+Andy Gross (avisioncame) Anybody who acts like they know everything when it comes to 40+ years of video games is just lying. Hell, the PC alone has over 10,000 games released for it.
please answer metaljesusrocks! how did you capture that footage of robo army? I have been trying to capture gameplay on my consolized mvs through component using the el gato hd and it just wont work for me>?? ill appreciate a response
Fun Fact: The girl featured in those Neo Geo commercial is Chiba Reiko, A.K.A Ptera Ranger, the Pink Ranger from the Japanese counterpart of Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers. She's endorsed Neo Geo for years.
You're talking about the girl being hot whereas I couldn't even see that cuz the adverts are so wacky. Seriously none of them screams NeoGeo it seems more like a couple just goofing off. And what is Japan? Always putting old men with young girls and shit. That's cringey as hell.
@@sladejosephwilson2300 it was officially sanctioned lol. They didn't think American kids would like it the way it was, so they localized it and turned it into something that's almost an entirely different product.
One of my friends saved up for the system itself and after he got it we took up a collection and would purchase the Neo Geo games to play. Compared to the cost of playing in the arcade we got our money's worth.
In LA it was the system the Police owned, because the Police would confiscate them and used NEO GEO as evidence that only Drug dealers could buy these POS.
thats cheap compared to the laseractive. A fully decked out laseractive with all the pacs and 3d goggles would have cost $3500 in early 90s dollars. Definitely the most expensive console of all time.
I actually had an AES when I was a teenager in the 90s. Saved up and bought a used one through the mail. I remember ordering it over the phone -- probably found out about it in a game magazine since the Internet wasn't really a thing for most people at the time. One of my all-time favorite systems, for sure. The sound and graphics were extremely impressive compared to what we had on consoles back then.
I too had one when I was 17 must have been about 92ish but only had King Of The Monsters, I'm not sure if it was the game sold with the system in the UK as I swapped my Amiga for it and it was pre owned.
yeah she i was a kid the neo geo was almost the stuff of legends. everyone wanted one and occasionally someone would have a cousin or friend that supposedly had one, but no one ever saw it. it was the Rolls Royce of consoles back then.
Probably a good thing you never got one. I remember games being $250AUD retail. An NES game retailed for about $90AUD for a AAA title, with older titles and the non-AAA's going for around $40 - $60AUD. So for the price of ONE NEO GEO game, you could pick up 4 or 5 NES games including some AAA new releases in there. And - $250AUD in 1990 equates to $473.17 in 2016. So it's the equivelent of paying almost $500AUD for one game.
I only knew of one guy. He was my uncles best friend and he worked at a mom and pop video game store at the time. I was about 10 or 12 and was obsessed with fighting games and arcade games. I was heartbroken when he sold his collection to buy an engagement ring for some dumb slut who wound up cheating on him within 5 years anyway. It was completely out of the question for my mom to spend that kind of absurd money on games. I could barely get her to buy snes cartridges.
Many years ago, I found a classified ad selling a complete in box AES with Fatal Fury and Last Resort for $200. It turns out it was a married couple who bought the system for their 10 year old son, not realizing that it didn't have the "Mario" games that he wanted to play! I wasted no time taking it off their hands. lol...still though, it blows my mind that a 10 year old kid was rocking a Neo Geo.
$200??? That's was a STEAL of a deal for you... But how can anyone go into a store to buy a videogame system for their kid, without knowing that Mario is a Nintendo exclusive; and always has been? Cuz traditionally, MOST of Nintendo's consoles have always come packed with a Mario game already included! 🤔
Most people who collect dont do so just to play. Example, I have a full collection of ps1 and ps2 titles that include even the games that costs several hundred dollars. If I just wanted to buy the game I would get it on the PS store for like 40x times cheaper. But, for me and most collectors its about having history/unique items that make it desirable. Plus, a lot of these collectors things are only going up on value, so it can be seen as an investment.
After 25 years of loyal gaming service my Neo Geo AES has finally died with the dreaded red screen of death!! I will now undertake the expensive task of replacing the system as I have a large collection of now valuable cartridges for the system. I highly recommend one of these systems if you are a fan of arcade games... very little diversity in way of genres for the system (mainly fighters or shooters) but the quality was extremely high. A niche console but quality nevertheless.
+SkullScience77 lookup a RUclips by the name of LukeMorris1 who has a # of NeoGeo repair videos, and you might be able to get your system up, and running again. I wish you the best of luck in either repairing your system, or finding a new system.
@@shogunfox7141 Yup. Although I am using retroarch on a mac these days with a retro-bit controller. Whole setup cost: 20 bucks. I dl'ed just about all of the NG-SNK fighting games and a few other classics. Its worked well for me.
Exactly. If you just wanna play these games, there are ports you can buy or get from the sea if you travel with an eye patch. But if you wanna get the game in your hands to collect, that’s another story haha.
Dude, Metal Jesus, YOU NEED to make more videos with John. I really love watching you guys together and hearing all the info he has on these games. He is by far my favorite guest on your show, don't tell DMP, lol. i would like to see more of John's collection too. YOU GUYS ROCK!
Why would he want to lower himself? Metal Jesus is a gaming legend, John Hancock is a know all wanker, he dribbles a load of garbage half the time and people just foolishly believe him thinking he does know...
I just built my self an OMVS, and I love it!! Taitoc labs, and Tian Feng made this and released it open source to the world. Laser bear makes a case to put it all in. All you need is a MV-1C arcade board, and some slight soldering skills to fix the sound and you have a Neo Geo arcade console! Plenty of guides on RUclips showing how to to do this. You can buy the boards pre-made, or if you have the skill and time you can order the boards from OSH park and build them. The pre made boards are really nicely priced and well worth the it. I built my own because I wanted to, it’s just my jam, and very satisfying (so much SMD, mmmm yes please). Honestly, I probably spent just as much on building it than I would’ve getting it pre made. Any way, I love it! I haven’t read the comments, but probably somebody has mentioned this project. I just wanted to give it a bump because these guys made it and released it to the world and that makes them awesome! I can FINALLY get my Neo Geo on!
UPDATES: 1) The region settings are controlled by the console, not the cartridge 2) you can get much better video if you use the PAL SCART option if available...which will allow you to do RGB
My NEO-GEO collection is my most prized console collection I have!! I have a full official AES cart collection every AES officially released! (although my carts are a mix of Japanese, US and PAL) I have 39 MVS carts, a full CD games set too, a brand new factory sealed CDZ, a CDZ system I use, a front loader I use and a fully BIOS modded AES system I use, had my NEO collection valued for insurance purposes, £60-70k value! LOVE IT! My full US Metal Slug collection is my pride and joy! The reason why the carts are so big is because each cart was effectively a console its self, the actual home console was just a way of bridging the carts to the TV like an exchanger unit, so the carts are so expensive because your basically buying a "console" every time. Also they cost a fortune for SNK to manufacture, so each cart had an actual production run - SNK would make like 3000 carts and then retire the run so once the game sold out that was it, the only way to get it was on the pre owned market hence why some of the carts are SUPER expensive, the elusive PAL release pf Kizuna Encounter £12,000 it got recalled by SNK so theres only 4 real carts out there, it did reach shelve in Germany and Austria but got quickly pulled, even though the JAP carts ten a penny! And PAL Super Side Kicks 4:U11, which I own :) bought new from Telegames in 1998 is worth a whopping £4-8k. Also my NEOGEOFREAK US side labelled KingOfFighters 2000 cart one of only 100 I think! I bought most of my carts and CDs on release, the most expensive carts was £650 and that was KOF2K way back in 1999 and Samurai Showdown 5 and 5 SPECIAL I payed £500 a piece back in 2003/4 I think it was that being the last official cart SNK released! The NEOGEO AES gone, but never forgotten! :)
I remember reading articles about NeoGeo when it first came out in my monthly subscription to Gamepro magazine back in the early 90s, it was like the Fender Strat from Wayne’s World. Man...my friends and I laughed about it because of the freakin cartridges’ memory size being Soooo much bigger than everything else currently available at the time. Genesis and SNES touted “16Mb huge!” Meanwhile NeoGeo started at like 45Mb with a max of 330, we didn’t even know it went up that high! Considering the cost of memory at that time, it really explains (mostly) the price tag on those carts. My father didn’t even laugh when I showed a magazine ad of NeoGeo to him and jokingly suggested I wanted it for Christmas-he just instantly became visibly annoyed, shook his head and walked away without saying a word. Good stuff.
@@Shoe3003 That was the 'original' intended max specs from 1989/1990, BEFORE they went up in cartridge size later on in the late 90's and early 2000's... You could put at least 1TB inside it if memory costs went down low enough in the future. That's why the Neo Geo is still so popular even 30+ years after its release!
@@Shoe3003 Oh, hell yes... And a 'cheat menu' option prolly wouldn't hurt either, since there are lotsa newbies from this current generation, who are still not really used to the extremely hard MVS difficulty that we older gamers all had to endure back in the 90's!
