Telecaster Neck On A Stratocaster Body?
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Can you put a Telecaster neck on a Stratocaster body? What about the other way around... can you put a Stratocaster neck on a Telecaster body? Here's the simple answer.
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The gods have spoken! I must get a tele with a strat neck!
...so a Telecaster Deluxe!
Nice! Brief, to the point, visual... great! And thanks!
Thanks Jim. Visual was the key to this one. If you try to type out the explanation in a Facebook post, it turns into a TLDR; :P
Excellent video with clear concise information. The T and S jig really illustrates the concept in simple empirical analysis. Thanks. Not arguing any point but I have a T neck on S ‘ocasta and although saddles had to be moved toward nut I was able to intonate it..plays well sounds nice but not the belle of the ball. I know I shouldn’t say this…I still want to square them shoulders in the pocket to make the neck snug up in there!
I had heard about the fit/non-fit issues with tele and strat, but this is the best and clearest graphic explanation and demonstration. Now I know! Thanks for the work you put into this video!
Just a top notch video. Quick, illustrative and informative.
Thank you for this ! I'm dreaming of a telecaster with a strat neck. I know I'm gonna get one now !
Sanding the strat neck heel radius on a tele neck heel is very simple and quick to do. Tele necks look "right" on a strat while, IMHO, strat necks look "wrong" on a tele. YMMV. You can also reshape the headstock on the strat to the tele profile. Easy to do if you have a large 70's headstock.
Hey Dan. Yep, as I said, you can modify a Tele heel to the radius of a Strat heel. But it's kind of like cutting slots in a spoon to make it a fork :)
Mike Potvin: resulting in the dreaded spork.
Good point!
But i gotta say that the tele that clapton used to play when he was with "blind faith" is a pretty cool instrument!
Fender custom shop just "reissued" it btw
When all's said and done? Putting a tele neck onto a strat can be done, and easily. Reshaping the heel ever so slightly on the corners so it sits deeper would take under 5 mins. It most certainly does not facilitate a need for buying another different neck.
So, rest easy, you don't need to fret about shelling out for a different neck.
If you can even be crafty enough, you can reshape ONLY the lower half of the heel that rests in the pocket, and leave the top revealing as it's original shape. This would make the tele neck usable on the strat, or also able to be removed and put back on a tele. The only issue will be the screw holes. NO?
sanding is what i'll do then. nice video, thank you
Right on Feller, those were the details I needed to know.
I'm glad it was helpful 🙂
Yay! I have a telecaster but always liked the way the strat neck looked so much better. So all I have to do now is go buy a strat neck
I was just about to buy tele neck for strat... wanted more thick neck 😄 Thanks
Tele necks aren't thicker than Strat necks. You can either one with a thicker profile :)
@@PotvinGuitars well i mean spot where you grip it
This was so very helpful! I have a failed build with a beautiful Wenge strat neck from Warmoth, and I was thinking of using it on a Tele body with tele pickups. Nice to know what I'm up against. (I really don't care about the unsightly spaces.) Thanks so much for a brilliant demonstration that really leaves no doubts as to possible issues.
Glad I could help!
Thanks for this helpful video! I almost bought a baritone telecaster neck for my StratAcoustic and now I know it will not work. I will look for a stratocaster baritone neck now that I know.
You're welcome, I'm glad it helped!
Super simple and helpful thanks
Great explanation & video, but I might add that many MIM (Made in Mexico) strat and tele bodies have neck pockets with rounded, radiused cutouts in the lower corners, allowing the squarer tele necks to fit in strat bodies, completely reaching the end line. Of course, you may still have a slight gap between the round pickguard cutout and the neck, but it's small, and you can hide that somewhat with some tape on the body, white or black, depending on the pickguard color.
I have a Strat with a Tele neck, My brother used to have all his guitars like That. since past away (Roland Bautista)
I've gone the route of routing the pocket to square it off for a tele on a strat with much success but not on a vintage or valuable instrument
I'm about to do the opposite on a body I don't want to use a pickguard on!
