@@ZReviews true. But don't forget that XLR sort of smooths out the noise floor. Balanced topology noise floor is inherently higher that one made for single ended. So XLR gives you a overall higher noise floor that is consistent. Single ended gives you a lower noise floor with less consistency.
@Frank Winkhorst Wasn't sure if I heard Z correctly in the vid but I thought he said something about "Greek" mythology when referencing, toward end of his vid, the hard-to-pronounce names.
You can also use the line level outs of the Mjolnir as a preamp for powered speakers, or an outboard stereo amp, or dual mono blocks pushing unpowered/passive speakers.
Zeos, I need to hear it from you. I plan on getting the Gungnir Multibit this week. Is the Mjolnir a good route for powering my HD 600’s and 660 S’? I will likely get nice planars in the near future as well, but I am hoping to stop at one amp that does all with a tube-ish sound.
I should have mentioned, I currently have a Jotunheim Multibit and I got a Modi 2 after the fact for use with a Nintendo Switch. I am satisfied with the sound of the Multibit DAC’s over the DS in the Modi, so that’s why I am getting the Multibit version of the Gungnir. I love the power and sound of the Jotunheim but it is so revealing (not exaggerated) that artists like Eva Cassidy are harsh because of the recordings themselves. I love certain artists that require a little more of a smoother, warmer sound. So I want to eliminate the most digital-ness that I can but without any compromise for the imaging and detail that I desire. By research the GungnirMB seems like it will have an impact on that to give me the sound I want, but a hybrid tube amp (which conveniently matches the Gungnir) seems like it may help even more, and if it overall has a better sound specifically for my HD 600’s and 660’s then it’s the answer to my prayers and what I need. Otherwise I was considering holding out to get a balanced Woo Audio amp but that costs a lot more than I was hoping for, so at least for a good while the Mjolnir will do what I want. That of course is assuming it will give me those sound characteristics.
Are you going to get a Mjolnir 3 and review it at any point? There's a severe lack of videos about it even after a year or so of it being out and most people say it's absolutely fantastic.
Mjolnir 2. It's the much better amp. For something more like the darkvoice's sound I recommend the tor Roger or nick. Or a bottlehead crack. The darkvoice is cheap for a reason. It's not built that well and has hum problems and the circuit is not very complete.
Great Review Z. I have the HD800s and im planning to buy the Gungnir Dac & the Mjolnir 2 for its versatility...Will the Mjolnir 2 complement well with the HD800s. Ive read reviews that this is a bright setup, but perhaps warmer tubes would help tone down the brightness?
krazybonnie 55 ordered yesterday , received today. Not sold at all but, hey, 10 euros... incredible. Prerequisites: iPad or any android or windows modded to output 1V at min to really shine. It Woke up my headphones!
It 's Norse mythology. In Greece we don't have Thor, we have Zeus, who didn't need a hammer (Mjölnir) to throw a lightning bolt: he used his bare hands.
@@mc365mc True. Variations of the name of the particular god are attested in both Old English (Thuner/Thunor) and Old High German (Donar), so he most definitely was part of the common Germanic pantheon before the North Germanic and West Germanic tribes parted ways, but... actual narratives with Thor are attested only in the Old Norse (Old Icelandic) corpus.
Power conditioners are life savers in some situations. Sometimes it is a printer that does not behave, or a computer crashing, or the mic preamp doind something odd to phantom power. Does not have to cost a ton, does not have to be 19" rackmount with racklights and ABB circuit breaker, just has to be at ones disposal for troubleshooting.
Good timing. Currently in the market for a new Amp and DAC to replace my Creative SoundBlaster X7. So many choices out there. Was considering this set up from Schitt or the Questyle CMA 12 or if the Drop THX AAA comes back within the next month or so. As for headphones, I have the HD600 and plan on getting the LCD-2C or the Ether CX from Drop.
The Mjolnir is fantastic. I would run and hide from Questyle products because their customer service is utter ass(my unit has been there for over 3 months and I haven't heard back in 2 months). If you're looking for a tube amp for planars, this is for you
They aren't the same thing at all. This is if you want tubes for hard to drive planars. If you only have dynamics the 789/darkvoice could be better, I personally only have planars and this is an amazing combination.
