • @bunglepanda
      @bunglepanda День назад +2

      ​@@jorismakyes, but not worth an extra £300!!! That's insane

    • @ark_knight
      @ark_knight День назад +1

      @@bunglepanda just wait for it to drop.

  • @DigiDonkey
    @DigiDonkey День назад +2

    I bought the OG Ally (extreme) the day they announced this. New battery and extra RAM was tempting, but I was able to pick a brand new one at half that UK price.

  • @YouCanCallMeMich
    @YouCanCallMeMich День назад +2

    I have the main 3 handhelds out there and my Legion Go will be more than enough before the SD2 comes out. Best handheld out there right now

    • @gonzo4891
      @gonzo4891 11 часов назад +1

      Hands down!

  • @battlepowered
    @battlepowered 2 дня назад

    I'm interested in seeing the Ally X set to Auto mode. With the current ROG Ally, it gets some of the best performance when set to Auto because it can fluctuate higher or lower than 8gb of 16gb as needed.. Now it's cooking with 24gb.

  • @kayser91
    @kayser91 День назад +1

    Thank you for this video and those nice "predictions" :p

  • @SENATORPAIN1
    @SENATORPAIN1 День назад +1

    If the switch 2 could run something like cyberpunk at a locked 30 medium graphics I'd be very happy for the switch 2s future.(Not saying cyberpunk should or would be on it but as a benchmark)

  • @IMZ44
    @IMZ44 День назад +4

    Here's a better question. Did they improve the customer service?

  • @tomkirbygreen
    @tomkirbygreen 4 дня назад +95

    After sales support… just saying.

    • @EBCHILL2
      @EBCHILL2 3 дня назад +8

      Yeah that's definitely a no deal for me

    • @Dr.D00p
      @Dr.D00p 2 дня назад +9

      In America, land of shit consumer protection laws...just saying.

    • @djtomoy
      @djtomoy 2 дня назад

      Don’t break it then

    • @vintageoriginallegit
      @vintageoriginallegit 2 дня назад +2

      What’s a better alternative cause all sales support sucks

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 2 дня назад

      Consumers (cattle) have no protections

  • @iisdashik
    @iisdashik 2 дня назад +3

    Any chance you guys could evaluate the Ally with the XG Mobile eGPU? I believe the Ally X lets use m,ore 3rd party eGPUs with thunderbolt so really keen how Ally vs Ally X looks with eGPU

    • @jorismak
      @jorismak День назад +1

      Xg mobile isn't really a realistic thing. They are seldom in stock, and crazy expensive for what you get (a mobile version of a gpu , with whiny fans for more than a 4090)

  • @thorocomments817
    @thorocomments817 4 дня назад +55

    I have an ally I’ve got less than a week to RMA, lol.

  • @jsullivan2112
    @jsullivan2112 День назад

    Looking pretty good! Still not quite there for me to buy one, mostly based on docked FPS performance, but it's promising. Maybe the next generation will be the one for me. I'll have to see what Valve has to offer with a Steam Deck 2 though.

  • @Inv4sorZ
    @Inv4sorZ 13 часов назад

    This will be my only hardware, along with a 7600m egpu and a Quest 3. Just hoping to see more PS exclusives coming to PC and it to hold VR and 1440p high properly.

  • @juanalvarado7794
    @juanalvarado7794 День назад +2

    Ill wait for the XXX version. Hopefully by then there is a real performance Boost 😉
    Shouldn't be long wait anyways since it seems they are releasing these things yearly

  • @GIGAFATTYMON
    @GIGAFATTYMON 2 дня назад +1

    There's bound to be a full upgrade, new chipset, memory, screen, etc, probably around the 2 year point, don't see any point upgrading until then.

  • @andyandy6525
    @andyandy6525 День назад

    What about 6gb VRam for Avatar? Could you check please if there is still winning difference between ally and ally x?
    Nice video, thank you!

