My G3P600 doesn't make much noise. I took a 1/2" softish styrofoam panel and put it on the wall and slid the unit tightly up against it. The noise comes from the unsupported case acting like a speaker and direct induction. The foam takes care of all of that. Also our TDS readout says 008. The standard for "Excellent" water quality is 50-150. So I'm wondering . . . But I must say, if it's not the placebo affect, the water does look severely clearer, kinda "crystalline". So far it looks too good to be true . . . fingers crossed.
Can someone explain how the filter can be effective with a 1:3 waste ratio? I know wasting water is not good, but the laws of physics state that an RO membrane will not work as well when the waste side of the filter has high concentrations of contaminants. I’ve read several reviews stating the water drops don’t filter as well as 1:1 waste systems.
Apparently the radium in our municipal water is extremely high. Does this remove it? Also, I see that it's pretty much all plastic. How much bpa or bps or whatever other plastic crap is leached into the water? Have you found any water filter system that has zero plastic? To me, this is very important.
You're welcome! Let us know how it goes - we'd love to hear how the installation process is, and how you like the system and water after it's up and running
@@waterfilterguru My family and I have been drinking distilled water for the past 20 years. I've grown tired of cleaning the distiller every other week as well as the electricity it cost me since it runs about 8 hours a day to support four people. I'm pretty sure that reverse osmosis will not be as pure as distilled, but it will be very close and as long as the water tastes good which in my opinion means it has no taste, I will be happy. I find it ironic that some people complain that RO and distilled water removes all the minerals from it and you have to put it back. I believe you should be getting your minerals through the food you eat and not necessarily the water you drink. If you want the minerals you can just add a pinch of sea salt to every gallon of water you make and that should suffice. Again thank you so much for your video it was very informative and I'm glad I saw it to make the purchase.
thanks for the review. I think the biggest thing holding me back is that the filters aren’t standardized. I feel like if the company goes bust or discontinues this product for whatever reason, I pretty much have a dsyfunctional system I just invested $1k in.
There are plenty of more standard tank incorporated units that have standardized filter housings. I used the Apec one in my old apartment for years with great results. 👍
Waterdrop customer service said that I am able to prevent having to drill a hole on the counter… by using a faucet that has two in lines. Do you know if the hose that's provided to the unit will fit most faucets with this capability?
I've heard that RO systems can grow mold. Maybe this system isn't so risky in that it doesn't have a holding tank. Are you able to do a follow-up test after 6(?) month period to see if that's occurring on any of the RO systems you test/review?
Typically we think of mold/ bacteria growth happening the the filtered water tank of RO systems that have one. Not so much a problem with tankless systems, but that's not to say it cant happen.
@@jeremiah888888 If bacteria or mold do grow in the system, the UV will destroy them as the purified water leaves the system. The UV is installed on the waterline between the system and the faucet
Can you clarify what you said about needing an entirely new outlet and the filter not being able to share outlets with a garbage disposal? They can't both be plugged into the two sockets of a single outlet?
In our case, the disposal outlet under the sink is wired so it only turns on with the switch. So we needed a separate outlet that always receives power for the RO system
Like your home the sink is located on an exterior wall, with a finished Sheetrock interior and a duplex outlet. By code in my county these two outlets are on two different circuits. Each is dedicated to a specific appliance- dishwasher on a 20a breaker and garbage disposal on a 15a breaker with GFIC in garage. To make it more complicated the base cabinet has a back. Only a small rectangular hole for access to outlet. The valves and drain penetrate the cabinet and are finished with escutcheons. And to make matters worse we have a very deep farmhouse style sink that requires a Houdini type to even see said plumbing valves! We can’t put this in since sink drops down too far, there’s no outlet. Argh!
Hi, Thank you for your interest in our filters Regarding this issue, we are sorry that it is not recommended to tilt it or install it sideways. The system is designed with a leakage protector. if it were installed horizontally, the protector would be destroyed. We suggest putting the system in an upright position. If positioned improperly, the system may fail to perform as expected. Tilting it may also cause extra noise. Enjoy the rest of your day!
As long as you have proper pre-treatment in place, it could be used with well water. Common well water issues like iron, manganese, or hard water can foul and destroy RO systems like this, but if correctly treated upstream you could use the RO unit without an issue
I tried searching the NSF database to see if the G3 P800 is really certified. When I type Waterdrop I get a ton of results but cant seem to find the model in this video. Were you able to find it?
Yeah sometimes it's tricky to locate products in the certification databases. Here are the certs for the G3 NSF 58 info.nsf.org/Certified/DWTU/Listings.asp?Company=C0145653&Standard=058 NSF 372 info.nsf.org/Certified/Lead_Content/Listings.asp?Company=C0145653&Standard=372-DWTU
Yes, but it might void the product warranty. Make sure to read the fine print first. Then check out this article waterfilterguru.com/how-to-connect-reverse-osmosis-system-to-refrigerator/
The issue there is that the purified RO water could become recontaminated from the existing faucet and plumbing. This would also most likely void the warranty of any RO unit installed like this. If you are in a rental situation and are unable to install a unit like this, have you considered a countertop RO?
We want the convenience of front filter and tankless design but are only a family of 2-4.... But we still want fast glass filling, and lowest reasonable noise possible. We are on city water that is not terrible...What Waterdrop unit (Or others..) do you recommend for this application?
What is your opinion on the fact that reverse osmosis systems can potentially lower the mineral content of water by removing beneficial minerals along with contaminants?
Reverse osmosis systems do indeed remove the healthy minerals, along with any potentially dangerous contaminants: waterfilterguru.com/does-reverse-osmosis-remove-minerals/ That being said, we get the majority of these healthy minerals through the food we eat, if we are eating a healthy balanced diet. The concern with drinking demineralized water is that there could be the possibility that the "hungry" water draws these minerals out of your body. This potential drawback can easily be avoided by remineralizing the purified reverse osmosis water: waterfilterguru.com/how-to-remineralize-reverse-osmosis-water/
Agreed. I was told this directly from Waterdrop. They went on to say that if I switched from Sodium to Potassium the system could be used. Of course, potassium is much more expensive. And I don’t understand what the difference would be.
I'm looking at this system, but I want to have my countertop faucet hooked up to my existing insta-hot for tea, and "T" it off to supply my refrigerator. Do you know if the digital faucet can handle 190f degree water? Will the readout be accurate if I use it to supply the fridge in addition to the counter top faucet?
I'm honestly not sure about the hot water thing, I'd recommend reaching out to the manufacturer about that one. Hooking it to your fridge will work just fine!
Very few water filter systems work with hot water. This one doesn’t work with hot water. Need the mini external tank if “T”-ing off to a fridge. It holds about a liter and ensures pressure when first turned on. I’m glad I installed it.
I just bought the waterdrop g3P600 for a 2 person household to filter out well water (high in sediments / iron). You are the first one to mention that this might clog the system. Highly appreciate it. Any alternative recommendation ? Preferably so that the resulting water can be used in our humidifier and has some UV / bacteria reduction as well
Are there any other water treatment systems already in place to treat the well water coming into your home? Reverse osmosis should not be used as primary treatment for well water! Many common well water contaminants will clog and destroy the system. Have you had your well water tested by a certified lab?
@@waterfilterguru Hey! Thanks for the quick reply. Highly appreciate it. Its a rental house while we are searching for a unicorn to buy. There is only a water softener system, which most people see as sufficient. I had it tested, which showed bacteria, so I got the well clorinated and since then I see increased levels of discoloring e.g. in the shower. I dont want to do any permanent changes to the house so lucking for quick install solutions (e.g. filters for faucets for the shower or washing machine and maybe one more expensive one for creating cleaner cooking / humidifier water.
@@Memory98765 A water softener should do a good job to protect a point of use reverse osmosis system down stream - water hardness is one of the primary causes of failure of RO systems. Bacteria should be treated at the water point of entry after the water softener. Point of use reverse osmosis systems _should not_ be use as primary treatment for bacteria! Although they are capable of removing bacteria, the organisms can grow inside the system and membrane itself.
