Because silent hill had a siren that went off to let you know that you are going from the somewhat normal world to the nightmarish hellscape... yeah so this game is trying to be silent hill i guess.
Y'know those first few writings on the wall seem to perfectly coincide with how John felt upon realizing it's a PT clone. " 'Forgive me' for making a PT clone." " 'Betrayed' into thinking it was a different kind of game." " 'Desperate' for a game idea." Just a little thing I noticed.
Someone should make a murder mystery with looping hallways. A series of murders took place with the same sets of evidence but in different places and times. You go to different places each stage, looping through the same area but different places in time to gather evidence and link the murders throughout all the years.
I was clued off that it was a PT clone when I saw the 'center' room with the second story balcony thing. (No clue what you would call that design actually, I think balcony only applies when it is an outdoor lookout thing, not indoor, but you get what I mean hopefully.)
It seems like the developer expects you to say "Oh wow, they found a woman dead and her husband hanged in the next room? HOW MYSTERIOUS! I wonder what happened!!" They're completely oblivious to the fact that most people, when presented with that information, would just, y'know, *assume* it was a murder-suicide.
Considering the amount of women who die from domestic violence per day...from their male abusers...foul play would be 100% secondary as a motive to murder-suicide 🙄 Only a man could see obvious femicide as foul play. Truly, wow
This game took a long time to say "murderer dies and goes to Hell". Also, the whole "voices in my head made me do it" is weak. Having actual motivation would be more interesting even if it ends up being too similar to Silent Hill 2 ( this game seems okay with taking ideas from Silent Hill anyway).
Was kinda hoping that they'd chuck a twist ending where the trainer comitted the murder-suicide, and the protag in the notes was just gonna talk it out but she was dead when he went there.
I don't know if the game's self aware or not but having the actual game be a descent into hell and having God himself tell you not to play it is pretty appropriate.
funny thing is, SH2 DOES tell you the twist at the beginning, the voice from the radio is the wife asking James why did he killed her. But since they created such a strong atmosphere, the players are too distracted to focus on some radio noise.
Ah yes, yet another game where a character with mental health issues is a murderer/criminal. I congratulate you for finishing the game John, Id not have gone past moment 20.
42:50 That music was so awful and out of place that I almost spit my drink on my keyboard. ETA: The positive reviews on the Steam page are all cheerful about this being a "P.T. inspired" game, but this isn't inspiration. It's a clone, it's copying. It's another mess of mismatched assets, a bad relationship story, diary entries that read like a YTer's vlogs (even John pointed that out), pointless puzzles that aren't even challenging, and a monster design that has zero symbolism and overall looks so ridiculous that it's hard to take seriously. And it's an hour long for no good reason. This umpteenth P.T. clone can be yours for only $10USD. At least it's under 2 hours long so you can get a refund.
Are we supposed to feel sympathetic for the main character? It seemed he went crazy after being apart from his wife for a week. So heart broken he developed TV-movie-schizophrenia! If it wasn't for the newspaper at the beginning, I'd think he was about fifteen... and this was his first breakup ever. And when he said "9 years" he really meant "9 days".
I decided to look up the band 'Silent Descent' after you mentioned them. What a weird video, like really weird, but the music was great and exactly what I was looking for more of so thank you John. Also I have to mention sally face part 3 so I can be included with the... "cool" kids? Get to it whenever, I can wait.
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for rising the gamma. You're so much better than those letsplayers who just let the screen get pitch black and then they start getting spooked by something we can't see because it's too dark
I'm just going to be that guy and say: "Wow John. I was expecting you to know the exact font used for all the games." I love you :) seriously one of the best channel I subscribed to
Hey John, I know this is an older video so idk if you'll see this. I just wanted to thank you for mentioning Silent Descent(the band) I decided to check them out after watching the video and oh my gosh I'm loving their music. Voices is probably my favorite song right now.
Right even those crappy Jeff the Killer RPG Maker games had better quality sound effects. I mean irl its not hard to record a door opening and closing, theres doors all over the goddamn place.