  • @michaeldidikof634
    @michaeldidikof634 2 дня назад +8

    Very happy with my Rog Ally. Waiting for Ally 2

  • @CombatMonkey11B
    @CombatMonkey11B 2 дня назад

    I wonder when the embargo will lift? I expect an average of 5fps increase in most games, which is fine. What I really want are the battery tests to come out. Everything else can be easily judged based on 7840u handhelds…

  • @Killer-ne7cm
    @Killer-ne7cm 2 дня назад

    As a owner of the original Asus rog Ally with no issues can the battery be swap with the new one or is it different size?

    • @jorismak
      @jorismak День назад

      Different housing, different layout of internals , different battery. It's basically a design of the ally , focusing on room for battery.

  • @StrikerSenpai
    @StrikerSenpai 2 дня назад +92

    Staying away from ASUS for right now lol.
    Just bought a steam deck OLED!

    • @thedoomslayer108_YT
      @thedoomslayer108_YT 2 дня назад +9

      Their terrible customer service and forcing anyone to pay nearly $200 for a repair fee for the device's broken LCD panel and the top case, or sending it back broken, are unacceptable.
      I'm glad they're getting sued for their anti-consumer repair decisions.
      The Steam Deck OLED is an excellent choice. 👍

    • @vintageoriginallegit
      @vintageoriginallegit 2 дня назад +9

      But steam deck is so weak

    • @StrikerSenpai
      @StrikerSenpai 2 дня назад +5

      @@vintageoriginallegit I bought a ROG Ally at launch. First one came with a broken joystick.
      Second one was okay, but man I couldn’t stand the random things that would come up that made it janky at times.
      Don’t get me wrong, I love the way it looked and felt, plus the screen was awesome. However it just didn’t work out for me.
      Add on the rough support from ASUS, I’ll take less performance for better support along with excellent battery life for the games I’m going to play on it.

    • @StrikerSenpai
      @StrikerSenpai 2 дня назад

      @@thedoomslayer108_YT agreed. 👍
      Just bought a 512 OLED and going to get the Killswitch case from Dbrand!

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 2 дня назад

      How did you break the screen on your Ally?

  • @MansaMusa50
    @MansaMusa50 2 дня назад +1

    Was thinking of picking up a rog ally x, but wanted to see what microsoft have in store for their handheld first. I've got an Asus gaming laptop and have had no issues with it at all.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 2 дня назад

      It comes with gamepass... It is an Xbox handheld

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 2 дня назад +1

      Note PC gamepass sometimes lack certain features that the same PC game have in other stores. It crazy to think developers have to do extra work just to get dlss amd fsr support to work with gamepass on Windows. You can't even use remote play on Windows on gamepass.
      Microsoft major cash doesn't come from gaming and it shows.

    • @MansaMusa50
      @MansaMusa50 2 дня назад

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271 yeah just waiting for more info on it. It's needs to be able to play games downloaded on the device as well as cloud in my opinion.

    • @MansaMusa50
      @MansaMusa50 2 дня назад

      @@smidlee7747 yeah I've always thought that was both strange a s slightly annoying. The gamepass version is often not like the steam version.

  • @TaimatCR
    @TaimatCR 2 дня назад

    I'm really interested in the zotac one due to the oled screen, as a steam deck 2 seems a couple of years away

  • @thebham95
    @thebham95 2 дня назад +2

    love my ally, looking forward so much to the ally x. if you are a windows power user you can tweak this to be an insane handheld to dock experience. guara tee anyone would look at the way I configured my ally and think it the best handheld ever

    • @firstclaims30
      @firstclaims30 2 дня назад +1

      I love my Rog ally. Best handheld ever made.
      How did you configure yours ?

    • @hiramabiff604
      @hiramabiff604 2 дня назад

      Okay asus marketing director.

    • @thebham95
      @thebham95 2 дня назад

      @@firstclaims30 first I use ntlite to debloat windows of unnecessary bloatware or services (advanced tool so ease into it), then I use playnite for my frontend (customized myself via open source themes), rewasd so I can group ally gamepad with external gamepad for seamless docking switch experience(allows for more intricate mapping between various platforms and macros) , intelligent memory cleaner to keep memory free as possible. also I only use armoury crate to set game profiles for each dock and handheld profile for performance tdp usage. I love booting up my ally on my TV using a dual shock 3 to play my PS1/2 emulated games, then pull the out of dock and seamlessly go in right into handheld play.
      in playnite I've customized hundreds of games to have perfectly scaled and performance backgrounds, logos, and icons, plugins to give me extra stats on home screens , boot into game screens. it looks and feels like professional switch PC experience

    • @thebham95
      @thebham95 2 дня назад

      @@hiramabiff604 nah just a genuine fan and enjoyer of the ally. my favorite tech device ever so far. been building and power using Windows PCs for over twenty years. this device been the dream and now it's a reality.