The Neo Geo AES was one of my most sought after console. From the sexy look, to the arcade perfect games, large satisfying cartridges, and the arcade like joy sticks, I really wanted this thing. But alas, I can't afford it so I ended up buying a Neo Geo CD with both the Model 2 Joy sticks (two of them) and two of the regular control pads. Games included were Samurai Spirits, KOF 94, and Quiz Fighter. For an extra 130, I picked up King of Fighter 97, 98, some other random game, and Top Hunter (total 730 CAD)! Going to start collecting more and more. Going to focus on my Vita, Saturn, and NeoGeoCd games once I have the chance.
Are the graphics just as good on the Neo Geo CD? Is the problem really only the load times? For me that is worth it since the AES has always been so expensive, but I'd love to have anything that's as close graphics and game playing wise. The load times are pretty slow on some Saturn games but the performance blows away the same title on Playstation (for some games like the Real Bout series). I passed up a few chances to get a Neo Geo CD on my recent trip to Japan but now I'm looking at them on ebay.
SNK is my all-time favorite company... i just love their games and the fact that almost all of their games exist in one universe. My favorite games are: Metal Slug 3 Blazing Star Kof 99 Garou Shock Troopers 1 and many more...!!!
My grandmother got me a Neo Geo Gold AES system for my birthday back in either 1990 or 1991(I just remember having it before the Terminator 2 movie came out in theaters). I did not get a game for it as often as I did a Genesis or NES/SNES game as Neo Geo AES games retailed for $299/each. About 3 - 4 years later, I traded it with someone for a Sega Genesis + Sega CD + about 300 games. heh... I will say, I regretted getting rid of the thing. ---- However, many many years later, I picked up another complete, boxed Neo Geo AES Gold system off of eBay. I still have that system to this day and considerably more games than I used to have back in the 90's. On a side note, John talks about how Neo Geo US & JPN games are interchangeable, but the game(s) will run in whatever their native region is. The US Neo Geo AES Gold system I have now does not have a UNIBIOS installed... yet regardless if I play US or JPN games, the games always play in the US language/region. As for Neo Geo games prices, they were becoming expensive when this video was released in 2016... but today(2022), most US(Dog Tag) games start around $300+ and most of the more desirable titles average around $2,000 - $5,000... even then, there's a lot over $10k. There was even a US Metal Slug 1 that sold not that long ago for nearly $60k !!!
+Gobblox Well when people see you drive in a Ferrari think think "damn i wish it was me" when people see you play a Neo they think "damn im happy i dont have one" :)
I've had an MVS 2 slot cabinet for about 10 years now. I bought it from a skateland that was going out of business for 250 bucks because it had Metal Slug 1 and Samurai Showdown 1. I was so stoked when I got it home, opened it, and realized the games came out It's all modded out now, competition sticks and buttons, low resistance switches, pause button, credit button relocation, internal shelving replacing the coin boxes. Couldn't be happier, it's still one of the favorite things in my video game collection. Great video Metal Jesus!
In NYC growing up in the 90's I knew a cat few years older, Fabian, he owned a red E30 M3, rocked Polo Snow Beach gear, and guess what, "The Neo*Geo" and Fabian was a white powder dealer. No expense spared.
The immortal is like a happy dog. lovely :) honestly that's a collection and a collector that deserves a lot of respect for his passion and love of the games and their history in general.
As a kid, I remember just seeing those prices and not getting it. Yes, it may have been the same quality as a real arcade cabinet, but those were NeoGeo cabinets, which had the cheap games that were like 2 games per quarter. The graphics were nothing compared to most other cabinets. Only as an adult did I come to appreciate Metal Slug, but my local arcade probably didn't even have that one.
Toys R Us had the Neo Geo back when I was a kid. I still remember seeing those 200 dollar games and the 600 dollar system and wondering how any kid could ever buy something like that.
Correction: With unmodded consoles, the region of the games will depend on the console only. Meaning, you can play Japanese carts on your European or US console in the English language.
Most of it is just marketing BS, but back in the very early days of computing, everything was measured in bits, especially ROM and RAM chips. It's also a race to the bottom. If one ISP does it, then they all have to do it. There's also that magical phrase "up to." The computer industry has been full of lies (deception, more like). They couldn't even be honest about the size of a monitor! Nearly ALL 14" monitors were about 13", for example.
tarstarkusz So basically back in the 90s, bits was like the biggest thing before MB and GB in gaming? Can you fill me on this please, its weird (sort of).
In the early days, ram was usually 1 bit wide and so you would need 8 or 9 4164 chips to get a single 64kB bank. Each chip was 64kilobits. This was back in the days of the dual inline package or DIPs as they were called. But as to video games, they used to bit so the number would sound big. A 128 kilobyte game sounded MUCH bigger and better as a 1 megabit game. Unfortunately, once one asshole does that, they all start doing it. It's nothing more than marketing bullshit. Which sounds better, having a single dollar, or 100 cents. That is literally what they are doing.
Mr. John Handcock was actually mistaken. The region that the game will play matters on that system. So if you have an English system with a Japanese game, it will play the English version.
Nice video! I am an avid Neo Geo collector myself so I know the pain of shelling out big bucks, trying to evade conversions and actually find legit stuff. just like your friend mentioned - since AES is turning into a stock-market literally people try to evade to MVS thus having an impact on those prices....
Also sadly SNK had to file for bankruptcy in 2001 (Dam you Aruze!! thats a whole other story though!) they weren't bought out by PlayMore. The founder of SNK Eikichi Kawasaki started a new company called PlayMore in 2001 knowing the end was nigh for SNK Kawasaki San created PlayMore and when the IPs went up for sale in 2003 cleverly Kawasaki San bought them and renamed his new company PlatMore SNK-PlayMore, so from the ashes of the original SNK rose SNK-PlayMore. Kawasaki San managed to keep the HQ, all the bricks and mortar, logos, franchises, pretty much everything! Aruze tried to drag SNK down but like a Phoenix from the ashes, Kawasaki rose SNK-PM back to its rightful place right up there with the very best!
I have great news for you, sir: SNK is fully back to its former glory, albeit they're now focusing on consoles and mobile gaming. They just dropped the "Playmore" branding from SNK and restored their old slogan.
@@kenshinflyer They were bought by the Chinese company, Orient Securities Company (37Games), in 2016. Hardly former glory considering the acquisition was done to gain possession of SNK's intellectual property. It's good if you're hoping to gain access to any legitimate re-releases but the hardware may have secret microchips, given the convenient location of many arcade machines. It's likely a more lucrative direction for said products, overall.
@@brianeych (looking again at my source) I see. Then again, this is still a return to glory of sorts rather than leave it to slowly die. And, yeah, from where I come from, those SNK Neo Geo machines are still alive and kicking.
Actually, that cart that says "708 megs" that probably means "Megabits" and not "Megabytes", which converting to megabytes is 88.5 MB, which is still a LOT, but well, just wanted to let you know that the game isn't as big as you thought...
Thanks for the information, I was wondering about that. For example, the rom of Samurai Showdown 5 that I have is nowhere near 708MB. Thanks for answering that. 👍
I was hoping somebody had corrected this in the two years since this video came out :) The same trick is used when ISP advertise their speeds. "200 MEG" etc., meaning 200 Megabits which is like 25 MB. Incidentally you can usually tell what is being referred to by the notation. "MB" = Megabyte and "Mb" = Megabit. So again ISPs would notate it as "200 Mb/s" in the hope you mistake it as 200 Megabytes per second.
Your isp isn't trying to trick you. Back way before your time, we measured transfer speed in a measurement called _baud._ My first modem was a 2400 baud modem. When it would connect with my isp it would perform a handshake where it would make a bunch of beeps and buzzes. Basically, they (the modems) were agreeing on what protocols and speed to use when talking to each other. The _baud_ number referred to how many times my modem could switch its state per second. Each time it switched it was pushing one _bit_ through. So my modem could handle 2400 _bits_ per second (and in fact, _baud_ simply means bits per second). The fastest consumer analog modems maxed out at 52,000 baud, which at the time felt like it was blazing fast. Modern modems use bits per second too. We have always used bits per second. And when modems were first being introduced, no one could have told you that 8 bits making a byte would be a thing. In fact, if the Chinese had designed everything there would probably be 16 or 32 bits in a byte because it makes more sense with respect to simplified Chinese. There are eight bits in a byte because that is just about the variation you need to use all the English characters and punctuation. If you simplify it down, you could use a 6 bit per byte system, and in fact many early systems did.
herranton1979 The beeps and buzzes were not from the modem, but from the computer internal speaker. It was a feature to let you know you were going online. It was important to know back in the day when people used to pay for internet access by the minute. The feature could be disabled in the modem settings. Most people didn’t know and just learned to live with the annoying screeching sounds...
Neo Geo, Neo Geo. Four bright buttons and two joysticks. Neo Geo, Neo Geo. Cool red cab and a name that sticks. No one quite did 2D fighters like you did. No one quite did runnin' and gunnin' like you did No one quite did Puzzle Bobble like you did I'll always love my four slot model cause I, I... I played that cab for hours on end to the point where that thing was my only friend. With a heavy machine gun in my hand I beat Metal Slug over and over again. You're 32 bits of endless fun. You're a 1990 revolution. You're ahead of the game. You are the best. You're the SNK king of MVS. You're an attractive machine in a pretty red dress. When I'm playing as Mai I wanna give you a kiss. Forget Chun Li when there's Shiranui. She'll knock you out with those big ninja bee's. I'm the Samurai Showdown digital god when you're playing against me and my ninja dog. I'm like Galford with my cool blond hair. But I don't have a ninja dog. I have a ninja chair.