Sure, this stuff can be found in older games. Halloween wasn't the first slasher movie, but it's clearly the one all later slasher movies emulated and outright stole. PT's strength lies in craftsmanship, pacing, and presentation. Things none of these PT clones seem to get right, just as the many "Holiday" themed slasher movies tended to forget what made Halloween work so well.
I really enjoy the content on your channel, John. I'm always excited to see you upload. I enjoyed watching you play this game. I may have read into the game too much but this is what I've noticed based on the story. The constant looping may represent what happens when there is a breakup such as this where a person may try to rationalize or piece together what happened causing them to go over the same ideas or thoughts over and over again. As for the static radio it seemed as though it represented the person that may be giving excuses and apologies so many times that eventually it just becomes meaningless noise. It would make sense as the game progresses that the house or perhaps the memories the house represents get uglier and uglier because they can't let the past go. Just my two cents and I may just be reading too much into it. Thanks again, John. Did anyone else interpret the game differently?
My favorite part of this was John getting saltier with each loop and finding a way to be entertaining the entire time with a game where nothing happens most of the time.
Trashy though these games are, I super enjoy seeing John's criticism for it all. I want to write a story one day about a serial killer, and John calling out the crap in all these games helps me understand typical horror cliches and overused tropes~
Incoming "John when u gonna play Sally Face Episode 3" comments. Btw good video and thanks Editing John for the warning at the beginning. Another great video!
I like how this developer wanted to make Silent Hills but assumed that it would literally be P.T. but longer and with some SH2 elements. In reality, I think it's very unlikely that Silent Hills would've even included the events or mechanics of P.T. It was just a teaser, after all.
Been a watcher of your videos for over a year I think, first time commenting. Love your videos, love your commenting style and your humour, hope to see mamy more of your videos and successes! ✌ from London
I was just gonna make a comment saying that Editing John is one of my favorite Johns but I paused 6 seconds in, coincidentally right after the bottle fell on the intro screen and I don't know WHY i found it as funny as I did but oh my god
Those puzzle plink sounds do NOT belong in the Otherworld Wannabe. Edit: wasn't one of the most famous Silent Hill puzzles all about a piano, in the SH1? Edit 2: ugh, I am looking at this through the Silent Hill lense so hard that those actually decent giant eyes only make me think of Eileen's giant head in SH4 Edit 3: wait a second, they made a SH clone that takes you to actual hell?? Somehow, this feels like a step from SH's cult into lameness... Also, theory about the Modern Woman book: it is totally supposed to signal that Feminism makes you do bad things because here we have a sensitive beta loser who works his ass off and loves his wife, but she, like the Modern Woman she is, dumps the guy for a genetically superior male. This really *is* a game for betas.
lol this game was very drawn out, but of course you and your commentary makes it so enjoyable to watch!! haha :) Not a bad game though, but could have been much better.
Plug for Silent Descent was awesome. 'nother metal band that I can enjoy listening to. And I don't actually mind the screaming, which always seems hit or miss. This band nails it for me.
If the game is called "Silent Descent," why is there a blaring siren every time you plunge into a hellscape?
Since you're here I'm assuming it's a hint for an ARG or something
Oh hey, a weird 4-eyed cat just entered the comments.
Silent Hill
The descent is silent because your character has gone deaf from hearing the siren so much
Because silent hill had a siren that went off to let you know that you are going from the somewhat normal world to the nightmarish hellscape... yeah so this game is trying to be silent hill i guess.
Y'know those first few writings on the wall seem to perfectly coincide with how John felt upon realizing it's a PT clone. " 'Forgive me' for making a PT clone." " 'Betrayed' into thinking it was a different kind of game." " 'Desperate' for a game idea." Just a little thing I noticed.
Someone should make a murder mystery with looping hallways. A series of murders took place with the same sets of evidence but in different places and times. You go to different places each stage, looping through the same area but different places in time to gather evidence and link the murders throughout all the years.
Check out "The Sexy Brutale," it has a similar concept (and no, this isn't a spoiler, as it's in the trailers, etc.)
I think this sort of concept has been explored before, but in a way that’s not exactly how you described it (if that makes sense).
