For me if I had a metal detector, I would spend a couple of minutes to verify that there is no metal in the bark cuts, then I would be reasonably sure of not hitting a nail on the mill. If I detected metal in one of the bark cuts, then it would go into the burn pile without wasting any time in digging out hidden nails and at least I had verified that it was definitely scrap. Great video Wes thumbs up.
Invest in a metal detector, saves wood, saves blades. PS I watched you video to the end and heard your explanation about metal detecting vs time spent. I therefore retract my previous comment.
Wise move. Let someone else sharpen the blades. Have a nice Christmas. Tell the Wife and kids Merry Christmas also. We all have so much to be thankful for. God Bless.
Fully understand about the nails, nobody likes wastage, but neither do like messed up blades either, besides you gained two extra boards at the end. So ended quite well congratulations.
I agree with your logic. Firewood? Been meaning to ask about the black gentleman who helped you in prior video's. Is he well? If so, the two of you worked well together. Maybe we'll see him again. Happy holidays.
How is the solar kiln working? I just finished mine a month ago, getting ready to start a lead in the spring. I would love to see an update on yours. Thanks!
I have seen all the other mills I watch use just a drip of kerosine or diesel to clean the blade instead of water and it does a great job keeping the pine pitch off of everything just saying.
Hey Wes, Never had a mill, would love to one day. Just curious, saw blades are made for cutting metal...do saw mills offer such a blade? Wouldn't have to worry about nails in that case. Just a thought. Merry Christmas Brother.
Tooth size, angles, blade speed, etc and blade hardness are too different between steel cutting blades and wood cutting blades to be desirable to do that. You *could* cut wood with the steel cutting blade but speed especially would suffer a lot. The teeth would clog up badly among other issues. Plus the steel cutting blades are a lot more expensive.
@@andrewupson2987 Good Info my friend, makes sense. I wish this was an option, I see lots of these guys running into the same issue. Oh well, maybe one day huh. Take care.
Bite the log with the tips of the grapple, maybe 60% in 40% out. That way when you set it on mill you can roll grapple down and only the wood can contact the mill. Then open, less bounce. Good luck. Autocorrect changed "the" to "with", corrected.
You were wise to reserve the bark boards until you safely finished milling the main lot, thus you had a guaranteed yield plus the bonus of a revisit on the bark boards.
You are NOT lazy, in my humble opinion !! I've seen you in action for too long !! Where's your foreman - haven't see him in a while.......? Just love it when you're chatting together. He seems eager to learn - just give him time and he'll be working alongside you - Lord willing !!
Go ahead and cut through those little nails rather than wasting alot of board feet of that pine unless you have a use for flitches and waney boards. You can cut nails with a band mill if you push it gently by hand rather than counting on the hydraulics. Automation is overrated. If the nails wear out the blade, how much is a new or resharpened one. Can you swap out the blade in 15 minutes or less? There is more than$50 hiding in those flitches. Keep making sawdust, learn as you go🤠
Out of the Woods would love them knots. Dude, I'm confused. I know I've seen you use this mill where it's at but I thought that was your saw mill where your building the addition. I didn't realize you have two. Oh I forgot to say these are great videos like because I know you were trying saw some lumber for your project but you had to move that aside fill an order for a customer. That's great content. ❤
Thanks, Ray. It's the same mill. I have been working through a pile of logs at a friend's house off and on for a while. Trying to get it finished so I can get the mill home permanently.
You need a small handheld metal detector. Got the idea from Robert on Side Step Adventures. I think the one I got on Amazon was only $20-$30. It will tell you if there is metal inside your wood.
@@lialos he's trying to justify not getting a better metal detector. Truth is by cutting deeper hes not cutting risks. As he said, there might be nails deeper in there. Its all a toss up. If he was trully worried about not messing up a blade he wouldn't cut all.
Actually, I did watch the video to the end. I made my comment early on before he covered metal detection, my Bad. But on another note, Robert who I mentioned, was using the metal detector for repurposing (barn lumber) through a planer. Nails tend to destroy planer blades also. The detector worked very well for that purpose.
@@genecarr4568 I did the same thing with a handheld metal detector before I risked the knives on my power planet. But the cheap ones either detect only at the surface, or, if you raise the gain to get deeper, they’ll see metal doorframes or pocketknives or other things the other side of the board.
