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16:15 yeah, it was rushed, but, as an example: let's take Spider-Man. W/E was done to the spider that bit him, probably should have killed him. But it didn't. Same with Steve Rogers, Bruce Banner...WANDA....there's something LIKELY in their genes. MY personal theory.... X-Gene. I think some people only have one copy, and having that allows their body to change when exposed to something that SHOULD kill them. There's no sign of X-Men yet, or mutants in general, SO it could be arguable that people who become mutants have TWO copies of the X-Gene and during puberty or times of stress they get powers. Enhanced humans like Peter, Carol, Steve, Bruce, Wanda ect have just the one copy. 24:00 the Flerkin probably belonged to Mar-Vel. There's a lot of hand wavy, no explanation, stuff in this movie.
movie would flop if it wasn't between 2 best movies in the MCU
You may want to self assess that "they rushed this" you did not feel that way about quicksilver or wanda who were both made super just by touching the stone. She is a mutant in the comics though iirc.
Same stone gave Red Skull his immortality and sent him to defend the soul stone. If those are OK then so is Carol. Logical , correct?
Thanks so much for putting this up for free, we love your wife reactions! :D
This man's superpower is identifying cars on the first frame they appear.
Been saying this for months lol
I just came back from watching the Patreon video with your wife. Good food for thought. She got me thinking about how I watch superhero shows and what they are at their core. Heroes in fiction are meant to inspire us to be better. Sometimes their heroism has nothing to do with any special powers. Capt. America can "do this all day", and "hates bullies". Spider-Man shows that having power also comes with responsibility, etc. As a non-female watching this movie (and other media) I got to experience some concerns women have that I would never consider. I had a chance to ask the women in my life, "Is it really like that sometimes?" Most Superhero movies I watch are from a POV I can relate to, but sometimes I get more out of it when I get to look through someone else's lens.
As an non-black man I absolutely loved the Luke Cage series. It made me consider things I wouldn't normally think about and made me seek answers and elaboration. It would be interesting to get your reaction on that one.
Thank you for calling out that Fresh prince reference. It definitely wasn't as popular in 95 as it was in earlier seasons.. but I don't think a girl that young would have been as interested in Living Single either. That was a little bit more adult themed. If anything she might have been into In The House with LL or some Nickelodeon show.
Me: "Oh no, another Captain Marvel reaction.. Oh wait.. MrLBoyd? This will be interesting."
And I returned to this comment to say I 100% agree with all your assessments and opinions about this movie. Yes, Captain Marvel was a comic book thing, and there were different versions of the character. She's almost Superman-tier powers-wise but not morality-wise. At times in the comic books she's been sort of a villain, but usually on the good side. This movie was competing with Alita Battle Angel and there were all kinds of sketchy things going on, critics apparently being bought, theater seats being bought but no people in the seats etc, there was a whole weirdness with certain movie rating sites skewing Captain Marvel's ratings to the positive and omitting the negative, meanwhile reviews for Alita Battle Angel getting the opposite treatment. The perceived success of this movie was clearly more important than its actual success to certain studios. The actress said some things in interviews and on stage that revealed her apparent caring about some groups opinions and not others, etc. Like you noticed, there was a lot of messaging forcibly written in and the story in general was lacking, almost like an afterthought.
Antman 2 makes sense for the Endgame. Captain Marvel was just to introduce the caracter before endgame and for the propaganda, of course. Hehehe
You sound so ignorant lmao 🤣
I'm kinda shocked how mysgonist you come across as. I know your not really like that normally. I am anti-woke and I know you are mostly also. But still...
The guy hitting on Marvel was being creepy. Calling her honey, then getting mad she wouldn't accept him hitting on her. Yeah, I get the movie goes hard with "feminsts good, men bad" garbage, but it doesn't the fact the guy still approached her in a creepy way. I'd never walk up to a stranger, one that I possible like and call her "honey" or "babe" or "sweetie". It's weird. You can just say "Hey" or "Hello, strange scuba suit!"
To make things worse for whatever reason you get triggered by Maria and say you don't want her in your home. Why? Again, I get the agenda of the movie. But I don't see what she said that upset you so much. I think your past trauma really seems to play a role in your life still. To often I see you seem to have some sort of mental breakdown in movies when it comes to woman. Sure, sometimes its understandable, especially if the woman is an idiot. But Maria doesn't seem to be like that.
Again, you kinda come across as mysoginist. I HATE even having to use that word. Becuse I hate that labeling garbage woman use. But sadly its how you came across with these two instances.
I don't know if I'd say that. But? I've seen the rest so I have seen the sequel to this which is discombobulated and I'm being kind. The Marvels may be my contender for worst. The story structure was fine I thought. It def did have a target audience because it's either hit or miss with audiences. But structurally I thought it was fine. What it was lacking was a lot of vibrancy, sprawling detailed scenes and important epicness through and through. Those are all staples of the MCU stuff as of GOTG/Black Panther. This more often is dull in mood and melancholy and the epic scenes few and far between. Most of them seemed to belong to the cat. I can't say I think it's terrible as far as a film production goes but it is more out of sync with the MCU brand and what you expect from these movies.