Thanks, I have just that issue, on my GGBO2021 guitar, saved me, from making a mistake, Im, good with a small gap, know where to finish now, LOL Thanks!!
“you might as well sell this and buy this” makes sense until you find a baritone tele conversion neck used for $100 as opposed to the $300 subsonic strat neck
Mike, I’d love to see a video of you setting up an angled neck pocket with your wedges. I’m using them, but can’t help feeling I’m taking the long way round the barn.
good, too the point easy to understand.I was given a nice maple telecaster neck which I put in a alder strat body. I just like u say rounded off the heel of the neck and it fitted like a glove. didn't have to change the intonation or nothing
Good teaching technique. Thanks !
thanks, very helpful 👍
No problem, glad it was helpful!
If you know what you're doing, it would be easier and quicker to modify the Tele neck to fit the Strat pocket rather than selling and buying the "right" neck. Plus, some people want a Tele neck on a Strat body because it is interesting.
You're right- if you have the know-how, skills and equipment, it is possible. I'm not saying you *can't* make it work, or that you *shouldn't* . I'm just pointing out that this is literally a case of "making a square peg fit into a round hole".
Nice explanation
Thanks Geoff!
Well I just did it because the holes lined up and it fits absolutely perfect except for that one spot so I will restring it, then set it all up and see how that goes. If it only causes an intonation issue, that can be solved by moving the saddles. The one problem I am expecting is the pickups now technically being in a slightly different position. But I think it’ll be all right, unique perhaps.
That’s my question. I don’t think intonation issues make sense as an argument for guitars that have adjustable saddles. Isn’t me lengthening/shortening the string effectively changing the scale length?
Answers my question 😎👍🏻
I put telecaster necks on Stratocaster bodies but i buy new body that is hard tail, route the pocket to fit telecaster
Yes, please post more videos! Well done, indeed.
Thanks!
I can only reiterate what others have said as this is something I have thought about doing but did not have the prior knowledge regarding the feasibility. Great vid. Great demo. Just need to be a little more open minded why someone would like to do it. Eg, love Telecasters, love Strat bodies but was never sold on the look of a Strat head stock.
It's not that I'm closed to the idea of swapping necks Dave. If that idea appeals to you then I say go for it! I just made the video because I get asked this question a lot. I mean, A LOT!
I can only imagine that question must become irritating but I’m glad that your vid has at least put the question to bed for me and also saved the time, money and hassle of getting 2 necks to carry out the necessary checks. Now for the next irritating question ‘can you make a thin metal template to attach to a tele neck that exposes the material to remove’. I thank you once again for the great information in your vid. Perfectly conveyed to the masses. Cheers. Dave.
By "thin metal template" do you mean a template so you can reshape a Tele heel into a Strat heel? If so, my standard Strat neck template would do the trick. Drop me an email if you have any template questions :)
Thank you!
You're welcome!
great video
I sanded my tele neck to fit my strat body because I like the tele headstock look, and wanted a hybrid zombie guitar. . . I know. Vanity
Mixing and matching is great fun 👍 Build what you like!
Nice! Do more videos, Mike! Suggestion: tips and tricks for using your jigs. Wish you could do one that answers the question "where did I put my Potvin Cadillac template?" :)
Thanks David. If there's enough interest I may try to answer some more of the questions that come up a lot. As for finding the templates you just had in your hand a minute ago... I haven't figured that one out yet :P
Great video! Love your designs. OR get a paddle headstock. and the proper heel.
Hello sir 🙏 hopefully your alive and doing fine! I was wondering if strat neck would fit on telecaster body! Today through your video well it can 😀 thankyou 🙏❤️
Great visual!! Thanks
rule 1----use a 22 fret neck.......rule 2---Strat neck fits in Tele pocket.......rule 3---to use a Tele neck in a Strat body modify the piece that is cheaper, a modified Tele neck will still work in a Tele pocket and a properly modified Tele pocket in a Strat body will still accept a Strat neck, which piece is replaceble if you screw up ?