What electrical power does this unit use? I see it has a power supply”brick” where one side is clearly household 110V AC current, but assume the other side is some voltage of DC at some Amp load. Can you share what is printed on the power supply? I’m looking for a unit to put into an RV that has DC power… (the RV does have an inverter to create 110V AC if we have to, but it’s inefficient to go DC to AC to DC). I’d look at a DC-DC voltage converter for it (yes, voids warranty, that’s ok). I wish it could lay horizontal but I see that was already answered (no it cannot).
Just installed my unit. I did noticed some things though. 1st there are a lot of tiny bubbles that are in the water they do take a while before they are gone. 2nd there is a film at the top of the water and 3rd. The TDS is not accurate the led displays both from faucet and unit say 15 but 2 of my TDS hand devices read around 45. Any thoughts? Is my unit faulty?
Hey Henry, thanks for the comment! 1) Tiny air bubbles being released from newly installed filter elements are completely normal and should go away in time 2) What does the film look like? Are you sure it's not the air bubbles from #1? 3) Do you have the optional remineralization filter installed? The TDS reading the unit itself takes is done before the remineralization filter stage. If you have the remineralization filter installed, this would be the discrepancy.
That's the flow rate, how fast it filters the water. So if left to filter continuously for 24 hours it would produce 600 or 800 gallons of filtered water (depending on the model). Keep in mind this is _way more_ than most folks need, considering the average daily water usage of an adult in the US is 70 gallons per day for everything, not just consumption
It is easily to install DIY. You will need to drill a hole in your countertop for the dedicated faucet if your sink doesn't already have one, and another small hole in the drain under the sink for the drainline. You can check the user manual on their website here geni.us/rQekgwp which explains the entire process step by step
what is a comparable water filtration that sits on the counter. I am looking for one that takes out all or most flouride, etc, and potentially adds good minerals back, with reverse osmosis. Any suggestions?
Purchase the unit a few weeks ago, since my kitchen is being renovated. I thought it would be a great addition. Our sink already has a water filter spout on it checked that the line was compatible. 1/4 PE water line.. do you think this would be an issue not having the water drop spout?
I would suggest only using it with the spout it comes with for a couple reasons. First, the reverse osmosis water can be corrosive, so if used with a different faucet it could cause issues. Second, by using the system with a different faucet, you might void the warranty. You could double check this.
I'm wrestling with issues with our undersink 11 yr old RO system. The whole house filter is a lifetime warranted Puronics (sand with salt backwash, I think) filter/softener that seems to work well. I assume that this Puronics filter provides an initial stage that has to assist the inside RO system. I am strongly considering the Waterdrop G3P600 as a replacement - I appreciate your review. Would the G3P600 be a good fit to work with the Puronics? Thanks.
Hey Thanks for your comment! The Puronics system you describe sounds like a water softener, which would be addressing water hardness and thus protecting the downstream treatment equipment (RO system) from limescale buildup. But without looking at pictures or testing data it's hard to say for certain. If what I suspect is true, then the Puronics water softener will serve to protect any new system installed downstream from scale issues.
Did you consider the g2p600, which is slightly cheaper. If so, what led you to test the g3 instead? I am also concerned about noise between the two. I purchased both during Black Friday but will return one. The g2600 cost a but less when replacing filters (about have when average per year).
As with all tankless RO systems, it's recommended to let the water run for a couple seconds to flush out any stagnant water from the system that may have been subject to TDS creep
Is the G3 P800 NSF Certified? I see that it's IAPMO Certified but NSF is the gold standard. Can't find any documentation of it on the NSF product and service listings.
In addition to the NSF, the Water Quality Association (WQA) and The International Association of Plumbing & Mechanical Officials (IAPMO) certify water treatment products to NSF/ANSI standards. All three are legit and no one organization is considered superior to the others. They all certify products following the same rigorous testing procedures based on the product standard.
Hello :) I have 2 questions, maybe someone can answer: 1. I have G3 400GPD RO System. What if I use 600-800GPD membrane? Is the difference in G3/G3600/G3800 just in membrane and UV in G3800? Or they have different pumps and even if I set 800GPD membrane to my system - I will not get G3800 anyway? 2. My Smart faucet had kind of a tail on a screen when I unpacked it. I was thinking it's a tail for the safe plastic cover from the screen that I have to remove... But when I pulled it, I got just a tail in my hands, no safe cover... I've tried to get rid of it by nails, but seems that I scratched the screen... Or it has a safe cover and it just very hard to uncover it?
Hey Max, great questions! I'll try to answer below: 1. The different membranes (400, 600, 800) are not compatible. They are limited by the pump capacity in each system. That is, each system has a different sized pump which limits the flow rate, to the spec, so you will need to use the correct RO membrane sized for your system 2. Not sure what you mean by 'tail' - do you mean a small plastic tab that was intended to remove the plastic screen protector used for shipping? I can't imagine that you would have scratched glass with your fingernail
1. Oh…Okay, let it be. But it could be so cool as VAG Automotive to “enable” features which are disabled bc of model level :) Thank you for your answer! 2. Yes, exactly that you said :) I could not get rid of screen protector as I just got a tail in my hands when I pulled and a cannot even do that with a toothstick :) 3. Do you have information or experience about what pump is more quality or lives more: 400/600/800? And who makes those pumps? Why I’m asking… many years ago I was selling RO filters and there’s an experience that pumps live 6-12months
Yes, reverse osmosis is one of the best treatment options for microplastics and nanoplastics. We've not yet investigated nor tested the bluewater spirit
Great channel and content. Appreciate the salient material that is data driven. Have you ever tested the Kinetico K5? If not, would you consider it? Many thanks for your great work. Keep it up. All the best from Napa, Ca.
Thanks for sparking the great conversations around the Waterdrop G3P800. I'm planning to use it in treating well water and will have a pre-filter in place for sediment, iron, manganese, and sulfur. I'm hopeful this is a great solution . . . just need to make sure my water pressure can handle all the filtration.
Hey Kelly, thanks for the comment! As long as you have proper pre-treatment in place, you can absolutely use this system with well water. It sounds like you're already on the right track. The unit has an internal pump so pressure shouldn't be an issue
Kelly, I am trying to do the exactly what you said you have done. I have well water and I need a pre-filter in place, "upstream" to the WaterDrop RO system. I haven't purchased anything yet and I am wondering if your solution worked? If so, can you tell me what you used for the pre-filter setup? Thanks SO much!!
I'm concerned about there not being enough minerals after Reverse Osmosis. I know they have remineralization filters, but I can't see how much they add back in. I've heard too low of mineral levels has quite negative effects on the body. Do you know how effective the remineralitization filters are? Also, do you have a preferred remineralitization filter since they go after the system and so I can use any brand? Thanks!!!
Sounds like you may have read the WHO report (www.who.int/publications/i/item/9241593989) related to consuming demineralized water - or somewhere else that is reporting on this information. It is prudent to remineralize reverse osmosis water in order to prevent any potential adverse effects, and its super easy! As you already mentioned, the best water to remineralize with an under sink RO is with an inline remineralization filter, installed on the faucet waterline after the RO system, before the faucet. We have not specifically researched or tested remineralization filters, but most should work in relatively the same way. They will have small balls of calcite or similar that the demineralized RO water passes through. Since the demienralized water is "hungry", it will dissolve a small amount of the calcite media, thus returning calcium to the water. Keep in mind that because the media is slowly being dissolved, you will eventually need to relace it once it's completely gone.
It depends on the specific water situation. Well water can be extremely complex. When was the last time you had the well water tested? Do you know what contaminants are present?
It would depend on the source water being filtered and the water issues that need to be addressed. I typically recommend reverse osmosis with remineralization for drinking/ cooking water, as it provides the most broad overall protection. Proper pretreatment should always be considered with all ROs. Here are a few to consider: The G3 P800 discussed in this video: waterdropus.pxf.io/YgOdLj Cloud RO: cloud-water-filters.sjv.io/jrOrdP The New Waterdrop X Series: geni.us/OOtfARh
@waterfilterguru Thank you for your response! What system do you use in your house? Or let's put it this way..what system would you install in your mother's house? 🤔
It really depends on the water water chemistry and contaminants present 😉What is the application? What type of water are you trying to filter? Have you had it tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with? What type of system (POU vs POE) are you looking for?
