@@Marstatoy as a ONCE I find it very strange how you can hate on Lia knowing how it can hurt an idol mentally. You know that Momo received so much hate for her singing abilities, theres even videos highlighting how "bad" she is. That was horrible. If you don't like Lia then move on. Put this passion into something good like supporting your faves.
this. also it was really a small mistake compared to what can happen in such a hectic choreo. I didnt even notice it when I watched the performance to be honest
The fact that @Liapple had to make this video just to shut the haters down is just sad. Idols are humans too so obviously they are prone to errors. This video is a great explanation and ought to shut the haters for a while.
Its crazy how using the wrong leg 1 time can throw off the spacing so much. Even trying to correct it didn't work. Have a strong appreciate for kpop choreography.
honestly, I just feel bad that it happened to Lia because everyone makes a big deal out of it and, if it was any other member instead, nobody would care that much
I mean, I disagree. Being at a wrong place for the ending pose, especially when they’re supposed to be completely aligned, would still be a big deal, because it’s incredibly noticeable. Unfortunately it happened to Lia, and maybe it became a slightly bigger deal than it would for other members, but it would still be pointed out and talked about, regardless if it was Lia or not, because it was such a noticeable mistake. Not saying she can’t make mistakes tho, I love her. I’m just disagreeing with your statement.
@@thetrashinyourbasement7898 I’m not saying she didn’t got the position wrong. She did. But it feels like everyone’s waiting for her to do something wrong so they can criticize it. Again, She got the position wrong, yes, but when Lia makes a mistake it’s because she’s a bad performer, however if Ryujin have made the same thing people would say she had an off day or something.
@@parangaricutimirriro oh fair enough I agree. With Lia they’ll say it’s cause she’s a bad performer and doesn’t know what she’s doing, with the others it would be just a simple mistake, everyone makes them. Yeah that is true, it’s unfair for Lia, cause she’s not the only one who’s ever made a mistake.
I think you're misinterpreting the intent of the video. Kpop idols are pretty much expected to be perfect in Korea and the mistake she made was very noticeable (which is why this video has over 200K views in less than a day) and people have been dragging her since the debut because of her dancing, I think Liapple just wanted to show the mistake wasn't fully her fault and that she has been improving.
I was also confused because she did the steps at the same count and length. Turns out the stage was maybe too big, Their positions compared to other performances were wider, so it’s really hard to adjust if you cannot see
Lia says that the shoes she wears on stage are bigger than her feet. imagine dancing perfectly, having a stable vocal, dancing with an uncomfortable shoe and having to do facial expressions at the same time ??? she is a human !! we will not judge what we don't know
@K-pop is LIFE Lia gets hate for being the weakest dancer of ITZY, bc ITZY is a team full of very strong dancers, Lia who doesn’t have as much skill in dancing or training with dancing is noticeable when she dances and she receives a lot of hate for that
Liapple wasn't trying to insult Lia though, I'm pretty sure Lia is their bias. They were just trying to see what went wrong, they understand it was just a small mistake and if you scroll through the comments, you can see them liking comments saying it wasn't a big deal and they will still love Lia. They even said in the video that they understand it was a mistake. They were just trying to see what happened
@@hJ-fv6mz I think they are trying to point out the people that bash idols for insignificant mistakes, because those people always try to find ways to hate on someone for the smallest things. Not sure though.
@@hJ-fv6mz I was saying that this kind of videos make idols feel over examinated and dehumanized. Imagine doing something on a music show and having 5 different yt channels analizing your steps, comparing you to other idols, to other times when they were performing under different circunstances, and having +10 cameras pointing at you. "bUt ThAtS kPoP tHeY sIgNeD fOr iT" and that's the problem with kpop right now. It's not normal nor healthy, and it's being normalized and glorifyed when it should be radically changed.
I was also confused because she did the steps at the same count and length. Turns out the stage was maybe too big, Their positions compared to other performances were wider, so it’s really hard to adjust if you cannot see
i'm glad to see that she's okay and still happy. JUST HATE THAT PPL BLAME ON LIA AND HER DANCE SKILL WHEN SHE'S NOT EVEN DANCE AT THAT TIME IT WAS JUST A MISTAKE. like y'all we're in 2021 gRoW uP
That’s how it looked on stage and I hope she’s not bothered by it behind the stage. It makes me sad whenever idols feel so conscious of even small mistakes. I’m like that too so I know how hard it is for them when they make a mistake.
actually, She got confused because the other made a mistake. She was trying to keep on adjusting and matching it not realizing that the other have gone to back with the right choreography. And Idk i believe she only have eyes on the front like a normal human being. like i’ve said they all did their best to show a great performance for midzy. And they will always try to do things 110% regardless of the situation. Thanks for supporting Lia & Itzy i’m their lawyer . . . . . Lol jk but really thanks!
It’s so mad how even the tiniest things can change the choreo a considerable amount. Just goes to show how much thought and effort the staff and performers put into their work :O
I was also confused because she did the steps at the same count and length. Turns out the stage was maybe too big, Their positions compared to other performances were wider, so it’s really hard to adjust if you cannot see
The comment that said Yuna should have just went behind her, there’s no way Yuna could’ve fixed herself because she has to go with the beat and the others too and they all know their position so they have to do the crown movement very fast like 0.1 secs after Yuna does it so there was absolutely no time to do that , there was no time for them to all move up more left to Lia, Lia was still too far from them but everyone makes mistakes, its absolutely FINE to make mistakes like this, its so fine, Lia still rocked it and us Midzy’s love her still 💜
I initially thought yuna should have moved as well but you are absolutely correct it wouldn’t have been enough time to adjust without her being off beat for the final pose and messing everyone else up too
Exactly. Plus in order to do that, not only Yuna has to stand behind Lia but the other 3 members should adjust their positions as well. So that’s more likely impossible to do in just a few seconds and in a live performance. I think at some point she noticed that she made a mistake and thought that she fixed it, but it’s not a big deal to tell the truth.
Yes it would’ve, some of y’all have never been in a physical performing art & it shows. For the 2 steps into the crown position, you can see her looking down & taking very small steps to align with the center of the stage. Had she been looking at her relation to Lia instead she would’ve saw that she wasn’t behind her far enough & could’ve adjusted by the 2nd step if not already the first. Lia was not too far at all lmao, only about a foot & even if Yuna didn’t make it all the way it still would’ve looked better if she attempted to. This is not me bashing yuna, I get that it’s really easy to get caught up on numbers or landmarks when doing stuff like a choreo & it’s great during practice. But they’re just a guide, during a performance you have to pay attention more to your surroundings & the people around you as they’re more important. It’s a good lesson for her to learn, hopefully in future performances they’ll focus more on their relation to each other rather than the stage. Ppl are still correct in saying she should’ve adjusted
@@Coooolcal it would’ve easily been possible, she took very small steps that could’ve been larger, lia was not that far. It’s ok though, the stage itself was confusing & that’s what the root of the issue was
I dance thats why i said what i said and attempting to bash that fact has nothing to do with the fact that yuna was simply thinking about the other three people behind her so lets stay on topic. Imagine trying to hit your mark on beat and on bended knee while trying to adjust your positioning even if it was less than an inch off. She along with everyone else could have done several things differently but instead of messing everyone else up yuna like the great team player she was took the mental note to let one be slightly off instead of everyone else.
1:24 That’s the important part. In other performances she goes one full step and one half step to the left before her last Who is the Mafia part. This time she went two full steps to the left. So when she goes back to the right and sits down she isn’t in the middle. That’s it. Not a big deal. Lia is still a Queen
Yeahhhh, since she (of course) couldn't see her back, she didn't know she was too far. It's such a simple mistake and tbh, it's kinda cute! She's a queen! Now and forever :DD
I don’t think OP made the video to be unfair, hateful, or mean to Lia or Itzy. They prolly found it interesting LOL. As a dancer myself, it’s always cool to see how others have such tiny but significant details in their choreography and how it affects the overall
same especially for someone like me who doesn't get to dance in formation a lot, i rlly found this video rlly interesting, but i guess most ppl in the comment section j felt that this video is made to insult Lia lol
it's amazing too, cause we see that she has perfectly memorised her steps (with a slight change in foot position). since the centre was moved too left, her entire routine went too left, and it's so cool to see how her body memorised the choreography like that. they're so hardworking & cute!!