John plays these games... for beta or worse.
No pun intended
Your humour is in alpha. I hope it gets beta.
"Husband hangs in next room"
That sounds like he was just kinda hangin' out in the room next to his dead wife. Totally casual.
"Husband plays Rainbow Six with online pals in next room"
John Wolfe Splinter Cells are better
When John opened that first door I already thought "Don't you fucking dare to start doing this P.T. looping thing"... and guess what happened?
same! saw the hallway with the table and the left turn... "It's PT." and it literally was.
I was clued off that it was a PT clone when I saw the 'center' room with the second story balcony thing. (No clue what you would call that design actually, I think balcony only applies when it is an outdoor lookout thing, not indoor, but you get what I mean hopefully.)
Every game on this channel is a part of John's SILENT DESCENT into madness.
Nice haircut bro.
It seems like the developer expects you to say "Oh wow, they found a woman dead and her husband hanged in the next room? HOW MYSTERIOUS! I wonder what happened!!" They're completely oblivious to the fact that most people, when presented with that information, would just, y'know, *assume* it was a murder-suicide.
No id say there was a foul play and the suicide is fake.. Someone hanged someone to cover the murder up..
Considering the amount of women who die from domestic violence per day...from their male abusers...foul play would be 100% secondary as a motive to murder-suicide 🙄 Only a man could see obvious femicide as foul play. Truly, wow
@@user-we1fk4ul5o do you seriously just say that ? Yes let’s hate on all man because he assumes it was murder-suicide . It’s a game chill out
@@user-we1fk4ul5o chill damn its a youtube comment
@@user-we1fk4ul5o Hey, I know this was a year ago but I just wanted to say you'd a shit detective lol.
“Well guys we’re in it for the long haul”...or do you mean...long hall? 🤔
*OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH*
Andy Zagar beat me to it
haha yes! my nigga
Yes
*Slow round of applause"
The most valuable thing I learned today is that Hearthstone was made in Unity
This game took a long time to say "murderer dies and goes to Hell". Also, the whole "voices in my head made me do it" is weak. Having actual motivation would be more interesting even if it ends up being too similar to Silent Hill 2 ( this game seems okay with taking ideas from Silent Hill anyway).
Creepy voice: Come....to me....
Other RUclipsrs: Nuh uh no way!
Creepy voice: Come....to me....
John: OK....where are ya?
Classic John 😂😂
bloodwolfmaniac lmao ikr! I watched him play something and a jump scare caused me to jump. But he didn't even flinch.
John be like "Hey demons, it's me ya boy".
The fact that he doesn't fake his reactions is one of the reasons he's my favourite RUclipsr.
Was kinda hoping that they'd chuck a twist ending where the trainer comitted the murder-suicide, and the protag in the notes was just gonna talk it out but she was dead when he went there.
I don't know if the game's self aware or not but having the actual game be a descent into hell and having God himself tell you not to play it is pretty appropriate.
"Let's build a temple over lava. It'll be the most inaccessable temple ever."
Nah it's fine. Just make sure you're wearing the Orange Charred Ring.
funny thing is, SH2 DOES tell you the twist at the beginning, the voice from the radio is the wife asking James why did he killed her. But since they created such a strong atmosphere, the players are too distracted to focus on some radio noise.
Ah yes, yet another game where a character with mental health issues is a murderer/criminal. I congratulate you for finishing the game John, Id not have gone past moment 20.
So the beginning where you walk into the light is the good ending. >_>
*heavy inhale* HEY JOHN, IT'S GUYS
GUY JOHN HEY IT'S
HE TUGS SHINY JOY
(Am I doing it right?)
beat me to it
GONE JAY HITS EYES
Jezus Chrustus oh hey it's that one guy from that one holy book
If you have no kids to consider, get out of that bad relationship. Dragging it out only makes it worse for everyone.
Sadly you are right and i had to go trough that.
AlphaLemming well that was mentioned ouy of nowhere
@ Willz 33 I'd say it's pretty relevant to the topic of the game.