Hey you probably already solved your electrical issue just so you know they make an air switch that you can install on your garbage disposal.the button would be drilled into your sink top that way you don't have to run more wiring you can just push the air switch button when you want to run the disposal and plug in your RO system😊
TDS in the effluent (treated) RO water is directly related to the TDS of the incoming water, because the RO membrane reduces a %. So the higher the TDS in the incoming water, the higher it will be in the product water, and vis versa. Theoretically the % reduction should remain more or less the same until the membrane needs to be replaced
Awesome video - I appreciate it. Does this require two free outlets or just one? It looked like you had one outlet free but it sounded like this unit has 2 plugs.
Thanks for the thorough review. what do you think of their K6 model? I really wanted to go for it for the instant hot/cold water dispenser feature but I'm not sure about the all-stages-in-one filter. Since some filter needs to be changed every few months and the RO membrane is every 2 year. I don't know how effective this type of all-in-one filter is. I wish waterdrop makes a P800 come with an instant hot water dispenser.
We have a K6 but haven't had a chance to install it yet so cannot offer too much insight yet. I would expect that it would require more frequent filter replacements due to the all in one nature of the filter cartridge, but again that really depends on the source water being filtered as well. Would love to get your feedback if you end up going with that system
My question is: what is the best filtering system for countertop? To remove ALL fluoride and other bad guys. A distilled system and then add minerals for tasting would be my best bet? Thank you to anyone that can respond!
Distillation or reverse osmosis. Each has its pros and cons, and I typically lean towards recommending RO as it's more practical. Check out this video about the countertop water filters that performed best in our testing ruclips.net/video/rAeRcqfXnRo/видео.html
As a first step, I suggest testing the water to see what contaminants are present. Then you can use the data to determine appropriate treatment. Check out the Tap Score spring water test geni.us/72RzPaw
What are your thoughts on people saying that the businesses that make under the sink systems, tend to change their filters every few years so that you'll have to buy an entirely new system? And that you might as well go with a Kinetico or a Hellenbrand in home option?
You shouldn't need to replace the entire system. You WILL have to keep up with regular changes of the filter cartridges or elements, however. Check out this article to learn all about it: waterfilterguru.com/how-often-to-change-water-filter/
Customers have found a cancer-causing chemical (methylene chloride aka dichloromethane) in the RO water purified by the Waterdrop A1 Reverse Osmosis Hot Cold-Water Dispenser. There was also a second group of chemicals (xylenes) found in the purified water which have been linked to causing nervous system damage. Many customers are concerned and waiting for a proper response.
I've tested two Waterdrop RO systems so far, neither leached methylene chloride aka dichloromethane or xylenes: G3 P800 ruclips.net/video/Ebm3ZLuEew4/видео.html N1 ruclips.net/video/lmWHcAKQ7kk/видео.html Currently testing the new X12 model - interested to see if these detections show up or not
@@waterfilterguru Thank man...we currently have the G800 and this is our second waterdrop system so we are concerned #parentlife #girldad. Check out the review by BOS Water (?) they seem like good folks and the response from Waterdrop was pretty shady...again, thanks for your work and we are crossing our fingers this is just an isolated incident due to bad filters or something.
I'm old, and possibly missing something, but... the spent cartridges, does the company take them back for re-use or do people just throw them away? It'd be deeply ironic if people are worried about microplastics while filtering them with products that continuously generate more plastic waste to end up in our water supplies. Am I missing something?
The vast majority of water filter systems currently use disposable cartridges, unfortunately 😕 hoping to see innovation to address this issue in the future
Yes one of the best! Check out the Cloud RO too cloud-water-filters.sjv.io/jrOrdP it's a conventional style with a tank, but the most efficient and most modern model of that type we've come accross
It can, but reverse osmosis requires both electricity and plumbing connections. You might be better off with a direct-connect inline filter. This unit also has a large footprint so might not be ideal for a camper.
Your videos are super helpful. At the end of the video, you said if you're on well water this is not a good idea. I have a drilled well (200ft), what kind of pretreatment do I need for incoming water before it goes thru my house PEX and into an RO system at my sink? Thanks so much
Hey thanks for the comment, great question! Well water commonly has contaminants like high hardness, iron, manganese (just to name a few) need to be treated at the point of entry before the water enters the RO system. First thing is to start with a lab test so you can identify the exact types and concentrations of contaminants present, and then spec a system accordingly based on the data. I recommend Tap Score for water testing, hands down the best and what I use for all my testing projects. Check out their well water tests here bit.ly/3kJcnnp And here is a video that explains the entire process of using data to guide your treatment decisions in detail, step by step: ruclips.net/video/JU4sPer1944/видео.html If you want help from a certified water treatment specialist with analyzing your test report and speccing an appropriate system, I offer consultations: waterfilterguru.com/consulting/
Any suggestions for someone that does have well water? We currently have a tank reverse osmosis system, but it seems like we are always out of water when we need it and it takes a very long time to fill back up.
It depends, if you have sufficient pre-treatment in place then you can absolutely use an RO system. However these systems shouldn't be used as primary treatment for well water. Do you have any other treatment in place? What contaminants are present?
Curious, their countertop model had a high methylene chloride and n+p xylenes count when lab tested. How does this one rate. That issue should be tested and reported.
I've tested two Waterdrop RO systems so far, neither leached methylene chloride aka dichloromethane or xylenes: G3 P800 ruclips.net/video/Ebm3ZLuEew4/видео.html N1 ruclips.net/video/lmWHcAKQ7kk/видео.html Currently testing the new X12 model - interested to see if these detections show up or not
Thanks! Reverse osmosis (any system) is not recommended as primary treatment for raw well water. It would be fine as long as you have sufficient pre-treatment in place to address any of the common well water contaminants that would foul and destroy an RO membrane and system
Lab results - best part of the channel. Shows objectivity and removes any feeling that it’s just another sponsored or paid advertisement. Don’t know how much the tests cost but they’re the reason I watched two more of your videos. The first one had the water tests, last two videos I watched did not. Bummed.
@@aherweck22 Hey thanks for your comment - lab testing is in the works! We decided to split out the lab results for each product review into its own video so that each are shorter and easier to watch - just an FYI why you haven't seen our lab test data for a few of the most recent reviews.
I purchased this exact model, and my family loves it. We did before and after Simple Labs and were blown away by the improvements on all fronts. Mine is not as noisy as your video sounded. I was originally concerned that it would be. But it goes on and off quickly. The digital TDS meter makes me smile, especially with a TDS=003 value. Great review.
I don't see why not. Just make sure to check he warranty fine print - it may void the warranty if the unit is not installed as per the manufacturer's instructions. Just something to keep in mind.
Hi, i wanted to know if you had reviewed and tested the Home Master TMHP HydroPerfection Reverse Osmosis System, i had it at my previous home and it had great tasting water. Some reviews called it the rolls royce of RO systems. Not sure how you choose which systems you test but it would be great if you tested that one and compared it to the waterdrop g3p800. Thank you for your time and all the work you do testing water filters. I just found your site and videos and have enjoyed the info you provide
Hey thanks for the comment and request. We've not yet tested the Home Master TMHP HydroPerfection Reverse Osmosis System, but I've got it on our list of ROs to get tested for a future project 🙂
How do you find their NSG and IAPMO rating? I cannot find it anywhere? Are they really certified? Are they a Chinese Company? How do you find an authorized installer if you do not want to do yourself
There are 3 organizations that certify water treatment products to NSF/ANSI standards: NSF WQA IAPMO This unit has been certified by IAPMO: NSF/ANSI 42 pld.iapmo.org/file_info.asp?file_no=0014301 NSF/ANSI 53 pld.iapmo.org/file_info.asp?file_no=0013976 NSF/ANSI 58 pld.iapmo.org/file_info.asp?file_no=0013976
Sure thing! Keep in mind certifications often list the parent company, rather than the brand you might be searching for. For example, when searching the databases for 'waterdrop' nothing was showing up until I figured out Waterdrop is the brand, but Ecolife Technologies is the parent company that holds the certifications. Let the fun begin 😉 WQA wqa.org/find-products/ NSF info.nsf.org/certified/dwtu/ IAPMO pld.iapmo.org/
Does the Gp3600 do the same quality treatment as the gp3800? I realize it is only rated for 600gpd but wanted to know if the water quality is just as good.