    • @tipsy634
      @tipsy634 8 часов назад

      its cool that you like your rog ally but you should not rush to get the upgraded version if asus are banning people from talking about how underwhelming it is

  • @Saif0412
    @Saif0412 День назад

    Waiting to full review and benchmarks but pretty the Rog Ally will be the best performing handheld so far.

  • @PeT__eR
    @PeT__eR День назад

    Bro , in Armory carte you Can select how much ram Should be used for each game

  • @BatteryBee
    @BatteryBee 2 дня назад +13

    Appreciate the testing, but ASUS can get in the bin. Their customer service record is atrocious.

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 2 дня назад

      If you were the customer, you wouldn't be called a consumer

    • @BatteryBee
      @BatteryBee 2 дня назад

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271 ASUS need the money from us "consumers" to do anything, which is why they scrambled so hard when Gamers Nexus broke the story about the mountain of warranty and customer service issues.

    • @jorismak
      @jorismak День назад +1

      Again, *taps the sign* , split the usa ,eu and other regions please. Completely different companies. Eu service and rma handling has been fine.

  • @ParadoxalDream
    @ParadoxalDream 2 дня назад +1

    I don't know if a native VRR screen for Switch 2 is a realistic expectation from Nintendo, but I'd sure like that very much.

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 2 дня назад

      VRR and OLED doesn't mix so well. Also the vast majority of gamers will not care about VRR while the difference with OLED can be seen.
      Nintendo doesn't seem to care to make their handheld for the tiny minority. I have no trouble docking my laptop with VRR to my 65" LCD TV (no VRR) in my bedroom and have a good time and not thinking about frame rate , VRR nor even how fruity the colors are. I do have a OLED TV but I still game a lot on my LCD TV. Even the cheap LCD TV looks good.

    • @Radek494
      @Radek494 2 дня назад

      ​@@smidlee7747Switch 2 is rumoured to be LCD not OLED

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 2 дня назад

      @@Radek494 My point was the average person would notice the difference between LCD from OLED more than VRR. Nintendo would go with OLED before they care about VRR.

    • @Radek494
      @Radek494 2 дня назад

      @@smidlee7747 Ah okay I see now

    • @ParadoxalDream
      @ParadoxalDream День назад

      @@smidlee7747 We're not even sure in the new system will have an OLED screen, the first leaks only mentioned LCD.

  • @GlassICE
    @GlassICE 2 дня назад

    Honestly i was expecting an OLED screen plus less bezels than the other factors which made more sense duo to steam and Nintendo released their own version of refresh handhelds with this option

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 2 дня назад

      It makes sense why they didn't go with OLED.
      OLED cost a lot of money to engineer which explains why Nintendo and Valve used OLED already engineered for tablets and phones. These screen are portrait and not landscape screens which meant no VRR. Ally fans preach VRR is a must. Portrait screen causes problem with older PC titles design to run landscape. Steam Deck has a work around due to Linux. Also VRR on OLED don't mix well sometimes causes flickering.

  • @kamikazilucas
    @kamikazilucas 2 дня назад

    once lpddr6 comes out is 10000 mt then we might get somewhere, also maybe a good ideal to have octo channel lol

  • @Tech2C
    @Tech2C 2 дня назад +18

    A VRAM benchmark video?

    • @MisterPikol
      @MisterPikol 2 дня назад

      huh ?

    • @selohcin
      @selohcin День назад +1

      What would he be benchmarking in such a video?

  • @gonzo4891
    @gonzo4891 2 дня назад +10

    I’ll comfortably wait for Legion Go 2 before I have upgrade my Legion Go.

    • @catch82
      @catch82 День назад +1

      Really hard to go back to a 7 inch display after using the Go since November. Hoping (at least) 8 inch screens become the norm. And they might, with Nintendo using an 8 inch display on the next Switch.