I love my Neo Geo CD! I have a complete US collection and even though the loading was terrible, it's worth the price! Under 300 easy on eBay and worth it!! Plus you can mod Neo Geo X arcade sticks to work with it!
Was there ever any possible way of modding the CD drive also to make games load any faster? Would it actually destroy your Neo Geo CD system, or was it that compatible replacement drives with faster reading speeds simply did not exist? 🤔
This was informative, comprehensive, and I learned a lot that I had not already known. I own both Neo Geo and Neo Geo CD systems. I have a few AES carts and only one CD. Thankfully the CD games are still relatively inexpensive so when I get some extra cash lying around I'll be grabbing more to add to my collection. Thank you both so much for this great video. I'll definitely be following John Hancock.
What a great video and thank you for sharing your story about SNK. This takes me back going to my local Babbage’s Store drooling over all those expensive systems and games as a kid.
2:55 It outputted pure RGB video, but unfortunately for the USA, and many other NTSC only regions, we had a hard time displaying that perfect RGB signal on our TV's. Of course now we have some nice options, such as the Framemeister, OSSC, to display RGB through a SCART connector and display out as HDMI HD. Or use an HD Retrovision component (YPbPr) cable to tap into the RGB signal and output onto a CRT or HDTV with component inputs.
Just finished watching the video. I dont really watch 20 minute long videos but this has to be one of the most well explained and edited videos I have come across. Been playing alot of SNK games on Neo Geo and you taught me a few things! SUBBED!
Neo Geo is linked to one of my fondest memories of my 20's. June, first year of college wrapped up. I just got out of a bad breakup, and there was an MVS cab on eBay stating bid $99 with 0 bids. It was in Idaho though (we're in Seattle). My Best Friend was home from college (different schools) and said if I win, we willl go on a road trip. So we did! And it was amazing. Road trip with my BFF for a Neo Geo? Took only a day to get to Idaho from Seattle.
I love my AES. I've accumulated a pretty decent number of games for it through my store, eBay, Amazon, flea markets, and a couple through garage sales. It's always fun to bring relatives and friends to see by collection and watch them react to the size of the cartridges. It wasn't until I started working my current main job that I was able to really flesh out my collection.
I could, Tony, but what's funny is that I have SNK Classics Arcade Collection Vol. 1 and Metal Slug Anthology on the Wii. I don't mind having the same game on multiple consoles, as my three copies of Resident Evil 4 will attest to.
I've looked online at Neogeo's and still do every now and then, when I'm in the mood (like a minute ago, after watching this video) but they're out of my price range. As far great collections go, I really, really like the Real Bout collection on PS4. That is, Fatal Fury Battle Archives vol. 2, which is actually a PS2 collection available as a sort of backwards compatible download game on PS4, online via PSN. What I love about it though, is that you can play perfect, (almost) zero load time ports with the CD music. So it's basically combining the AES and Neo geo CD versions of the real bout games. In my humble opinion this makes the versions on this collection essentially the best versions of the Real Bout game there are. As far as I know at least. Even the Sega Saturn versions, which use the 1 meg ram cart and have the CD music, still have some load times making even those slightly inferior. They might also lack some frames of animation but I'm not sure about that; I know that the Saturn SamSho versions do lack some animations. Even so, the dream of one day getting an actual Neo Geo hasn't died yet.
He pretty much sum'd it up with the first statement Neo Geo "Expensive Crap" lol. The Arcade was awesome but the price tag they launched the Neo Geo console at was insane.
Neo Geo launched at $643 in America and PS3 was $499. Neo Geo at $643 in the 90s was insane for them to think it would sell well back then that'd be like shelling out $1000 for a console in todays market.The SNES and Sega were like $200 at the time why they thought they could comeout with a system that had a $400 markup and do well I'll never understand. It's documented also that Sony didn't make a profit on the PS3 til they dropped the price.We had the Neo Geo arcade at one of our local restaurants in Louisiana and I loved playin it but unless your family had a ton of disposable income back then no way a kid could talk his parent's into getting the home console for them back then.
So much nostalgia with these Neo Geo games. Never owned the console myself but I sure wanted to. I remember thinking as a kid it would be like spending all the time I wanted in the arcade without the quarters
What's the best way to sell neo geo games? I have the US AES version of Ninja Commando and was not sure if listing and shipping via eBay was the best route?
I play AES and NeoGeo CD as well as X. I think the NeoGeo X handheld is one of the most underrated handheld consoles in existence. It’s a fantastic machine and i playa air just as much as any of my other handhelds. I rarely dock it to play on TV screen, but when I do, it’s enjoyable as well. Nothing beats AES though.
+Greeneyes2475 Correct. The Sega Genesis/Mega Drive also works this way. If you put a US copy of Streets of Rage in a US Genesis the title screen will say "Streets of Rage" but if you put the same cart in a Japanese system it will say "Bare Knuckle".
John Hancock has something a bit more special then he realizes. Samurai Shodown V Special was not released on the Xbox or in that anthology on PS2/Wii/PSP. Those only had vanilla SamSho V. I remember reading an explanation about 10 years ago. As the final Neo-Geo release, SNK wanted to keep it, well, special.
On the ol' late night metal jesus viewing, love all the info etc! my grandpa's job/hobby was in arcade machines, had a huge privilege of play-testing his machines back in the day, metal slug forever!!!
Really cool. I just bought a working MVS cabinet with about 50 carts from a local store that just closed. I paid $130 for everything and was looking to see what I'd gotten myself into.
I had to replace the monitor and most of the control switches. I also replaced the plexi glass on the marquee and control surface repainted and printed new decals. I sold my US Last Blade 2 AES cart to pay for the project since I have an MVS version, and my wife wouldn't let me spend extra money to work on it.
MVS and AES cartridges are electrically compatible, just the physical interface of the cartridges of an MVS doesn't fit an AES. Easily fixed with a simple straight-through adapter.
During the heady days of the Console Wars, I often heard about the Neo Geo, usually as a side-article in a gaming mag or something. I never had a good understanding what it was, what it looked like or how it played. Very informative video.
that samurai Shodown had me savagely ploting back then. would go insane trying to find a way to aquire $900 for the system and cartridge . unfortunately after boosting now&laters from the corner store and selling them in school for three months never lead to me getting the system. I eventually started using the product I was boosting and wasting part of the profits while slumbing at the arcades dropping quarters on shinobi and Street fighter 2. arcade
Last Blade 1 & 2 are two of the most visually appealing fighting games I've ever seen. And the game-play is really fun! By far my favorite SNK titles! All the KoF games are great too..
Ive still got my Neo Geo Cd and I dont mind the loading times. Lots of today games have loading screens, so, it doesnt bother me much, plus its much cheaper to get a nice collection
I remember I considered this the holy grail of consoles when I was a kid. It was also pre internet era so I only would see ad's in gaming magazines and was shocked the games cost more than every console of the time!
Never played a lot of these great games as it was before my time. As a gamer, I am looking back at what I missed and collecting the gems I would love to play one day. This system being one of them, is going to be expensive n_n has so many great arcade games and I only learned about it last year.
My brother is a diehard Neo Geo fan--I am not-- but I soooo regret not collecting the Neo Geo games and systems during the early years, and I'll explain to you why. First off, Neo Geo WAS NEVER CHEAP. Even during its first release and during the 2008 recession, when collectors were trying to scrounge for cash anyway possible, Neo Geo was very expensive! Neo Geo was always seen as a premium home replacement alternative to arcade systems--and rightfully so as the game quality is top-notch and similar to an arcade experience. I regret not collecting for the Neo Geo because today all its games nearly quadrupled in value--and its homebrew games SELL for thousands of dollars! If you Ebay most games, and check the SALES HISTORY, Neo Geo stuff is hitting some incredible sales prices! Keep in mind, some Neo Geo games sell for thousands of dollars and are being sold for thousands of dollars--no if ands or buts. So MY SMART BROTHER WHO BOUGHT GAMES WHEN THEY WERE CHEAP NEARLY BECAME A DONALD TRUMP OVERNIGHT. Lucky him! He was smart and invested in a very desirable game console!
"Neo Geo was always seen as a premium home replacement alternative to arcade systems--and rightfully so as the game quality is top-notch and similar to an arcade experience." Seen by whom? It is consolized arcade hardware so much for the premium marketing gibberish. The games are pretty good but for the most part nothing to call home about as far as I can tell. The problem is the fanboys of yesteryears are the inflators of nowadays. "He was smart and invested in a very desirable game console!" Are you sure everything was planed?
Nexus of Ice That's incorrect. They were sold in time for the holiday season 1990 in the U.S.. I bought a USA Gold System for $550 from a U.S. based video game company who advertised in Electronic Gaming Monthly. My dad also bought me Top Player's Golf ($170) for my big XMAS gift that year. The company even included a free $30 memory card.