Sore thumb imo which was a lot of people's favorite part was the attempted humor at pointing the 90's where lame. Why it is to me is because adults living in 1995 I think it is would not look back on the era they were currently in nostalgically nor as a retrograded era. Yet there is was. In it's partial defense it was coming in as an encore piece to Infinity War but that maybe should have been a sign to the filmmakers that they needed to go as big as possible then. And when you do have an interstellar setting that's possible but they choose to minimize that expanse of space (compare to GOTG here) for reasons.
Not the best Marvel movie that's for sure. But it holds a special place in my heart because I worked on it when I worked for Legacy Effects. I helped make the Prosthetic Makeup for the Skrulls as well as the dead Skrull corpse on the autopsy table. If you're wondering what's under the sheet, it looks like a ken doll down there! lol
"What is this song guys"
Its massive 90s hit Just A Girl by No Doubt... it wasnt written today and incorporated into a movie with a strong female leed based in the 90s
Shocking i know but women have been fighting for equality for bloody years
Sometimes that's the frustration of a specific kind of reactor who has no context for anything, not just movies/comic source material.
The good news is you're on to End Game now!
Stan Lee on the bus was reading the script for Kevin Smith’s “Mallrats” 1995 movie which he cameo’s in.
Captain Marvel was planned earlier but got pushed back for a couple of phases. The engine was powered by the tesseract & that is how she got the powers. No different than other Infinity Stones did for others like the Scarlet Witch Quicksilver Ronan & Thanos. One of the things you are missing is the show Agents of Shield where it is found out that Kree blood can bring humans back to life. Also, the Kree creating Inhumans using Kree's blood & experiments on humans to give them powers to use as warriors for their wars. Because the Human race is genetically upgradable.
Carol Danvers is a character from the 60s, she was Called Ms Marvel until about 2014 when she changed to Captain Marvel. She also went by Binary and Warbird at different times. She's the character Rouge from the X-Men drained to gain her super strength and flying abilities. She spent time with the X-Men after that even though she isn't a mutant. She rotated in and out of the Avengers roster for decades.
And in recent years (maybe a decade?) she's spent a lot of time dealing with more cosmic threats than Earth based, with the exception of Civil War 2. She ranks alongside Thor with power level, but focus is more on space based or cosmic based threats. Her superpower is power absorption, which strengthens and empowers her.
I think what happened was ALL superhero movies tried to become Guardians/Ragnarok
In terms of how she acquired her powers, I liken it to how Hulk got his, so not an awful stretch Sir 😂😂🥰.
"Who was the target audience for this movie?"
Not you, dude, definitely not you.
Captain Marvel is a little too cocky for a lot of... well, some people, but that's who the character is, the same way Deadpool is allowed to be who he is and you either love him or hate him.
Also it was based in the 90s, so it's very accurate how quick women were to claim their independence during that time after being raised by super conservative 50s moms. Understand the context.
They completely destroyed the original story in order to please the modern audience that had become extremely vocal during the time of filming for this movie. So he is not wrong in filling that way. As a matter of fact a lot of people felt just like he did!
@@RandomNPC001 It was more to appease the modern "Actors" who were told they could insert Politics.
The *Audience* didn't care about this nonsense, but it stuck.
@@RandomNPC001 I was expecting some rando to reply, 'but but but the comics' but I was not expecting your name to actually be 'Random' 🤣🤣like wth. As for your comment, dude, chill. It's just a superhero movie. The people who care, know the original story, and the people who don't know the original story, don't care. We're not taking this as the gospel truth on CM origins. It's not something we're pressed about at all. Trust me. Your origin story is safe for future generations.
@@lokithecat7225 It started with the "Me2" movement and anti-Trvmp (I don`t like the man, but he makes a lot of good points on lots of things, just saying) people merging with the rainbow peeps and the whole thing just morphed together into the reality of today.
@@secretlyadragon4723 There lies the problem again. The people who liked this are few, but very vocal. The people who disliked were a lot more but were silenced by backlash and called myso...., se.... and so on. The original comics are being deleted from history as if they never existed (look at Disney Star Wars and what became canon and what became legends). It "has been" a movie here, a historical fact there, a book some where... You are saying as if the world self corrected itself after this movie and did not become a parody of itself since this movie release!
Go back to avengers age of Ultron director fury can be seen eating toast cut diagonally which means he's a skrull the whole time in that film which makes sense because the age of Ultron movie took place after the events of Captain America the Winter soldier so fury would have still been suffering from 3 gunshot wounds. Also fury mentions we're back on Earth.