    • @gonzo4891
      @gonzo4891 12 часов назад

      @@catch82 facts! And allegedly, the Go even makes for an exceptional Switch in itself to enjoy your titles on its 8 inch screen! 😂

  • @darmawanhabib204
    @darmawanhabib204 День назад +3

    Looking at this my steam deck felt so ancient, I'm amazed by how fast handheld progressing

    • @fairphoneuser9009
      @fairphoneuser9009 День назад +1

      Well, this one still has the same APU as the "old" ROG Ally. It's "just" a refinement of it.

  • @lindseyhunt1090garageb
    @lindseyhunt1090garageb 2 дня назад +2

    when will benchmarks be released ?

  • @VizioN-Scope
    @VizioN-Scope 2 дня назад

    6:11 The power cable for the battery might be a problem if you want to put a heatsink on your SSD.
    There is not a lot of room there.

    • @jorismak
      @jorismak День назад +2

      In devices like this, you don't want to put an SSD in there that requires a heatsink anyway.

  • @ShroomAndGloomGaming
    @ShroomAndGloomGaming День назад

    Man I really want to pull the trigger on this one but I will kick myself if the Claw 8 AI matches or outperforms it. I want that 8inch vrr screen.

  • @kevinl3626
    @kevinl3626 2 часа назад

    Had an rog ally. It really sucked. My sd card slot stopped working, controller was not good, battery life was nothing like advertised, no dedicated dock, no kickstand. Sold it and went with a legion go and damn it’s great!

  • @WillySou
    @WillySou День назад

    Thanks 👍 I hope that was the last "Rog... I'm sorry ROG" joke though 😂

  • @V3ntilator
    @V3ntilator День назад +1

    I will stick with my Legion Go PC Handheld. It doesn't matter how good Steam OS is, because i need Windows on a handheld for many reasons including superior compatibility vs Steam OS. No game needs certification on Windows handhelds as they are basically handheld laptops.

  • @vanceg4901
    @vanceg4901 День назад

    Hope they increased the stick tension from the floppy 45 grams or so in the vanilla ROG.

  • @adaopavoni
    @adaopavoni 2 дня назад +4

    SD card placement still looks wrong, just by the vent again.

    • @jorismak
      @jorismak День назад

      It never was a heat issue...

  • @randomgamer4610
    @randomgamer4610 День назад +2

    I guess this is the new DF under IGN 🤣🤣

  • @Cavscout101
    @Cavscout101 2 дня назад +15

    How long until we can just build our own handheld PC?

    • @KayleighBourquin
      @KayleighBourquin 2 дня назад +9

      Can we build laptops yet?

    • @mightyhadi6132
      @mightyhadi6132 2 дня назад +4

      Probably never , even building our own laptop is still not mass market still very expensive and from how GPU market price is still unstable. Bad times for PC gamers . For now i am stick to consoles

    • @officerminiwheats
      @officerminiwheats 2 дня назад +4

      A guy did it already with framework it's on RUclips

    • @KayleighBourquin
      @KayleighBourquin 2 дня назад

      @@officerminiwheats A guy, one guy, did it. Truly a universally accessible and easy to do thing that we'll all be using now. 🙄

    • @NeroVingian40
      @NeroVingian40 2 дня назад +1

      @@KayleighBourquinyou might want to check what Framework Laptop really is. You can change and customize virtually everything on the laptop on your own (save for the processor and screen), most components are built to be upgradeable. And they are already selling this.
      In the future, we might actually see a laptop that we can actually build by ourselves.

  • @DistinctionDino
    @DistinctionDino 2 дня назад +3

    Pretty excited for this I love the steam deck but sometimes it just doesn't fit the bill especially since I now have bazzite os dual booted on the my Rog ally almost my perfect portable pc gaming handheld.

  • @eggamyer3371
    @eggamyer3371 2 дня назад +5

    until games run at a minimum 60+ fps I'm holding out, but this is still incredible can't wait to see what comes next!

    • @jon....
      @jon.... День назад +5

      What does this mean? You're waiting for a handheld that can play new games at 60 FPS? Well you're going to be waiting perpetually because that is never going to happen.