You're not alone. Many people think that. Despite trying to fix this in Wikipedia, they keep changing it back. I'm guessing very few people owned a USA Neo•Geo Gold System (2 controllers + either Baseball Stars Pro or NAM-1975). I do have proof as well. My receipt for the system. Purchased on 12/18/1990 www.videogameobsession.com/neogeo/neo-scans/Neo-Geo_Gold_System_Sales_Receipt_12-18-1990-vgo.jpg And snapshots from a video of me opening it all on XMAS 1990 System www.videogameobsession.com/videogame/zz-other/origins/Neo-Geo_Unwrapping_Xmas_1990.jpg Baseball Stars Pro www.videogameobsession.com/videogame/zz-other/origins/Neo-Geo_BBSP_Unwrapping_Xmas_1990.png Top Player's Golf www.videogameobsession.com/videogame/zz-other/origins/Neo-Geo_TPG_Unwrapping_Xmas_1990.png
Nexus of Ice I helped out with a book called Neo•Geo A Visual History, and they got the dates right in their. It's also the only book of its kind fully authorized by SNK. I highly recommend that book BTW. It has a ton of amazing photos which were scanned from SNK which have never seen the light of day until now.
Nexus of Ice Many people think it was released here in 1991 because that's when SNK was finally able to break into the brick & mortar retail side. It was Fall of 1991 when both Babbage's and Electronics's Boutique added the system and a handful of games into their Holiday catalogs and stores. The Gold system price jumped up from $550 to $650 and the games went from various prices, which were dynamically priced based on the ROM size (from $129 to $170) to a flat $199.99 on all games despite the ROM size. It's too bad, because I think they would have done much better with the $500 system price and with some games as "low" as $129. League Bowling was one such game which was $129. Still one of my faves too.
I love the NAM-1975 censorship. I wonder how that conversation went. "Hey we just talked to the marketing guy over in . They said the leg and cleavage isn't going to fly." "We already had those inserts printed though and it wasn't cheap" "Give me that". "There. Fixed."
every time I see John in the thumbnail I grab my notepad. you guys are great metal Jesus has great questions and the immortal has the amazing knowledge :D keep up the awesome work love you guys
I was lucky enough to inherit from a good friend his neo geo collection. He was really into at the time buying most of the great games. I’m only missing one or two but they’re so expensive that I doubt I’ll ever afford them
Glad I was alive and had the pleasure to experience one near the release. The high price was the price you paid for arcade perfection. God this console kicked every console out of the water, it's just a shame it was for rich folks that could easily fork out 150+ each game.
Old video I know, but to chime in I purchased a Neo Geo at Babbages shortly after release with Magician Lord and Ninja Combat....for $199 a game. I beat Ninja combat an hour after purchase. Bummer. But what was cool was that I was able to get as far as I could with Magician Lord at home, save it to the card, and then go to my local arcade (Fun N' Games in NJ) and continue where I left off. Save it after passing some hard level and bring it home and continue. This was necessary because the "home" version of the game used to either start you from the beginning of the level or the middle when you died (as far as I recall) which made it really difficult to beat the level. But in the arcade, you simply pop in a quarter and keep continuing exactly where you were. SNK got my money on the console, game, and card...and then my quarters on top of that!
Ninja Combat, Super Spy, Windjammers 2, Aero Fighters 2. I never played a AES but spent a lot of time in arcades in the early 90’s. Neo Geo machines were a staple back then.
I regret selling my NEO GEO AES back in 2002. I put the stereo mod into it as it should never be heard any other way. Had the rare metal slug carts too... :/I got good money for it, but compared to now, feeling a wave a nausea.
That collection is amazing. Thanks for sharing it! I'm a huge Retro Gamer, grew up playing Intellivision/Atari, NES & my favorite of all time the Sega Genesis. I never had a chance to play the NEO GEO but those games looks beautiful! Totally reminds me of Sega Genesis but it looks even better. What an amazing system. I'll have to get one and try out a few games :) Thanks,
I love that Metal Jesus never tries to act like he is an expert on everything gaming related. Keeps it real.
+Andy Gross (avisioncame) yep
+Andy Gross (avisioncame) Anybody who acts like they know everything when it comes to 40+ years of video games is just lying. Hell, the PC alone has over 10,000 games released for it.
Good luck explaining that to "commenters", lol.
please answer metaljesusrocks! how did you capture that footage of robo army?
I have been trying to capture gameplay on my consolized mvs through component using the el gato hd and it just wont work for me>?? ill appreciate a response
megabits, not megabytes
Fun Fact: The girl featured in those Neo Geo commercial is Chiba Reiko, A.K.A Ptera Ranger, the Pink Ranger from the Japanese counterpart of Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers. She's endorsed Neo Geo for years.
Holy fuck.
Rockman IXA She's hot.
You're talking about the girl being hot whereas I couldn't even see that cuz the adverts are so wacky. Seriously none of them screams NeoGeo it seems more like a couple just goofing off. And what is Japan? Always putting old men with young girls and shit. That's cringey as hell.
You mean the original super sentai which power rangers ripped off of.
@@sladejosephwilson2300 it was officially sanctioned lol. They didn't think American kids would like it the way it was, so they localized it and turned it into something that's almost an entirely different product.
NeoGeo was way to expensive , in NYC is was the video game system that drug dealers owned .
One of my friends saved up for the system itself and after he got it we took up a collection and would purchase the Neo Geo games to play. Compared to the cost of playing in the arcade we got our money's worth.
Luis Rodriguez that's a fact! My cousin was in the life and when he came up he had neo geo on his flat screen
In LA it was the system the Police owned, because the Police would confiscate them and used NEO GEO as evidence that only Drug dealers could buy these POS.
LOL!!!
LMFAO so true!
Wanted a Neo Geo as a teenager but that $699 price tag...
Bryan S.
That's about paying $1350.00 today when adjusting for inflation...plus tax $$$
That means the hardware is relatively cheap these days. On the other hand prices for the cardridges skyrocked due to collectors and other inflaters.
It wasn't just the expensive system, it was also that the games were $200 EACH (almost $400 today).
This. Getting the console is one thing - feeding it with games is quite another!!! :)
thats cheap compared to the laseractive. A fully decked out laseractive with all the pacs and 3d goggles would have cost $3500 in early 90s dollars. Definitely the most expensive console of all time.
I actually had an AES when I was a teenager in the 90s. Saved up and bought a used one through the mail. I remember ordering it over the phone -- probably found out about it in a game magazine since the Internet wasn't really a thing for most people at the time. One of my all-time favorite systems, for sure. The sound and graphics were extremely impressive compared to what we had on consoles back then.
Mitch Pollard what you said.
I was going to get a Neo Geo when I was 18 but I decided to buy a used car instead.
@@BubblegumCrash332 should have got the neo geo
Mighty Jabba's Collection Fingers crossed that you still have it and your games.
I too had one when I was 17 must have been about 92ish but only had King Of The Monsters, I'm not sure if it was the game sold with the system in the UK as I swapped my Amiga for it and it was pre owned.
The NEO*GEO was THE system I always wanted but never got
yeah she i was a kid the neo geo was almost the stuff of legends. everyone wanted one and occasionally someone would have a cousin or friend that supposedly had one, but no one ever saw it. it was the Rolls Royce of consoles back then.
don`t worry, most of us never got one either...
Probably a good thing you never got one. I remember games being $250AUD retail. An NES game retailed for about $90AUD for a AAA title, with older titles and the non-AAA's going for around $40 - $60AUD. So for the price of ONE NEO GEO game, you could pick up 4 or 5 NES games including some AAA new releases in there. And - $250AUD in 1990 equates to $473.17 in 2016. So it's the equivelent of paying almost $500AUD for one game.
Does ANYONE know anyone who had a Neo Geo growing up? I only saw Neo Geos in one place as a kid, a magazine. XD
I only knew of one guy. He was my uncles best friend and he worked at a mom and pop video game store at the time. I was about 10 or 12 and was obsessed with fighting games and arcade games. I was heartbroken when he sold his collection to buy an engagement ring for some dumb slut who wound up cheating on him within 5 years anyway. It was completely out of the question for my mom to spend that kind of absurd money on games. I could barely get her to buy snes cartridges.
Many years ago, I found a classified ad selling a complete in box AES with Fatal Fury and Last Resort for $200. It turns out it was a married couple who bought the system for their 10 year old son, not realizing that it didn't have the "Mario" games that he wanted to play! I wasted no time taking it off their hands. lol...still though, it blows my mind that a 10 year old kid was rocking a Neo Geo.
$200??? That's was a STEAL of a deal for you... But how can anyone go into a store to buy a videogame system for their kid, without knowing that Mario is a Nintendo exclusive; and always has been? Cuz traditionally, MOST of Nintendo's consoles have always come packed with a Mario game already included! 🤔
Neo Geo collecting guide:
-1st step: Be rich.
Play on emulator. Pc/Psp/ets.
Most people who collect dont do so just to play. Example, I have a full collection of ps1 and ps2 titles that include even the games that costs several hundred dollars. If I just wanted to buy the game I would get it on the PS store for like 40x times cheaper. But, for me and most collectors its about having history/unique items that make it desirable. Plus, a lot of these collectors things are only going up on value, so it can be seen as an investment.