I think he just listens to anything that is well recorded, I think he said that somewhere. Honestly I'm starting to get like that too where I am enjoying music I never would have before.
Z Reviews I know it’s tough to compare unless directly done so, but would you say the Mjolnir is more impressive for powering the HD 600’s than the Jotunheim was?
Have you heard both? Currently on the market and I know prices are different but.. Mjolnir 2, Liquid Platinum and iCan pro are my top picks. Kinda considering Bottlehead SEX too
Zeos is being lazy. Here is a link explaining how balanced cables work. ruclips.net/video/leTqWEZeVM4/видео.html Do I see an Xduoo TA-20? That's Zeos for you...butchering company names...butchering mythologies.
I hope one day you are able to review Cayin's Monstruous HA-300 Amp. en.cayin.cn/products_info?itemid=112 10W per Channel Single-ended into 32 Ohms. Or their Giant Killer (after tube rolling) legendary HA-1AKM2 en.cayin.cn/products_info?itemid=89
Upvote for Zeos to get full-sized creepy mannequins to use as headphone stands for no reason whatsoever
Id rather get this one amzn.to/2Yd2aOK
Do it zeos
Or a Real Doll.... HAHAH
@@ZReviews Earth calling Doctor Who - Help the mannequins have Zeos!
Z Reviews
Upvote for Zeos to just use people standing there as headphone stands
XLR, you get the noise, in all the wires, when the wires come back together, the noise is out of phase and cancels itself out! Or something like that.
This.
@@ZReviews true. But don't forget that XLR sort of smooths out the noise floor. Balanced topology noise floor is inherently higher that one made for single ended. So XLR gives you a overall higher noise floor that is consistent. Single ended gives you a lower noise floor with less consistency.
The way he caresses the cables it gives me the tingles
its pronounced "gondhfgdjksbvjyer" obviously
OMG the Arya's! I can't wait to hear your thoughts!
It's a beautiful piece of equipment.
Norse mythology maybe?
@Frank Winkhorst Wasn't sure if I heard Z correctly in the vid but I thought he said something about "Greek" mythology when referencing, toward end of his vid, the hard-to-pronounce names.
@@worstwriter yes, he indeed said "greek mythology" but since it`s Zeos we`re talking about he`s probably just trolling :D.
You can also use the line level outs of the Mjolnir as a preamp for powered speakers, or an outboard stereo amp, or dual mono blocks pushing unpowered/passive speakers.
Zeos, I need to hear it from you. I plan on getting the Gungnir Multibit this week.
Is the Mjolnir a good route for powering my HD 600’s and 660 S’? I will likely get nice planars in the near future as well, but I am hoping to stop at one amp that does all with a tube-ish sound.
I should have mentioned, I currently have a Jotunheim Multibit and I got a Modi 2 after the fact for use with a Nintendo Switch. I am satisfied with the sound of the Multibit DAC’s over the DS in the Modi, so that’s why I am getting the Multibit version of the Gungnir.
I love the power and sound of the Jotunheim but it is so revealing (not exaggerated) that artists like Eva Cassidy are harsh because of the recordings themselves. I love certain artists that require a little more of a smoother, warmer sound. So I want to eliminate the most digital-ness that I can but without any compromise for the imaging and detail that I desire.
By research the GungnirMB seems like it will have an impact on that to give me the sound I want, but a hybrid tube amp (which conveniently matches the Gungnir) seems like it may help even more, and if it overall has a better sound specifically for my HD 600’s and 660’s then it’s the answer to my prayers and what I need. Otherwise I was considering holding out to get a balanced Woo Audio amp but that costs a lot more than I was hoping for, so at least for a good while the Mjolnir will do what I want. That of course is assuming it will give me those sound characteristics.
No, the JDS Labs Atom is cheaper and likely orders of magnitude cleaner. It also has more than enough power for those HP's
@@clownworldresidentii5184 While I don't subscribe to highly distorting tubes providing superior sound, OP asked about tube amps, not solid state.