Awesome video! Ripping through dimensional lumber is so enjoyable. Hopefully your resharp is not as overloaded as ours in NY. They have been 5-6 week lead time all year.
Where do you stay at in Georgia hiliving Jacksonville Florida trying to find 1 by 12 the 12 can't get anybody to help me find any If you do not live too far
I’m glad you avoided those pesky nails in this video.I know they can really chew up a good blade quick. Thanks for sharing your videos with us and God bless!
Just an idea. Keep an old blade or a good blade that hit a nail and use them to explore the wood. I was raised during a time where people argued against waste. In the '70's, I use to go to a wood mill in New Mexico. For a dollar, we could take all the waste wood. These were big ponderosa pine with most wood over 3 feet in diameter. I took it home and made firewood for my parents.
Any metal ina log is a sawmillers worst nightmare. You got lucky. I had to remove a Walnut tree from my property and I wanted to give it to a coworker. He wouldn't take it because it was so close to my house he was afraid there would be nails in it. I ended uo cutting it into firewood.
I have seen at least one guy who puts logs on to saw up and the log is way too big for the mill. Then, he cuts a big chunk out of the log and just haggle it up so he can say that he cut a log that was way bigger than the mill calls for.
Look close around the 16:28 mark where the blade enters the cant. You'll see that I'm actually cutting a thin strip out from between the bottom board and the second board. That's because the 2" cut on that second board was measured from the top, and the 2" cut on the bottom board was measured from the bottom. The thin strip was just leftover waste. Hope that makes sense.
I don't sell much, but I like to get 80 cents usually. I sawed these for a friend who has been buying a lot of lumber for a cabin build, so the charge came to about 50 cents. $6 a board. I know, it's cheap, but the mill is paid for and this is basically a hobby for me. Not looking to retire off of it.
I can't watch you wast as much as you do what's your excuse for the second log there was boards in the first cut and I didn't watch any further I hate to eaven respond because you get credit towards the algorythem either way
I really enjoy watching anyone saw lumber who doesn't haggle the log up and waste lumber.
Deeper cuts = fewer hassles. Deep cuts = good wood pile slabs for burning. Deeper cuts really = no waste. Sometimes less is more.
For me if I had a metal detector, I would spend a couple of minutes to verify that there is no metal in the bark cuts, then I would be reasonably sure of not hitting a nail on the mill. If I detected metal in one of the bark cuts, then it would go into the burn pile without wasting any time in digging out hidden nails and at least I had verified that it was definitely scrap. Great video Wes thumbs up.
Invest in a metal detector, saves wood, saves blades. PS I watched you video to the end and heard your explanation about metal detecting vs time spent. I therefore retract my previous comment.
Wise move. Let someone else sharpen the blades. Have a nice Christmas. Tell the Wife and kids Merry Christmas also. We all have so much to be thankful for. God Bless.
Fully understand about the nails, nobody likes wastage, but neither do like messed up blades either, besides you gained two extra boards at the end. So ended quite well congratulations.
Nice lumber. Your client will be delighted.
Boy, that machine cuts nice and true and produces some good lumber for sure
I suggest that this guy saws the waist (with possible nails) until a blade is just about to be changed.
very nice lumber you're getting from those logs and they're long too!
I agree with your logic. Firewood? Been meaning to ask about the black gentleman who helped you in prior video's. Is he well? If so, the two of you worked well together. Maybe we'll see him again.
Happy holidays.
I miss Howard also
I don't hire Howard nearly as much as I used to. I saw him a few days ago, he's doing good. He's a great guy.
Board at the store have as many or more knots than those. Fine lumber!
How is the solar kiln working? I just finished mine a month ago, getting ready to start a lead in the spring. I would love to see an update on yours. Thanks!
I hope that log doesn't have covid.LOL🤣
I have seen all the other mills I watch use just a drip of kerosine or diesel to clean the blade instead of water and it does a great job keeping the pine pitch off of everything just saying.
Makes me want to mill lumber.👍
Thanks for all your videos, enjoy watching them. Wishing you and your a very Merry Christmas and a Blessed New Year. Cheers
Why don't you use a metal detector on your logs to find nails?
My exact thought. A few 2xs would offset the cost of a metal detector very quickly.
@@jdmmanbbs2kk Explained in video!!!!