    • @The_Cadaver
      @The_Cadaver День назад

      I'm still waiting for these companies to figure out a competent controller. They're basically glorified tablets strapped to MadCatz controllers at this point.

    • @steel5897
      @steel5897 День назад

      @@jon.... It can happen with frame generation, but that's about it. Battery life is the #1 problem, no doubt they'll want to solve that before they even think about increasing performance on modern games.

    • @cezarstefanseghjucan
      @cezarstefanseghjucan 23 часа назад +1

      @@jon....No one should buy stuff that don’t play game at 60 FPS.

    • @jon....
      @jon.... 21 час назад

      @@cezarstefanseghjucan Is 60 FPS the only thing you care about? Because there are a lot of unique qualities about portable gaming machines that make their performance basically irrelevant.

  • @Zer0_Space
    @Zer0_Space День назад +1

    FPS displayed in The Wrap Up section for SpiderMan 🤓

  • @LiteraryCurtastrophe
    @LiteraryCurtastrophe День назад +1

    I have the original, my SD card reader doesn't work, and even though the Ally X is exactly what I would have wanted from the start, the only way I'm dropping another grand on a handheld is if I win the lottery.
    I have too many of these handhelds already and not the income to justify it.
    Obviously my own problem, but also with Asus going from my favourite and most trusted hardware company to being completely skeptical to distrusting of them has really been disappointing

  • @malaki7123
    @malaki7123 2 дня назад

    So I have several questions for anyone that might have an answer: I've been thinking of getting an ROG Ally X for a bit now due to its portability and versatility. Specifically, I want to use it as a handheld (obviously), run it as a laptop of sorts for productivity complete with my own portable monitor, keyboard, and mouse, but also as a Steam streaming client for my living room TV, effectively turning it into a Switch. Of course, that means I'd need a dock, and there's my first question. Are there any docks that support HDMI 2.1? Would the Ally X be able to support the kind of bandwidth for that in the first place?
    Also, Rich's coverage on these devices has been excellent as usual, but I'm seeing a lot of focus on visual "tour de force" games on display. What about fighting games that demand 60 FPS to be playable? Has anyone tried running stuff like Tekken 8, Street Fighter 6 and the like on an Ally? Granted I'm sure with proper settings, these systems could steamroll over them and I could admittedly just look around, but I thought I'd ask.

    • @Leap623
      @Leap623 День назад +1

      Can't speak to the docks, but the Steam Deck can run SF6/Tekken 8 just fine at 60 as long as you're willing to turn settings/resolution down. So I'm sure the Ally can too.

  • @X862go
    @X862go День назад

    I love the ally!

  • @ToGrimmToWin
    @ToGrimmToWin 16 часов назад

    Wrong you forgot that the MSI claw shares the same vrr screen as the Ally

  • @tracyclements1467
    @tracyclements1467 2 дня назад

    If u have a Legion Go or Rog Ally X then u really don't have to get the 2nd generation of them. You can upgrade years after. Why, because we have FSR3 and Lossless Scailing. Since we have those, that can stretch the need to upgrade.

  • @criticalgeek3914
    @criticalgeek3914 2 дня назад

    In sweden you get an oled 512gb steam deck for the price of the z1 extreme and the legion go (around 1000 USD, we got environmental taxes on electronics).
    But since we still can order from valve directly and pay 549 USD for the Oled, You cant beat the price to quality. Not even close.

    • @firstclaims30
      @firstclaims30 2 дня назад +2

      Rog ally is next level compared to the steamdeck. Better than a steamdeck in pretty much everything

  • @madmardigan3321
    @madmardigan3321 2 дня назад

    Awesome stuff. I'm keen for a Hand-held with a screen atleast 7.5" in size, vrr etc. Hope we see one next year. I love seeing the iterations and how Hand-held gaming has come back and it's just the beginning...

    • @ETophales
      @ETophales День назад

      Why not the Legion Go then?