This alone kind of shows just how many times they've practiced the choreo and how its all down to muscle memory, one tiny mistake where someone isn't centred can change everything. It honestly makes you appreciate their efforts more when they make mistakes like this considering how many times their performance is perfect.
I honestly didn't pay attention to this whole explanation I just can't get over how STUNNING Lia looks in that red outfit. Are you guys seeing this??? Stunning stunning
And some people say she's unprofessional 🥴🥴 1. How was she able to know that she wasn't aligned with the other members when she can't see them and 2. That was only 1 performance. She did it perfect on the others 😌
The only problem is People tend to overlook one mistake even she did perfect to other stages. People remember your mistakes but not the time you did good.
People just hate her because she doesn't have itzy vibes just like jisoo in bp but at least jisoo is professional and never did any mistakes or maybe once in a while
@@avocado1635 her situation is more like Jennies since people bash them for stupid reasons about their dancing but Lia is still professional by continuing on so...
@@shiloh8734 If we be honest yeah he/she is exaggerating,Lia is not a good dancer but she is a good singer,every humans in this world have their weak and strong point💞!I don't understand some people in the comments section saying that "idols are not perfect they are humans too"and then they said that Lia is good at everything😶......
Poor baby 🥺 as a blink and a midzy I am tired af of this shit honestly like those couch potatoes be sitting on them couches and commenting shit bout our queens
I was also confused because she did the steps at the same count and length. Turns out the stage was maybe too big, Their positions compared to other performances were wider, so it’s really hard to adjust if you cannot see
@K-pop is LIFE it's most likely because she's the weakest dancer in a group full of trained dancers. It's easier to see her lacking because of that. She has improved and I applause her for keeping up with the other members. But if we are gonna talk about criticism, both of them gets a fair share of it too. Just it's more different
@K-pop is LIFE shes claimed to be the weakest but honestly.. she had a lot to bring to the table.. first off... Nice visual, Nice voice, Sweet and funny personality, good at rapping, fluent in English so she can easily communicate with international fans who speak English and understand them well without confusion... Another thing... She is under a label in the big 3... That's honestly a really big accomplishment... Getting into jyp is like getting into Atlantic records or Columbia records in America.
Looked like almost everyone was struggling in position at some point. Was just unfortunate that Lia's misposition(is this even a word lmao) was at the end and was much more noticeable
It's a small mistake, but even so. We didn't know what's going on behind the scenes after that mistake. Gfriend Eunha even said that she got scolded the whole day when she forgot to use her mic for .0001 seconds on a live performance. That's a small mistake but for agencies, it's not. I hope Lia didn't get the same treatment as other idols who got scolded a lot by their agencies with this kind of small mistakes.
This just shows how detailed ITZY's dances are, small details are really important in the formation. And that's okay tho, everyone makes mistakes, were all human after all, its normal. edit: I'm back to this vid after 3 years and remembered that it's actually not Lia who made a mistake, it was yuna HAHAHAHHA
@@saraichance I don’t know about you I honestly think that she knew I mean she practices for the dance a lot and you know they do the choreography over and over again and so I think she knew what she had done wrong and this is not me trying to like be mean to you it’s just what I think
This makes me appreciate all their hard work even more than I already did. It’s amazing all the minute details and exact positioning/steps they have to memorize and execute perfectly on stage while singing, focusing on their expressions and often wearing uncomfortable clothes that aren’t made to dance in. Crazy!! Their hard work and dedication to their craft continues to inspire me
Am I the only one actually glad that they make mistakes from time to time because they're literally SO perfect most of the time and it's easy to forget that they're actually not robots.
I love how Midzy's always love lia, cheer and support her because there are some overreacting or toxic fans who just want to point out unnecessary things or whatever
I believe that such toxic fans exist in all fandoms. Such people are no true fans. So people who do such stuff aren’t Midzys. Nice to see all the positivity.
bruh I'm just enjoying her cuteness. I don't mind if she makes mistakes. of course I appreciate her effort but how can i hate her? she's the cutest and the best.
@@jiminsextravaganzaofelegan7736 Why would you come all the way here just to say you don't think she's cute? If your opinion can hurt someone's feelings, keep it to yourself.
As a dancer, the rule is to follow the one in the front even if she's off the center bc it's true, you can't see behind. But still it's just a small thing, our girls put a lot of effort to bring us the best, I think it was cute. ♡
that’s true but i would like to also disagree because each person should know their responsibility. i’m a dancer too :) my teacher said “always know ur responsibility and don’t put the blame on someone else. no matter what ur position is, u need to do it right so that u wouldn’t ruin other people’s hardwork and the choreography”. i’m not saying it’s anything severe or talking about lia tho ! i just quoted what my teacher said and it is just a miscalculation mistake in lia’s part :3 it’s fine !
either way it would be impossible for yuna to adjust herself, she would have to do that in less than a second and still influence three other people behind her. she followed the choreography and stayed in the right position in which she should be, i really can't see how it was her mistake
As a professional dancer, this is being over analysed, how you go from position to position doesnt matter as long as you are on time for the next move. Unless it was choreographed as a pas de bourré there is no issue it really depends on which leg you have the most weight on and if it's the left then your right will move and vice versa. Lia also cant see behind her so even if the spacing and centre has been set, she ultimately decides where the final position is. However as I said this is an over analysis.
As someone who does dance I completely agree with you. It's the "panic about the next step" that usually makes me get these kind of mistakes. Ofc she could have slipped and placed the wrong leg mistakenly but that doesn't have to do with the whole choreography. The stage size is different compared to the dance studio one so it is likely that she thought she didn't want to bump into anyone since there is no mirror in front to them. but no one can deny that lia is a great dancer :D
I would say the way you move would affect the blocking, and unless you can find your marks again in the next formation change, you rely mostly on your muscle memory which includes how much your muscles remember moving for that particular move. Especially if the way she moves during stage runs is different from the way she moves during the actual show. From this video you can see that moving with her leg behind the other keeps her profile forward, hence her profile and sight more open to her line and forward, and it also limits the distance she moves (more towards the back than the left), while having one leg in front of the other moves her more left than back, and limits her sight. When we do shows we usually spot the center stage and marks above our eye view (etc the wall clock at the back of the hall or a particular spotlight). That's easier for us because these spots are stationary. It's way more difficult for them because they also have to focus on spotting the moving camera so a slight adjustment to the blocking during the actual show would affect the blocking for the rest of the show. Which is why they have to rely on each other and play by sight (to follow whoever should be centre and adjust their blocking accordingly on the spot). I'm not saying she made a fatal mistake. All I'm saying is that it might seem over-analysed but there are also several other factors to consider.
For kpop dancers i think they aim to be the most accurate though. No adjustments no impromptu etc2. Thats what they were trained to do. Everyone has their own specific place to be so technically Lia made a mistake.
@@lol-ot4pn dancing does not change no matter who is doing it whether it be me competing, beyonce on stage, or kpop stars. It may be Lia's mistake, however, she can not see behind her so they consequently have to follow to where she is. This is a set rule in the case a mistake happens so that it is not obvious, it keeps the formation and the positions seamless even if yu are off mark. You can not be looking on the floor for markers, or you're going to ruin the dance, and/or injure yourself or somebody else.
@@lol-ot4pn I also dont think you realise how bright stage lights actually, even on as small a stage as the one they are dancing on. She may have made the mistake, but oksalayo, she is centre front so she sets the position.
Actually they are all right except for Ryujin's over walk. Observe the steps, Lia is just suppose to take 1 step. The problem is the stage is too big unlike in practice and she can't see herself. Yuna on the other hand can't adjust because Ryujin, Yeji and Chae will get confused. I think it all started with Ryujin, I think Lia saw her adjust so Lia made an adjustment too which did not complement each other.