AlphaLemming whatever floats your boat
Did you watch the video? lol. The protag should have walked away ages before he started hearing voices.
are there achievements for completing each loop because they expect you to get bored of yet another PT-inspired game and just quit?
42:50 That music was so awful and out of place that I almost spit my drink on my keyboard.
ETA: The positive reviews on the Steam page are all cheerful about this being a "P.T. inspired" game, but this isn't inspiration. It's a clone, it's copying. It's another mess of mismatched assets, a bad relationship story, diary entries that read like a YTer's vlogs (even John pointed that out), pointless puzzles that aren't even challenging, and a monster design that has zero symbolism and overall looks so ridiculous that it's hard to take seriously. And it's an hour long for no good reason. This umpteenth P.T. clone can be yours for only $10USD. At least it's under 2 hours long so you can get a refund.
"I can't get rid of the voices!'
Have you tried therapy? There's meds out there for psychosis and schizophrenia.
Jade Annabel he said he don't have enough for paying one
Silent Descent drummer here, legend! Thanks for the mention buddy!
Are we supposed to feel sympathetic for the main character? It seemed he went crazy after being apart from his wife for a week. So heart broken he developed TV-movie-schizophrenia! If it wasn't for the newspaper at the beginning, I'd think he was about fifteen... and this was his first breakup ever. And when he said "9 years" he really meant "9 days".
When they showed the terrible model for satan i laughed so hard. This must have been made by a 15 year old right? Right?!
I decided to look up the band 'Silent Descent' after you mentioned them. What a weird video, like really weird, but the music was great and exactly what I was looking for more of so thank you John. Also I have to mention sally face part 3 so I can be included with the... "cool" kids? Get to it whenever, I can wait.
18:43 *glass breaks*
STONE COLD! STONE COLD! THE RATTLESNAKE IS HERE!
Thank you for always putting the links in your descriptions!
"WHAT IS UP RUclips today I went to Target and bought SOME TOILET PAPER."
*dabs on em*
THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU for rising the gamma.
You're so much better than those letsplayers who just let the screen get pitch black and then they start getting spooked by something we can't see because it's too dark
I'm just going to be that guy and say: "Wow John. I was expecting you to know the exact font used for all the games."
I love you :) seriously one of the best channel I subscribed to
"I have no idea what the Hell's going on."
-My description of Children Who Hear Lost Voices.
When I heard John say "It's finna get lit in here;" I ascended.
Hey John, I know this is an older video so idk if you'll see this. I just wanted to thank you for mentioning Silent Descent(the band) I decided to check them out after watching the video and oh my gosh I'm loving their music. Voices is probably my favorite song right now.
The door opening sound bite is definitely the AIM sign on sound
Lol read your comment before watching and laughed every time I heard a door open thinking YOU GOT MAIL!
Right even those crappy Jeff the Killer RPG Maker games had better quality sound effects. I mean irl its not hard to record a door opening and closing, theres doors all over the goddamn place.
pt clones are getting old please stop making them. silent hill did it in the demo. its not the same anymore
gotta agree with you on that
What's annoying about imitations like these is that they seldom, if ever, surpass the original.
A lot of effort went into this game ,wish they didn't wasted it in a clone .
Sure, this stuff can be found in older games. Halloween wasn't the first slasher movie, but it's clearly the one all later slasher movies emulated and outright stole. PT's strength lies in craftsmanship, pacing, and presentation. Things none of these PT clones seem to get right, just as the many "Holiday" themed slasher movies tended to forget what made Halloween work so well.
SpookyGamingYT the Silent Hill demo was PT or was that Resident Evil
I'm two years late to this one, but when you ask what a good fusion name is for "man and wife", it's clearly... WAN.
"They shall become Wan"
Currently in the middle of this video and slowly dying as I realize this video is an hour long
Finally a new video of John! Your new Haircut looks cool!
me; hey, this layout looks like PT house - (5 sec later) YEP
I come for the horror, but stay for the backstreet boys lyrics.
Lmao
fear the dreaded w i f e - m a n
This is a Beta game, Sally Face Episode 3 is only for TRUE Alphas! ...Are YOU Alpha John?