    • @madmardigan3321
      @madmardigan3321 День назад

      @@ETophales DF just said the ROG Ally is the only one with VRR

    • @eyalteler5349
      @eyalteler5349 День назад

      @@madmardigan3321 Sorry, missed your VRR requirement. Maybe because it was in small letters. :)

  • @VeegovonDOOM
    @VeegovonDOOM 2 дня назад +3

    Pre-ordered!!!

  • @mikelujanable
    @mikelujanable 2 дня назад +3

    My nintendo swith only once ever ran low on batteries. That was on a cross country flight with a long layover.

  • @Gingerlion777
    @Gingerlion777 День назад +1

    And next year they release another one.. don't get me wrong! I like my ally. But I like the way steam does things better! Release something and actually stick with it and work on it! We really need to stop the (release a new device every year) trend! It's consumerism at its finest! The strategy with this is that we hold back stuff for the next device next year.. instead of making a device the best it can be! Because they want it to last a couple years.

  • @TheAngryGoat91
    @TheAngryGoat91 Час назад

    Asus should of made two models like the originals for people who don't want to spend the full $800 on a handheld system. Ally x 1tb z1 extreme $799
    Ally x 1tb z1 non extreme $649

  • @matjakobs8612
    @matjakobs8612 День назад

    Cannyou take a look at the 120hz mode of dragons dogma 2 please.

  • @dannypassion
    @dannypassion День назад

    Writing on update thats why benchmarking won't make scenes to talk about it now..

  • @ViolenceCity
    @ViolenceCity День назад

    That price is crazy.

  • @mehrab4k148
    @mehrab4k148 18 часов назад

    Please test AMD FSR 3.1 with FG on Xbox , pc , Steam Deck and Rog ally .also compare FSR 3.0.4 with FSR 3.1

    • @Radek494
      @Radek494 5 часов назад

      There's no FSR 3.1 games on Xbox right now. Only 5 games on PC

  • @X862go
    @X862go День назад

    YES!

  • @overwatch761
    @overwatch761 День назад +3

    Meh, more than happy with my OG Steam Deck LCD model until the next gen.

  • @mantequilla93
    @mantequilla93 2 дня назад

    Considering the price to performance ratio and the hardware support, would you recommend Lenovo Legion Go or waiting for the ROG ALLY X? I am planning to buy one but not sure on the choice

  • @life-is-a-game-we-play
    @life-is-a-game-we-play День назад

    I'm waiting for the Real Asus Rog Ally 2

  • @jackcrouse6530
    @jackcrouse6530 День назад +3

    Tech channels should stop accepting this bs. Show our device but actually don't show it. Yes you are free to talk about it but don't talk about it.

  • @baked7423
    @baked7423 12 часов назад

    if this had an OLED it would be a steal

  • @mateusvilela8129
    @mateusvilela8129 2 дня назад +2

    We need fsr 3.1 testing, dlss no longer a selling point is a big deal

    • @fillerbunnyninjashark271
      @fillerbunnyninjashark271 2 дня назад

      No, we don't need sub native resolution games. We need optimized games

    • @mateusvilela8129
      @mateusvilela8129 2 дня назад +2

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271 speak for yourself, upscaling tech is important wether you like it or not

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 2 дня назад +1

      @@fillerbunnyninjashark271upscaling is here to stay and it’s not bad at all especially when you have a smaller display or a large display with a high resolution

    • @jorismak
      @jorismak День назад +1

      Alex said he wanted to do a video about it, but they had to finish ongoing projects first.

    • @mateusvilela8129
      @mateusvilela8129 День назад

      @@jorismak shame, its going to take a while then

  • @lewis9973
    @lewis9973 5 часов назад +1

    ANNND the SteamDeck OLED is still the best option... awkward.

  • @captaincrunch7944
    @captaincrunch7944 День назад

    i guess the real question is who would buy the original knowing that it has half the battery life half the memory

  • @arthur17718
    @arthur17718 2 дня назад +1

    also, dont put any game that is over 30gb on an microsd card, it won't work, you'll only get 2 frames per second.

  • @repayne
    @repayne День назад +5

    The biggest problem with Windows handhelds ist still Windows OS. It is a resource hog, uses a non gamepad friendly UI and has abyssmal battery management.