Exactly... People always wanna know the reason Lia made that mistake I mean leave her alone, she probably doesn't even wanna talk about it, probably she felt embarassed...
@@Marstatoy aha, so you can't express your opinion more respectful right? Even if you're old enough, you still have a 8 year old mind. Probably they think even better than you do. Throwing hate at someone just to bring them down... Pfft- you're gonna end exactly like a depressed child because you couldn't bring her down 🥺 Get lost kiddo
As an amateur dancer who performs annually in groups I can tell you that mistakes like this are some of the most difficult to correct, especially when you are in the front lines and end up blocking your colleagues' view
@K-pop is LIFE because she's not specialized in dancing like the others are so haters think it's ok to judge her for that sadly. Jyp scouted lia SPECIFICALLY for her vocals so it's not surprising that dancing isn't her strong suit(and I mean no disrespect to her by stating this). I can't imagine how stressful it must be and how much pressure she's under being in a group that's mainly dance oriented. She continues to improve every performance and her making a mistake doesn't change that. Wish haters would leave her alone smh
It's true that it's Yuna's responsibility (even though Ryujin shoved them off center) which is probably why she was making that cute face lol like "oops....rip Lia's over there." but to be fair Yuna wouldn't have noticed Lia wasn't going to move to center until too late and was already in the correct spot herself so there'd be no use scooting over. It's too bad people 'blamed' Lia when really it's not an uncommon sort of mistake. Adjusting travel distance to the stage size can be wild lol But anyways, very interesting video! Love this break down of dance stuff and differences between different performances!
Why is it Yuna's responsibility? She even lead them back to the center when they missed the center? And she positioned herself in the right center... If she did adjust to Lia, the whole choreo for the ending would just end up mess because they will miss the timing...
@@lyn0055 Yes. I think we agree here? You're saying basically the same thing as me lol. Sorry for any confusion. I meant it is technically each individual's "responsibility" to watch the person in front of them and line up. However, Yuna did the best she could and was already centered and probably didn't even have time to notice Lia wouldn't make it all the way in front of her. I don't mean it's Yuna's fault or she should've done anything different. my comment is basically saying "yes those behind should try to line with those in front but can't always do it and that's just what happens sometimes"
@@soshimochi556 "yes those behind should try to line with those in front...." What? This is the first time I heard that rule. Cause those behind should do the fixed dance, and should never to line with those in front just to conceal the front people/person mistake.
@@mineandonlymine "should never conceal their member's mistake?" Bruh this ain't a competition, they are a group and covering each other mistakes is the correct thing to do. No one is blaming Yuna or another member, but your last statement is incorrect and shows just how much you want Lia to fail and take the blame for it. Grow up
@@cheeryberrie PLEASE QUOTE MY WORDS COMPLETELY. You've changed my words into a whole different meaning. I said, "should never to line with those in front JUST TO CONCEAL the front people/person mistake." Conceal another's mistakes is alright in some cases, and but not at the moment. The conceal that dancers need to do is to place the member who do mistake in the right way, not following them and create another chaos. And when did I say that Lia should take all the blames? Ryujin had it too. But I didn't mention her because my purpose was to correct SoshiMochi's statement, not to put the blame on member(s) just like your suspection to me. Grow up, little lady.
Now I realize even more how hard it is to be a dancer. Not just the Choreo is hard also to keep the speed and the position and remember those steps and to sing on time
I will never understand why in kpop if an idol makes a mistake they are criticized for it. I prefer them to not be perfect, I don't care if mistakes are made. They dance and sing much better than everyone else who criticizes them anyways.
As a dancer, I appreciate this so much. When there are competitions, formations and the effect of the steps on them is really emphasized by the coaches. Thanks for doing this!
recuerden que Lia hace su mayor esfuerzo y sincronizar a la hora de bailar, ya que ella misma dijo que no era buena bailando (cosa que es totalmente no, pq, para mi, baila más que bien y se nota en cada cb q ella se esfuerza lo necesario para hacerlo bien) además que ella tampoco tuvo los años de trainer como lo tuvieron las demás chicas, y aún así, son las reinas de la 4ta generación, stan itzy, stan arte gente💗
Some people are so used to idols' presentations being perfect (you know, that's the image the Kpop industry wants to show almost every time, perfection) so when something like this happens they make a big deal out of it, when in fact it's a human mistake everyone can make. Remember, no one's perfect so don't expect others to be always the best.
i think it's normal for lia to make mistake since the choreography was hectic and maybe something else too and the members seems tired too and they just laughed it out which is i am really relief, lia really improved a lot for mitm and im so happy for her 🥺
Am I the only one that likes when idols make mistakes?? It’s good to know that they aren’t perfect and it kinda gets boring after a while when they do the perfect all the time😭😭. It’s also really relatable
i like how informative this video is. it makes you pay attention to the little details of the choreography even more, and that's a good thing especially if you're trying to learn the dance but struggle with the details. making mistakes like these are normal and sometimes necessary in order to really understand or grasp something (in this case the choreo). whoever heavily criticizes lia for this is someone who's afraid to grow because it is through or mistakes that we're able to learn and improve ourselves.
@K-pop is LIFE probably because she isn't the most skilled dancer. its kind of sad tho bc she trained as a singer and jyp pushes difficult choreographies onto her :(
@K-pop is LIFE she's good at dancing but since the other members are really good dancers of course, you're gonna see a difference, but that doesn't mean she can't dance.
this kind of mistake is completely normal, specially if the stage has equal straight lines. As you pointed, even Ryujin had to adjust her position at some point of the choreography. Since they are a team, the blame is not on one single person, people who are in the back should think fast and adjust to whoever is first in line. Actually, at first I thought that was on purpose, to show Yuna as ending fairy LOL
Yeah... I guess it's mainly Yuna's fault... she looked tired. Everyone else was just following Yuna's *back* but Yuna wasn't looking at Lia... she was looking at the floor or spacing out or something... hehe
@@fatchoppedsalad2950 I was just inferring based on what Liviahel said because it makes sense. It's a team effort and the dancer in front doesn't really have time to look back so the dancers at the back should adjust. Ryujin, Yeji and Chaeryeong adjusted based on Yuna because they were looking at Yuna but if you watch *Yuna's eyes* she wasn't looking at Lia, so she wasn't able to adjust. No bias here. Just making sense of what happened.
@@onionutube no yuna and others were in the correct position, right in the center. Yuna didn't know Lia would make a mistake. And there was no time for her to adjust to Lia. If she had moved to Lia they wouldn't have able to make the last pose correctly. This was just a mistake in lias side not yuna. U were really being biased by blaming it all on yuna.
@@melannydayrethratliff1309 Criticism is inevitable. What I mean here is that lets not focus on the negatives. There is so much room for improvement but some people are just too perfect to acknowledge that mistakes do happen.
Constructive criticism is good. Destructive criticism is bad. This video is a good example of constructive criticism, although I do not believe the channel owner created the video with the purpose of giving Lia pointers. However, we can see how they did not make any personal attacks or degrading statements towards Lia while staying neutral on analyzing what exactly went wrong during this stage. But we know that this is just a mistake the team made once out of the several performances.
I feel like if that were me in her group and I saw that she was off centre I would have still gone to the back of her!! They’re a group it’s not just one member that will look out of place they all will.
Wow, it's really fascinating to know how even just one mistake in the choreo could set off a domino effect on the whole dance. I also don't think it was Ryujin's mistake here because in the original video she was right in the center of the camera. I think she had moved to fit center with it, while it was moving to take a semi side shot.
Im not a dancer so the hell I care. Didnt recognize any mistake in different MITM videos because I cant even dance any of ITZY's insane choreo... I just love watching them singing and dancing...