A "modified Tele neck" is a Strat neck ;)
jchavins this may sound like a dumb question, but what is the benefit of using a 22 fret neck vs. a 21 fret. Always wondered. I'm still learning about guitar building. Just when ya think you know enough, another question pops up! Lol...thanks for any help!😎
@@74dartman131 extra note? People make a really big deal about it but thats really all there is to it...
@@ajg8600 ok.☺
@@74dartman13 it's not just another note like AJ G said. Most 22nd fret from 22 fret necks overhangs from the heel. This means that if you swap necks, (like what this video is about) let's say strat neck to tele body, the small gaps will not be visible because the 22nd fret will cover it up.
Hi, could you sand down the corners of the body to flatten the bottom of the pocket? Thanks
If you mean can you sand the corners of a Strat neck pocket to turn it into a Tele neck pocket, then no that wouldn't be possible. You could use a Tele neck pocket template and router to do it though.
Thanks for the vid, very clear explanation. I happen to have a Tele neck that is visually stunning together with a Strat body I've finished, and it also has the nicest satin finish on it, plus I'm refretting it with stainless frets, so in the light of that, buying a Strat neck that meets those same specs will take some hunting. I think sanding actually makes more sense in my particular case.
Any tips for the best way to shaping that Tele neck heel? Off the cuff, my thought is to place a Strat neck heel up against the Tele neck heel so the outmost lines are flush, and then transfer the Strat contour onto the Tele neck heel, and then file/sand to match that line. Smarter ways?
Sanding would certainly work, ideally with an edge sander where you have both hands on the neck so you can control how quickly you remove material. Keep in mind, if the neck is finished you'll need to deal with refinishing/matching etc.
@@PotvinGuitars That makes sense, good tips - thanks again!
With a power sander of any sort, it would take just a couple of minutes to make a tele neck fit, and there is actually a reason you might prefer the tele neck (narrower at the nut usually) and a strat body (pickup configuration, tremolo bridge, etc)
aye im golden then my Strat neck comes in soon
Is sanding such a big deal you’d rather spend money over making what you have work? Different trains of thoughts I guess
It's not that it's a big deal Sam. It's more of a case that if a job is worth doing, why not do it the very best that you can? You're right, it's just two different philosophies :)
@@PotvinGuitars how would one sand it? How far from the edge of each side (on the tele neck) needs to be sanded?
So if I round off the bottom of the tele neck to fit the strat body, will my intonation change at all?
What about fitment in ... The Mickey Mouse route on late 80's -90's Strats ??? I'm not sure when they stopped doing that or if they did.
Wasn't it for the tilt neck thing they had.?? I don't have any newer Strats so I have no idea.
Thanks.
Selling your Tele neck and buying a Strat neck makes more sense to you, rather than ten minutes with a file and some sandpaper? Kids have it so easy today.
You're right Rick, I've only been building for 17 years, and making my living as a full-time professional builder for a little over 12 years now, so I'm sure I can learn something from an old-timer like you ;)
@@PotvinGuitars Did you know new production Tele necks are rounded and don't require modification? OF COURSE! YOU KNOW FUCKING EVERYTHING.
call me stupid but, given that both necks align at the nut, wouldn't you shorten the overall scale if you removed wood from the tele heel at its corners, for it to slide deeper into the pocket ?
For the case of a Tele heel in a Strat pocket, the neck is pushed *away* from the bridge so the scale length is too long. Knocking the corners off by rounding the heel (without removing anything from the center) allows the T-neck to slip in and bottom out in the S-pocket. Make sense?
@@PotvinGuitars got it, thanks
Nice info bro! How about left-handed telecaster neck on right-handed telecaster body? Is there any problem to install them?
Nope, no problem. They both have the same heels.
@@PotvinGuitars thanks for the reply bro! Appreciated a lot! Cheers!