Nice video. Merry Christmas to you, your family and Howard👍
Hey Wes,
Never had a mill, would love to one day. Just curious, saw blades are made for cutting metal...do saw mills offer such a blade? Wouldn't have to worry about nails in that case. Just a thought. Merry Christmas Brother.
Tooth size, angles, blade speed, etc and blade hardness are too different between steel cutting blades and wood cutting blades to be desirable to do that. You *could* cut wood with the steel cutting blade but speed especially would suffer a lot. The teeth would clog up badly among other issues. Plus the steel cutting blades are a lot more expensive.
@@andrewupson2987 Good Info my friend, makes sense. I wish this was an option, I see lots of these guys running into the same issue. Oh well, maybe one day huh. Take care.
Right now lumber is so expensive. Wonder when prices will go down. Excellent video as usual.
Be careful dropping the side supports down on tall cants.
I had one twist sideways from the cutting pressure - wrecked the blade, ruined the cant.
Real 2x6!
Hurray we're all for your side!!!👍 From Cadillac Michigan
Bite the log with the tips of the grapple, maybe 60% in 40% out. That way when you set it on mill you can roll grapple down and only the wood can contact the mill. Then open, less bounce. Good luck.
Autocorrect changed "the" to "with", corrected.
Someone put a posted sign in that first log.
Good stuff bud! Hope you had great holidays!🙏🎚🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
You were wise to reserve the bark boards until you safely finished milling the main lot, thus you had a guaranteed yield plus the bonus of a revisit on the bark boards.
Wes, You lazy? I think not. I'm shocked!
You are NOT lazy, in my humble opinion !! I've seen you in action for too long !! Where's your foreman - haven't see him in a while.......? Just love it when you're chatting together. He seems eager to learn - just give him time and he'll be working alongside you - Lord willing !!
Go ahead and cut through those little nails rather than wasting alot of board feet of that pine unless you have a use for flitches and waney boards. You can cut nails with a band mill if you push it gently by hand rather than counting on the hydraulics. Automation is overrated. If the nails wear out the blade, how much is a new or resharpened one. Can you swap out the blade in 15 minutes or less? There is more than$50 hiding in those flitches. Keep making sawdust, learn as you go🤠
wow the wood is amazing healthy and successful greetings always from Indonesian wood workers
I have hit nails 6 inches deep in trees ...and the log dogs and bed clamps....if there's a band saw milling screw up I've probably done it. 😎
If I found nails in my trees, I would not cut lumber from it.I would make it into fire wood instead., and chose a different log.
Great work! 🙃
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Out of the Woods would love them knots. Dude, I'm confused. I know I've seen you use this mill where it's at but I thought that was your saw mill where your building the addition. I didn't realize you have two. Oh I forgot to say these are great videos like because I know you were trying saw some lumber for your project but you had to move that aside fill an order for a customer. That's great content. ❤
Thanks, Ray. It's the same mill. I have been working through a pile of logs at a friend's house off and on for a while. Trying to get it finished so I can get the mill home permanently.
You need a small handheld metal detector. Got the idea from Robert on Side Step Adventures. I think the one I got on Amazon was only $20-$30. It will tell you if there is metal inside your wood.
I’m guessing you didn’t watch the whole video based on this comment.
@@lialos he's trying to justify not getting a better metal detector. Truth is by cutting deeper hes not cutting risks. As he said, there might be nails deeper in there. Its all a toss up. If he was trully worried about not messing up a blade he wouldn't cut all.
@@jdmmanbbs2kk - which doesn't change my comment that Gene clearly hadn't watched the whole video, since what he suggests was discussed in the video.
Actually, I did watch the video to the end. I made my comment early on before he covered metal detection, my Bad. But on another note, Robert who I mentioned, was using the metal detector for repurposing (barn lumber) through a planer. Nails tend to destroy planer blades also. The detector worked very well for that purpose.
@@genecarr4568 I did the same thing with a handheld metal detector before I risked the knives on my power planet. But the cheap ones either detect only at the surface, or, if you raise the gain to get deeper, they’ll see metal doorframes or pocketknives or other things the other side of the board.
Good job
Would a metal detector wand work at detecting hidden nails?
Your working your but off!
Literally, your looking trimm!
Have momma feed you a steak or 2.🙋👍
Keep them coming buddy!
Invest in a metal detector, saves wood, saves blades.
Anit you wasting alot of wood the way your doing that I don't know
When you change your oil do you put oil in the new filter before installing, we're do you find lithium grease?