@@sswpp8908 okay in that case I would recommend the project Polaris amp, which is designed to simulate a tube
Are you going to get a Mjolnir 3 and review it at any point? There's a severe lack of videos about it even after a year or so of it being out and most people say it's absolutely fantastic.
z please tell me you tried them with Argons.. Did they sound eeeeuaghh?
8 watts per channel? hey lads, you wanna go deaf quick!
*WHAT? I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE BLOOD IN MY EARS*
dt880 600ohm: are you sure about that
i’ve got a T1 which is 600ohm. Do u think i should go with darkvoice or mjolnir?
Mjolnir 2. It's the much better amp. For something more like the darkvoice's sound I recommend the tor Roger or nick. Or a bottlehead crack. The darkvoice is cheap for a reason. It's not built that well and has hum problems and the circuit is not very complete.
Where is the link for your Patreon?
I also want Arya on my head. Not season 1 Arya, since tubeamps are not allowed in jail.
Great Review Z. I have the HD800s and im planning to buy the Gungnir Dac & the Mjolnir 2 for its versatility...Will the Mjolnir 2 complement well with the HD800s. Ive read reviews that this is a bright setup, but perhaps warmer tubes would help tone down the brightness?
Zeos, u should review the apple usb c to 3.5mm adapter
gosh tier audio
krazybonnie 55 ordered yesterday , received today. Not sold at all but, hey, 10 euros... incredible. Prerequisites: iPad or any android or windows modded to output 1V at min to really shine. It Woke up my headphones!
@@ambrius modded to output 1V?
We love you zeos!
Gib Hugs
Thor's hammer paired with Odin's spear. Good combo.
It 's Norse mythology. In Greece we don't have Thor, we have Zeus, who didn't need a hammer (Mjölnir) to throw a lightning bolt: he used his bare hands.
Thor is actually Germanic and made his way north west through Scandinavia to Ice Land by way of conquest.
Thor had powers much before getting the hammer.
Kris Moodley That’s Comic books not mythology.
@@mc365mc True. Variations of the name of the particular god are attested in both Old English (Thuner/Thunor) and Old High German (Donar), so he most definitely was part of the common Germanic pantheon before the North Germanic and West Germanic tribes parted ways, but... actual narratives with Thor are attested only in the Old Norse (Old Icelandic) corpus.
@@mc365mc True for Loki. The son-of-Odin status for him is "artistic license" on the part of Marvel Comics...
Can you please tell me what tubes did you settle on for the Dark Voice?
Nick Mihalcea Same here, would like to know which tubes...
Power conditioners are life savers in some situations.
Sometimes it is a printer that does not behave, or a computer crashing, or the mic preamp doind something odd to phantom power.
Does not have to cost a ton, does not have to be 19" rackmount with racklights and ABB circuit breaker, just has to be at ones disposal for troubleshooting.
What are the name of the replacement tubes
Audeze mx3? Zeos let slip a unreleased product.
MX4. I dumb
Are you going to cover that power stuff on the left?
Its there mostly for looks (under $200 for everything) but also a decent power conditioner for RMAF..
20:58 Well according to RUclips it's spelled: boo there
lol I wanted to write this too.
Funny how the first, second and third ones aren't CCed. Guess youtube surrendered to the forth one.
As a noob, please recommend balanced wires from mjolnir2 to my hd650, focal elear, mc1060c. Completely lost
Z, I wish for some wisdom! Who do I get a decent balanced cable from? I am worried about ordering random cable from amazon. Sennheiser 650.
Axelpanic Try Periapt cable
Periapt cables are amazing.
Good timing. Currently in the market for a new Amp and DAC to replace my Creative SoundBlaster X7. So many choices out there. Was considering this set up from Schitt or the Questyle CMA 12 or if the Drop THX AAA comes back within the next month or so. As for headphones, I have the HD600 and plan on getting the LCD-2C or the Ether CX from Drop.
The Mjolnir is fantastic. I would run and hide from Questyle products because their customer service is utter ass(my unit has been there for over 3 months and I haven't heard back in 2 months). If you're looking for a tube amp for planars, this is for you
Great review good stuff . Between the 789 vs Mjolnir which one do you recommend to drive Sennheiser HD800s. Thanks in advance
Im curious how the Mjolnir 2 & the HD800s will complement as well.