  • @OverloadPrinciple
    @OverloadPrinciple 2 дня назад +1

    Owning the OG Ally you would think ASUS would want reviewers to speak about performance considering that's the only reason to upgrade. Guess I just won't upgrade lol

  • @SpikePulse
    @SpikePulse День назад +1

    That's rediculous, send a review unit to DIGITAL FOUNDRY and don't allow them to benmark it

  • @Kev84M
    @Kev84M 2 дня назад +42

    Would never consider a handheld without Touchpads after using deck.

    • @ralphengland8559
      @ralphengland8559 2 дня назад +4

      That was my fear in buying the Ally. But so far, the lack of touch pads hasn't been a problem for the games I'm playing.

    • @kylerclarke2689
      @kylerclarke2689 2 дня назад +9

      The problem is how often you have to interact with the desktop and how intrinsically inconvenient sticks are for that.

    • @user-s8jb3qb6y
      @user-s8jb3qb6y 2 дня назад +3

      Some people can't go without trackpads and some never touch them!
      I wish there were two SKUs of the Deck, one with touchpads and one without that's not as wide.

    • @FierroSev
      @FierroSev 2 дня назад +6

      ​@kylerclarke2689 it is touchscreen.

    • @vintageoriginallegit
      @vintageoriginallegit 2 дня назад +3

      Steam deck is trash power now

  • @BrianWood74
    @BrianWood74 2 дня назад +6

    It's ASUS, that's all I need to know.

  • @danielhernanalonso7219
    @danielhernanalonso7219 2 дня назад

    An ally X review without an ally x

  • @juno1597
    @juno1597 День назад

    Hopefully this version last longer than a month before needing RMA.

  • @user-se1ro4sy4z
    @user-se1ro4sy4z День назад +1

    I hope you guys will make eventually an analysis on a recent beyond good and evil remaste4

  • @AndreAckermann
    @AndreAckermann 2 дня назад

    I see no benches marked here

  • @richardhadley8214
    @richardhadley8214 2 дня назад +1

    I liked both the Legion Go and the Rog Ally but I was constantly nursing that battery consumption like a baby and it kinda of nuked the pc handheld experience for me. I did owe the steam deck oled and it was an awesome piece of kit I just wished it had a little bit more grunt and it would of been king 👑 I’ve preordered the Ally X so hopefully the window handheld experience will be a lot more better if not then I’m gonna put steam os on it instead.

  • @KevinTheSpeedster5000
    @KevinTheSpeedster5000 2 дня назад

    I have mk1 on switch(worse graphics) and ps5. However I play on switch more because I enjoy portability. Am I crazy? lol

    • @Ghostsonplanets
      @Ghostsonplanets День назад

      No. Play wherever you feel like it suits your life the best. If you're happy, why change.

  • @Playerz714
    @Playerz714 День назад +1

    Fk this company the fact they still dont publicly admit the design issue with the SD Card heat issue is insane

    • @rodriguezkev
      @rodriguezkev День назад +1

      Yup, moved it with the new one but made sure it was known that it had nothing to do with the design flaw of the first one. Were supposed to believe it was moved due to space constraints 😂😂

  • @jake..A
    @jake..A 2 дня назад +2

    All they needed was to add an oled screen & this would have been the best handheld device on the market currently.

    • @ferdgerbeler8494
      @ferdgerbeler8494 2 дня назад +3

      Naw, still has the ASUS name on it, making it one of the worst.

    • @prestin5304
      @prestin5304 2 дня назад +2

      I'd say it IS the best handheld device on the market spec wise and arguably the best performer. At the moment I'm waiting on what Lenovo does with GO Lite thats rumored. But the Ally X sure looks like the best performer with the the faster ram and added 8gb. Buttery smooth

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 2 дня назад

      @@ferdgerbeler8494still has much better support than the Legion Go

  • @BurningWereWolf
    @BurningWereWolf 2 дня назад

    I would like to buy a pc handheld. But I have no idea which one. Rog ally x, legion go, or steam deck.

    • @crestofhonor2349
      @crestofhonor2349 2 дня назад

      I’d go Ally X or Steam Deck OLED

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 2 дня назад +1

      Legion Go has a bigger screen which is an advantage with some PC games. Deck has the track pads using for mapping hotkeys and mouse controls. Ally X if all you want to play in triple A titles designed for controllers.

