REDUCING TENSION in Chopin Etude in C minor, Op.25 No.12 ("Ocean" Etude)
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2020
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4:22 you play those arpeggios like it is nothing lmao, Josh is the Sensei
I hope this helps those of you who are studying this piece, or any other piece with similar figurations. I wish you all the best for another great week of practicing!
Do you recommend an exercise or a book to practice these arpeggios?
Josh Wright
Beethoven’s Piano Sonata No. 14 (Op. 27 No. 2), 3rd Movement
MA P There’s a full tutorial video based on this piece (Chopin’s Op.25 No.12) along with many other pieces in Dr. Wright’s ProPractice video series. You can also check out his ProPractice technique series for more tips about practicing arpeggios/scales/triads/7th chords in all 12 keys.
Here’s a few more links to other videos discussing arpeggios in this channel:
ruclips.net/video/9QUnl-HeZ0c/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/LofJ_Lgdei4/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/ZRAyRFAzPQE/видео.html
Pooya Hadavi Dr.Wright? Doctor , hahahaha...
@@mackiceicukice whats funny?
like a squid?
Rachmaninoff: I thought everyone has a pair of squid-like hands...lol
Mr Wright has upgraded the audio and lesson to his ability! Im impressed
Your Chopin interpretations are my favorite on youtube. Your playing is very lyrical and expressive. I hope you perform this one.
The sound quality is really good! - having separate mics for your voice and for the piano. And loving the suave look in these videos😎. Great tips for keeping hands relaxed in playing; all too often pianists have wayy too much tension, and coupled with hours and hours of practice everyday, long-term leads to really serious injuries and problems so building good habits early is super important. For your piano sound, how do you place the mics? Are they close together or far apart and are they inside the piano (close to the strings)?
I love the "no bones" metaphor. That really is what it feels like to play without tension. My best teacher of technique used say the fingers should feel like jello.
JOSH THANK you in general for doing youtube i really love your personality and can listen to you for hours !!!!
Would love to see more videos about Chopin etudes, Josh. I have been playing for a long time but find the etudes so intimidating. As someone with a BM in Piano Performance, it is embarrassing to say I have not fully played one Chopin etude. Have a great week!
I am always so amazed and touched by how much you do for your students in the youtube piano community. Your wisdom and teachings help us out so much already, and now you have invested what I'm sure was a significant sum to make the lessons sound even better. The stereo sound is fantastic. Very rare to find someone on youtube with a setup of this quality. Thanks so much for everything you do!
Wow the audio quality is remarkable, and so is the teaching - as always :)
4:22 jeez i need the full recording from you now
And I'm currently learning this one! This is incredible! Thanks Josh
We love all of your productions!this Chopin is the perfect example for teaching hand rotations!!!
Hi Josh last time I left a comment to say that the sound was a little odd, but here I must say that its very very nice to hear ! Thanks for all this work you give us with passion !
I've watch your videos through the years, I think you are a great pianist, and also a great teacher, I just want to thank you for doing what you do!
liking the set up! immediately noticed the audio improvement through my headphones
those mkics on the piano change everything . beautiful sound
So great Josh the Crystal clarity of it is incredible!
Josh, such a nice and moving interpretation of this etude. I like your videos very much, and I work through your pro practice tips every day. My former Teacher (an unknown concert pianist who studied with Rubinstein) urged me to follow the natural hand positions, and to avoid tensions in all of my body parts.
Thank you so much for you "squid" and especially the rotation at 5-1 on ascent and 1-5 on descent -- I paused your video and went to the keyboard to work on your concepts as you introduced them and already one of the mistakes I make repeatedly (missing the g on descent of opening chord) was corrected by that descent wrist rotation. You've given me a great reference for the opening 8 bars of this piece to work on as standard for the rest.
Very good points Josh. My teacher taught me the importance of hand movements like rotation, swivel and avoiding any tension. He was a pupil of Ignaz Friedman.
The audio quality is AMAZING!!!
Thanks for the tips.
Thank you so much for uploading this videos. I’ve learned so much from your tutorials.
My favorite etude still thanks for another reminder/tutorial
beautifully played
You're playing sounds awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wonderful Josh, thank you.
Great sound improvement!
I really love the intro!!!
The new mic is fabulous!
The mics are excellent!!
Voice clarity is like on the radio. Good investment!
Josh is one of my inspirations. I always watch your vids and as self-taught pianist, your tips really helped in so many ways. I just created my youtube channel a month ago. I've just begun my journey,I know it's very long way to get there but I'll give all my best. I hope that someday people would appreciate my content too :)
Thanks for a very helpful video/tutorial 👍I’ve heard someone refer to this etude as “The Tennis Match” 😊
Voice audio is perfect here for me.