@@dumiclumic4423 Play on Retroarch / Nintendo Wii in 240p to a CRT. Lag free.. 20 bucks and you have all Neo Geo games
@@nexusofice9135 Easy to get or make a arcade stick for ps2, I even made one for a Wii
@@nexusofice9135
1st Step : Be Smart
2nd Step : jailbreak your PS3
3nd download the entire Neo Geo Collection and play them all for free.....
After 25 years of loyal gaming service my Neo Geo AES has finally died with the dreaded red screen of death!! I will now undertake the expensive task of replacing the system as I have a large collection of now valuable cartridges for the system. I highly recommend one of these systems if you are a fan of arcade games... very little diversity in way of genres for the system (mainly fighters or shooters) but the quality was extremely high. A niche console but quality nevertheless.
+SkullScience77 lookup a RUclips by the name of LukeMorris1 who has a # of NeoGeo repair videos, and you might be able to get your system up, and running again. I wish you the best of luck in either repairing your system, or finding a new system.
Just build an emulator
Painfully sad :'(
I’m sorry for your loss. Did you ever get a new one?
Unfortunately fighters and shooters are my two least favorite genres
Early 90's: NeoGeo prices out of reach. Late 2010's: NeoGeo prices still out of reach.
Now you can play them all on the Raspberry Pi.
@@shogunfox7141 Yup. Although I am using retroarch on a mac these days with a retro-bit controller. Whole setup cost: 20 bucks. I dl'ed just about all of the NG-SNK fighting games and a few other classics. Its worked well for me.
Not expensive to play but expensive to buy and to collect if thats your thing.
2021: Yup Neo Geo, way, way out of reach. Like i dont have enough organs to donate to come up with the money.
Exactly. If you just wanna play these games, there are ports you can buy or get from the sea if you travel with an eye patch. But if you wanna get the game in your hands to collect, that’s another story haha.
Dude, Metal Jesus, YOU NEED to make more videos with John. I really love watching you guys together and hearing all the info he has on these games. He is by far my favorite guest on your show, don't tell DMP, lol. i would like to see more of John's collection too. YOU GUYS ROCK!
Why would he want to lower himself? Metal Jesus is a gaming legend, John Hancock is a know all wanker, he dribbles a load of garbage half the time and people just foolishly believe him thinking he does know...
I just built my self an OMVS, and I love it!! Taitoc labs, and Tian Feng made this and released it open source to the world. Laser bear makes a case to put it all in. All you need is a MV-1C arcade board, and some slight soldering skills to fix the sound and you have a Neo Geo arcade console! Plenty of guides on RUclips showing how to to do this. You can buy the boards pre-made, or if you have the skill and time you can order the boards from OSH park and build them. The pre made boards are really nicely priced and well worth the it. I built my own because I wanted to, it’s just my jam, and very satisfying (so much SMD, mmmm yes please). Honestly, I probably spent just as much on building it than I would’ve getting it pre made. Any way, I love it! I haven’t read the comments, but probably somebody has mentioned this project. I just wanted to give it a bump because these guys made it and released it to the world and that makes them awesome! I can FINALLY get my Neo Geo on!
UPDATES: 1) The region settings are controlled by the console, not the cartridge 2) you can get much better video if you use the PAL SCART option if available...which will allow you to do RGB
+MetalJesusRocks Did you let Hancock know he has a badass shirt?
+Ironman374 I know :)
+MetalJesusRocks Sony PVM/BVM's are perfect for hooking up SCART.
John Hancock My man!
+Innerself I don't think there's any debate on jesus actually existing.
My NEO-GEO collection is my most prized console collection I have!! I have a full official AES cart collection every AES officially released! (although my carts are a mix of Japanese, US and PAL) I have 39 MVS carts, a full CD games set too, a brand new factory sealed CDZ, a CDZ system I use, a front loader I use and a fully BIOS modded AES system I use, had my NEO collection valued for insurance purposes, £60-70k value! LOVE IT! My full US Metal Slug collection is my pride and joy! The reason why the carts are so big is because each cart was effectively a console its self, the actual home console was just a way of bridging the carts to the TV like an exchanger unit, so the carts are so expensive because your basically buying a "console" every time. Also they cost a fortune for SNK to manufacture, so each cart had an actual production run - SNK would make like 3000 carts and then retire the run so once the game sold out that was it, the only way to get it was on the pre owned market hence why some of the carts are SUPER expensive, the elusive PAL release pf Kizuna Encounter £12,000 it got recalled by SNK so theres only 4 real carts out there, it did reach shelve in Germany and Austria but got quickly pulled, even though the JAP carts ten a penny! And PAL Super Side Kicks 4:U11, which I own :) bought new from Telegames in 1998 is worth a whopping £4-8k. Also my NEOGEOFREAK US side labelled KingOfFighters 2000 cart one of only 100 I think! I bought most of my carts and CDs on release, the most expensive carts was £650 and that was KOF2K way back in 1999 and Samurai Showdown 5 and 5 SPECIAL I payed £500 a piece back in 2003/4 I think it was that being the last official cart SNK released! The NEOGEO AES gone, but never forgotten! :)
I remember reading articles about NeoGeo when it first came out in my monthly subscription to Gamepro magazine back in the early 90s, it was like the Fender Strat from Wayne’s World. Man...my friends and I laughed about it because of the freakin cartridges’ memory size being Soooo much bigger than everything else currently available at the time. Genesis and SNES touted “16Mb huge!” Meanwhile NeoGeo started at like 45Mb with a max of 330, we didn’t even know it went up that high! Considering the cost of memory at that time, it really explains (mostly) the price tag on those carts. My father didn’t even laugh when I showed a magazine ad of NeoGeo to him and jokingly suggested I wanted it for Christmas-he just instantly became visibly annoyed, shook his head and walked away without saying a word. Good stuff.
the max megabit was 716, not 330
@@Shoe3003 That was the 'original' intended max specs from 1989/1990, BEFORE they went up in cartridge size later on in the late 90's and early 2000's... You could put at least 1TB inside it if memory costs went down low enough in the future. That's why the Neo Geo is still so popular even 30+ years after its release!
@@OtomoTenzi i wouLd like to see a Speed Setting and BLood Option addition added to the UNiBiOS for FataL Fury SPECIAL
@@Shoe3003 Oh, hell yes... And a 'cheat menu' option prolly wouldn't hurt either, since there are lotsa newbies from this current generation, who are still not really used to the extremely hard MVS difficulty that we older gamers all had to endure back in the 90's!
@@OtomoTenzi haha yes indeed
The Neo Geo AES was one of my most sought after console. From the sexy look, to the arcade perfect games, large satisfying cartridges, and the arcade like joy sticks, I really wanted this thing. But alas, I can't afford it so I ended up buying a Neo Geo CD with both the Model 2 Joy sticks (two of them) and two of the regular control pads. Games included were Samurai Spirits, KOF 94, and Quiz Fighter. For an extra 130, I picked up King of Fighter 97, 98, some other random game, and Top Hunter (total 730 CAD)! Going to start collecting more and more. Going to focus on my Vita, Saturn, and NeoGeoCd games once I have the chance.
Are the graphics just as good on the Neo Geo CD? Is the problem really only the load times? For me that is worth it since the AES has always been so expensive, but I'd love to have anything that's as close graphics and game playing wise. The load times are pretty slow on some Saturn games but the performance blows away the same title on Playstation (for some games like the Real Bout series).
I passed up a few chances to get a Neo Geo CD on my recent trip to Japan but now I'm looking at them on ebay.
@@CrawlingPanther I bought the Neo Geo CDZ back in 1996. It's a lot faster to load. (About 50% reduction)
SNK is my all-time favorite company... i just love their games and the fact that almost all of their games exist in one universe. My favorite games are:
Metal Slug 3
Blazing Star
Kof 99
Garou
Shock Troopers 1
and many more...!!!
My grandmother got me a Neo Geo Gold AES system for my birthday back in either 1990 or 1991(I just remember having it before the Terminator 2 movie came out in theaters). I did not get a game for it as often as I did a Genesis or NES/SNES game as Neo Geo AES games retailed for $299/each. About 3 - 4 years later, I traded it with someone for a Sega Genesis + Sega CD + about 300 games. heh... I will say, I regretted getting rid of the thing. ---- However, many many years later, I picked up another complete, boxed Neo Geo AES Gold system off of eBay. I still have that system to this day and considerably more games than I used to have back in the 90's.
On a side note, John talks about how Neo Geo US & JPN games are interchangeable, but the game(s) will run in whatever their native region is. The US Neo Geo AES Gold system I have now does not have a UNIBIOS installed... yet regardless if I play US or JPN games, the games always play in the US language/region. As for Neo Geo games prices, they were becoming expensive when this video was released in 2016... but today(2022), most US(Dog Tag) games start around $300+ and most of the more desirable titles average around $2,000 - $5,000... even then, there's a lot over $10k. There was even a US Metal Slug 1 that sold not that long ago for nearly $60k !!!
every man cave deserves an arcade machine
+Locutz M Agreed!
You don't have to be rich to make a mame!
Voivodian 83 you don't need em just follow a tutorial and get a cheap electric saw.
better to have an original tho
I built one and I'm half retarded trailer trash
I love the NEO GEO system
Me2
Neo Geo collecting is like vintage Ferrari collecting for gamers.