Merry Christmas 🎅 🎄 to your family 👪
Good video! Just subscribed. Also trying to grow my channel as well.
how long since those trees had been cut down?
Awesome video! Ripping through dimensional lumber is so enjoyable. Hopefully your resharp is not as overloaded as ours in NY. They have been 5-6 week lead time all year.
@Fall Line Ridge - You still have some home projects before or after christmas? Stay safe and a peaceful time with your family.
Always love your approach, Wes! You acknowledge the challenges, but you never let them get you down! 👍💪
Where do you stay at in Georgia hiliving Jacksonville Florida trying to find 1 by 12 the 12 can't get anybody to help me find any If you do not live too far
I pulled the trigger on the woodmizer sharpener and setter, game changer at my mill!
I’m glad you avoided those pesky nails in this video.I know they can really chew up a good blade quick. Thanks for sharing your videos with us and God bless!
Just an idea. Keep an old blade or a good blade that hit a nail and use them to explore the wood. I was raised during a time where people argued against waste. In the '70's, I use to go to a wood mill in New Mexico. For a dollar, we could take all the waste wood. These were big ponderosa pine with most wood over 3 feet in diameter. I took it home and made firewood for my parents.
Any metal ina log is a sawmillers worst nightmare. You got lucky. I had to remove a Walnut tree from my property and I wanted to give it to a coworker. He wouldn't take it because it was so close to my house he was afraid there would be nails in it. I ended uo cutting it into firewood.
Great video Wes! Some nice boards from those logs - real decent length too. Seasonal greetings to the family from UK - stay safe & well! 👍👍
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I need some grapple bucket bad makes it so much easier.
It's the best thing ever.
What is the bearing on the end of the log stop?they must roll easily.I see them on a lot of sawmills.thanks rq
What the hell were you doing out wearing a mask, good lord son
Saw Dust!!!!
I have seen at least one guy who puts logs on to saw up and the log is way too big for the mill. Then, he cuts a big chunk out of the log and just haggle it up so he can say that he cut a log that was way bigger than the mill calls for.
They would make good above ground garden beds (raised beds)
Half that log was wasted
Make firewood out of the thick waste. Or flinding
The logs are round so why didn't you cut all the way around the log?
Good work. Thanks
Nicely done 👍👍👍Thanks for sharing
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Thanks for your lesson, it really not worth the time to gamble on the nails.
Time to upgrade to a hydraulic mill..
What a nice result from those ugly logs!
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👍Nice job 👍 Merry Christmas
Good video! Maybe it'll help if you don't call it waste, instead call it future organic soil enhancer or something. 😀
Oh good idea! You must work in marketing.
I call it fire wood!!
On the other side it's fire wood to burn.
At the 16.38 mark you can clearly see that you had 4 boards there why were you running saw through again?
Look close around the 16:28 mark where the blade enters the cant. You'll see that I'm actually cutting a thin strip out from between the bottom board and the second board. That's because the 2" cut on that second board was measured from the top, and the 2" cut on the bottom board was measured from the bottom. The thin strip was just leftover waste. Hope that makes sense.
What do you do with all the sawdust?
What happen to the sidekick that helped you build the shed for your Wood Mizer?
Howard? He's still around, but I don't hire him nearly as often as I used to. I saw him a couple of days ago, he's doing good.
I thought you built a shed for your mill, why are you doing it all outdoors now?
He uses it as a portable to help the lot clearing guy.
First, I've seen you with a mask for dust on.
Worn in a lot of videos!!!
How many hours do you have on that mill?
No idea...I actually bought an hour meter but never installed it.
You could make fire wood out of the junk lumber.
Only really good for campfires. Pine messes up chimneys with creosote.
What is your average charge per board foot?
I don't sell much, but I like to get 80 cents usually. I sawed these for a friend who has been buying a lot of lumber for a cabin build, so the charge came to about 50 cents. $6 a board. I know, it's cheap, but the mill is paid for and this is basically a hobby for me. Not looking to retire off of it.
I can't watch you wast as much as you do what's your excuse for the second log there was boards in the first cut and I didn't watch any further I hate to eaven respond because you get credit towards the algorythem either way
He put the second one back on and cut it down.
Thanks for watching Bill. Ended up putting that thick cut back on and got 2 boards out of it. Check out the video from 17:32 onward.
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Hell give a guy a job ?