Madonna is at 250 millions EAS, Michael is at 340 EAS, but it’s true that Michael has been around longer than Madonna did and he had its biggest hit (Thriller) before Madonna’s debut… also, Michael’s sales went up after his death while Madonna is still there touring… btw Madonna did incredibly well, especially considering that she is a woman and that she was the first woman ever to rival the men in the mainstream, prompting the music industry to bet more on women… she started out being a ballerina in NY with little to no money and she ended up being the best selling artist of the 80s alongside Michael, practically creating the “job” for the future female popstars… since then she faced misogyny, slutshaming and ageism throughout her entire career, and she’s still doing it to these days… not to mention how much she fought for lgbt and women’s rights long before it became normal to do so… she’s definitely an icon just as much as Michael… and that’s why even if one day she might be outsold by newer artists (like perhaps Taylor), her legacy as the original, the one and only Queen of Pop will forever be untouchable
@@nikosgr9290 I find this argument odd because releasing an album doesn't necessarily mean that people will buy it (as evidenced by MJ and M's lowest selling albums). Part of the reason MJ didn't release more studio albums was because he promoted them for far longer than M did, with seven or eight singles over the course of three years compared to three or four singles across one year. So they sold more over the long-haul. Madonna also has a 30M+ selling greatest hits compilation that significantly cannibalized her sales, whereas MJ's biggest hits collection (HIStory) is included here. There's no doubt that MJ was the bigger seller either way though.
@@FindingMadonna I get your point, but the no of albums was a response to the years michael had been on compared to madonna, which is an odd thing to say too. The no of singles they released was also an indication of how succesful they were and the fact that they had too many potential singles in it, but the gap between albums was also down to how long each artist took to prepare an album.
Incorrect. The title says "album sales," yet greatest hits and soundtracks have been excluded. For instance, Madonna's Immaculate Collection was a massive hit for her. this would have been far more interesting if all albums were included.
the Immaculate collection is counted is counted as an lp or other long play and is then distributed to each album that had the most impact on the sales of the compilation album.
If we put the Immaculate collection on this chart, we would be immensely reducing the sales of the other albums. For example, like a virgin album would have 14 mil. less sales if we took into account the immaculate collection as a standalone project.
am i the only one to think it’s sad that many people’s sales raise up after their death? like, give them the praise they deserve while they’re still with us…
@@robinlambregts4666yes it did it was even confirmed by the mj estate and his family it was even put up at thriller night a event hosted by the Jackson family proving he sold over 120 million copies worldwide so keep keep being jealous all you want to but thriller still sold that much wether you like it or not
@@fadgaola Hi, for Elvis maybe in the US or a few decades ago but as a french in my 20s I can tell you that here madonna is a 1000 times more famous than him. For Lady Gaga, that’s what you think and Madonna influenced her a lot. Anyways both queens and Elvis king !
I know your comment is kinda old now but what Greatest hits for Michael were there. Unless you think history is a greatest hit it is not. It’s just a duel album so the first 15 songs are old but the other 15 are the album songs.
Michael Jackson in the 1970s Motown years: The Calm Before The Storm. Michael Jackson at 1979 and beyond: *DOMINATION.* But Madonna held her own with Mike. She put out more albums than he did in his adult solo career. And adding them all up she can rival his sales prominence. Which is why she's the Queen of Pop. But there's a REASON why Michael Jackson was the UNDISPUTED King of Pop & this chart showed it right here.
Regarding the number of albums, yes she was more prolific, but he promoted his albums for far longer. She spent at most a year with three, four, or fives singles. MJ worked his albums for two to three years with up to eight singles. If M had released half the number of albums but promoted them the way MJ did, I think her numbers wouldn't be a whole lot less than they currently are. Either way, they both used different strategies and both worked for them.
For the jealous haters in the comments saying thriller didn’t sell 121 million copies worldwide when it was literally confirmed by the MJ estate and his family and at thriller night a event hosted by the jackson family they put up proof of thriller selling over 121 million copies worldwide and it was a plaque showing it so keep being jealous haters all you want it still sold that much
They say it sold 70million certified units. It's about the certified markets which are about 40 countries as I think. 120 million are the total in all the markets like more than 100 countries but most of these countries aren't certified . Sorry for my English. I'm still learning and trying to reach B2
Not be rude I’m genuinely confused Because if your talking about history for Michael Jackson with about 32 million sales that’s a real album with You are not alone being the first single to debut number 1 on billboard.
@@joelniviere1084 It's not just pure album sales. It's EAS a.k.a. equivalent album sales. It's album + singles sales in all formats ( whether it's physical, digital or streaming ) taken into consideration and compiled into equivalent album sales to show how much sales come from these albums. So yes, it's 120M+. 70M is just pure album sales.