I am very much a beginner and the idea of reducing tension is something I struggle with. When I practice, I often get pain in my neck and across my shoulders and have to stop. It's really hard to know how to relax just certain parts of the body. I don't know how to relax my neck, say, or my fingers. Maybe this is something that will come as I learn more and feel more confidence. Right now, I have to concentrate so much that I think that makes me tense up. Anyway, I enjoy your videos, even though they are way, way beyond me at this point.
The new recorder is very nice!
Fun and great thought... squid-no bone 🤩thank you 🤗
cool. you teaches well.
New sound is great
I have the most surprising result with this etude my left hand is a virtuoso and plays through this easily and with all the notes distincts and relaxed but my right hand is much less good and not as relaxed (inverse to most people). My practice hands separate goes like this : working hard to progress the right hand 30 min then take a break by playing the left hand much faster than right hand relaxed no fatigue for 15 min. Then back to the right hand. It actually upsetting to see the left hand has so much ease. I try to transfer the technique i have in the left to the right but it's not that simple. I don't have the same sensations in the hand. So i am trying to develop them. I am left handed. And based on this video, i believe right hand people are playing a poor left hand version but cover it with a strong right hand.
I'm very new to piano and I find this and your wrist tension video extremely useful!
I won't be working on fast arpeggios for a while but I can still practice using my wrists more both when playing chords and broken chords and arpeggios.
The idea here is to not use your fingers to play these arpeggios, but to only move your fingers if the distance between keys changes?
The new mic's make a huge difference🙂
I also study this amazing etude. My goal in piano is to play this like Sokolov, seems impossible. This etude is one of the hardest and here is why, this etude requires to involve your whole body. This is etude for coordination. That's why it can be the most virtuosic piece ever written for piano, or one of them. To interpret this etude right is life-term thing. Thanks
It’s crazy how easy it is to sightread, but so difficult to interpret well... Much like many of chopin pieces
@@jacobhoover4393 exactly!
@@jacobhoover4393 you can sightread this at good speed? That's more insane than playing the piece correctly imo ^^
@@vincent-ataramaniko oh god no, I meant I can sight read it slowly😭
@@jacobhoover4393 ahaha we're in the same boat! But I bought the little preludes and fugues by Bach and I sight read at least one a day, without looking at my hands. I hope I'll make some progress! It also serves as a great warmup imo because Bach always has some scales in his pieces (and they're always beautiful). Sorry for that long text lol
I like the squid tip! Who knows maybe it will be the time I relax my hands! 😅
I took 3 months to learn this piece half tempo, is anyone else here who took that long to learn it?
Following Paul Barton's tutorial, along with playing arpeggios for warmup, helped me play this at 80bpm (half-tempo) in about a month
@@alexismandelias well I'm not playing for very long but thanks, I'll check it out
@@alexismandelias same basically, but when I finally managed to play with a really relaxed hand, I managed to go nearly instantly from 80 bpm to 120ish bpm with not that many wrong notes
@@VeigarEUW hahahaha obviously many of us have taken much longer or to the point of simply not even being able to play it. Three months is a short time I congratulate you this study is extremely difficult for both hands.
I'm in my first year of learning piano (😍😍wow you are awesome😍😍) and the rolling the hand and "squid" thing is already useful info for me!
For some reason it’s only my right forearm having huge fatigue after playing this, even though i’m right handed and have way more control with that hand. There’s definetly more tension bringing chords in the right hand though that might be it
How long did it take you to get at this level?
0:38 what is this called anyone know?
The biggest problem I have with this Étude is playing it at a fast tempo! Any tips? :) (Specifically for this Étude I mean, as I know many of your tips regarding speed)
Developing good technique is definitely key! #pianocoach
Wonderful as aways Josh. I cant understand why im so bad in downward moviments. Everything that is going down (scales, arpeggios, chords etc).
Sorry my english
Keep pushing Lee! Same with me...
@@iamdeandrefrench thank brow. We are going to overcome this 😊
Strange there's a lot of instructional videos on RUclips helping out with difficulties in the piano repertoire but years ago bad teaching or no teaching. No wonder children starting at five having a good teacher is bound to improve far quicker than an adult practicing on their own as there are so many blind alleys
Damn, 14 years old student can play that 😅 man I struggle with it and I’m playing piano for almost 10 years now…
Sound quality is really good, but your voice volume is a bit low. Piano volume is good though
Wow! The mic in the piano works very well. But, to my taste, the vocal is to low compared to the piano.
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Good ideas. What about a slower rhythm? Fast blurs my ears.
Josh made the mistake to limit his videos to only a sampler of the tutorial and asks to pay for the full video. This caused him to not get high suscribers count and views which would have paid him much more handsomely based on other youtube pianists.
You should just wear a headpiece that has a microphone (think stand up comedians), it only attaches to one side of the face but is plenty sufficient...
I disagree with the tradition on this etude to hold the first note and the top note of each arpeggio longer. It's not in the score and it's an excuse to simplify the etude. It does not sound good in my opinion, doing non stop arpegio is more difficult and more effective musically.
Maybe a microphone on your shirt would be good so it’s not in your way.
just play