The D6 has just one filter cartridge that includes multiple stages of filtration while the G3 has separate filter cartridges for different stages. The D6 is capable of producing 600 gallons per day while the G3 can do either 600 or 600, depending on the model. The D6 has a 2:1 pure to reject water ratio, while the G3 is 3:1. The G3 has a UV stage as well
Hello! When will you be posting the video with the lab results? Everyone's waiting for that. I'm interested in buying the system but I would love to see the results first. Thanks.
Yes, we actually asked Simplelab to clarify this and they did. They responded to a comment by Big Berkey Water Filters with an explanation from their science team
Hey buddy, I have this one at my place as well, but I am super worried about the UV sterilizer. It is literally just hanging in the middle and I worried that the in/out tube through the UV sterilizer could get loose during the daily usage. Do you think this could be an actually problem or I am just too paranoid？
Probably not something to be concerned about. If it keeps bothering you, I'm sure there could be a way to use a bracket or similar to hold it to the wall under your sink
Ok, wait now, there's another claim that the most purified, cleanest uncontaminated water is coming from the "Atmospheric Water Generator", that can actually connect to a home replacing the water department. The WAG produces 1k gallons a day & PH level "balanced". I believe it's practically Alkaline as well. What do you think? Um, apparently 1 can place an order, have the device delivered to any country for 50k usd.
Hello, I'm wondering if you may please do a test on the Frizzlife PD600-TAM3. I been using it for about 2 years, very happy with the water quality, specially that the TAM3 do Remineralization & Alkalization to PH 7.5. Now seeing this test, I'm wondering if the G3 P800 is similar or better. I would very much appreciate to see the testing results. You're welcome to come to my house to take the samples. I'm not trying to do advertising, and not associated or sponsored by them. I'm just concerned about my health. Thank you very much of what you do, knowledge is power. Keep it up.
Absolutely! Bottled water has the potential to leach microplastics and other chemicals from the bottle itself, plus bottled water is regulated by the FDA (not the EPA) so the rules around testing are far less stringent. We are currently working on a big project to test many of the most popular bottled water brands to see what kinds of trace contaminants they contain! Make sure you're subscribed so you get notified when we upload that video: www.youtube.com/@waterfilterguru?sub_confirmation=1
@@johnmachter40 It all depends on the bottled water manufacturer. Bottled water is regulated by the FDA to much less strict guidelines than tap water which is regulated by the EPA. Best bet is to filter your own water at home, plus it's much more cost effective in the long term
Thanks for the great video, I am considering this to replace my existing tanked ro system. I have a question about the faucet, how hard to replace the cartridge if it is leaking? Seems it is a unique faucet and if it could work with any drinking faucet.
The unit should only be used with the included dedicated faucet. If it's not, the warranty may be voided. The filter cartridge replacements are easy - simple twist and pull/push.
🔥 Check out the G3 P800 RO system here ➡ geni.us/waterdrop-g3p800
Get a smart plug for your garbage disposal and problem solved. I just have Google control my garbage disposal now via the smart plug.
Love that! @@sonicpop
My G3P600 doesn't make much noise. I took a 1/2" softish styrofoam panel and put it on the wall and slid the unit tightly up against it. The noise comes from the unsupported case acting like a speaker and direct induction. The foam takes care of all of that. Also our TDS readout says 008. The standard for "Excellent" water quality is 50-150. So I'm wondering . . . But I must say, if it's not the placebo affect, the water does look severely clearer, kinda "crystalline".
So far it looks too good to be true . . . fingers crossed.
Thanks for sharing! Love the styrofoam hack to stop the noise, great idea!
Can someone explain how the filter can be effective with a 1:3 waste ratio? I know wasting water is not good, but the laws of physics state that an RO membrane will not work as well when the waste side of the filter has high concentrations of contaminants.
I’ve read several reviews stating the water drops don’t filter as well as 1:1 waste systems.
Apparently the radium in our municipal water is extremely high. Does this remove it? Also, I see that it's pretty much all plastic. How much bpa or bps or whatever other plastic crap is leached into the water?
Have you found any water filter system that has zero plastic? To me, this is very important.
Yes, reverse osmosis should reduce radium.
The only zero plastic systems I've come across are the stainless steel gravity fed systems
Thanks for the $200 discount code. I just purchased a system today and I'm looking forward to installing it.
You're welcome! Let us know how it goes - we'd love to hear how the installation process is, and how you like the system and water after it's up and running
@@waterfilterguru My family and I have been drinking distilled water for the past 20 years. I've grown tired of cleaning the distiller every other week as well as the electricity it cost me since it runs about 8 hours a day to support four people. I'm pretty sure that reverse osmosis will not be as pure as distilled, but it will be very close and as long as the water tastes good which in my opinion means it has no taste, I will be happy. I find it ironic that some people complain that RO and distilled water removes all the minerals from it and you have to put it back. I believe you should be getting your minerals through the food you eat and not necessarily the water you drink. If you want the minerals you can just add a pinch of sea salt to every gallon of water you make and that should suffice. Again thank you so much for your video it was very informative and I'm glad I saw it to make the purchase.
@@Dabobeans You're right on point! An RO will definitely be less work, and you'll get the purified water on demand 😉
thanks for the review. I think the biggest thing holding me back is that the filters aren’t standardized. I feel like if the company goes bust or discontinues this product for whatever reason, I pretty much have a dsyfunctional system I just invested $1k in.
Unfortunately this is the case for many filtration systems, every brand has their own filter cartridge design.
the Waterdrop D6-MZ is normally $388 but is on sale for $318 right now,
There are plenty of more standard tank incorporated units that have standardized filter housings. I used the Apec one in my old apartment for years with great results. 👍
Waterdrop customer service said that I am able to prevent having to drill a hole on the counter… by using a faucet that has two in lines. Do you know if the hose that's provided to the unit will fit most faucets with this capability?
I have no idea. I've not tested this myself
I've heard that RO systems can grow mold. Maybe this system isn't so risky in that it doesn't have a holding tank. Are you able to do a follow-up test after 6(?) month period to see if that's occurring on any of the RO systems you test/review?
Typically we think of mold/ bacteria growth happening the the filtered water tank of RO systems that have one. Not so much a problem with tankless systems, but that's not to say it cant happen.
@@waterfilterguru HOW DOES THE UV HELP WITH THIS?
@@jeremiah888888 If bacteria or mold do grow in the system, the UV will destroy them as the purified water leaves the system. The UV is installed on the waterline between the system and the faucet
@@waterfilterguru g3600 doesn't have the UV? how does this kill the mold if it doesn't have uv
Can you clarify what you said about needing an entirely new outlet and the filter not being able to share outlets with a garbage disposal? They can't both be plugged into the two sockets of a single outlet?
In our case, the disposal outlet under the sink is wired so it only turns on with the switch. So we needed a separate outlet that always receives power for the RO system
Like your home the sink is located on an exterior wall, with a finished Sheetrock interior and a duplex outlet. By code in my county these two outlets are on two different circuits. Each is dedicated to a specific appliance- dishwasher on a 20a breaker and garbage disposal on a 15a breaker with GFIC in garage. To make it more complicated the base cabinet has a back. Only a small rectangular hole for access to outlet. The valves and drain penetrate the cabinet and are finished with escutcheons. And to make matters worse we have a very deep farmhouse style sink that requires a Houdini type to even see said plumbing valves! We can’t put this in since sink drops down too far, there’s no outlet. Argh!
Sounds super frustrating! Did you identify an alternative option?
Can this unit lay horizontal?
Great question! Honestly I'm not certain, I'll have to check with Waterdrop and get back to you
Hi,
Thank you for your interest in our filters
Regarding this issue, we are sorry that it is not recommended to tilt it or install it sideways. The system is designed with a leakage protector. if it were installed horizontally, the protector would be destroyed. We suggest putting the system in an upright position. If positioned improperly, the system may fail to perform as expected. Tilting it may also cause extra noise.