@@JDUCSUDMU38948yes it has it was confirmed by the mj estate and Michaels family even at thriller night a event hosted by the jackson family they put it up showing thriller sold over 120 million copies worldwide with proof of it
@@naurking5388 yes there is there’s a plaque showing it that the Jackson family put out for thriller night and the mj estate announced it on Instagram also if you go to any legit chart it will tell you the same thing it sold over 121 million copies worldwide
@@ottoask9151 yes it did there’s even a plaque that shows it that the Jackson family put up for thriller night and Michaels estate and family even confirmed it so let’s not be Jealous haters 😊
@@nikolas_1982no it sold over 120 million copies worldwide in mostly pure sales and digital sales streaming sales do not count with pure and digital sales plus if we counted streaming with it it would be over 3 billion since it sold that much on Spotify and it has billions of streams on pandora and music so no streaming isn’t included and the mj estate has even confirmed themselves thriller sold over 120 million copies worldwide
The king and the Queen of Pop
Madonna is at 250 millions EAS, Michael is at 340 EAS, but it’s true that Michael has been around longer than Madonna did and he had its biggest hit (Thriller) before Madonna’s debut… also, Michael’s sales went up after his death while Madonna is still there touring… btw Madonna did incredibly well, especially considering that she is a woman and that she was the first woman ever to rival the men in the mainstream, prompting the music industry to bet more on women… she started out being a ballerina in NY with little to no money and she ended up being the best selling artist of the 80s alongside Michael, practically creating the “job” for the future female popstars… since then she faced misogyny, slutshaming and ageism throughout her entire career, and she’s still doing it to these days… not to mention how much she fought for lgbt and women’s rights long before it became normal to do so… she’s definitely an icon just as much as Michael… and that’s why even if one day she might be outsold by newer artists (like perhaps Taylor), her legacy as the original, the one and only Queen of Pop will forever be untouchable
on the other hand Madonna has released more albums than michael has...
@@nikosgr9290 I find this argument odd because releasing an album doesn't necessarily mean that people will buy it (as evidenced by MJ and M's lowest selling albums). Part of the reason MJ didn't release more studio albums was because he promoted them for far longer than M did, with seven or eight singles over the course of three years compared to three or four singles across one year. So they sold more over the long-haul. Madonna also has a 30M+ selling greatest hits compilation that significantly cannibalized her sales, whereas MJ's biggest hits collection (HIStory) is included here. There's no doubt that MJ was the bigger seller either way though.
@@FindingMadonna I get your point, but the no of albums was a response to the years michael had been on compared to madonna, which is an odd thing to say too. The no of singles they released was also an indication of how succesful they were and the fact that they had too many potential singles in it, but the gap between albums was also down to how long each artist took to prepare an album.
Incorrect. The title says "album sales," yet greatest hits and soundtracks have been excluded. For instance, Madonna's Immaculate Collection was a massive hit for her. this would have been far more interesting if all albums were included.
I was thinking the same! Didn't she sell 30 million plus?
the Immaculate collection is counted is counted as an lp or other long play and is then distributed to each album that had the most impact on the sales of the compilation album.
If we put the Immaculate collection on this chart, we would be immensely reducing the sales of the other albums. For example, like a virgin album would have 14 mil. less sales if we took into account the immaculate collection as a standalone project.
@@RedRed-bx4ct 14M lol. Not a chance. LAV sold 10M+ in the US alone all on its own.
Nah, should do that on a list for Madonna and MJ separately. Studio albums are perfect for this sort of comparison.
By not including a diamond certified album like The Immaculate Collection, this makes this list null and void.
thriller selling more than a respected and successful mainstream artist entire discography is just insane
Even like 10-20 twenty million album sales is alot
Taylor Swift and Ariana cries on the corner
@@Honeymoonstanno one not even elivs the Beatles can outsell mj
am i the only one to think it’s sad that many people’s sales raise up after their death? like, give them the praise they deserve while they’re still with us…
yes😞😞😞
Just saw Madonna on “The Celebration Tour “ the show is outstanding she is a Icon for a reason
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
Damn Micheal Jackson is on a whole other level with thriller
Thriller did not sell that much
@@robinlambregts4666still the most selling album of all time
@@robinlambregts4666yes it did it was even confirmed by the mj estate and his family it was even put up at thriller night a event hosted by the Jackson family proving he sold over 120 million copies worldwide so keep keep being jealous all you want to but thriller still sold that much wether you like it or not
the 2 most talented and famous artists of all time
elvis is definitely more famous than madonna + lady gaga is more talented than madonna
@@fadgaola Hi, for Elvis maybe in the US or a few decades ago but as a french in my 20s I can tell you that here madonna is a 1000 times more famous than him. For Lady Gaga, that’s what you think and Madonna influenced her a lot. Anyways both queens and Elvis king !
How come Madonna's "Immaculate Collection" album is not on the list?
Why did you include HIS greatest hits but not hers..THE IMMACULATE COLLECTION would have definitely evened it out a bit.
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I know your comment is kinda old now but what Greatest hits for Michael were there. Unless you think history is a greatest hit it is not. It’s just a duel album so the first 15 songs are old but the other 15 are the album songs.
Michael Jackson in the 1970s Motown years: The Calm Before The Storm.