I think this was Disney’s Big statement piece movie when they were like all men are bad. Women are the best and the movie was terrible because of that they couldn’t make a movie. But you made it through hopefully you learned that you aren’t a threat! 😂😂
I swear, im more and more surprised every single reaction that you're married coz you have a weird as hell feeling towards women...
I notice you didn't question who the target audience for Black Panther was
Ive been a big fan for a long time. Your observations are often in line with my own. I am disappointed in your take on this.
Yes, Captain Marvel was in the comics. *He* first appeared in 1939 I think. He was supposed to be the Marvel version/equivilant of Superman. Successive iterations of the character became female in the early 1980s I think...
Captain Marvel/Ms. Marvel has the power Cosmic in the comics... Rogue , from the Xmen killed her and took her power hence why Rogue has super strength and can fly... they obviously took the movie in a different direction, with Carol Danvers getting her powers from the tesseract/ space gem (in the comics the tesseract/cosmic cube is different from the space gem) ... they made the movie fit into the MCU timeline... they did pkay up the girl power thing... but overall i dont think the movie was bad aside from Brie Larsons wooden acting....
Before I say anything else, yes, this is a Girl Power!/anti misogyny movie at the core. It's not a great movie, and I don't accredit that to it being a Girl Power!/anti-misogynist movie. It's just not well written. Where I take umbridge, is that you are like, it's not believable that she got powers from the Tesseract. These stories are, on their face, are unbelievable. That's why we watch them. Scarlet Witch got her powers from the Mind Stone, no problems there. right? You loved Ant-Man. Ant-Man movies are the most inconsistent movies of them all. Ant-Man is supposed to decrease in size but retain his weight and strength. That's where he gets his power. How did he flip Black Widow in Civil War while small and also run up the gun/arm of another man in Ant-Man 1 or ride on ants for that matter? It stands to reason he has the same weight as Giant Man. Let's not go into how oxygen would get into his bloodstream if he had bigger or smaller atoms. What I'm getting at, is you aren't wrong about the messaging in this movie. Your opinion on it is your own and I don't disagree on what they were trying to do. I don't blame them for trying to get more girls into Marvel, though. I guess I'm saying, sometimes you just have to go along for the ride on superhero movies. It's not going to make sense because it isn't meant to. Captain Marvel set in 1995, before any of the other movies besides Cap 1, or Eternals I think you closed in on that pretty tight. So yeah, agree, not the best Marvel movie. Logically inconsistent, but not the worst logically inconsistent movie from Marvel.
If they want to get more women into theaters for these movies, I'm ok with that. But they should be using original characters to do it. Instead of race swapping this character who had no historical context with Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet arc to begin with. Hell, she wasn't even there. This was a forced character which was unliked in the comics, that nobody asked for.
Ignorance is such an astounding quality in some intelligent people. 😂
"we are way way way in the future"
yeah i think the future is called 90s xD
Dude! We are talking Marvel here. Bruce Banner got powers be being exposed to what should have been a lethal dose of gamma rays. Peter Parker got powers because a radioactive spider bit him. I don't see how you are getting hung up on being next to an exploding infinity stone powered engine giving someone powers.
It's very frustrating, this may not be the best film but it was super weird how fast he got offended here considering everything else that comes so far.
I think a part of the reason it did well was it's proximity to basically two bangers, infinity war and end game. There was a period when Marvel was just printing money, basically.
things that were good
1. the sound design was good.
2. the SFX were good.
3. Fury
4. Flurkin
5. Radio Shack
Interesting conversation with the wife. This movie was pulled left and rushed into a spot between Infinity War and Endgame.
They wanted to work on shifting the story direction of the MCU, implying that this was a must watch film to set up the next movie, which really accelerated ticket sales despite the mixed reviews.
There was a change in leadership and direction for the future of the studio, and the old scripting had through endgame planned. This is one of the transition movies.
This movie performed very well in the theaters...solely b/c you had to watch it so that Endgame made sense. There was a lot of hate around it regarding Bree Larson and the plot. In my opinion they should have done the Black Widow movie instead of this movie. Would make more sense canonically. Then you can bring in Captain Marvel as the new hero of the MCU in phase 4.
You absolutely didn't need to watch this movie before Endgame. They made it seem like you had to, but you didn't have to. And yes, they absolutely should have made a Black Widow movie before this one.
30:24 The answer to your question is:
Hollywood's reaction to Captain Marvel's comic book origin story: "I'm an AUTEUR, and this is too embarassing to put into a film."
Not-Hollywood's reaction to Captain Marvel's MCU origin story: "This is so stupid that it makes no damn sense."
Does he realize it wasn't powered by a normal engine?
@@PixelatedH2O He's not nearly as bright as he thinks he is.
Ill be honest, as a woman i only watched it bcuz NIN is my favorite band
I love this man. His reaction says it all. The first marvel movie where I really went, what's happening here? Where did all the good writing go? What the hell is this bullcrap. The beginning of the downfall of marvel.