@@polvolindo1682 Algunas personas dijeron eso porque se suponía que debía terminar la coreografía frente a Yuna. Las otras chicas estaban en la posición 'correcta', así que la gente decía que fue su error, pero en mi opinión no es culpa suya porque no puede ver lo que está pasando a sus espaldas.
it’s always LIA’S dancing that gets criticized. literally it’s a small mistake and she’s so self conscious about her dancing just fucking drop it. it wouldn’t be a big deal to the people who do this if it was any other member
I used to dance and perform so I agree. As the one in front, you can’t see the dancers behind you. It’s very common and very normal for Lia to make that mistake. Usually the dancer behind should be the one that adjusts their position but due to the unexpected circumstances, I’m sure Yuna is also flustered and surprised. It’s no one’s fault. Good job ITZY.
thankyou! this video give me a lot of information. As non-dancer i never know that such a small step is really important. can't imagine how hard idol practice to do the correct dance step----even when they're singing. i appreciate them more now!
for me, it wasn't her total mistake: - She was in the front, so she is the lead.Other might aswell followed her at the back and leave her alone( team mistake ). She also cant turn her head just to adjust her position, as that might look weird asf, esp when you are a professional - If you can see it carefully, she isn't connected with any members. Meanwhile, CR and YJ are connected with RJ, and RJ connected with Yuna(the crown pose). This will gave her a hard time positioning herself. - We can take this as a genius move. This is their 3rd win for MITM and 37 win for overall. Lia's position shape the number'7'. 3rd win + 7 shape= 37 wins! - She also can be the mafia as she done it different from the others. Before this happen, Hello 82 made a online mafia game with Itzy where as Lia as the first mafia wannabe. Right after that, she did this.
It's okay. Lia is still a professional performer. BTW, I admire your explanation and appreciate your effort in researching. We still love and support Lia. She will continue to improve. We all have the chances to imrove and develop.
The thing is stages are weird, some don’t have the marks that idols follow and other are so big that it’s different from a practice room. Even ballerinas have to adjust so much to the stage because is so different
It just proves that dancing is hard af. Haters who can't dance have no idea how much they work and how small details matter. all kpop groups make mistakes. Lia is as amazing as awlays ♥
Lia's mistake makes it very relatable to the fans that Idols are humans and not robots, gives Itzy and Midzy a closer connection
for real!! love Lia and Itzy
@@Marstatoy as a ONCE I find it very strange how you can hate on Lia knowing how it can hurt an idol mentally. You know that Momo received so much hate for her singing abilities, theres even videos highlighting how "bad" she is. That was horrible. If you don't like Lia then move on. Put this passion into something good like supporting your faves.
@@Marstatoy BRUH UR NOT A TRUE ONCE ITZY AND TWICE ARE BESTIES WTH IS GRONG WITH U LIA ISNT A ROBOT SHE IS A HUMAN
@@Marstatoy Can't you even sing and dance like lia
@@Marstatoy you’re just jealous that Lia is younger than u but even more talented than u ! So shut up :)
The way Lia is still stable on singing make me proud of her cause she improved her dance a lot and her facial expressions rn
@K-pop is LIFE some people say that she lacked on dance and expression but I love her so much
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@@ShineBright506 what?
@@ShineBright506 she is not lyp syncing uhmm
it's normal tho. Itzy always served us with such a perfect performance so its okay if they make a mistake at least once lmao
this. also it was really a small mistake compared to what can happen in such a hectic choreo. I didnt even notice it when I watched the performance to be honest
The fact that @Liapple had to make this video just to shut the haters down is just sad. Idols are humans too so obviously they are prone to errors. This video is a great explanation and ought to shut the haters for a while.
@@AdityaD69 agree bestie
Periodt.
Yehhh it's normal
Its crazy how using the wrong leg 1 time can throw off the spacing so much. Even trying to correct it didn't work. Have a strong appreciate for kpop choreography.
True
Very true
I don’t even think it was the one leg that threw it off, it was that they kinda shifted from the center of the stage because of ryujin
@@LL-sp9nb EXACTLY EXACTLY
@@LL-sp9nb I don't think so
honestly, I just feel bad that it happened to Lia because everyone makes a big deal out of it and, if it was any other member instead, nobody would care that much
exactly!!
other members also made mistakes in this stage as well yet only lias is being pointed out
I mean, I disagree. Being at a wrong place for the ending pose, especially when they’re supposed to be completely aligned, would still be a big deal, because it’s incredibly noticeable. Unfortunately it happened to Lia, and maybe it became a slightly bigger deal than it would for other members, but it would still be pointed out and talked about, regardless if it was Lia or not, because it was such a noticeable mistake.
Not saying she can’t make mistakes tho, I love her. I’m just disagreeing with your statement.
@@thetrashinyourbasement7898 I’m not saying she didn’t got the position wrong. She did. But it feels like everyone’s waiting for her to do something wrong so they can criticize it.
Again, She got the position wrong, yes, but when Lia makes a mistake it’s because she’s a bad performer, however if Ryujin have made the same thing people would say she had an off day or something.
@@parangaricutimirriro oh fair enough I agree. With Lia they’ll say it’s cause she’s a bad performer and doesn’t know what she’s doing, with the others it would be just a simple mistake, everyone makes them. Yeah that is true, it’s unfair for Lia, cause she’s not the only one who’s ever made a mistake.
Tbh it don't think it was a serious problem though and Midzy will not stop loving Lia as ALWAYS
Lia is cute. It done.
ok??
? No one said Midzys will stop liking her..
I think you're misinterpreting the intent of the video. Kpop idols are pretty much expected to be perfect in Korea and the mistake she made was very noticeable (which is why this video has over 200K views in less than a day) and people have been dragging her since the debut because of her dancing, I think Liapple just wanted to show the mistake wasn't fully her fault and that she has been improving.
It just contect no hard felling.. appreciate for editing.. hug
the fact you analyzed all of this just want to know why that thing happened make me touched for no reason lol
omg saame
me too
Same as if they don’t want to have starting rumours of Lia again, it’s really kind
sameeee
We gotta be advanced. Lia fans are traumatized alrdy lol
No one is perfect. It's normal for people to have mistakes sometimes and it's not even considered an issue. They're humans, not robots. ☺️
lol even robots make mistakes, let alone humans
I was also confused because she did the steps at the same count and length. Turns out the stage was maybe too big, Their positions compared to other performances were wider, so it’s really hard to adjust if you cannot see
Oh hi kpophoney lol
you are so right, the fact that there are people who actually blame idols for making mistakes, just piss me off so hard
All group have do some mistake...
Lia says that the shoes she wears on stage are bigger than her feet. imagine dancing perfectly, having a stable vocal, dancing with an uncomfortable shoe and having to do facial expressions at the same time ??? she is a human !! we will not judge what we don't know
Uuuggrrh the stylish again ?? Seriously ??
true. have you seen skz'z shoes. they're huge
@@caramelpopcorn6649 because they're smoll
Kidding.
@@rhzlxhanne8432 true true but those shoes look so scary to dance in
@K-pop is LIFE Lia gets hate for being the weakest dancer of ITZY, bc ITZY is a team full of very strong dancers, Lia who doesn’t have as much skill in dancing or training with dancing is noticeable when she dances and she receives a lot of hate for that
This is why idols have anxiety.
Liapple wasn't trying to insult Lia though, I'm pretty sure Lia is their bias. They were just trying to see what went wrong, they understand it was just a small mistake and if you scroll through the comments, you can see them liking comments saying it wasn't a big deal and they will still love Lia. They even said in the video that they understand it was a mistake. They were just trying to see what happened
@@hJ-fv6mz I think they are trying to point out the people that bash idols for insignificant mistakes, because those people always try to find ways to hate on someone for the smallest things. Not sure though.
@@hJ-fv6mz I was saying that this kind of videos make idols feel over examinated and dehumanized. Imagine doing something on a music show and having 5 different yt channels analizing your steps, comparing you to other idols, to other times when they were performing under different circunstances, and having +10 cameras pointing at you. "bUt ThAtS kPoP tHeY sIgNeD fOr iT" and that's the problem with kpop right now. It's not normal nor healthy, and it's being normalized and glorifyed when it should be radically changed.
what
@@uzer7_7 It takws you less than a minute to read my reply 💖💖
The person who noticed this mistake should be a dance teacher. I totally did not notice the mistake coz they hid it so adorably (:
Not the creepy smile.