Enjoy the rest of your day!
is there a way to setup a filter so that this unit could be used with well water?
As long as you have proper pre-treatment in place, it could be used with well water. Common well water issues like iron, manganese, or hard water can foul and destroy RO systems like this, but if correctly treated upstream you could use the RO unit without an issue
HOW CAN I USE THE SYSTEM WITH UV TO SEND TO FRIDGE
Check out this article! waterfilterguru.com/how-to-connect-reverse-osmosis-system-to-refrigerator/
I tried searching the NSF database to see if the G3 P800 is really certified. When I type Waterdrop I get a ton of results but cant seem to find the model in this video. Were you able to find it?
Yeah sometimes it's tricky to locate products in the certification databases. Here are the certs for the G3
NSF 58 info.nsf.org/Certified/DWTU/Listings.asp?Company=C0145653&Standard=058
NSF 372 info.nsf.org/Certified/Lead_Content/Listings.asp?Company=C0145653&Standard=372-DWTU
Can you hook up a refrigerator line to this system?
Yes, but it might void the product warranty. Make sure to read the fine print first.
Then check out this article waterfilterguru.com/how-to-connect-reverse-osmosis-system-to-refrigerator/
can anyone give me estimate length of the wire that comes out of the faucet to supply the small LED screen? Thanks!
The unit's main power cord is 90", and the faucet's power cord 59". The faucet cord plugs into the main body of the unit.
@@waterfilterguruthanks! The power for tap is rather short…any idea if they sell extension wires?
@@ianpsaila8599 I don't know, you'll have to reach out to Waterdrop directly with that one!
Wouldn't I be able to use the regular focet?
The issue there is that the purified RO water could become recontaminated from the existing faucet and plumbing. This would also most likely void the warranty of any RO unit installed like this.
If you are in a rental situation and are unable to install a unit like this, have you considered a countertop RO?
We want the convenience of front filter and tankless design but are only a family of 2-4.... But we still want fast glass filling, and lowest reasonable noise possible. We are on city water that is not terrible...What Waterdrop unit (Or others..) do you recommend for this application?
You could consider the G3 P400 model (same system, just a lower production rate capability and price point) waterdropus.pxf.io/R5RYDb
CAn we install this RO in our Basement? if yes do I need to put any kind of Pump?
Yes you can. If the water pressure is inadequate you would need a booster pump.
i just installed this system and i put the remineralization filter last after the UV is that a problem?
No that's how it should be!
@@waterfilterguru I thought so but in your video you said that UV is the last date so I thought I second-guess myself lol thank you
Can you replace the UV bulb? Does it let you know when the bulb is out?
The UV stage is installed on the purified water line externally, between the unit and the faucet. It's LED, which they claim should last 50 years
What is your opinion on the fact that reverse osmosis systems can potentially lower the mineral content of water by removing beneficial minerals along with contaminants?
Reverse osmosis systems do indeed remove the healthy minerals, along with any potentially dangerous contaminants: waterfilterguru.com/does-reverse-osmosis-remove-minerals/
That being said, we get the majority of these healthy minerals through the food we eat, if we are eating a healthy balanced diet. The concern with drinking demineralized water is that there could be the possibility that the "hungry" water draws these minerals out of your body. This potential drawback can easily be avoided by remineralizing the purified reverse osmosis water: waterfilterguru.com/how-to-remineralize-reverse-osmosis-water/
Question: I have heard that this system CANNOT be used with a salt based water softening system? Any info? Thanks!
Not sure why - reverse osmosis is the best method to remove excess sodium from softened water 🤷
Agreed. I was told this directly from Waterdrop. They went on to say that if I switched from Sodium to Potassium the system could be used. Of course, potassium is much more expensive. And I don’t understand what the difference would be.
@@lorengrossman5455 very interesting, I'll have to follow up with my contact at Waterdrop to ask why they would say this
Love to know what they say.
@@waterfilterguru Hi! Any follow up on this? Thanks!
I'm looking at this system, but I want to have my countertop faucet hooked up to my existing insta-hot for tea, and "T" it off to supply my refrigerator. Do you know if the digital faucet can handle 190f degree water? Will the readout be accurate if I use it to supply the fridge in addition to the counter top faucet?
I'm honestly not sure about the hot water thing, I'd recommend reaching out to the manufacturer about that one.
Hooking it to your fridge will work just fine!
Very few water filter systems work with hot water. This one doesn’t work with hot water.
Need the mini external tank if “T”-ing off to a fridge. It holds about a liter and ensures pressure when first turned on. I’m glad I installed it.
I just bought the waterdrop g3P600 for a 2 person household to filter out well water (high in sediments / iron). You are the first one to mention that this might clog the system. Highly appreciate it. Any alternative recommendation ? Preferably so that the resulting water can be used in our humidifier and has some UV / bacteria reduction as well
Are there any other water treatment systems already in place to treat the well water coming into your home? Reverse osmosis should not be used as primary treatment for well water! Many common well water contaminants will clog and destroy the system.
Have you had your well water tested by a certified lab?
@@waterfilterguru Hey! Thanks for the quick reply. Highly appreciate it. Its a rental house while we are searching for a unicorn to buy. There is only a water softener system, which most people see as sufficient. I had it tested, which showed bacteria, so I got the well clorinated and since then I see increased levels of discoloring e.g. in the shower. I dont want to do any permanent changes to the house so lucking for quick install solutions (e.g. filters for faucets for the shower or washing machine and maybe one more expensive one for creating cleaner cooking / humidifier water.
@@Memory98765 A water softener should do a good job to protect a point of use reverse osmosis system down stream - water hardness is one of the primary causes of failure of RO systems.
Bacteria should be treated at the water point of entry after the water softener. Point of use reverse osmosis systems _should not_ be use as primary treatment for bacteria! Although they are capable of removing bacteria, the organisms can grow inside the system and membrane itself.
Do you have to use the faucet provided with the Waterdrop G3P800? Or can you use a different faucet??
You could use it with another faucet, but it might void the warranty. I'd double check with the manufacturer to be sure
What electrical power does this unit use? I see it has a power supply”brick” where one side is clearly household 110V AC current, but assume the other side is some voltage of DC at some Amp load. Can you share what is printed on the power supply? I’m looking for a unit to put into an RV that has DC power… (the RV does have an inverter to create 110V AC if we have to, but it’s inefficient to go DC to AC to DC). I’d look at a DC-DC voltage converter for it (yes, voids warranty, that’s ok). I wish it could lay horizontal but I see that was already answered (no it cannot).
I reached out to Waterdrop about this and they told me the power adapter supply is available for 110-240 V AC and 2.5 A
Just installed my unit. I did noticed some things though. 1st there are a lot of tiny bubbles that are in the water they do take a while before they are gone. 2nd there is a film at the top of the water and 3rd. The TDS is not accurate the led displays both from faucet and unit say 15 but 2 of my TDS hand devices read around 45.
Any thoughts? Is my unit faulty?
Hey Henry, thanks for the comment!
1) Tiny air bubbles being released from newly installed filter elements are completely normal and should go away in time
2) What does the film look like? Are you sure it's not the air bubbles from #1?
3) Do you have the optional remineralization filter installed? The TDS reading the unit itself takes is done before the remineralization filter stage. If you have the remineralization filter installed, this would be the discrepancy.
Can u explain it only being able to 600 or 800 gallons per day?
Wouldn't it provide indefinitely until the filter is spent?
That's the flow rate, how fast it filters the water. So if left to filter continuously for 24 hours it would produce 600 or 800 gallons of filtered water (depending on the model). Keep in mind this is _way more_ than most folks need, considering the average daily water usage of an adult in the US is 70 gallons per day for everything, not just consumption
Hi, the website claims that installation is designed to be DIY. Was the installation simple and straightforward? What steps are needed?
It is easily to install DIY. You will need to drill a hole in your countertop for the dedicated faucet if your sink doesn't already have one, and another small hole in the drain under the sink for the drainline. You can check the user manual on their website here geni.us/rQekgwp which explains the entire process step by step
what is a comparable water filtration that sits on the counter. I am looking for one that takes out all or most flouride, etc, and potentially adds good minerals back, with reverse osmosis. Any suggestions?