Yeah, we didn't want to "spoil" it for you... You just gotta get through this one. I would have bumped the movie up a WHOLE letter grade if they had gone with Meredith Brooks's "Bitch" instead of "Just a Girl" Totally time-frame appropriate. Try muting the scene and playing it over it. it almost works perfectly if you time it right.
Watched your wife talking about it. The movie came out in 2019, only thing really going on was Trump was president. And since at the time Trump was pushing to overturn Roe vs Wade, the feminist stuff REALLY being pushed. At least that's one reason I think the movie pushed so much towards feminists stuff. And of course since it was made before hand, there was lots of rhetoric then from feminists about Republicans in general.
I will note though, most people who take apart the movie piece by piece to analyze it said if you watch it, there is very little feminst propoganda in it outside of a few lines. Even feminsts claims its not super feminists in nature. Obviously its their opinion of course. Wonder Woman was feminist, but no one really cared as much because it felt.... better. Captain Marvel on the other hand pushed the same message, but it was cheesy, overly done and in your face.
As for Hispanic vs Latina. Yeah, she's Hispanic since she is from Spain. ^_^
As for the rest of the MCU, as mentioned in my other post in the comments, your not going to enjoy the MCU as much going forward. There are a FEW good ones here or there like a certain villain who has their own show, but other then that, the MCU is a mess. Politics, agenda, poor writing, bad CG...etc.
Regarding the penis in the restroom. LOL. Hilarious conversation piece! Yeah, I guess a woman may not realize there is an unwritten rule about not looking over at the other urinal. This is why I use the stall. lol
Loved this reaction .. the pained expressions were priceless ❤😂… I liked the cat …. The whole woman power undertone .. blah blah blah ruined what could have been a great film… oh and was she special before the accident ??? Hell yer… she was a WOMAN.. hahahaha 😂😂.
I’m also a woman thank god this film came along to tell me how special I am …🤦♀️sarcasm
This Captain Marvel is a combination of Carol Danvers’ character of Ms. Marvel (later Captain Marvel after the first Captain Marvel (Mar-Vell) who was a man died of cancer) who lost her powers when the mutant Rogue permanently absorbed them from her. She later became Binary and had star-like powers. They combined Binary’s powers with Captain Marvel’s powers.
I'm not a girl, so I cant speak to the girl power messaging being a success or not. A woman I used to work with told me how much she and her three daughters loved the original Charlies Angels movie. That was a Girl Power success. One thing that I think would help this movie, is the same thing that will help ALL these moves. Blade 1. The final battle should be a person vs a person, not cgi. Thanos worked because they spent like a billion dollars to make him look like a real person. Yon-Rogg should have had one Nega band and he should have had a hand to hand fight with her. its a call back to the beginning of the movie.
This movie did well because it came IMMEDIATLY before Infinity war and everyone was lead to believe ( I knew it was a lie) that they needed to see what happened in this movie for Infinity War to make complete sense.
There's a reason her comic book was rebooted as many times in as many years. About nine. Carol was never popular and unlike Iron Man, she didn't have her Demon in a Bottle moment. And the actor portraying her was just not RDJ. 🤷♂
Yes, Captain Marvel is real. But also, if you know Rogue from X-Men, you might know more of her story.
I enjoyed this movie.
Young lady.
Dont call me young lady.
I'm hundreds of years older than you, but okay.
BlockBuster, more like LackLuster! 😎
This movie grossed above 1 billion dollars. It was a huge success, no matter what our emotions might tell us.
Dont worry, Infinity War and End Game are two of the best movies ever made, not just in Marvel.
This was the real first whiff for marvel in terms of agenda… sadly they’re still learning the lesson of why movies like this were not liked by the actual fan base
Yeah they really started their Woke agenda with this movie. Captain Marvel was one of my favorite characters in the comics. Then they had to ruin it with the Woke agenda.
You got a dislike because I don't agree with your take on this film.
Hilarious to see otherwise intelligent people being triggered in the most boring and predictable ways. 😂😂
I love how you realized this was gonna be a shit show with the first line of the main character.
Fair reaction. Not my favorite either but it does make sense when it’s tied into endgame
It's about 20 years before the first Marvel movie
I respectfully but strongly disagree with Lloyd's take. I don't expect online discussions to be productive generally, so I'll leave it at that, except to say that propaganda, like so many other things, is in the eye of the beholder.
"Don't believe your own eyes. they are lying to you"
You have the right to feel the way you do. After Infinity War no one cared about anything else but Endgame
Dude this comment section to view rate is insane
What you're missing is the wokeness mindset that she's a "strong independent woman and don't need no man". 🤣🤣 Funny you knew 17 minutes in how the general audience that Marvel movies are intended for would feel about this one 😎
I think the biggest problem with Captain Marvel in the MCU is that they never tell you the limitations of her powers. Everything they show in the movies is consistent with her limits in the comics, but they never make it explicit and tell you what her limits are. She absorbs energy. She's more powerful the more you hit her with. But they never say it. So to a casual observer she looks like she has infinite power. I think her movies would be better if you could see her overcome her weaknesses.