@@Marstatoy what’s wrong
@@Marstatoy ayo wtf
@@Marstatoy stfu
@@Marstatoy girl don't even call yourself a ONCE because TWICE literally loves ITZY lol...
Let's just appreciate Liapple giving us all these contents these consecutive days. Thank you, bestie❤
Ryujin is mine😔
@@loren9837 ours😔
@@keithsy153 but actually mine 😔
I was also confused because she did the steps at the same count and length. Turns out the stage was maybe too big, Their positions compared to other performances were wider, so it’s really hard to adjust if you cannot see
I always see you in the comments of liapple's vids this is a real supporter here
Lia be like: Oh look I made a mistake.. *continues with confidence and also ignoring it*
I love Lia so much🤧✨💕
i'm glad to see that she's okay and still happy. JUST HATE THAT PPL BLAME ON LIA AND HER DANCE SKILL WHEN SHE'S NOT EVEN DANCE AT THAT TIME IT WAS JUST A MISTAKE. like y'all we're in 2021 gRoW uP
That’s how it looked on stage and I hope she’s not bothered by it behind the stage. It makes me sad whenever idols feel so conscious of even small mistakes. I’m like that too so I know how hard it is for them when they make a mistake.
I wouldn't care either if I could sing as good as her. Yeah I missed my spot but none of you can sing like me 😌
Yes!🥺 I'm very happy and glad for her to have this mindset and personality
actually, She got confused because the other made a mistake. She was trying to keep on adjusting and matching it not realizing that the other have gone to back with the right choreography. And Idk i believe she only have eyes on the front like a normal human being. like i’ve said they all did their best to show a great performance for midzy. And they will always try to do things 110% regardless of the situation. Thanks for supporting Lia & Itzy i’m their lawyer
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Lol jk but really thanks!
It’s so mad how even the tiniest things can change the choreo a considerable amount. Just goes to show how much thought and effort the staff and performers put into their work :O
0:01 lia did not actually made a mistake, she just spoiled upcoming 6th member of itzy
A ghost?
NAURRR
It's me 🤫
@@ranny8935 LMAO
@@scarlett9750 no it’s me
The first time I saw that video I didn't see that Lia was in the wrong position. I just thought it looked like that from that angle... 😅
Same bro same! 😅
totally me
I was also confused because she did the steps at the same count and length. Turns out the stage was maybe too big, Their positions compared to other performances were wider, so it’s really hard to adjust if you cannot see
same, and i was confused when i saw it trending on twitter.. 😂
me too lol
The comment that said Yuna should have just went behind her, there’s no way Yuna could’ve fixed herself because she has to go with the beat and the others too and they all know their position so they have to do the crown movement very fast like 0.1 secs after Yuna does it so there was absolutely no time to do that , there was no time for them to all move up more left to Lia, Lia was still too far from them but everyone makes mistakes, its absolutely FINE to make mistakes like this, its so fine, Lia still rocked it and us Midzy’s love her still 💜
I initially thought yuna should have moved as well but you are absolutely correct it wouldn’t have been enough time to adjust without her being off beat for the final pose and messing everyone else up too
Exactly. Plus in order to do that, not only Yuna has to stand behind Lia but the other 3 members should adjust their positions as well. So that’s more likely impossible to do in just a few seconds and in a live performance. I think at some point she noticed that she made a mistake and thought that she fixed it, but it’s not a big deal to tell the truth.
Yes it would’ve, some of y’all have never been in a physical performing art & it shows. For the 2 steps into the crown position, you can see her looking down & taking very small steps to align with the center of the stage. Had she been looking at her relation to Lia instead she would’ve saw that she wasn’t behind her far enough & could’ve adjusted by the 2nd step if not already the first. Lia was not too far at all lmao, only about a foot & even if Yuna didn’t make it all the way it still would’ve looked better if she attempted to.
This is not me bashing yuna, I get that it’s really easy to get caught up on numbers or landmarks when doing stuff like a choreo & it’s great during practice. But they’re just a guide, during a performance you have to pay attention more to your surroundings & the people around you as they’re more important. It’s a good lesson for her to learn, hopefully in future performances they’ll focus more on their relation to each other rather than the stage. Ppl are still correct in saying she should’ve adjusted
@@Coooolcal it would’ve easily been possible, she took very small steps that could’ve been larger, lia was not that far. It’s ok though, the stage itself was confusing & that’s what the root of the issue was
I dance thats why i said what i said and attempting to bash that fact has nothing to do with the fact that yuna was simply thinking about the other three people behind her so lets stay on topic. Imagine trying to hit your mark on beat and on bended knee while trying to adjust your positioning even if it was less than an inch off. She along with everyone else could have done several things differently but instead of messing everyone else up yuna like the great team player she was took the mental note to let one be slightly off instead of everyone else.
1:24 That’s the important part. In other performances she goes one full step and one half step to the left before her last Who is the Mafia part.
This time she went two full steps to the left. So when she goes back to the right and sits down she isn’t in the middle. That’s it. Not a big deal. Lia is still a Queen
Yeahhhh, since she (of course) couldn't see her back, she didn't know she was too far. It's such a simple mistake and tbh, it's kinda cute! She's a queen!
Now and forever :DD
I don’t think OP made the video to be unfair, hateful, or mean to Lia or Itzy. They prolly found it interesting LOL. As a dancer myself, it’s always cool to see how others have such tiny but significant details in their choreography and how it affects the overall
same especially for someone like me who doesn't get to dance in formation a lot, i rlly found this video rlly interesting, but i guess most ppl in the comment section j felt that this video is made to insult Lia lol
@@예림-s7d because everything lia does is insulted or overanalyze.
it's amazing too, cause we see that she has perfectly memorised her steps (with a slight change in foot position). since the centre was moved too left, her entire routine went too left, and it's so cool to see how her body memorised the choreography like that. they're so hardworking & cute!!
@@brandyjohnson738 This person wasn't even trying to insult her though
@@brandyjohnson738 Yes over analyze, but the video was actually informative, most of it doesn't even count as a critique
This alone kind of shows just how many times they've practiced the choreo and how its all down to muscle memory, one tiny mistake where someone isn't centred can change everything. It honestly makes you appreciate their efforts more when they make mistakes like this considering how many times their performance is perfect.
the mistake is not a big deal. the big deal is that are you even seeing how hot lia look with that red suit? I can’t handle it
I honestly didn't pay attention to this whole explanation I just can't get over how STUNNING Lia looks in that red outfit. Are you guys seeing this??? Stunning stunning
Yessss
kudos to the stylists
I only focused on that too. And the hair omg can you see that. Such a perfection!
And some people say she's unprofessional 🥴🥴 1. How was she able to know that she wasn't aligned with the other members when she can't see them and 2. That was only 1 performance. She did it perfect on the others 😌
The only problem is People tend to overlook one mistake even she did perfect to other stages. People remember your mistakes but not the time you did good.
@@LeaLeaA7 yess yet, bcause this is lia, everyone is just mf harsh to her. it is so saddening :(
Yes, this is right and I'm pissed of people eyeing on her doing mistakes. Like yeah, she was wrong but it can't always be perfect.
People just hate her because she doesn't have itzy vibes just like jisoo in bp but at least jisoo is professional and never did any mistakes or maybe once in a while
@@avocado1635 her situation is more like Jennies since people bash them for stupid reasons about their dancing but Lia is still professional by continuing on so...
Yuna trying not to laugh and failing miserably sends me HAHAHAHA
I am still a Lia stan. Nothing will change and I am really proud of her.
Same
Seriously this isnt even a big deal. More than half of the world's population can't dance the way she does lol love you Lia
More than 99.9999% lol
😂😂okay, you’re exaggerating.
@@shiloh8734 No she is not.
@@shiloh8734 If we be honest yeah he/she is exaggerating,Lia is not a good dancer but she is a good singer,every humans in this world have their weak and strong point💞!I don't understand some people in the comments section saying that "idols are not perfect they are humans too"and then they said that Lia is good at everything😶......