+Gobblox Well when people see you drive in a Ferrari think think "damn i wish it was me" when people see you play a Neo they think "damn im happy i dont have one" :)
Gobblox
THE ONLY WAY I COULD AFFORD
THIS AND GAMES.
IS WINNING THE LOTTO.
Ferrari and other shit is for normie plebs
Or its an over rated POS. and for rich pricks too.
Imagine turf masters for Neo Geo costing $30,000 for the cart
I've had an MVS 2 slot cabinet for about 10 years now. I bought it from a skateland that was going out of business for 250 bucks because it had Metal Slug 1 and Samurai Showdown 1. I was so stoked when I got it home, opened it, and realized the games came out It's all modded out now, competition sticks and buttons, low resistance switches, pause button, credit button relocation, internal shelving replacing the coin boxes. Couldn't be happier, it's still one of the favorite things in my video game collection. Great video Metal Jesus!
The NEO*GEO was for the big boys who wanted the best and spared no expense
Nope, arcade fanboys of the more money than brains club. It is consolized arcade hardware.
@@worldhello1234 speak for yourself
Overpriced junk.
In NYC growing up in the 90's I knew a cat few years older, Fabian, he owned a red E30 M3, rocked Polo Snow Beach gear, and guess what, "The Neo*Geo" and Fabian was a white powder dealer. No expense spared.
The immortal is like a happy dog. lovely :) honestly that's a collection and a collector that deserves a lot of respect for his passion and love of the games and their history in general.
Best thing in the video....Johns Snake Plissken shirt
Yes!
I disagree. Snake would not have a shirt with his face on it.
MacReady was better.
I thought it was Big Boss haha
+serge2cool I think Big Boss was modeled after Plissken so you wouldn't be far off.
As a kid, I remember just seeing those prices and not getting it. Yes, it may have been the same quality as a real arcade cabinet, but those were NeoGeo cabinets, which had the cheap games that were like 2 games per quarter. The graphics were nothing compared to most other cabinets. Only as an adult did I come to appreciate Metal Slug, but my local arcade probably didn't even have that one.
I mean to be far an aes is cheaper than a real cabinet
Toys R Us had the Neo Geo back when I was a kid. I still remember seeing those 200 dollar games and the 600 dollar system and wondering how any kid could ever buy something like that.
If you had sega or Nintendo you was cool , neo Geo you was a nerd 🤓
No neo geo you was rich
Deja Vu... I had the exact same experience looking at that thing in Toys R Us. Fuck that Neo Geo and the horse it rode in on.
rich parents
nailed it
Correction: With unmodded consoles, the region of the games will depend on the console only.
Meaning, you can play Japanese carts on your European or US console in the English language.
It's megabits, not megabytes. That 708Mb game is actually 88.5 megabytes (base 10, slightly smaller using 1024 as a kB).
tarstarkusz
It drives me crazy when freaking ISP companies advertise their speed in megabits. Such a cheap trick and people assume megabytes==megabits
Most of it is just marketing BS, but back in the very early days of computing, everything was measured in bits, especially ROM and RAM chips. It's also a race to the bottom. If one ISP does it, then they all have to do it. There's also that magical phrase "up to."
The computer industry has been full of lies (deception, more like). They couldn't even be honest about the size of a monitor! Nearly ALL 14" monitors were about 13", for example.
tarstarkusz So basically back in the 90s, bits was like the biggest thing before MB and GB in gaming? Can you fill me on this please, its weird (sort of).
In the early days, ram was usually 1 bit wide and so you would need 8 or 9 4164 chips to get a single 64kB bank. Each chip was 64kilobits. This was back in the days of the dual inline package or DIPs as they were called. But as to video games, they used to bit so the number would sound big. A 128 kilobyte game sounded MUCH bigger and better as a 1 megabit game. Unfortunately, once one asshole does that, they all start doing it. It's nothing more than marketing bullshit. Which sounds better, having a single dollar, or 100 cents. That is literally what they are doing.
tarstarkusz Wow, so it was just for marketing, lol. After hearing this, that numbers in the Neo Geo cases seem stupid now.
"I'm more of a casual gamer", says the guy who owns 10.000 games, lol :)
Casual gamer. *Hardcore* collector.
@@PCGamer77 and you are a *hardcore* commentator
i own 30000+ ........on my computer that is
@@GenyaArikado digital or physical
@@banananutloaf1094 digital of course...physical games i have aproximately 1000 maybe
Mr. John Handcock was actually mistaken. The region that the game will play matters on that system. So if you have an English system with a Japanese game, it will play the English version.
I've only got a few friends who are like you guys, most people aren't interested in playing anything that came out before the PS2!
(Irritatingly, because I love my retro stuff)
Nice video!
I am an avid Neo Geo collector myself so I know the pain of shelling out big bucks, trying to evade conversions and actually find legit stuff.
just like your friend mentioned - since AES is turning into a stock-market literally people try to evade to MVS thus having an impact on those prices....
Bootleg carts, hahahar... >: D
Also sadly SNK had to file for bankruptcy in 2001 (Dam you Aruze!! thats a whole other story though!) they weren't bought out by PlayMore. The founder of SNK Eikichi Kawasaki started a new company called PlayMore in 2001 knowing the end was nigh for SNK Kawasaki San created PlayMore and when the IPs went up for sale in 2003 cleverly Kawasaki San bought them and renamed his new company PlatMore SNK-PlayMore, so from the ashes of the original SNK rose SNK-PlayMore. Kawasaki San managed to keep the HQ, all the bricks and mortar, logos, franchises, pretty much everything! Aruze tried to drag SNK down but like a Phoenix from the ashes, Kawasaki rose SNK-PM back to its rightful place right up there with the very best!
BOX-BREAKER What a smart man this guy is !
I have great news for you, sir: SNK is fully back to its former glory, albeit they're now focusing on consoles and mobile gaming. They just dropped the "Playmore" branding from SNK and restored their old slogan.
@@kenshinflyer They were bought by the Chinese company, Orient Securities Company (37Games), in 2016. Hardly former glory considering the acquisition was done to gain possession of SNK's intellectual property. It's good if you're hoping to gain access to any legitimate re-releases but the hardware may have secret microchips, given the convenient location of many arcade machines. It's likely a more lucrative direction for said products, overall.
@@brianeych (looking again at my source) I see. Then again, this is still a return to glory of sorts rather than leave it to slowly die.
And, yeah, from where I come from, those SNK Neo Geo machines are still alive and kicking.
Actually, that cart that says "708 megs" that probably means "Megabits" and not "Megabytes", which converting to megabytes is 88.5 MB, which is still a LOT, but well, just wanted to let you know that the game isn't as big as you thought...
Thanks for the information, I was wondering about that. For example, the rom of Samurai Showdown 5 that I have is nowhere near 708MB. Thanks for answering that. 👍
Ryan Amberger No problem ^^
I'm glad you found my info to be useful!
I was hoping somebody had corrected this in the two years since this video came out :)
The same trick is used when ISP advertise their speeds. "200 MEG" etc., meaning 200 Megabits which is like 25 MB.
Incidentally you can usually tell what is being referred to by the notation. "MB" = Megabyte and "Mb" = Megabit. So again ISPs would notate it as "200 Mb/s" in the hope you mistake it as 200 Megabytes per second.
Your isp isn't trying to trick you. Back way before your time, we measured transfer speed in a measurement called _baud._ My first modem was a 2400 baud modem. When it would connect with my isp it would perform a handshake where it would make a bunch of beeps and buzzes. Basically, they (the modems) were agreeing on what protocols and speed to use when talking to each other. The _baud_ number referred to how many times my modem could switch its state per second. Each time it switched it was pushing one _bit_ through. So my modem could handle 2400 _bits_ per second (and in fact, _baud_ simply means bits per second). The fastest consumer analog modems maxed out at 52,000 baud, which at the time felt like it was blazing fast. Modern modems use bits per second too. We have always used bits per second.
And when modems were first being introduced, no one could have told you that 8 bits making a byte would be a thing. In fact, if the Chinese had designed everything there would probably be 16 or 32 bits in a byte because it makes more sense with respect to simplified Chinese. There are eight bits in a byte because that is just about the variation you need to use all the English characters and punctuation. If you simplify it down, you could use a 6 bit per byte system, and in fact many early systems did.
herranton1979
The beeps and buzzes were not from the modem, but from the computer internal speaker. It was a feature to let you know you were going online. It was important to know back in the day when people used to pay for internet access by the minute. The feature could be disabled in the modem settings. Most people didn’t know and just learned to live with the annoying screeching sounds...
Thanks Metal Jesus, this video was very informative.
Neo Geo, Neo Geo. Four bright buttons and two joysticks.
Neo Geo, Neo Geo. Cool red cab and a name that sticks.
No one quite did 2D fighters like you did.
No one quite did runnin' and gunnin' like you did
No one quite did Puzzle Bobble like you did
I'll always love my four slot model cause I, I...
I played that cab for hours on end to the point where that thing was my only friend.
With a heavy machine gun in my hand I beat Metal Slug over and over again.
You're 32 bits of endless fun. You're a 1990 revolution.