I think the reason they didn't nail her powers down was because at the time the comics were giving her more and more powers with every reboot of her comic. Her power set was basically whatever the writers needed her to have. Like Golden Age Superman, but with zero sincerity.
Yeah lets move on to Endgame 😂😂
The misogyny is strong with this one.
I would LOVE a convo between him and @Tyronemagnus 😂😂😂
I love that show living single
After this the things to look forward to are the avengers:end game, wandavision tv show (you should watch this but it’s only 80% necessary), dr strange multiverse of madness, and the Loki tv shows.
Oh and the Spider-Man movies are pretty great too. (Add the cartoon spider verse movies)
Endgame, Spider-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol.3. Everything else should be found in a field next to Atari`s E.T.!
Spiderman and GotG are the only things after end game, too. look forward to it. Imo
@@RandomNPC001 oh you know what I still need to see gog3
marvel is dead
Yes, it is one of those. But it was also the 90’s being portrayed . That is how it was.
Not really
No it wasn't.
No, no it was not.
3 minutes into the video and he's like, "This is one of these, isn't it?" LOL! Yes, it is.
Best part... "something tells me this movie did terrible." 🤣
Too many people got tricked into going to the theater.
Instead of being a relatable character, it's a (gender swapped) invincible female who learns how powerful she is by overcoming male domination.
@@matchu.j did you expect female dominance instead? 😂
And yet it grossed above 1 Billion Dollars. It was a financial success.
You aren't wrong wokeness infiltrated Marvel and it started with Thor where they decided to start to make it a comedy and emasculate him, then they did the same thing with ant man (all be it it was already a comedy but they wanted to boost wasp at Antman's expense) Then this was peak pre end game woke. Endgame has a few issues but it is still a good movie. They couldn't risk it with too much. Then after endgame there is a steady down hill momentum. There is like one of two movies that are decent after end game then you aren't really missing much of anything to skip the rest. Think of Endgame as a proper send off and end of the original marvel and the rest after is basically garbage propaganda.
"I always wanted to something FREAKY-SNEAKY!!!" -Living Single
Agreed living single 👍🏿
Your reaction to this was everything I wanted it to be. You expressed nothing but the totality of the truth throughout and while I dislike this film greatly I was filled with glee at the opportunity to watch your reaction and hear your thoughts.
Powerful women are propaganda
What an insane final take
Lol triggered bum
It literally is 😂. The only power women have is power men have voluntarily given them. Feminism is a joke because it relies on males to enforce it
your opinion of this movie is spot on
Here's the thing; if you're familiar with Captain Marvel in the comics, Brie Larson's portrayal was spot on. She becomes more . . . amiable in The Marvels.
one of my alltime favorite marvel movies
Oh yeah I forgot people don't like this movie because it has women in it. As a conservative 40 something year old white man it didn't even register much less bother me. Yall are weird
F'n weird.
Amen brother, was a fun movie
Yep, first movie in history with women in it. If only there was a movie called Alien, or Terminator, or Star Wars. Someone should make those movies so that people can see women for the first time. 2019 was such a groundbreaking year.
Its a shit movie mate. You're in a tiny minority if you enjoyed it
I love how quickly you saw through this film
lots of dudebros got their nuts in a twist because one movie didn't cater specifically to them.
To the privileged, equality feels like oppression.
And it turns out trying to lure in new customers with ideological grandstanding, while ignoring and denigrating your core customers aren't making the profits they were promised.
No, this is such a tired and lazy take that makes intelligent people want to vomit. Men around the world loved Ellen Ripley from 1979's Alien, who was intelligent and had the integrity to do the right thing (like stand up to the captain and argue for maintaining containment protocols to prevent the alien from getting onboard). Men around the world loved 1984's Sarah Connor for her (foretold) ability to transform herself from a server into a molder of leaders, a wielder of knowledge and tactical skills (portrayed in 1991's T2, where the actress underwent an amazing physical transformation to match her character's mental one). Men around the world loved 1977's Princess Leia for her ability to keep up with Han Solo and engineer the second half of her own rescue attempt. And this was all probably before you were born. Carol is not a first, or is she the best. Downtrodden people usually (unfairly) require someone of immense wisdom and capability to help them out of their plight, but Captain Marvel is no MLK and trying to prop her up as such is insulting to historical figures like a Susan B. Anthony or Gloria Steinem.
Even feudal Japan had women leaders and assassins and survivors. Even Soviet Russia had women snipers who were often better than the men. They were informants and spies in the Korean War. But the US had one as the head of a movie in 2019 and suddenly she's a first that no one is allowed to criticize on the merits of her behavior or portrayal?