@@justatroll1012 agree🖐
Poor baby 🥺 as a blink and a midzy I am tired af of this shit honestly like those couch potatoes be sitting on them couches and commenting shit bout our queens
OHHH I’m blink and midzy too,so i understand you very well
Also a blink and midzy and I totally get what you're saying 🥺😔
I was also confused because she did the steps at the same count and length. Turns out the stage was maybe too big, Their positions compared to other performances were wider, so it’s really hard to adjust if you cannot see
A multifan here, even robots make mistakes so why is it so bad if humans do it?
@@hoori. omg exactly!! From now on I'm gonna say that to people who attack idols for simple mistakes
Yuna TRYING NOT TO LAUGH IS THE FUNNIEST THING IVE SEEN THIS DAY😭
@K-pop is LIFE it's most likely because she's the weakest dancer in a group full of trained dancers. It's easier to see her lacking because of that. She has improved and I applause her for keeping up with the other members.
But if we are gonna talk about criticism, both of them gets a fair share of it too. Just it's more different
I WAS WEAK
@K-pop is LIFE shes claimed to be the weakest but honestly.. she had a lot to bring to the table.. first off... Nice visual, Nice voice, Sweet and funny personality, good at rapping, fluent in English so she can easily communicate with international fans who speak English and understand them well without confusion... Another thing... She is under a label in the big 3... That's honestly a really big accomplishment... Getting into jyp is like getting into Atlantic records or Columbia records in America.
i agree that lia couldn't see her back and that's why she made a mistake, but asking yuna to move will made the mistake even worst
I feel like the other members made little mistakes which led to lias. no ones in the wrong I find it cute lmao
Looked like almost everyone was struggling in position at some point. Was just unfortunate that Lia's misposition(is this even a word lmao) was at the end and was much more noticeable
It's a small mistake, but even so. We didn't know what's going on behind the scenes after that mistake. Gfriend Eunha even said that she got scolded the whole day when she forgot to use her mic for .0001 seconds on a live performance. That's a small mistake but for agencies, it's not. I hope Lia didn't get the same treatment as other idols who got scolded a lot by their agencies with this kind of small mistakes.
Wow, this just made me appreciate idols more. The level of precision they have to master to keep everything in sync.
This just shows how detailed ITZY's dances are, small details are really important in the formation. And that's okay tho, everyone makes mistakes, were all human after all, its normal.
edit: I'm back to this vid after 3 years and remembered that it's actually not Lia who made a mistake, it was yuna HAHAHAHHA
I was just gonna comment basically the same thing. Mind blown at how intricate details their dances have and how it all comes together!
liapple: everyone makes mistakes it's not a serious matter.
also liapple: investigating what went wrong in lia's performance
me after saying i’m fine :
I mean even if you make mistakes it's still good to know what went wrong for next time
@@saraichance fr. I don’t know why these 10 yrs old fans r so mad when liapple is basically an ultimate itzy fan channel out here lol.
It’s good to know as a fun knowledge. U don’t realize bcus ur too dumb and ugly to understand LMAO
@@saraichance I don’t know about you I honestly think that she knew I mean she practices for the dance a lot and you know they do the choreography over and over again and so I think she knew what she had done wrong and this is not me trying to like be mean to you it’s just what I think
ITS OKAY WE STILL LOVE LIA 🥰🥰🥰
This makes me appreciate all their hard work even more than I already did. It’s amazing all the minute details and exact positioning/steps they have to memorize and execute perfectly on stage while singing, focusing on their expressions and often wearing uncomfortable clothes that aren’t made to dance in. Crazy!! Their hard work and dedication to their craft continues to inspire me
Am I the only one actually glad that they make mistakes from time to time because they're literally SO perfect most of the time and it's easy to forget that they're actually not robots.
no because when they make mistakes their managers and company scold and reprimand them
@@ayahabbas8804
Exactly.
Fans like to say theyre human and we love them and all that rainbows and butterfly bs when in reality its a job.
@@lol-ot4pn i understand what's your point & the fans saying they're human too. But the reality is "This world is cruel, yet it is also beautiful".
@@introvert2892 the point is that it is a job. you dont nor should you celebrate mistakes especially when you are working for someone.
@@lol-ot4pn yeah👍
I love how Midzy's always love lia, cheer and support her because there are some overreacting or toxic fans who just want to point out unnecessary things or whatever
Yeah, that's true 💞 Midzys are the best
They're midzys for a reason
Ik like she is the best so just a little mistake she made so what thats okay
I believe that such toxic fans exist in all fandoms. Such people are no true fans.
So people who do such stuff aren’t Midzys.
Nice to see all the positivity.
@@vedalakshmi2407 what? You acting like they supporting Lia killing someone, when she just made mistakes. They can support lia
bruh I'm just enjoying her cuteness. I don't mind if she makes mistakes. of course I appreciate her effort but how can i hate her? she's the cutest and the best.
She is a singer and a dancer....even if she is cute which she is not...u should accept mistakes and not say that u r okay with them://
@@jiminsextravaganzaofelegan7736 pfff ajjsjs okau dance teacher stfu they made a mistake so what I don't see u up there do I? Irrelevant
@@jiminsextravaganzaofelegan7736 did you just say lia is not cute
@@jiminsextravaganzaofelegan7736 Why would you come all the way here just to say you don't think she's cute? If your opinion can hurt someone's feelings, keep it to yourself.
@@jiminsextravaganzaofelegan7736 she's cuter than u and that's why ur jealous
As a dancer, the rule is to follow the one in the front even if she's off the center bc it's true, you can't see behind.
But still it's just a small thing, our girls put a lot of effort to bring us the best, I think it was cute. ♡
that’s true but i would like to also disagree because each person should know their responsibility. i’m a dancer too :) my teacher said “always know ur responsibility and don’t put the blame on someone else. no matter what ur position is, u need to do it right so that u wouldn’t ruin other people’s hardwork and the choreography”. i’m not saying it’s anything severe or talking about lia tho ! i just quoted what my teacher said and it is just a miscalculation mistake in lia’s part :3 it’s fine !
either way it would be impossible for yuna to adjust herself, she would have to do that in less than a second and still influence three other people behind her. she followed the choreography and stayed in the right position in which she should be, i really can't see how it was her mistake
@@opheliaforgetmenots ur comment is so passive aggressive. Just say ur bias is yuna and go LMAO
@@sassyking6029 ok but how??? She is in the front. She can’t fucking see. Anyways it’s not someone fault. It’s ALL their fault tbh.
@@opheliaforgetmenots no one asked or cares if yorue a dancer too. I bet you make mistakes at school/work!
As a professional dancer, this is being over analysed, how you go from position to position doesnt matter as long as you are on time for the next move. Unless it was choreographed as a pas de bourré there is no issue it really depends on which leg you have the most weight on and if it's the left then your right will move and vice versa.
Lia also cant see behind her so even if the spacing and centre has been set, she ultimately decides where the final position is. However as I said this is an over analysis.
As someone who does dance I completely agree with you. It's the "panic about the next step" that usually makes me get these kind of mistakes. Ofc she could have slipped and placed the wrong leg mistakenly but that doesn't have to do with the whole choreography. The stage size is different compared to the dance studio one so it is likely that she thought she didn't want to bump into anyone since there is no mirror in front to them. but no one can deny that lia is a great dancer :D
I would say the way you move would affect the blocking, and unless you can find your marks again in the next formation change, you rely mostly on your muscle memory which includes how much your muscles remember moving for that particular move. Especially if the way she moves during stage runs is different from the way she moves during the actual show.