Michael Jackson at 1979 and beyond: *DOMINATION.*
But Madonna held her own with Mike. She put out more albums than he did in his adult solo career.
And adding them all up she can rival his sales prominence. Which is why she's the Queen of Pop.
But there's a REASON why Michael Jackson was the UNDISPUTED King of Pop & this chart showed it right here.
Regarding the number of albums, yes she was more prolific, but he promoted his albums for far longer. She spent at most a year with three, four, or fives singles. MJ worked his albums for two to three years with up to eight singles. If M had released half the number of albums but promoted them the way MJ did, I think her numbers wouldn't be a whole lot less than they currently are. Either way, they both used different strategies and both worked for them.
For the jealous haters in the comments saying thriller didn’t sell 121 million copies worldwide when it was literally confirmed by the MJ estate and his family and at thriller night a event hosted by the jackson family they put up proof of thriller selling over 121 million copies worldwide and it was a plaque showing it so keep being jealous haters all you want it still sold that much
They say it sold 70million certified units. It's about the certified markets which are about 40 countries as I think.
120 million are the total in all the markets like more than 100 countries but most of these countries aren't certified .
Sorry for my English. I'm still learning and trying to reach B2
If you included HIStory then you should have included The Immaculate Collection - its biased and unfair otherwise!
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Not be rude I’m genuinely confused Because if your talking about history for Michael Jackson with about 32 million sales that’s a real album with You are not alone being the first single to debut number 1 on billboard.
Reyes del pop👑🎶
Wheres the Immaculate Collection?
WE MISS YOU MICHAEL
King Michael 🤴🏽❤
You should do one about just madonna, with her greatest hits, soundtracks & EP's, that would be nice
Impressive
Micheal vs katy perry sales battle
There is no battle.
Thriller only has 65mil certified sales
That’s a damn lie thriller has sold over 120 million copies worldwide and it was confirmed by the mj estate and Michaels family
thriller ended all
120 MILLION HELLO?? 😭 i didn’t know thriller sold that much
it hasn’t been confirmed tho yet
it's the best-selling album worldwide.
because it's false!!! 70 million sales
@@joelniviere1084 It's not just pure album sales. It's EAS a.k.a. equivalent album sales. It's album + singles sales in all formats ( whether it's physical, digital or streaming ) taken into consideration and compiled into equivalent album sales to show how much sales come from these albums. So yes, it's 120M+. 70M is just pure album sales.
@@JDUCSUDMU38948yes it has it was confirmed by the mj estate and Michaels family even at thriller night a event hosted by the jackson family they put it up showing thriller sold over 120 million copies worldwide with proof of it
Queen Madonna 👸🏼
Madonna has compilation albums that sold many copies and are not included. Thriller didn't sell 120M
Yes it did and it was confirmed by the mj estate and his family
@@MJforevermoonwalkingthey're not any official source
@@naurking5388 yes there is there’s a plaque showing it that the Jackson family put out for thriller night and the mj estate announced it on Instagram also if you go to any legit chart it will tell you the same thing it sold over 121 million copies worldwide
@@MJforevermoonwalking no it didn't
@@ottoask9151 yes it did there’s even a plaque that shows it that the Jackson family put up for thriller night and Michaels estate and family even confirmed it so let’s not be Jealous haters 😊
MJ Social Distancing😅
Madonna est la seule star féminine qui a pu se mesurer au King, après qu'on t'appelle the queen of the pop...❤
you should change the music of your videos. good videos
Can you make dua lipa Vs Rita ora please
do mj & ts
She would lose big time let’s not embarrass her like that
Nice job
Another two Ariana enders
thriller did NOT sell 120m lmao
Yes it did lol, it was also one of the top selling vinyl albums this year
@@MelaniexLanitaxNickistan no it didn’t it literally sold half of that but whatever keeps you sleep at night I guess
It has sold over 65 million albums, but the chart includes equivalent sales as well (Spotify etc)... @@MelaniexLanitaxNickistan
Yes it did even the MJ estate has confirmed it has
@@nikolas_1982no it sold over 120 million copies worldwide in mostly pure sales and digital sales streaming sales do not count with pure and digital sales plus if we counted streaming with it it would be over 3 billion since it sold that much on Spotify and it has billions of streams on pandora and music so no streaming isn’t included and the mj estate has even confirmed themselves thriller sold over 120 million copies worldwide
She’s still alive, he isn’t. Drugs are bad man.
he died because a medical doctor overdosed him, he wasn't doing drugs
Oh Ariana get off the floor
Houdini, don’t run away from the charts!
@@xitsJoqco_iix it’s rising though
guys, be quiet for now please, houdini video is coming)
@@purehero13please block Taylipa from viewing your channel.
@@crabiiiscool I’m his most active and fav commenter btw
Those 2 overrated artists. Ariana grande will sell more than them if she was in sales era. Who agree?
Nobody
Idiot
LMFAOOOO
no one agrees with any of this
let's see ariana grande dance like mj then