The worst part is Carol Danvers is a jerk with no emotional range. She literally embodies all the toxic traits she hates in men, and she thinks she's supposed to be cheered for it because she misunderstands what men see in other men. None of Bruce Willis' characters act like this. Nor do Arnold Schwarzenegger's. Or Sylvester Stallone's. This is a misunderstanding of stoicism, a mischaracterization of masculinity. Blackface is insulting because it's a gross _mischaracterization_ of how black people think and what motivates them. It was a pathway for mockery that didn't reflect reality. That's what this is for men.
Of course a female lies about what actually happened 😂
No, this is such a tired and lazy take that makes intelligent people want to vomit. Men around the world loved Ellen Ripley from 1979's Alien, who was intelligent and had the integrity to do the right thing (like stand up to the captain and argue for maintaining containment protocols to prevent the alien from getting onboard). Men around the world loved 1984's Sarah Connor for her (foretold) ability to transform herself from a server into a molder of leaders, a wielder of knowledge and tactical skills (portrayed in 1991's T2, where the actress underwent an amazing physical transformation to match her character's mental one). Men around the world loved 1977's Princess Leia for her ability to keep up with Han Solo and engineer the second half of her own rescue attempt. And this was all probably before you were born. Carol is not a first, nor is she the best. Downtrodden people usually (unfairly) require someone of immense wisdom and capability to help them out of their plight, but Captain Marvel is no MLK and trying to prop her up as such is insulting to historical figures like a Susan B. Anthony or Gloria Steinem.
Does this vitriol among dudebros exist for the first Wonder Woman? A movie where the male lead was the sidekick? Didn't Patty Jenkins manage to speak to women, with a historical eye for injustices against women? Didn't she also speak to the toxicity of expecting men to always perform their duties despite the PTSD they had to deal with (e.g. the sniper who couldn't snipe)?
Wonder Woman 2017 has an RT audience score of 83%, which is pretty high for a superhero film. Wouldn't that be hard to do if all the dudebros review-bombed it? Wouldn't that be hard to do if superhero fan's can't handle women in their genre? Maybe it's about more than the gender of the lead character of this movie. Maybe it actually has something to do with the characters and writing. Maybe it's about the insult to all the women who paved the way here being ignored so Captain Marvel can act like she's the first. And the insults to our intellects, acting like we've never heard of all the women you've already forgotten or never learned about.
propaganda - You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means
What does it mean?! Just asking for a friend!
He used it 100% correct in the context he was speaking of.
All the movies have propaganda to some extent, Captain America being patriotism propaganda and Iron Man being elitism propaganda are the more blatant in the series. The problem is that for a woman centric hero/superhero movie to do well you have to go to extremes for people to not think it's propaganda. Case in point, Wonder Wonan: she was molded by the gods put of clay to be the perfect woman and live in a society with no men, and yet there's no talk of propaganda or trying to force a women's agenda down peoples throat. Then you have the other side of the spectrum, in movies where some women has to have such a tragic background that it erases all feminity from them so all you pretty much have is a woman who acts lije a man.
Captain Marvel was just a woman, but because 99.9% of hero/superhero movies are male centric and male centered, "some" people are going to think that some kind of agenda was trying to be put out there... especially on a script 2/3 written by women. It's going to flow differently when the source material is through the lens of women and not men. Might I also point out how Afrocentric Black Panther was having a majority Black American/African staff (from the writer down to the grip), but that is given grace but this wasn't. And I don't want to hear the bs of "Well Black Panther is more well known," which is a lie.
People just have a problem with women in films if the dialogue isn't pleasing to men. Does that excuse the movie, no because there are plenty of cons for it, but when he's 10 minutes into it and already dismissed it on its content and not it's quality, the rest of the review is already tainted. As soon as he saw there was a "female trope" I knew it would be another "dude bros." reaction to it.
This is the first of Marvel’s “woke movement” movies. You got a few good movies left in the MCU, after that, Marvel doubled down on wokeness and poor quality. From what I’ve heard they finally are altering course now seeing as they are losing money. I’ll believe it when I see it
First person I've known or watched a reaction that didn't like the movie....then a shitload of people agreeing.... where are these people irl 🤣
haha so glad you saw this film for what is was. if i look past that its not too bad overall, but maaaaan this started allot of that crap in movies, or slung it forward.
cpt marvel originally tied to rouge from x-men its why you dont hear about her much, i dont want to ruin it for you so ill let you look into it.
Way too many people saying "woke" in comments to avoid having an actual conversation as if they can even define that word
Some superheroes are women, get over it
He will most likely watch the Marvels also which is the real MCU turd supreme.
I really hate this false dichotomy, and I hate how common it is. I'm a California progressive with a single lesbian mother. I've been watching women in movies since the 1970s and I find it insulting to the hundreds of women in film before 2019 to act like Carol Danvers is the first. She isn't, and having a woman in film is not the only reason to feel insulted by this film. You're ignoring Ellen Ripley, Sarah Connor, and Princess Leia, and then saying anyone who doesn't like this movie is a misogynist? That's insult on top of insult. How about respecting your women elders? How about realizing that men who liked those movies are allowed to not like this one?