I am shocked at how you didn't get tired John. It seemed as if you walked for over an hour straight.
First ending was explaining that you're actually the Space X dummy that was sent to space!
Nah that would have been cool. This was just saying if he chose not go through with murder, he would have gone to haven instead.
idk why, but that aloe vera joke cracked me up.
Super disappointed in John for not knowing the typeface. That's like, the only reason I watch Smh.
Madison Duckworth you like to watch smh?
Lol, you are a dissapointment.
^^the two guys above me^^ wow he totally wasn’t being sarcastic you fucking idiots.
StopTop Ay whoa who pissed in your cereal and yes i knew he was being sarcastic you dont have to call me a idiot
Super Mario Ho's?
When's Sally Face Episode 3? Are you holding out on us, John?!
Panmaster at Arms he literally just uploaded it
Thats the joke
I really enjoy the content on your channel, John. I'm always excited to see you upload.
I enjoyed watching you play this game. I may have read into the game too much but this is what I've noticed based on the story. The constant looping may represent what happens when there is a breakup such as this where a person may try to rationalize or piece together what happened causing them to go over the same ideas or thoughts over and over again. As for the static radio it seemed as though it represented the person that may be giving excuses and apologies so many times that eventually it just becomes meaningless noise. It would make sense as the game progresses that the house or perhaps the memories the house represents get uglier and uglier because they can't let the past go.
Just my two cents and I may just be reading too much into it.
Thanks again, John.
Did anyone else interpret the game differently?
I was too distracted by all the poorly executed cliche's to give a shit about the story.
Hey John, it’s gang. Guys is stupid. You should hang out with me, Gang, more often.
I hate to be that person. But Sally Face 3 is out. Get ready for comment bombardment
Papyrus Sally face three is out*spits water out of mouth* You're joking right?😯
Papyrus Shit you're right ruclips.net/video/aJi-9FuZ7AE/видео.html
I can't believe John is holding out on us again, he must hate his fans
You love to be that guy.
Papyrus LMAO finally
My favorite part of this was John getting saltier with each loop and finding a way to be entertaining the entire time with a game where nothing happens most of the time.
Trashy though these games are, I super enjoy seeing John's criticism for it all. I want to write a story one day about a serial killer, and John calling out the crap in all these games helps me understand typical horror cliches and overused tropes~
What criticism? All i saw him whining that its a pt clone. SMH
i love that you started saying "lets go" as a joke, but know it has become your thing...LETS GO!
For a moment I thought that John cut the video and skipped gameplay straight to the ending or something. :D
Incoming "John when u gonna play Sally Face Episode 3" comments.
Btw good video and thanks Editing John for the warning at the beginning. Another great video!
Aru Sasaki John is holding on us ! He hate his fans ! I can't believe him
Not to say the rest of this game is good at all, but I swear my eyes rolled back into my skull as soon as “tHe VoIcEs” came up.
Despite the oversaturated community of horror-game players... Yer still my favorite, John. You and MrKravin.
Keep up the splendid and humerous work.
When are we getting the next Rusty Lake?
Theryn Evans Are you holding out on us, John?
I like how this developer wanted to make Silent Hills but assumed that it would literally be P.T. but longer and with some SH2 elements.
In reality, I think it's very unlikely that Silent Hills would've even included the events or mechanics of P.T. It was just a teaser, after all.
Been a watcher of your videos for over a year I think, first time commenting. Love your videos, love your commenting style and your humour, hope to see mamy more of your videos and successes! ✌ from London
lol "HI EVERYBODY ITS ME ITS YOUR BOY ASMONJOHN!" lol i did giggle
WHAT IS UP GUYS? IT’S YA BOI JOHN WOLFE BACK WITH ANOTHER PT-INSPIRED, INDIE GAME VIDEO!
Your fans comments on the band silent descent videos on how you lead them to this band lead me to your channel
Beta males watch out. John is throwing shade at you. 😂😂
I think John has developed too many personalities and the ending from Split is not far now
So...when is Beast John going to upload a video?