The AquaTru with remineralization VOC filter! aquatru.pxf.io/b3WYGP
Hey mine didn’t come with the uv filter. Is this something I can buy somewhere to add to it?
Yes you can purchase the inline UV separately here waterdropus.pxf.io/Kja0Ka
Purchase the unit a few weeks ago, since my kitchen is being renovated. I thought it would be a great addition. Our sink already has a water filter spout on it checked that the line was compatible. 1/4 PE water line.. do you think this would be an issue not having the water drop spout?
I would suggest only using it with the spout it comes with for a couple reasons. First, the reverse osmosis water can be corrosive, so if used with a different faucet it could cause issues. Second, by using the system with a different faucet, you might void the warranty. You could double check this.
I'm wrestling with issues with our undersink 11 yr old RO system. The whole house filter is a lifetime warranted Puronics (sand with salt backwash, I think) filter/softener that seems to work well. I assume that this Puronics filter provides an initial stage that has to assist the inside RO system. I am strongly considering the Waterdrop G3P600 as a replacement - I appreciate your review. Would the G3P600 be a good fit to work with the Puronics? Thanks.
Hey Thanks for your comment! The Puronics system you describe sounds like a water softener, which would be addressing water hardness and thus protecting the downstream treatment equipment (RO system) from limescale buildup. But without looking at pictures or testing data it's hard to say for certain.
If what I suspect is true, then the Puronics water softener will serve to protect any new system installed downstream from scale issues.
Did you consider the g2p600, which is slightly cheaper. If so, what led you to test the g3 instead? I am also concerned about noise between the two. I purchased both during Black Friday but will return one. The g2600 cost a but less when replacing filters (about have when average per year).
These are great review by the way. Very thorough. Thank you.
G3 has a better efficiency ratio 3:1 compared to the G2 2:1
Do these systems filter well as soon as you turn on the tap? Or do you have to wait a little?
As with all tankless RO systems, it's recommended to let the water run for a couple seconds to flush out any stagnant water from the system that may have been subject to TDS creep
Is the G3 P800 NSF Certified? I see that it's IAPMO Certified but NSF is the gold standard. Can't find any documentation of it on the NSF product and service listings.
In addition to the NSF, the Water Quality Association (WQA) and The International Association of Plumbing & Mechanical Officials (IAPMO) certify water treatment products to NSF/ANSI standards. All three are legit and no one organization is considered superior to the others. They all certify products following the same rigorous testing procedures based on the product standard.
Hello :)
I have 2 questions, maybe someone can answer:
1. I have G3 400GPD RO System. What if I use 600-800GPD membrane? Is the difference in G3/G3600/G3800 just in membrane and UV in G3800? Or they have different pumps and even if I set 800GPD membrane to my system - I will not get G3800 anyway?
2. My Smart faucet had kind of a tail on a screen when I unpacked it. I was thinking it's a tail for the safe plastic cover from the screen that I have to remove... But when I pulled it, I got just a tail in my hands, no safe cover... I've tried to get rid of it by nails, but seems that I scratched the screen... Or it has a safe cover and it just very hard to uncover it?
Hey Max, great questions! I'll try to answer below:
1. The different membranes (400, 600, 800) are not compatible. They are limited by the pump capacity in each system. That is, each system has a different sized pump which limits the flow rate, to the spec, so you will need to use the correct RO membrane sized for your system
2. Not sure what you mean by 'tail' - do you mean a small plastic tab that was intended to remove the plastic screen protector used for shipping? I can't imagine that you would have scratched glass with your fingernail
1. Oh…Okay, let it be. But it could be so cool as VAG Automotive to “enable” features which are disabled bc of model level :) Thank you for your answer!
2. Yes, exactly that you said :) I could not get rid of screen protector as I just got a tail in my hands when I pulled and a cannot even do that with a toothstick :)
3. Do you have information or experience about what pump is more quality or lives more: 400/600/800? And who makes those pumps? Why I’m asking… many years ago I was selling RO filters and there’s an experience that pumps live 6-12months
What about Microplastics? Are those filtered out as well? What are your thoughts on Bluewater Spirit?
Yes, reverse osmosis is one of the best treatment options for microplastics and nanoplastics. We've not yet investigated nor tested the bluewater spirit
Great channel and content. Appreciate the salient material that is data driven. Have you ever tested the Kinetico K5? If not, would you consider it? Many thanks for your great work. Keep it up. All the best from Napa, Ca.
Not yet, but we will for sure get it on the list! Thanks for the request
Without the remineralizing system the water is completly without minerals?? The filter is mandatory to produce water that can be directly drank?
No, remineralization is not mandatory
Thanks for sparking the great conversations around the Waterdrop G3P800. I'm planning to use it in treating well water and will have a pre-filter in place for sediment, iron, manganese, and sulfur. I'm hopeful this is a great solution . . . just need to make sure my water pressure can handle all the filtration.
Hey Kelly, thanks for the comment! As long as you have proper pre-treatment in place, you can absolutely use this system with well water. It sounds like you're already on the right track. The unit has an internal pump so pressure shouldn't be an issue
Kelly, I am trying to do the exactly what you said you have done. I have well water and I need a pre-filter in place, "upstream" to the WaterDrop RO system. I haven't purchased anything yet and I am wondering if your solution worked? If so, can you tell me what you used for the pre-filter setup? Thanks SO much!!
@@createaneutroncreateaneutr7433 Have you lab tested your water to confirm types and concentrations of contaminants present that need to be addressed?
How does the remineralization filter work? Is it one of the 3 inserts?
It's a separate filter installed externally on the dedicated faucet waterline
@@waterfilterguru got it - do you feel this is worthwhile getting this feature and is it easy to change out?
@@kdoney If you are concerned about drinking demineralized water, then this could be worth it. It's easy enough to change out!
I'm concerned about there not being enough minerals after Reverse Osmosis. I know they have remineralization filters, but I can't see how much they add back in. I've heard too low of mineral levels has quite negative effects on the body. Do you know how effective the remineralitization filters are? Also, do you have a preferred remineralitization filter since they go after the system and so I can use any brand? Thanks!!!
Perhaps Comparing the Remin Ph ($150) vs the Waterdrop MNR 35 ($30)
Sounds like you may have read the WHO report (www.who.int/publications/i/item/9241593989) related to consuming demineralized water - or somewhere else that is reporting on this information. It is prudent to remineralize reverse osmosis water in order to prevent any potential adverse effects, and its super easy! As you already mentioned, the best water to remineralize with an under sink RO is with an inline remineralization filter, installed on the faucet waterline after the RO system, before the faucet. We have not specifically researched or tested remineralization filters, but most should work in relatively the same way. They will have small balls of calcite or similar that the demineralized RO water passes through. Since the demienralized water is "hungry", it will dissolve a small amount of the calcite media, thus returning calcium to the water. Keep in mind that because the media is slowly being dissolved, you will eventually need to relace it once it's completely gone.
Most minerals we need are in food. Dark green leafy veg have all necessary minerals. A lot of fruits have copper and so forth.
What do you recommend for filtering/purifying well water?
It depends on the specific water situation. Well water can be extremely complex. When was the last time you had the well water tested? Do you know what contaminants are present?
Which one would be you first system option to choose?
It would depend on the source water being filtered and the water issues that need to be addressed. I typically recommend reverse osmosis with remineralization for drinking/ cooking water, as it provides the most broad overall protection. Proper pretreatment should always be considered with all ROs. Here are a few to consider:
The G3 P800 discussed in this video: waterdropus.pxf.io/YgOdLj
Cloud RO: cloud-water-filters.sjv.io/jrOrdP
The New Waterdrop X Series: geni.us/OOtfARh
@waterfilterguru Thank you for your response! What system do you use in your house? Or let's put it this way..what system would you install in your mother's house? 🤔
It really depends on the water water chemistry and contaminants present 😉What is the application? What type of water are you trying to filter? Have you had it tested? Do you know what contaminants you are dealing with? What type of system (POU vs POE) are you looking for?
@@waterfilterguruthe best tankless for removing arsenic, fluoride, mercury, and lead?