Yes, anti-woke is its own cesspool of nonsense, but you don't have to mischaracterize all of cinema and all cinema fans by acting like anyone who's critical of your gem is automatically a not-see. Just because not-sees like hamburgers, doesn't mean that everyone who eats at Burger King is one also. There are, in fact, more than two kinds of people in the world and more than two ways of viewing it.
Can tell this man never went through puberty
I never watched this movie, this is as close as i will get. I knew better. You made this tolerable to watch.
Funny I thought your recording was gonna stop right after you said Let’s start with the things that are good…
This is when they stared really using the Panderstone.
Ty for the review. This confirms what I heard about it & I trust yours.
Best reaction I’ve watched to this movie. No sugar coating or trying to pretend like you enjoyed it.
Did a lot of reactors say they liked it?
@@hitachiuchihamagicwand2776 they didn’t necessarily say they liked it but they didn’t outright say that it wasn’t good.
3:13 Yes, this film is one of THOSE.
Not as egregious as later films, and some cuts were made to dial back the misandry.
But one of the things that infuriates me is the difference between how Nick Fury lost his eye in the comics (an explosion while in combat, originally against Nazis then changed to Kuwait in Ultimate X-Men) to this unheroic fate (infection from the scratch of a monster space pussy...cat.)
Other than that, there's the usual sins:
- The female protagonist experiences NO internal character growth. (Destroying the power-suppression device does not count as internal character growth. Learning about how she was deceived does not count as internal character growth. Beating the antagonist into a pulp does not count as internal character growth.)
- The female protagonist's problems are ALL caused by men or an artificial intelligence masquerading as a woman.
- The female protagonist is allowed to be snarky/condescending/rude with NO consequences.
- The female protagonist is allowed to be triggered by male behavior with no consequences, but when a male character is triggered by her rudeness deserves grand theft auto as a punishment.
- The female protagonist is allowed to lie to authority figures with no consequences.
- The female protagonist is allowed to use violence and emotional logic to refute a logical argument without being challenged. (Skrulls don't have that power because I say they don't have that power, and THAT is the end of the conversation)
- The antagonists are ALL shown to be mostly calm and rational, whereas the female protagonist is mostly shown to be angry and easily irritated.
- The female protagonist faces ABSOLUTELY NO CONSEQUENCES for her actions.
Notice how she was perfect from the start?! As a matter of fact she was being hampered down by men and their system put in place in order to put strong women like her in place. (using Disney logic, just be clear here guys)🥴🤣
Incorrect. She was being gaslighted from the start and told "You're too emotional!" while being kept under control. She was not "perfect" at all. She was a cocky, brash test pilot with a chip on her shoulder. She was just POWERFUL at the start. This is a different origin take than, say, Iron Man. He builds a suit, refines it, gains great power, learns not to be a dick and becomes a hero. Carol was transformed before the movie began, got great power, then got ground down and trapped into believing she was less powerful and placed under Kree control. Her great awakening isn't, "Wow, I got power and learned not to be a jerk." It was "Wow, I always had this power and learned to stand up for myself despite being gaslit by my so-called superiors."
Swing and a miss
@@poneal666 "Gaslight", "Emotional", "under control", "powerful in reality"... all trigger words used by the more "intellectual" liberal inclined designed to instill a sense of indignation on like minded people of those who use such words, despite of the reality of the world. Everything I posted still stand, you just made a bigger case for it than I did, so thank you!
@@PixelatedH2O Never confuse inability with no desire to.
Easily one of the worst marvel films ever, as u know, theres some ups and downs, especially of late.
This is by far the greatest of all Marvel movies
Say it with your Chest!!!😂
@@SittingBlue96 😂
This movie was so bad
The reviews depend on where you go. Rotten Tomatoes critic scores have a 79%, but the audience score gave it a 45%. But if you go to Meta Critic, you get a 64 (out of 100) from critics, and 4.0 (out of 10) from from audience. On IMDB its a 74%.
So how did the movie do? It did REALLY well. That said, this is one the hate for the MCU started. Movie got reviewed, though still ended up with a pretty good rating as you can see. It was hated for its "Mary Sue" hero and the feminist message. I don't get the hate for how powerful she is per say as Captain Marvel is one of the most powerful heroes, Scarlet Witch being above her at first.
I didn't hate the movie, but I don't super love it either. Mind you I don't care to much about the messages its telling us. Just wait until you get to The Marvels....oh boy. The messages get 100% in your face and stronger. lol. So if you kinda cringe at this one, it gets worse.
Form here on out things are going to go down hill in many of the movies. Including some of your favs (more or less). The TV shows are even worse. I'll comment on them though as they come out as to not spoil anything. One certain series features a certain MCU villain you already know, its the BEST MCU show honestly. It's the only thing for me that kept the MCU going.