You had a perfectly good chance to make a pun about the husband “hanging” in the next room and you squandered it, you fool.
I still love you though.
I died at 8:53 X'D I was laughing so much, nearly chocked XD
Thanks John, your videos are my antidepressant.
I love the implication that the murderer can just...turn around and go to heaven???
13:03 I think if I was trapped in some loop with a monster I'd just bunker down inside of that closet for eternity.
14:18 Haha that is great.
31:08 I love this, it's never wasted when you learnt something new
Oof. All of us and John gave a whole HOUR of our lives to this.
I was just gonna make a comment saying that Editing John is one of my favorite Johns but I paused 6 seconds in, coincidentally right after the bottle fell on the intro screen and I don't know WHY i found it as funny as I did but oh my god
Editing John is one of my top five favorite Johns
"Hey guys, it's John. Welcome to Silent Descent, also known as PT clone number 3,246. Thanks for watching!"
One good thing came from this video: I started listening to Silent Descent
Those puzzle plink sounds do NOT belong in the Otherworld Wannabe.
Edit: wasn't one of the most famous Silent Hill puzzles all about a piano, in the SH1?
Edit 2: ugh, I am looking at this through the Silent Hill lense so hard that those actually decent giant eyes only make me think of Eileen's giant head in SH4
Edit 3: wait a second, they made a SH clone that takes you to actual hell?? Somehow, this feels like a step from SH's cult into lameness...
Also, theory about the Modern Woman book: it is totally supposed to signal that Feminism makes you do bad things because here we have a sensitive beta loser who works his ass off and loves his wife, but she, like the Modern Woman she is, dumps the guy for a genetically superior male. This really *is* a game for betas.
lol this game was very drawn out, but of course you and your commentary makes it so enjoyable to watch!! haha :) Not a bad game though, but could have been much better.
These hour-long John videos really butter my biscuit.
You know it's not good when John says "I feel like I'm playing a Timore game."
33:57 all it's missing is monsters scurrying under and behind the grates and it'll literally be a level from silent hill 3.
I'm fed up with looping hallways, it's been done to death, time for someone to come up with the next new thing.
If you ever tire of youtube, you'd make a great life coach John
"Grab life by the balls! Fight someone!"
3:14 Lol, VRChat has this exact house. x) I actually saw it in a VRChat video first, now I know where it's from. ;P
John! Name some other bands you like! I would like to know!
Architects, Wage War, Periphery, Volumes, While She Sleeps and Twelve Foot Ninja are what I've been listening to lately
John Wolfe John you have the best taste in music
John Wolfe NO WAY ARCHITECTS?? I thought you would be way more into the heavier side of metal, like Cradle of Filth, Anthrax, Candlemass, etc.
John Wolfe PERIPHERYYYY
Architects! Hell yeah!
Plug for Silent Descent was awesome. 'nother metal band that I can enjoy listening to. And I don't actually mind the screaming, which always seems hit or miss. This band nails it for me.
U killed the J B haircut :'(
Shoner I think he looked better with the so called jb hair cut now he just looks really um he just doesn't look right at least that's my opinion
Richard Sanchez i know. I also liked his old cut but i was just making a joke
I know now viewer ship will start to fall
kappa
I think he looks really good now...
Shoner His new haircut reminds me of his hair when he first started on RUclips
I love how this game just boots you to low orbit like it’s deep and makes sense 😂
0:20 you never put the links in the description
I actually almost always do, I just didn't have them immediately on this one.
Sorry, I didn't mean "never" in that sense, I was just saying that you had not put the links in the description. Thanks for the reply.
21:09 that's an actual old picture, one of the very first of the Cursed Images
TadpoleGaming cursed images?
Welcome to outer space! I like that there is a lot of detail in the house. Thank-you for lighting it up.
John, you’re golden. The only RUclips channel I will never unsubscribe to.
You're the light of our lives too, John.
John:*reads private journal entry*
John: Dude we didnt need to know this
Lol remember that game John played which had Murphy in it 😂
My sould needs a tissue John, can you be that tissue?
I didn't expect John dropping NSYNC lyrics