You're ahead of the game. You are the best. You're the SNK king of MVS.
You're an attractive machine in a pretty red dress.
When I'm playing as Mai I wanna give you a kiss.
Forget Chun Li when there's Shiranui.
She'll knock you out with those big ninja bee's.
I'm the Samurai Showdown digital god when you're playing against me
and my ninja dog. I'm like Galford with my cool blond hair.
But I don't have a ninja dog. I have a ninja chair.
+Bob Cornhole - Fo sho!
that freakin song made me buy a Neo Geo AES!
I love my Neo Geo CD! I have a complete US collection and even though the loading was terrible, it's worth the price! Under 300 easy on eBay and worth it!! Plus you can mod Neo Geo X arcade sticks to work with it!
Was there ever any possible way of modding the CD drive also to make games load any faster? Would it actually destroy your Neo Geo CD system, or was it that compatible replacement drives with faster reading speeds simply did not exist? 🤔
13:40 Samurai Shodown 5 Special was never ported to any other system. The xbox and ps2 versions you speak of are just the plain SS5 editions.
This was informative, comprehensive, and I learned a lot that I had not already known. I own both Neo Geo and Neo Geo CD systems. I have a few AES carts and only one CD. Thankfully the CD games are still relatively inexpensive so when I get some extra cash lying around I'll be grabbing more to add to my collection. Thank you both so much for this great video. I'll definitely be following John Hancock.
I'm willin' to betcha that those AES carts will prolly outlast them CDs!
It's 2021 Magician Lord MVS isn't cheap anymore
What a great video and thank you for sharing your story about SNK. This takes me back going to my local Babbage’s Store drooling over all those expensive systems and games as a kid.
by any chance is john looking for a roommate?
2:55 It outputted pure RGB video, but unfortunately for the USA, and many other NTSC only regions, we had a hard time displaying that perfect RGB signal on our TV's. Of course now we have some nice options, such as the Framemeister, OSSC, to display RGB through a SCART connector and display out as HDMI HD. Or use an HD Retrovision component (YPbPr) cable to tap into the RGB signal and output onto a CRT or HDTV with component inputs.
this video needs MOAR Reggie. Just have him sit in the background, doesn't matter. He doesn't even need to talk
+8bitDNA All things need moar reggie
+8bitDNA Needs a Reggie nodding in the background with that look on his face like he doesn't know where he is. But he nods.
8bitDNA reggie makes everything better
Just finished watching the video.
I dont really watch 20 minute long videos but this has to be one of the most well explained and edited videos I have come across.
Been playing alot of SNK games on Neo Geo and you taught me a few things! SUBBED!
I had a chance to get an AES with 7 boxed games and two controllers for 450 bucks a few years ago. I'm still kicking myself for passing that up.
Man, I'm so glad I found this channel. Awesome content. Just letting it go on autoplay!
+ProtoGuy thanks so much!!
MJR: "How's it going dude?"
John Hancock: Charlie Brown Adult Noises
Neo Geo is linked to one of my fondest memories of my 20's. June, first year of college wrapped up. I just got out of a bad breakup, and there was an MVS cab on eBay stating bid $99 with 0 bids. It was in Idaho though (we're in Seattle). My Best Friend was home from college (different schools) and said if I win, we willl go on a road trip. So we did! And it was amazing. Road trip with my BFF for a Neo Geo? Took only a day to get to Idaho from Seattle.
$99 is a STEAL... Did it come with any games or accessories?
I did a quick google search on neo geo games and I saw this golf one for 18k, I shit u not
Metal Jesus videos are so in depth. Love catching up on these old eps
The PC Engine (CD) and the Neo Geo AES are the two best systems ever released.
tetsuokenpachi What about Wii
😆😂
Awesome video! This is probably the best MetalJesusRocks video I've ever seen. The Neo Geo is the holy grail of hardcore gaming.
I'd have to give that honour to the rdi halcyon
soo expensive!!! i love the Samurai Showdown series and Metal SLUG Series!!!
I love my AES. I've accumulated a pretty decent number of games for it through my store, eBay, Amazon, flea markets, and a couple through garage sales. It's always fun to bring relatives and friends to see by collection and watch them react to the size of the cartridges. It wasn't until I started working my current main job that I was able to really flesh out my collection.
Hey man you could always just get the SNK Classic Arcade Collection on the ps2. the CD has 2 volumes and 12 titles each
I could, Tony, but what's funny is that I have SNK Classics Arcade Collection Vol. 1 and Metal Slug Anthology on the Wii. I don't mind having the same game on multiple consoles, as my three copies of Resident Evil 4 will attest to.
He really reminds me of Dale (John C Reilly) from Step Brothers.
I've looked online at Neogeo's and still do every now and then, when I'm in the mood (like a minute ago, after watching this video) but they're out of my price range.
As far great collections go, I really, really like the Real Bout collection on PS4. That is, Fatal Fury Battle Archives vol. 2, which is actually a PS2 collection available as a sort of backwards compatible download game on PS4, online via PSN. What I love about it though, is that you can play perfect, (almost) zero load time ports with the CD music. So it's basically combining the AES and Neo geo CD versions of the real bout games. In my humble opinion this makes the versions on this collection essentially the best versions of the Real Bout game there are. As far as I know at least. Even the Sega Saturn versions, which use the 1 meg ram cart and have the CD music, still have some load times making even those slightly inferior. They might also lack some frames of animation but I'm not sure about that; I know that the Saturn SamSho versions do lack some animations.
Even so, the dream of one day getting an actual Neo Geo hasn't died yet.
@AgentBoolen Games That's something too, I have some good memories playing Metal Slug 2 and KOF 96.
He pretty much sum'd it up with the first statement Neo Geo "Expensive Crap" lol. The Arcade was awesome but the price tag they launched the Neo Geo console at was insane.
+Bayou Boy Entertainment fun fact: it was the same as the PS3 at launch
and people complained about that!
Neo Geo launched at $643 in America and PS3 was $499. Neo Geo at $643 in the 90s was insane for them to think it would sell well back then that'd be like shelling out $1000 for a console in todays market.The SNES and Sega were like $200 at the time why they thought they could comeout with a system that had a $400 markup and do well I'll never understand. It's documented also that Sony didn't make a profit on the PS3 til they dropped the price.We had the Neo Geo arcade at one of our local restaurants in Louisiana and I loved playin it but unless your family had a ton of disposable income back then no way a kid could talk his parent's into getting the home console for them back then.
So much nostalgia with these Neo Geo games. Never owned the console myself but I sure wanted to. I remember thinking as a kid it would be like spending all the time I wanted in the arcade without the quarters
What's the best way to sell neo geo games? I have the US AES version of Ninja Commando and was not sure if listing and shipping via eBay was the best route?
most likely that - forums like neo geo com are toxic and Facebook neo geo groups are not always beginner friendly either
what did u end up doing? just curious.
I play AES and NeoGeo CD as well as X. I think the NeoGeo X handheld is one of the most underrated handheld consoles in existence. It’s a fantastic machine and i playa air just as much as any of my other handhelds. I rarely dock it to play on TV screen, but when I do, it’s enjoyable as well. Nothing beats AES though.
This is really informative, thnks!
+Eraquz So glad you liked it!
+MetalJesusRocks I think it awesome you answer the comments you rock!
+Greeneyes2475 Correct. The Sega Genesis/Mega Drive also works this way. If you put a US copy of Streets of Rage in a US Genesis the title screen will say "Streets of Rage" but if you put the same cart in a Japanese system it will say "Bare Knuckle".
+Ryan Wing Yes for most Genesis / Megadrive games the region is dictated via console.... but not all 100%.
Not like the NeoGeo :-)
agreed! i love that MJR is entertaining and informative
John Hancock has something a bit more special then he realizes. Samurai Shodown V Special was not released on the Xbox or in that anthology on PS2/Wii/PSP. Those only had vanilla SamSho V.
I remember reading an explanation about 10 years ago. As the final Neo-Geo release, SNK wanted to keep it, well, special.
NeoGeo Mini now available in North America!! 40 games for $109
On the ol' late night metal jesus viewing, love all the info etc! my grandpa's job/hobby was in arcade machines, had a huge privilege of play-testing his machines back in the day, metal slug forever!!!
Really cool. I just bought a working MVS cabinet with about 50 carts from a local store that just closed. I paid $130 for everything and was looking to see what I'd gotten myself into.
Chris Dodd Sounds like a hell of a deal you got
Chris Dodd If the cabinet works, you're good
I had to replace the monitor and most of the control switches. I also replaced the plexi glass on the marquee and control surface repainted and printed new decals. I sold my US Last Blade 2 AES cart to pay for the project since I have an MVS version, and my wife wouldn't let me spend extra money to work on it.
Neo Geo home market shit is garbage imho, just get a real mvs cabinet and you win for 1% of the cost. Even with the multicarts.
MVS and AES cartridges are electrically compatible, just the physical interface of the cartridges of an MVS doesn't fit an AES. Easily fixed with a simple straight-through adapter.