From this video you can see that moving with her leg behind the other keeps her profile forward, hence her profile and sight more open to her line and forward, and it also limits the distance she moves (more towards the back than the left), while having one leg in front of the other moves her more left than back, and limits her sight. When we do shows we usually spot the center stage and marks above our eye view (etc the wall clock at the back of the hall or a particular spotlight). That's easier for us because these spots are stationary. It's way more difficult for them because they also have to focus on spotting the moving camera so a slight adjustment to the blocking during the actual show would affect the blocking for the rest of the show. Which is why they have to rely on each other and play by sight (to follow whoever should be centre and adjust their blocking accordingly on the spot). I'm not saying she made a fatal mistake. All I'm saying is that it might seem over-analysed but there are also several other factors to consider.
For kpop dancers i think they aim to be the most accurate though.
No adjustments no impromptu etc2.
Thats what they were trained to do.
Everyone has their own specific place to be so technically Lia made a mistake.
@@lol-ot4pn dancing does not change no matter who is doing it whether it be me competing, beyonce on stage, or kpop stars. It may be Lia's mistake, however, she can not see behind her so they consequently have to follow to where she is.
This is a set rule in the case a mistake happens so that it is not obvious, it keeps the formation and the positions seamless even if yu are off mark.
You can not be looking on the floor for markers, or you're going to ruin the dance, and/or injure yourself or somebody else.
@@lol-ot4pn I also dont think you realise how bright stage lights actually, even on as small a stage as the one they are dancing on.
She may have made the mistake, but oksalayo, she is centre front so she sets the position.
Actually they are all right except for Ryujin's over walk. Observe the steps, Lia is just suppose to take 1 step. The problem is the stage is too big unlike in practice and she can't see herself. Yuna on the other hand can't adjust because Ryujin, Yeji and Chae will get confused. I think it all started with Ryujin, I think Lia saw her adjust so Lia made an adjustment too which did not complement each other.
LIA makes a rare mistake - haters are furious
Other members make mistakes - they fine.
Ughh, the double standards. 😠
Exactly... People always wanna know the reason Lia made that mistake I mean leave her alone, she probably doesn't even wanna talk about it, probably she felt embarassed...
@@Marstatoy go do ur math homework 10 yr old
@@Marstatoy shut up thrice!
@@Marstatoy aha, so you can't express your opinion more respectful right? Even if you're old enough, you still have a 8 year old mind. Probably they think even better than you do. Throwing hate at someone just to bring them down... Pfft- you're gonna end exactly like a depressed child because you couldn't bring her down 🥺
Get lost kiddo
@@Marstatoy most likely a troll using that stage momo as their pfp
As an amateur dancer who performs annually in groups I can tell you that mistakes like this are some of the most difficult to correct, especially when you are in the front lines and end up blocking your colleagues' view
JYP might be already scold them because he always strict about dancing
True..
Of course lol I mean a normal dance teacher will also be mad at this but for us it's just a funny mistake haha
Yh that will happen
Why everybody think of him as a bad one( we don't even know him personally😕
@K-pop is LIFE because she's not specialized in dancing like the others are so haters think it's ok to judge her for that sadly. Jyp scouted lia SPECIFICALLY for her vocals so it's not surprising that dancing isn't her strong suit(and I mean no disrespect to her by stating this). I can't imagine how stressful it must be and how much pressure she's under being in a group that's mainly dance oriented. She continues to improve every performance and her making a mistake doesn't change that. Wish haters would leave her alone smh
It's true that it's Yuna's responsibility (even though Ryujin shoved them off center) which is probably why she was making that cute face lol like "oops....rip Lia's over there." but to be fair Yuna wouldn't have noticed Lia wasn't going to move to center until too late and was already in the correct spot herself so there'd be no use scooting over. It's too bad people 'blamed' Lia when really it's not an uncommon sort of mistake. Adjusting travel distance to the stage size can be wild lol
But anyways, very interesting video! Love this break down of dance stuff and differences between different performances!
Why is it Yuna's responsibility? She even lead them back to the center when they missed the center? And she positioned herself in the right center... If she did adjust to Lia, the whole choreo for the ending would just end up mess because they will miss the timing...
@@lyn0055 Yes. I think we agree here? You're saying basically the same thing as me lol. Sorry for any confusion. I meant it is technically each individual's "responsibility" to watch the person in front of them and line up. However, Yuna did the best she could and was already centered and probably didn't even have time to notice Lia wouldn't make it all the way in front of her. I don't mean it's Yuna's fault or she should've done anything different. my comment is basically saying "yes those behind should try to line with those in front but can't always do it and that's just what happens sometimes"
@@soshimochi556 "yes those behind should try to line with those in front...." What? This is the first time I heard that rule. Cause those behind should do the fixed dance, and should never to line with those in front just to conceal the front people/person mistake.
@@mineandonlymine "should never conceal their member's mistake?" Bruh this ain't a competition, they are a group and covering each other mistakes is the correct thing to do. No one is blaming Yuna or another member, but your last statement is incorrect and shows just how much you want Lia to fail and take the blame for it. Grow up
@@cheeryberrie PLEASE QUOTE MY WORDS COMPLETELY. You've changed my words into a whole different meaning.
I said, "should never to line with those in front JUST TO CONCEAL the front people/person mistake." Conceal another's mistakes is alright in some cases, and but not at the moment. The conceal that dancers need to do is to place the member who do mistake in the right way, not following them and create another chaos.
And when did I say that Lia should take all the blames? Ryujin had it too. But I didn't mention her because my purpose was to correct SoshiMochi's statement, not to put the blame on member(s) just like your suspection to me.
Grow up, little lady.
Now I realize even more how hard it is to be a dancer. Not just the Choreo is hard also to keep the speed and the position and remember those steps and to sing on time
Liapple full on detective mode😂 U did one hella thorough investigation!! Good one!
I will never understand why in kpop if an idol makes a mistake they are criticized for it. I prefer them to not be perfect, I don't care if mistakes are made. They dance and sing much better than everyone else who criticizes them anyways.
As a dancer, I appreciate this so much. When there are competitions, formations and the effect of the steps on them is really emphasized by the coaches. Thanks for doing this!
recuerden que Lia hace su mayor esfuerzo y sincronizar a la hora de bailar, ya que ella misma dijo que no era buena bailando (cosa que es totalmente no, pq, para mi, baila más que bien y se nota en cada cb q ella se esfuerza lo necesario para hacerlo bien) además que ella tampoco tuvo los años de trainer como lo tuvieron las demás chicas, y aún así, son las reinas de la 4ta generación, stan itzy, stan arte gente💗
Some people are so used to idols' presentations being perfect (you know, that's the image the Kpop industry wants to show almost every time, perfection) so when something like this happens they make a big deal out of it, when in fact it's a human mistake everyone can make. Remember, no one's perfect so don't expect others to be always the best.
Such a small mistake. People always find a way to hate smh
Eh, I think this also have to do withS.Korea's culture of "you have to do everything perfectly", which is demanded even more from idols.
Who hating
@@grooviestglobe4907 you do not know what happened with Lia.
@@grooviestglobe4907 you must be new
There are others who take this seriously like... hey we all make mistakes, and this little one I just find it cute
Wow, that's a detailed analysis 👌
I found Lia's little mistake cute though. Love how they joked about it later 😂
y'all talking about mistakes and I'm distrated bc those outfits are fire af
Same
*ON GOD!*
Lia is improving :3 That's why I love her, she's trying her best to improve and it made us proud!
Lia in red suite killing me😳
i think it's normal for lia to make mistake since the choreography was hectic and maybe something else too and the members seems tired too and they just laughed it out which is i am really relief, lia really improved a lot for mitm and im so happy for her 🥺
I thought Lia adjusted for the ending fairy but nah. Anyways everyone makes mistake. We love Lia and ITZY that's all that matters ❤️❤️❤️❤️😍
Am I the only one that likes when idols make mistakes?? It’s good to know that they aren’t perfect and it kinda gets boring after a while when they do the perfect all the time😭😭. It’s also really relatable
i like how informative this video is. it makes you pay attention to the little details of the choreography even more, and that's a good thing especially if you're trying to learn the dance but struggle with the details. making mistakes like these are normal and sometimes necessary in order to really understand or grasp something (in this case the choreo). whoever heavily criticizes lia for this is someone who's afraid to grow because it is through or mistakes that we're able to learn and improve ourselves.