@@kimeel7239 Waterdrop G3 waterdropus.pxf.io/YgEKWB
Hey you probably already solved your electrical issue just so you know they make an air switch that you can install on your garbage disposal.the button would be drilled into your sink top that way you don't have to run more wiring you can just push the air switch button when you want to run the disposal and plug in your RO system😊
Thanks for the tip! I'm sure others will also find this helpful
How long does the TDS level stay below 6?
TDS in the effluent (treated) RO water is directly related to the TDS of the incoming water, because the RO membrane reduces a %. So the higher the TDS in the incoming water, the higher it will be in the product water, and vis versa.
Theoretically the % reduction should remain more or less the same until the membrane needs to be replaced
Which reverse osmosis system hello, which reverse osmosis system will you guys recommend , wd-g3p800-w vs. wd-kj600?
We'll, are you looking for instant hot water on demand? Then the K6. If not, the G3 series!
Awesome video - I appreciate it. Does this require two free outlets or just one? It looked like you had one outlet free but it sounded like this unit has 2 plugs.
It just needs one outlet
Thanks for the thorough review. what do you think of their K6 model? I really wanted to go for it for the instant hot/cold water dispenser feature but I'm not sure about the all-stages-in-one filter. Since some filter needs to be changed every few months and the RO membrane is every 2 year. I don't know how effective this type of all-in-one filter is. I wish waterdrop makes a P800 come with an instant hot water dispenser.
We have a K6 but haven't had a chance to install it yet so cannot offer too much insight yet. I would expect that it would require more frequent filter replacements due to the all in one nature of the filter cartridge, but again that really depends on the source water being filtered as well.
Would love to get your feedback if you end up going with that system
@@waterfilterguru Did you have a chance to test the K6 model? Any feedback will be much appreciated. Thanks!
My question is: what is the best filtering system for countertop? To remove ALL fluoride and other bad guys. A distilled system and then add minerals for tasting would be my best bet? Thank you to anyone that can respond!
Distillation or reverse osmosis. Each has its pros and cons, and I typically lean towards recommending RO as it's more practical. Check out this video about the countertop water filters that performed best in our testing ruclips.net/video/rAeRcqfXnRo/видео.html
Hello , I wonder if you can help me with suggestions to filter my spring water in the mountains? Thank you.
As a first step, I suggest testing the water to see what contaminants are present. Then you can use the data to determine appropriate treatment. Check out the Tap Score spring water test geni.us/72RzPaw
Thank you !
What are your thoughts on people saying that the businesses that make under the sink systems, tend to change their filters every few years so that you'll have to buy an entirely new system? And that you might as well go with a Kinetico or a Hellenbrand in home option?
You shouldn't need to replace the entire system. You WILL have to keep up with regular changes of the filter cartridges or elements, however. Check out this article to learn all about it: waterfilterguru.com/how-often-to-change-water-filter/
Customers have found a cancer-causing chemical (methylene chloride aka dichloromethane) in the RO water purified by the Waterdrop A1 Reverse Osmosis Hot Cold-Water Dispenser. There was also a second group of chemicals (xylenes) found in the purified water which have been linked to causing nervous system damage. Many customers are concerned and waiting for a proper response.
I've tested two Waterdrop RO systems so far, neither leached methylene chloride aka dichloromethane or xylenes:
G3 P800 ruclips.net/video/Ebm3ZLuEew4/видео.html
N1 ruclips.net/video/lmWHcAKQ7kk/видео.html
Currently testing the new X12 model - interested to see if these detections show up or not
@@waterfilterguru Thank man...we currently have the G800 and this is our second waterdrop system so we are concerned #parentlife #girldad. Check out the review by BOS Water (?) they seem like good folks and the response from Waterdrop was pretty shady...again, thanks for your work and we are crossing our fingers this is just an isolated incident due to bad filters or something.
@@Truth1444 Yeah, it's hard to draw conclusions from one isolated test, unfortunately. But still, very concerning I 100% agree with you
@@waterfilterguruhave you put out a video on the results of the X12 RO system?
I'm old, and possibly missing something, but... the spent cartridges, does the company take them back for re-use or do people just throw them away? It'd be deeply ironic if people are worried about microplastics while filtering them with products that continuously generate more plastic waste to end up in our water supplies. Am I missing something?
The vast majority of water filter systems currently use disposable cartridges, unfortunately 😕 hoping to see innovation to address this issue in the future
Is this till the best system available if not which is for the price? thanks
Yes one of the best! Check out the Cloud RO too cloud-water-filters.sjv.io/jrOrdP it's a conventional style with a tank, but the most efficient and most modern model of that type we've come accross
Buongiorno, secondo il suo punto di vista si può installare questo sistema in un camper? Grazie mille
It can, but reverse osmosis requires both electricity and plumbing connections. You might be better off with a direct-connect inline filter. This unit also has a large footprint so might not be ideal for a camper.
lol! For hot water---I own a tea kettle! thanks for the over-view
😂 fair enough. Glad you liked it, thanks for your feedback
anyone know how long the power cable is?
Yes, the main power cord is 90", faucet's power cord 59"
@@waterfilterguru thanks mate, is the main power cord the same on the G2 too do you know?
@@bragg2012 Yep all the G series systems have the same power cord I believe
Your videos are super helpful. At the end of the video, you said if you're on well water this is not a good idea. I have a drilled well (200ft), what kind of pretreatment do I need for incoming water before it goes thru my house PEX and into an RO system at my sink? Thanks so much
Hey thanks for the comment, great question! Well water commonly has contaminants like high hardness, iron, manganese (just to name a few) need to be treated at the point of entry before the water enters the RO system.
First thing is to start with a lab test so you can identify the exact types and concentrations of contaminants present, and then spec a system accordingly based on the data. I recommend Tap Score for water testing, hands down the best and what I use for all my testing projects. Check out their well water tests here bit.ly/3kJcnnp
And here is a video that explains the entire process of using data to guide your treatment decisions in detail, step by step: ruclips.net/video/JU4sPer1944/видео.html
If you want help from a certified water treatment specialist with analyzing your test report and speccing an appropriate system, I offer consultations: waterfilterguru.com/consulting/
Any suggestions for someone that does have well water? We currently have a tank reverse osmosis system, but it seems like we are always out of water when we need it and it takes a very long time to fill back up.
It depends, if you have sufficient pre-treatment in place then you can absolutely use an RO system. However these systems shouldn't be used as primary treatment for well water.
Do you have any other treatment in place? What contaminants are present?
whats the best tankless RO for well water?
This one, the Waterdrop G3 series. As long as the well water is properly treated upstream, there is no issue using a tankless RO like this one
Can this connect to your fridge as well?
Yes, they even sell an adapter to do this easily
Have you tested this? Waterdrop AS13 Under Sink Water Filter
We've not tested that model yet
Curious, their countertop model had a high methylene chloride and n+p xylenes count when lab tested. How does this one rate. That issue should be tested and reported.
I've tested two Waterdrop RO systems so far, neither leached methylene chloride aka dichloromethane or xylenes:
G3 P800 ruclips.net/video/Ebm3ZLuEew4/видео.html
N1 ruclips.net/video/lmWHcAKQ7kk/видео.html
Currently testing the new X12 model - interested to see if these detections show up or not
Thank you so much for sharing! Enjoy fresh, pure water with waterdrop!💦
Sure thing! Love the system
@@waterfilterguru Hi ！I want to ask if I can forward this video ？
Great channel! Did you say you don't recommend this system to people with well water source? So what system do you recommend to well water? Thank you!
Thanks! Reverse osmosis (any system) is not recommended as primary treatment for raw well water. It would be fine as long as you have sufficient pre-treatment in place to address any of the common well water contaminants that would foul and destroy an RO membrane and system
Awesome video! Would love to see the lab results from this too
Thank you - lab results coming soon!
@@waterfilterguruI’m watching and waiting for the results too!
@@samburchard1778 Coming soon!
Lab results - best part of the channel. Shows objectivity and removes any feeling that it’s just another sponsored or paid advertisement. Don’t know how much the tests cost but they’re the reason I watched two more of your videos. The first one had the water tests, last two videos I watched did not. Bummed.