Mjolnir vs THX AAA 789? Thinking you can get both the Dark Voice and the THX AAA 789 for less than the Mjolnir.
They aren't the same thing at all. This is if you want tubes for hard to drive planars. If you only have dynamics the 789/darkvoice could be better, I personally only have planars and this is an amazing combination.
@@TommyFro kinda torn between Mjolnir and iCan pro. 75% planars here
where’s the rca cable link?
That's what I want to know David.
17:03 anyone know from what anime is that?
I know i am late, but thats madoka magica. its a good anime.
Did Z say ‘Rani Mukherjee’? You listen to Indian music too?
I think he just listens to anything that is well recorded, I think he said that somewhere. Honestly I'm starting to get like that too where I am enjoying music I never would have before.
Ragnarock 2?
Yer I'm curious about this too.
Mjölnir is from Norse mythology.
As is Gungnir, Odin's spear
Is the sound tubey? I mean does it get warmer? Can you hear the reverberations, the small echoes typical for two tube amps?
yes. I would tell you if it didn't do its job
what kind of connectors do these cables use as the split? miniXLR?
my Final Audio D8000 sounded just fine on my darkvoice
Audeze MX3?
MX4 I bad
@@ZReviews Ye,
you better watch out buddy or else...
Anyone know how this or that stack compares to jotunheim?
Less compressed. Tube rolling capabilities. More power.
I don't like the Jot in 2019.. So there is that.
@z_reviews any recommendations for a replacement?
Ben10LeeTV check out his subreddit recs
Never mind, you got it. Hybrid.
Love you dude
Fine but no butt stuff.
Are you gonna do the dac review soon?
@@worabunromtrairut2880 ... is not love... but lust
Greek?
Yeaaaaaah but Mjolnir isn’t Greek mythology 😂
My Bad, Marvel Cinematic Universe Mythology.
@@ZReviews Das rite
Z Reviews AHHAHHAHAHA
Sound Amplitude increased by 1 Fortni(gh)te? Sign me up for 10!
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i thought the loves of zeo's for schiit had faded away... schiit is back!
using HD600 to test soundstage??? THE worst feature on that headphone
Exactly. So it's easy to tell when there's an improvement.
Yeah 600 on tube GET soundstage. Want to start at 0 and get to 10.. Instead of 40->45
Z Reviews I know it’s tough to compare unless directly done so, but would you say the Mjolnir is more impressive for powering the HD 600’s than the Jotunheim was?
ARGONS. Fuckn shack rattle n roll on the MJ2
I think the monolith liquid platinum is better hybrid
I do need to get one on my desk.
Have you heard both? Currently on the market and I know prices are different but.. Mjolnir 2, Liquid Platinum and iCan pro are my top picks. Kinda considering Bottlehead SEX too
it measures sub-par (audiosciencereview)
@@clownworldresidentii5184 didn't that get measured in SE on ASR?
@@Steadybeheady what does SE mean?
It's pronounced Mule-Near and Gung-near... Best I be the grammar nazi so no one else has to be.
You are 2 thousand years too later, The Grammar Nazi was born during Life of Brian.
It's also Norse mythology, not Greek.
@@DanielIsaacs Not important. Pronounciation is more important.
Baby gate......... baby crib?
Z! You want to tell us something?
Output transformers or bust! :)
3 ply stack.
Zeos is being lazy. Here is a link explaining how balanced cables work. ruclips.net/video/leTqWEZeVM4/видео.html
Do I see an Xduoo TA-20?
That's Zeos for you...butchering company names...butchering mythologies.
Anything is called a HYBRID these days even Mounain bikes .
Sounds good to customers thats why
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OUWEH
I hope one day you are able to review Cayin's Monstruous HA-300 Amp.
en.cayin.cn/products_info?itemid=112
10W per Channel Single-ended into 32 Ohms.
Or their Giant Killer (after tube rolling) legendary HA-1AKM2
en.cayin.cn/products_info?itemid=89
John Mayer
"Tubeish" not "Tubelike."
uwah
Lmao how garbage disposals work.
Ewwwaaah
yägh
That amp looks likes shit.
first!!!
Obnoxious dude