Why don't Fender just make a design change to either the neck(s) and/or body cavities so that both the necks are instantly interchangable.
Pretty simple. But Fender just don't listen ..ever....mind you, neither do Gibson.
Just get a Yamaha and be done with it 😉
Can you not stand corners away on the tele neck without removing any product from the centre. Keeping scale length equal ??
Ged Mallon it can be done
Why yes. Yes you can.
Very informative Mike.
Thanks Lou!
Jazzmaster = Strat neck?
What about routing of chisel out the strat body to fit the tele? Could THAT be done?
Great video & subbed you !! :)
I'm slowly building an "offset tele" (telemaster/jazzcaster) so its a jazzmaster body with a reverse headstock tele neck.
Other than bridge positioning does it make more sense to reshape the neck heel? I was planning to re route the neck pocket.
Thanks.
I assume the body has a Strat pocket? Both options work well assuming the body isn't already painted. If the body is already painted, definitely re-shape the neck.
Bro, i love that idea. I love frankenstein guitars
good video, how about same tele neck but different frets; 22 fret vs 24?
I might be wrong, but I think 22 fret necks are basically a 21 fret neck with an overhang. They have the same heel, so everything in the video applies. I *think* 24 fret necks are actually longer necks (no overhang) and so would not intonate correctly even if the heel fit properly.
@@PotvinGuitars thank you for the reply!
Tel and Strat pockets are different, so beware. A neck from Warmoth, etc. may be made up for a Tele, but be a Strat neck if you want that.... but you have to tell them !
Doug, did you actually watch the video? The whole point of the video was illustrating (literally!) that Tele and Strat neck pockets are different. :)
@@PotvinGuitars He is right ... A strat neck has 2 tiny gaps inside the pocket, but the intonation and playing will remain fine. A Tele neck heel in a Strat pocket creates multiple problems.
@@PotvinGuitars ... A smarty-pants 'loaded question' reply does not help viewers. Just make your point. A rounded Strat body pocket will hold a Strat neck heel. A Tele squarish heel is for a Tele neck heel and will also hold a Strat type heel..
@@DougHinVA Hey Doug, it's 4 years later and I still don't know what you're getting at. I wasn't being a smarty pants, sorry if you took it that way. I made a video explaining that Strat and Tele neck pockets are different, and what does and does not work in terms of swapping them, and I think I made my point, no? I see you've edited your original comment, but in the original you were sounding like you hadn't actually watched the video because you were explaining to me basically what I had just said in the video. That's all I meant :)
I have a strat neck and got a flying V body custom cut, but the seller of the body didn't listen to me when I said I wanted the route to be for a strat neck. He cut it for a tele or flat base V neck. My neck has overhang so it covers the gap. But it's a little tad loose in the slot, side to side. Sort of rocks a, how would you recommend I look at shimming it, both sides or just one side?
You know, the point is, a Tele neck feels better, and a Strat body has more tonal qualities (to many ears). Clapton did it, why can't you? Rounding off the Tele corners seems easy woodworking, so.... I need someone to git 'r done.
Thanks for your thoughts Dave. To be clear, I never said you *couldn't* do it, just that it's really a convoluted way to get a neck on your guitar. You can pound a square peg into a round hole, but that doesn't mean it makes sense to do it ;)
Clapton truly did it, right? What more rationale could there be? His "Frankenstein" Strat had Tele neck, and I want one, too. Not just any "neck on your guitar." A Tele neck.
Cool! Go for it :)
I saw a different video where someone routed the body pocket to accommodate the tele neck shape. The neck retained its stability and finish that way. Of course, we're not talking vintage or valuable instruments in that case, but it's another way to go...
Tele necks feel better than strat necks? I wouldn't say so... Depends on the shape you're used to depending on the shape of your hands and fingers...
dumbproof.. best informative video on youtube XD
Slap on some duct tape, some super glue, or shove in some wedges and your student bolty can indeed use the wrong neck...lol! Or you could get a job and buy a good guitar, or get the right neck.