    • @BurningWereWolf
      @BurningWereWolf День назад

      @@smidlee7747 I want the best possible experience. I like to play fighting, RPG and adventure games. Maybe I will emulate a lil bit.

    • @BurningWereWolf
      @BurningWereWolf День назад

      @@crestofhonor2349 both screens look fantastic.

    • @ETophales
      @ETophales День назад

      @@BurningWereWolf IMO, from using a GPD WIN 4, which has a 6" screen, text heavy RPGs are a problem on the small screen. Maybe 7" is enough of a step up, but the Legion Go has an advantage here. Then again, if the RPGs you play aren't those with lots of small text on the screen, then maybe it's not a problem. (For example, I played Persona 5 Royal and that was totally fine.)

  • @nicolasbonvarlet338
    @nicolasbonvarlet338 2 дня назад +1

    The OLED screen is really a big missed opportunity. Guess the battery life would have been even better with it :/

    • @MicaelAzevedo
      @MicaelAzevedo День назад +1

      You either choose Oled or VRR. A true gamer chooses VRR.

    • @nicolasbonvarlet338
      @nicolasbonvarlet338 День назад

      @@MicaelAzevedo why not both ? And what is a "true gamer" ?

    • @jorismak
      @jorismak День назад

      ​@@nicolasbonvarlet338because oled can't do vrr in a good way , without brightness flickering. And I think there simply had to be a panel available for them to buy, that they trust , and has the specs they want. The fact that the Steam Deck oled and the switch oled are using the exact same panel, shows that there isn't much to pick from in that size / form factor.

    • @rhysjones8506
      @rhysjones8506 День назад

      ​@@MicaelAzevedonah it depends. If you have the best pc money can buy. You don't need vrr as your pc can get you a good locked FPS. And in most games outside competitive after 120fps isn't it better to just get a better picture. A HDR oled screen can look absolutely amazing

    • @MicaelAzevedo
      @MicaelAzevedo День назад

      @@rhysjones8506 we are talking about handled devices lol

  • @thatoseale8973
    @thatoseale8973 2 дня назад

    I really wish Dell/Alienware and Razer could enter the handheld space. Alienware actually were the first to preview a pc handheld with the UFO but didn’t put it into production. What a shame cause they actually have decent support unlike ASUS.

  • @smoothlyrough512
    @smoothlyrough512 2 дня назад +18

    Not letting bench marks or is shady. What they hiding? I'd it was good, you'd WANT people knowing this. This kills my hype big time

    • @ninele7
      @ninele7 2 дня назад +2

      They want all channels to have enough time to do benchmarks and release them at the same time, so when benchmarks are available you can understand bigger picture looking at multiple reviews.

    • @FSAPOJake
      @FSAPOJake 2 дня назад +2

      We already know how the original Ally performs. This will be the exact same except for a lower chance of a RAM bottleneck.

    • @thebham95
      @thebham95 2 дня назад

      because more vram. is not going to give you that much of a fps boost in many scenarios. what it will allow is for more games to be compatible at base level

    • @firstclaims30
      @firstclaims30 2 дня назад

      They did the same with the og ally kid

    • @MrNelahem
      @MrNelahem День назад

      @@ninele7 they are also probably still working on firmware tweaks.

  • @Marilda_Renz62
    @Marilda_Renz62 2 дня назад

    A wonderful video. There aren't that many thumbs up that I want to show here...👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

  • @korinogaro
    @korinogaro 23 часа назад

    Looks nice but ASUS customer support and their RMA processes stop me from buying anything from them.

  • @squelching
    @squelching 2 дня назад +5

    Hmm, I think I'll stick to me Steam Deck OLED. I only really play AA and smaller games, so it's pretty much perfect. AAA games very rarely interest me.

    • @smidlee7747
      @smidlee7747 2 дня назад

      Also it seems there are going to be less triple A titles in the near future. They are getting too long and expensive to develop making them too risky.

    • @squelching
      @squelching 2 дня назад

      @@smidlee7747 I certainly hope so. It's very rare I'm impressed by anything high budget nowadays.