The begging of the end for Disney/Marvel!
It was a slap in the face to the Captain Marvel IP. The original Captain Marvel in the comics was Mar Vell, they genderbent him into a supporting role. The Carol in the comics was Ms Marvel, and they rebranded her into a mary sue in comics as she takes the mantle of Captain Marvel. The MCU just ignored the history of Mar Vell & just made up a completely different origin of Carol as the one and only Captain Marvel. Not Mar Vell, not his son Genis Vell, completely glanced over for this modern propaganda piece.
If you are calling Carol Danvers a "Mary Sue" then you don't understand what a Mary Sue really is and probably shouldn't be using the term. Even as Captain Marvel, she is FAR from perfect. She's an alcoholic in recovery, cocky and arrogant at times, and it's all to mask huge control issues. She's a flawed character, not a morally perfect author self-insert, even when Kelly Sue DeConnick was writing the book.
A harsh interpretation. Nothing here goes beyond the already egregious alterations to the comic book canon we've seen... Tony making Ultron, for example. So, us comic book nerds have to accept these alterations... But if you don't, then you have to call them ALL out...
@@steved1135, I'm not sure why everything has to be called out, people have thier own breaking point. The metric for what is acceptable and not varys from people. Sure Ultron's origin was altered because they didn't introduced ant man yet & were iffy about putting Pym in the MCU given his bad press. Thor's Mjolnir being weaker than Storm Breaker & Storm breaker being an Axe. It's owner in Comics, Beta Ray Bill, is only a Easter egg coz apparently because Taika Watiti felt like it. Hella being Thor's sister. James Gunn made Drax the Destroyer an Alien. Sure those were acceptable. I was mad at most the Thor changes, but I let it slide. I drew my line at gender swapping Mar Vell specially the character being the original gender would not have any impact on the story. Ghost & Task Master didn't deserved the same fate neither.
So lets talk about the MCU, starting with this movie. I will keep it spoiler free.
With End Game fast approaching after this movie, it was wrapping up a phase of the MCU. And this point Marvel has mostly made movies that appeal to everyone. And using A list heros/villians. So the mass appeal was always going to be there. But at this point in the MCU, they are gearing up for the next phase. Which basically meant they had to figure out how to keep the MCU going as the big people and big ideas were used that everyone would love already.
B and C list tier heros/villians would have to be introduced to keep the MCU going. Which meant risking way more as most of the people coming up are not known at all really. And many of them have VERY specific stories that target specific groups of people rather then the masses. Again, no spoilers but you are going to start seeing alot more stories based on race, gender, orientation, and politics. Which created ALOT of review bombing of many movies and tv shows in the MCU after this point.
I totally get they want to reach out to groups and to make everyone feel special. There is nothing wrong in theory. However, turning the MCU from a mass appeal idea to a group to group appeal starts to annoy the audience. Especially because the MCU movies and shows are connected. So if you want to stay in the loop with the MCU, have MUST watch EVERY movie and every tv show. Even if its not targeting you.
A good example is there is a certain character in the future you will seen that targets essentially Muslim teenage girls. Again, nothing wrong with the representation. But no one wants to stay in touch with the MCU story by being forced to watch said show. And that is the thing Marvel has always done. Thrown bits of the MCU stories in everything, trying to make it one giant story. And its backfiring now.
And one top of all this, they started going overtime with the amount of movies and tv shows around Captian Marvels release. So people would have to watch a few MCU movie every year along side a few tv shows. It's ALOT of time to dedicate to keep up to date the MCU story.
There is also going to be a noticable drop in CG quality. Especially with a a certain colorful character coming up in a tv show. The studios doing the CG work were so rushed that it became "Rush all this stuff out ASAP" and they chose quantity over quality sadly.
I will say, currently Marvel has has some shakeups and cancelled a ton of this things and decided to slow it down. They also seem to partially gotten the message that targeting specific groups with every movie/tv show may be hurting them.
I have always said the MCU would die at some point. They went down he wrong track. Especially with Disney being in control of them. Again, I won't say what is coming up as to not spoil anything, but many of us are hoping a future "team" will save the MCU. It could rejuvinate it for they best if all goes well. We already know another "team" that is set for the future has bad casting choices, so we shall see what goes on with that.
So from here on out, expect disappointment. Again, with the exception of a show you will be watching show about a villain from the past. Said show is the BEST MCU show to date! Perhaps better then some of the top MCU movies! So much show I named our cat after this villain. You will see why when you watch it.
Afraid to say it did over $1.131 billion, mostly due to the fact that a lot of Disney simps wanted the prove the people complaining about this move wrong. So they did this massive campaign to make this a box office hit and started what is common practice for Hollyweird today to be very toxic towards people that dislikes the horrible things that come out today!
Brie: Die Marvel.
DIESNEY: That's a great idea!