Other fandoms when their group makes a mistake on stage : it’s okay they are humans too
MIDZYies : **Sherlock homes mode activated ** no hate intended
@K-pop is LIFE probably because she isn't the most skilled dancer. its kind of sad tho bc she trained as a singer and jyp pushes difficult choreographies onto her :(
@K-pop is LIFE she's good at dancing but since the other members are really good dancers of course, you're gonna see a difference, but that doesn't mean she can't dance.
In every group the members all dance differently in my opinion and it’s really not a big deal lol they’re not robots
What about this video is hate? It's just explaining how the mistake was made, who's bashing anyone here?
this kind of mistake is completely normal, specially if the stage has equal straight lines. As you pointed, even Ryujin had to adjust her position at some point of the choreography. Since they are a team, the blame is not on one single person, people who are in the back should think fast and adjust to whoever is first in line. Actually, at first I thought that was on purpose, to show Yuna as ending fairy LOL
Yeah... I guess it's mainly Yuna's fault... she looked tired. Everyone else was just following Yuna's *back* but Yuna wasn't looking at Lia... she was looking at the floor or spacing out or something... hehe
@@onionutube no. It was not yunas fault. Why r u blaming it on yuna? Its just a mistake. U r too biased.
@@fatchoppedsalad2950 I was just inferring based on what Liviahel said because it makes sense. It's a team effort and the dancer in front doesn't really have time to look back so the dancers at the back should adjust. Ryujin, Yeji and Chaeryeong adjusted based on Yuna because they were looking at Yuna but if you watch *Yuna's eyes* she wasn't looking at Lia, so she wasn't able to adjust.
No bias here. Just making sense of what happened.
@@onionutube no yuna and others were in the correct position, right in the center. Yuna didn't know Lia would make a mistake. And there was no time for her to adjust to Lia. If she had moved to Lia they wouldn't have able to make the last pose correctly. This was just a mistake in lias side not yuna. U were really being biased by blaming it all on yuna.
@@fatchoppedsalad2950 do you not know what *mainly* means?? oh my...
The fact that Ryujin can adjust that fast in the stage shows how she memorize and aware of the movements of the other girls.
It's so interesting seeing how such small mistakes can change a whole count and position
her mistake was so cute😭it’s okay. she still gave her all and did great while performing. i’d be lost too with all that dancing lol
Itzy don't make mistakes, just happy little accidents.
Very true Bob
Mistake is mistake. Get over it. Wtf is happy little accidentS. 😂 Cringe.
@@scarlett9750 r/ whoosh
@@scarlett9750 your a mistake in life.
@@scarlett9750 oof- is a bob ross reference sis/bro 💀
Lets normalize to not criticize an idol or someone when they made mistakes. They are humans who normally made mistakes.
What. Criticize is good. Insult is bad.
@Ananya Jain ok im not native 🙂
@@melannydayrethratliff1309 Criticism is inevitable. What I mean here is that lets not focus on the negatives. There is so much room for improvement but some people are just too perfect to acknowledge that mistakes do happen.
WHO IS CRITICIZING
Constructive criticism is good. Destructive criticism is bad. This video is a good example of constructive criticism, although I do not believe the channel owner created the video with the purpose of giving Lia pointers. However, we can see how they did not make any personal attacks or degrading statements towards Lia while staying neutral on analyzing what exactly went wrong during this stage. But we know that this is just a mistake the team made once out of the several performances.
I feel like if that were me in her group and I saw that she was off centre I would have still gone to the back of her!! They’re a group it’s not just one member that will look out of place they all will.
Yuna trying not to laugh has me on the floor 😂😂😂
Wow, it's really fascinating to know how even just one mistake in the choreo could set off a domino effect on the whole dance. I also don't think it was Ryujin's mistake here because in the original video she was right in the center of the camera. I think she had moved to fit center with it, while it was moving to take a semi side shot.
the amount of analyzation and research on this video amazes me HAHAHAHAH
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Im not a dancer so the hell I care.
Didnt recognize any mistake in different MITM videos because I cant even dance any of ITZY's insane choreo...
I just love watching them singing and dancing...
I love how calculated kpop moves are. Lia still slayed the performance tho!
Her little mistake is so cute, and it's ok to make mistakes she must feel exhausted. And she's quite nervous with her dance presentations.
I love Lia even more after her insignificant 'mistake'
Is this considered a mistake?
@@polvolindo1682 Algunas personas dijeron eso porque se suponía que debía terminar la coreografía frente a Yuna. Las otras chicas estaban en la posición 'correcta', así que la gente decía que fue su error, pero en mi opinión no es culpa suya porque no puede ver lo que está pasando a sus espaldas.
This is why I LOVE lia she basically shows us that EVERYONE makes mistakes even Kpop idols :)
Can we appreciate how pretty the girls looked in those red suits
She's improved her dance skills and stage presence A WHOLE LOT, we're all so proud of her♡
it’s always LIA’S dancing that gets criticized. literally it’s a small mistake and she’s so self conscious about her dancing just fucking drop it. it wouldn’t be a big deal to the people who do this if it was any other member
It's also hard that there is no audience in front. Sometimes the audience members can be used as markers.
I used to dance and perform so I agree. As the one in front, you can’t see the dancers behind you. It’s very common and very normal for Lia to make that mistake. Usually the dancer behind should be the one that adjusts their position but due to the unexpected circumstances, I’m sure Yuna is also flustered and surprised. It’s no one’s fault.
Good job ITZY.
Exactly, and i saw someone mention this and immediately tried to say Lia should have been the one to notice, not Yuna.
chaeryong and ryujin might not make it in time when the beat ends and it would look weird if they run so fast at the back.
Earlyyy!! And also i gotta say that I'll still love Lia! It's ok Lia !
She's still perfect this kinda of things happen and not gonna stop midzys from loving Lia
thankyou! this video give me a lot of information. As non-dancer i never know that such a small step is really important.
can't imagine how hard idol practice to do the correct dance step----even when they're singing. i appreciate them more now!
I didn’t even notice because I was busy dancing and singing-
I cant see the mistakes because Lia's beauty mesmerized my eyes with that red outfit 😍😍😍
I've watched it on twitter, and they said that Lia was the one who are on the right position..
i’m honestly so impressed with the amount of work you put into this
Y'all have so much free time
You are still my favorite Lia ❤️
for me, it wasn't her total mistake:
- She was in the front, so she is the lead.Other might aswell followed her at the back and leave her alone( team mistake ). She also cant turn her head just to adjust her position, as that might look weird asf, esp when you are a professional
- If you can see it carefully, she isn't connected with any members. Meanwhile, CR and YJ are connected with RJ, and RJ connected with Yuna(the crown pose). This will gave her a hard time positioning herself.
- We can take this as a genius move. This is their 3rd win for MITM and 37 win for overall. Lia's position shape the number'7'. 3rd win + 7 shape= 37 wins!
- She also can be the mafia as she done it different from the others. Before this happen, Hello 82 made a online mafia game with Itzy where as Lia as the first mafia wannabe. Right after that, she did this.
It's okay. Lia is still a professional performer. BTW, I admire your explanation and appreciate your effort in researching.
We still love and support Lia. She will continue to improve. We all have the chances to imrove and develop.
Lia has gotten so much better at dancing like with all the hate she got it must’ve motivated her and she’s gonna keep improving so props to her!!
The thing is stages are weird, some don’t have the marks that idols follow and other are so big that it’s different from a practice room. Even ballerinas have to adjust so much to the stage because is so different
Is no one gonna talk about how she's slaying with that outfit. Like please step on me Lia.
It just proves that dancing is hard af. Haters who can't dance have no idea how much they work and how small details matter. all kpop groups make mistakes. Lia is as amazing as awlays ♥
Liapple makes some research thank you very much about that and IT'S OKAY LIA❤ we make mistakes in life all the time and it's very common 😊
She’s always trying her best and that’s what matters
Ok but can we appreciate the offer they put on this pls it’s amazing