Digging John's Snake Plisken shirt. Escape from New York is a lot like a Metal Gear game
During the heady days of the Console Wars, I often heard about the Neo Geo, usually as a side-article in a gaming mag or something. I never had a good understanding what it was, what it looked like or how it played. Very informative video.
that samurai Shodown had me savagely ploting back then. would go insane trying to find a way to aquire $900 for the system and cartridge .
unfortunately after boosting now&laters from the corner store and selling them in school for three months never lead to me getting the system.
I eventually started using the product I was boosting and wasting part of the profits while slumbing at the arcades dropping quarters on shinobi and Street fighter 2. arcade
Metal Jesus videos are so chill. It's like therapy.
Hi Jason, Hi John... Great Video as usually. But you forget the Mighty Neo-Geo 64.....greetings from Germany
Last Blade 1 & 2 are two of the most visually appealing fighting games I've ever seen. And the game-play is really fun! By far my favorite SNK titles! All the KoF games are great too..
Ive still got my Neo Geo Cd and I dont mind the loading times. Lots of today games have loading screens, so, it doesnt bother me much, plus its much cheaper to get a nice collection
I remember I considered this the holy grail of consoles when I was a kid. It was also pre internet era so I only would see ad's in gaming magazines and was shocked the games cost more than every console of the time!
The games were hella expensive, but they were worth it that's fer shure!
You miss the NeoGeo Pocket Color!
+Eduardo Enrique I thought about adding that to the video. Maybe we should do a Buying Guide?
i still have a sealed rockman pocket fighters. Dont even own a neo geo pocket color anymore
I've got one with pretty much those games too. I liked card fighters clash the best. I got both snk and capcom versions.
+Eduardo Enrique I don't miss mine ;-) lol
Don't forget the Neo Geo Pocket CD!
love to see john and his awesome collection and knowledge, allways a treat to watch
*It got moldy and i had to throw it out*
_"Ok cool"_
Came across your channel a few days ago, great stuff. Definitely do more videos with john. Very informative and easy to listen to.
+1 on the Software Ect. sticker on the Neo Geo memory card :)
+John Riggs: RIGG'd Games I used to work there back in the day
John Riggs: RIGG'd Games it said the memory card cost $29 back in The day.
Never played a lot of these great games as it was before my time. As a gamer, I am looking back at what I missed and collecting the gems I would love to play one day.
This system being one of them, is going to be expensive n_n has so many great arcade games and I only learned about it last year.
And how old are you now, BTW?
My brother is a diehard Neo Geo fan--I am not-- but I soooo regret
not collecting the Neo Geo games and systems during the early years, and I'll
explain to you why. First off, Neo Geo WAS NEVER CHEAP. Even during its first release
and during the 2008 recession, when collectors were trying to scrounge for cash
anyway possible, Neo Geo was very expensive! Neo Geo was always seen as a
premium home replacement alternative to arcade systems--and rightfully so as
the game quality is top-notch and similar to an arcade experience. I regret not
collecting for the Neo Geo because today all its games nearly quadrupled in value--and
its homebrew games SELL for thousands of dollars! If you Ebay most games, and
check the SALES HISTORY, Neo Geo stuff is hitting some incredible sales prices!
Keep in mind, some Neo Geo games sell for thousands of dollars and are being
sold for thousands of dollars--no if ands or buts. So MY SMART BROTHER WHO BOUGHT GAMES WHEN THEY
WERE CHEAP NEARLY BECAME A DONALD TRUMP OVERNIGHT. Lucky him! He was smart and
invested in a very desirable game console!
"Neo Geo was always seen as a
premium home replacement alternative to arcade systems--and rightfully so as
the game quality is top-notch and similar to an arcade experience."
Seen by whom? It is consolized arcade hardware so much for the premium marketing gibberish. The games are pretty good but for the most part nothing to call home about as far as I can tell.
The problem is the fanboys of yesteryears are the inflators of nowadays.
"He was smart and
invested in a very desirable game console!"
Are you sure everything was planed?
Just go the CMVS route and buy only games you really enjoy. It costs still a few hundred bugs but at least the games are relatively cheap.
Both the MVS and AES Neo-Geo systems were released in 1990. This was in both Japan and the USA.
Nexus of Ice That's incorrect. They were sold in time for the holiday season 1990 in the U.S.. I bought a USA Gold System for $550 from a U.S. based video game company who advertised in Electronic Gaming Monthly. My dad also bought me Top Player's Golf ($170) for my big XMAS gift that year. The company even included a free $30 memory card.
You're not alone. Many people think that. Despite trying to fix this in Wikipedia, they keep changing it back. I'm guessing very few people owned a USA Neo•Geo Gold System (2 controllers + either Baseball Stars Pro or NAM-1975).
I do have proof as well.
My receipt for the system. Purchased on 12/18/1990
www.videogameobsession.com/neogeo/neo-scans/Neo-Geo_Gold_System_Sales_Receipt_12-18-1990-vgo.jpg
And snapshots from a video of me opening it all on XMAS 1990
System
www.videogameobsession.com/videogame/zz-other/origins/Neo-Geo_Unwrapping_Xmas_1990.jpg
Baseball Stars Pro
www.videogameobsession.com/videogame/zz-other/origins/Neo-Geo_BBSP_Unwrapping_Xmas_1990.png
Top Player's Golf
www.videogameobsession.com/videogame/zz-other/origins/Neo-Geo_TPG_Unwrapping_Xmas_1990.png
Nexus of Ice I helped out with a book called Neo•Geo A Visual History, and they got the dates right in their. It's also the only book of its kind fully authorized by SNK. I highly recommend that book BTW. It has a ton of amazing photos which were scanned from SNK which have never seen the light of day until now.
Nexus of Ice
Many people think it was released here in 1991 because that's when SNK was finally able to break into the brick & mortar retail side. It was Fall of 1991 when both Babbage's and Electronics's Boutique added the system and a handful of games into their Holiday catalogs and stores. The Gold system price jumped up from $550 to $650 and the games went from various prices, which were dynamically priced based on the ROM size (from $129 to $170) to a flat $199.99 on all games despite the ROM size.
It's too bad, because I think they would have done much better with the $500 system price and with some games as "low" as $129. League Bowling was one such game which was $129. Still one of my faves too.
Another great video, any new recent pickups? or has it got to the point where your man cave will implode?
+Tim Ward Funny you should mention that.... Reggie comes over today ;)
+MetalJesusRocks awesome!
should I buy a Gameboy advanced SP, I heard there is lots of good games
I love the NAM-1975 censorship. I wonder how that conversation went.
"Hey we just talked to the marketing guy over in . They said the leg and cleavage isn't going to fly."
"We already had those inserts printed though and it wasn't cheap"
"Give me that". "There. Fixed."
Wow, I'd never thought I'd see a hobby more expensive than model railroading!
every time I see John in the thumbnail I grab my notepad. you guys are great metal Jesus has great questions and the immortal has the amazing knowledge :D keep up the awesome work love you guys
kinsey lookin good in that plaid dress
Sega Surfer Stop that.
that's actually a respectful tame comment.
kinsey bro😋😋😋
I was lucky enough to inherit from a good friend his neo geo collection. He was really into at the time buying most of the great games. I’m only missing one or two but they’re so expensive that I doubt I’ll ever afford them
Got KOF 2000?
I can never tell if Jason is acting or if he's genuinely oblivious to everything.
Glad I was alive and had the pleasure to experience one near the release. The high price was the price you paid for arcade perfection. God this console kicked every console out of the water, it's just a shame it was for rich folks that could easily fork out 150+ each game.
It was 400 where I lived.
"I'm sure this video isn't going to help."
Old video I know, but to chime in I purchased a Neo Geo at Babbages shortly after release with Magician Lord and Ninja Combat....for $199 a game. I beat Ninja combat an hour after purchase. Bummer. But what was cool was that I was able to get as far as I could with Magician Lord at home, save it to the card, and then go to my local arcade (Fun N' Games in NJ) and continue where I left off. Save it after passing some hard level and bring it home and continue. This was necessary because the "home" version of the game used to either start you from the beginning of the level or the middle when you died (as far as I recall) which made it really difficult to beat the level. But in the arcade, you simply pop in a quarter and keep continuing exactly where you were.
SNK got my money on the console, game, and card...and then my quarters on top of that!
I want that Snake Plisskin shirt
Ninja Combat, Super Spy, Windjammers 2, Aero Fighters 2. I never played a AES but spent a lot of time in arcades in the early 90’s. Neo Geo machines were a staple back then.
I regret selling my NEO GEO AES back in 2002. I put the stereo mod into it as it should never be heard any other way. Had the rare metal slug carts too... :/I got good money for it, but compared to now, feeling a wave a nausea.
+The Dollar Guy Bet you can't buy that for a dollar.
Haha. :) I bet you are right on that one.
That collection is amazing. Thanks for sharing it! I'm a huge Retro Gamer, grew up playing Intellivision/Atari, NES & my favorite of all time the Sega Genesis. I never had a chance to play the NEO GEO but those games looks beautiful! Totally reminds me of Sega Genesis but it looks even better. What an amazing system. I'll have to get one and try out a few games :) Thanks,
I love how John always smiles. He seems like a nice guy.
Hyper Neo Geo 64 is a real hidden GEM. Samurai Spirits 64 & Buriki one are amazing. Beast Busters is a real fun aswell!