@@aherweck22 Hey thanks for your comment - lab testing is in the works! We decided to split out the lab results for each product review into its own video so that each are shorter and easier to watch - just an FYI why you haven't seen our lab test data for a few of the most recent reviews.
Excellent video. Is this significantly better than the Brondell H2O+ - Circle Reverse Osmosis Water Filtration System from Costco? Thanks in advance
We've not yet tested the Brondell H2O+ system, so I can't offer a direct comparison at this time
I purchased this exact model, and my family loves it. We did before and after Simple Labs and were blown away by the improvements on all fronts.
Mine is not as noisy as your video sounded. I was originally concerned that it would be. But it goes on and off quickly.
The digital TDS meter makes me smile, especially with a TDS=003 value.
Great review.
Thanks for sharing!
How do you go about completing those Simple Labs?
What’s the best counter top RO system?
RKIN U1 bit.ly/3QJDNFo
AquaTru aquatru.pxf.io/b3WYGP
Can this system be used for an ice making machine?
I don't see why not. Just make sure to check he warranty fine print - it may void the warranty if the unit is not installed as per the manufacturer's instructions. Just something to keep in mind.
Hi, i wanted to know if you had reviewed and tested the Home Master TMHP HydroPerfection Reverse Osmosis System, i had it at my previous home and it had great tasting water. Some reviews called it the rolls royce of RO systems. Not sure how you choose which systems you test but it would be great if you tested that one and compared it to the waterdrop g3p800. Thank you for your time and all the work you do testing water filters. I just found your site and videos and have enjoyed the info you provide
Hey thanks for the comment and request. We've not yet tested the Home Master TMHP HydroPerfection Reverse Osmosis System, but I've got it on our list of ROs to get tested for a future project 🙂
How do you find their NSG and IAPMO rating? I cannot find it anywhere? Are they really certified? Are they a Chinese Company? How do you find an authorized installer if you do not want to do yourself
There are 3 organizations that certify water treatment products to NSF/ANSI standards:
NSF
WQA
IAPMO
This unit has been certified by IAPMO:
NSF/ANSI 42 pld.iapmo.org/file_info.asp?file_no=0014301
NSF/ANSI 53 pld.iapmo.org/file_info.asp?file_no=0013976
NSF/ANSI 58 pld.iapmo.org/file_info.asp?file_no=0013976
Would this work for a whole house system?
Do you mean
1) Installing this for use as a whole house treatment system?
OR
2) Using this in conjunction with a whole house system?
Really informative video. Will this RO system work for city water that is hard water, lots of the white type mineral scale....thank you.
Yes, as long as the TDS is
@@waterfilterguru thank you so much
Hey man thanks for the video! Could you just share the links of the databases to check if the companies are really certified?
Sure thing! Keep in mind certifications often list the parent company, rather than the brand you might be searching for.
For example, when searching the databases for 'waterdrop' nothing was showing up until I figured out Waterdrop is the brand, but Ecolife Technologies is the parent company that holds the certifications.
Let the fun begin 😉
WQA wqa.org/find-products/
NSF info.nsf.org/certified/dwtu/
IAPMO pld.iapmo.org/
How long do that filters last
CF filter ~6 months
CB filter ~12 months
RO membrane 2 years
Remineralization filter 9-12 months
Does the Gp3600 do the same quality treatment as the gp3800? I realize it is only rated for 600gpd but wanted to know if the water quality is just as good.
So I'm told, but I've not personally tested the G600 model.
How does this compare to their D6?
The D6 has just one filter cartridge that includes multiple stages of filtration while the G3 has separate filter cartridges for different stages. The D6 is capable of producing 600 gallons per day while the G3 can do either 600 or 600, depending on the model. The D6 has a 2:1 pure to reject water ratio, while the G3 is 3:1. The G3 has a UV stage as well
When will the lab results come in ?
In the works!
Test results live! ruclips.net/video/Ebm3ZLuEew4/видео.html
Please do a review of Multipure filtration systems. I can find none from an independent source.
We'll look into them, thanks for your suggestion!
You should make a short on how you did the PVC drilling. That looks interesting
Great idea!
@@waterfilterguru You should do a video on harmful plastics that contain phalates and BPA, and specifically how to avoid them by not using PVC.
@@firexgodx980 Great idea! Thank you
I am looking at buying a filter called Water Drop and wonder if you could review that, please.
Waterdrop is a brand and they have many types of filters (including the one in this video). Which are you looking at?
Hello! When will you be posting the video with the lab results? Everyone's waiting for that. I'm interested in buying the system but I would love to see the results first. Thanks.
Yes, we actually asked Simplelab to clarify this and they did. They responded to a comment by Big Berkey Water Filters with an explanation from their science team
Test results live! ruclips.net/video/Ebm3ZLuEew4/видео.html
What are your thoughts on the Echo RO?
Never heard of it
have you tested/reviewed the k6?
Not yet
@@waterfilterguru ok, thanks. Hope it's in the pipeline!
I just went with the g3 600g
Im excited
Let me know what you think of it when it's installed and in use!
I have the waterdrop D6. Have you done any testing on that?
Not yet, but we'll be testing a G3 model soon!
How does this compare to Kinetico?
We haven't tested a Kinetico system, so it would be difficult to draw a direct comparison until we do so!
Im very grateful for your channel ❤
Glad to hear it! Thanks for watching
Have you tried Kinetico K5?
Not yet, it's on the list!
@@waterfilterguru cool!
Hello, when will you upload a new video with lab test results? We are all very eager to see, how it compares to other systems. Thanks
Hopefully soon, we've had a slight setback we are working to address
Test results live! ruclips.net/video/Ebm3ZLuEew4/видео.html
Hey buddy, I have this one at my place as well, but I am super worried about the UV sterilizer. It is literally just hanging in the middle and I worried that the in/out tube through the UV sterilizer could get loose during the daily usage. Do you think this could be an actually problem or I am just too paranoid？
Probably not something to be concerned about. If it keeps bothering you, I'm sure there could be a way to use a bracket or similar to hold it to the wall under your sink
Ok, wait now, there's another claim that the most purified, cleanest uncontaminated water is coming from the "Atmospheric Water Generator", that can actually connect to a home replacing the water department. The WAG produces 1k gallons a day & PH level "balanced". I believe it's practically Alkaline as well. What do you think? Um, apparently 1 can place an order, have the device delivered to any country for 50k usd.
Exciting technology, I'm looking forward to testing one eventually!
Hello, I'm wondering if you may please do a test on the Frizzlife PD600-TAM3. I been using it for about 2 years, very happy with the water quality, specially that the TAM3 do Remineralization & Alkalization to PH 7.5. Now seeing this test, I'm wondering if the G3 P800 is similar or better. I would very much appreciate to see the testing results. You're welcome to come to my house to take the samples. I'm not trying to do advertising, and not associated or sponsored by them. I'm just concerned about my health. Thank you very much of what you do, knowledge is power. Keep it up.
I've got the Frizzlife PD600 added to our list, thanks for the request!
My issue is low water pressure. Tankless is the solution.
Right on, thanks for sharing
is this healthier then buying bottled water?
Absolutely! Bottled water has the potential to leach microplastics and other chemicals from the bottle itself, plus bottled water is regulated by the FDA (not the EPA) so the rules around testing are far less stringent. We are currently working on a big project to test many of the most popular bottled water brands to see what kinds of trace contaminants they contain!
Make sure you're subscribed so you get notified when we upload that video: www.youtube.com/@waterfilterguru?sub_confirmation=1
@@waterfilterguru and glas bottled water? are there only plastic bottled waters in your area?
@@johnmachter40 It all depends on the bottled water manufacturer. Bottled water is regulated by the FDA to much less strict guidelines than tap water which is regulated by the EPA. Best bet is to filter your own water at home, plus it's much more cost effective in the long term
Thanks for the great video, I am considering this to replace my existing tanked ro system.
I have a question about the faucet, how hard to replace the cartridge if it is leaking? Seems it is a unique faucet and if it could work with any drinking faucet.
The unit should only be used with the included dedicated faucet. If it's not, the warranty may be voided.
The filter cartridge replacements are easy - simple twist and pull/push.