Thanks for the video. I have never used the Hasselblad Xpan to obtain a 24x65 aspect ratio on 35mm film. I have, however, used my Mamiya RB67 medium format SLR to obtain a 24x68 aspect ratio on 35mm film. I usually use a 50mm wide-angle lens or a 90mm normal lens on my RB67 to capture panoramic images. To load my 35mm film canisters in my 6x7cm film camera, I cut the ends off an empty 120 film spool and used those ends as spacers for my 35mm film canister in a RB67 220 film back. After capturing 20 panoramic images on a 36-exposure roll, I can rewind the 35mm film in a black bag in the field. However, after completing a roll, I usually remove the 220 back and simply replace it with a spare preloaded back and continue shooting. Either way, I take the exposed 35mm film home for development in the darkroom. After I develop the film, I have the option of including or excluding the sprocket holes from the image. One thing I like about my setup is that my RB67 does not rely on battery power like the Hasselblad and Fuji panoramic cameras.
Okey. Thanks for the input! My internal meter has worked well with 120 film, but sinse se blocked the prism by 1/2 with the mask, I Will try to overexpose the next roll by two stops, and check whit an external meter. Br Ronnie
Excellent. I like the 120 film leader to tape the 35mm film to as I have the 3D printed 35mm to 120mm for use with my Hasselblad. I'm encouraged to try it.
I've done it on mine and it's a massive pain. The film is the wrong thickness with no backing paper and it complaints, it's longer so A12 backs won't physically let you wind the full length (older backs are better but really be sure about taping up the porthole or you *will* get redscale spots). Plus the biggest thing, the film transport is vertical so you have to roll the camera 90 degrees or else shoot everything vertically....
Nice video, like this way to make panoramas. I used it on a Fujica GL690 giving 84mm wide images :-) A tip: I covered the end of the paper in tape before i used it the first time, that way I can more easily remove the attaching tape and reuse the paper.
Thanks Darryl! Yeah I've wondered about using it in my 645...but depending on the way the film travels you may need to rotate the camera to portrait, for shooting landscape. Also frame would be about 24x60mm which is not bad!
Hashem, nice work! I did something similar with the backing paper, but I skipped the 35 mm canister. I unreeled the 35 mm roll and taped it to the backing paper, respooled it, and shot as normal 120. Worked a treat. I really enjoy it.
Just found your channel. Glad i did. Great shots! Do you have. A video on showing how you adjusted the paper to the 35mm. Thank you. And thanks for posting!
One of my favorites, 😻 now I really want a Pentax 67. I would love to see a more in-depth tutorial on the panoramic kit diy. Again one of my favorites!👊🏾
Some great results there Hashem, especially how well framed that fisherman was, and you managed to get all the horizons straight ! I use a half frame mask in some medium format cameras to get 24 pano shots on a roll of 120, also works well.
@@samfalk7370 I've used a Lubtel, an Ondu and recently drilled a hole in an LCA-120 and put a red window in so I can wind to the half frame positions. The big circle on the backing paper normally.
Okay thanks! Sounds like a fun project. I'm looking for a way to do this with a professional camera like my RZ67, without the need of finding the ultra rare 24 exp. film back. But I guess that's quite a challenge.
Thank you for this video. This is exactly what I want to do. Recently, I've bought Pentax 67 (a.k.a, Bake-Pen= Bake is short for "Bakemono", Monster, for its size) and a few lenses + this 35mm film adapter. I don't have Okinawa-Shirts, but will wear (original) Magnum PI's Aloha shirts instead! Arigato!
I think I still have a roll still in my Argus with some FujiFilm 200 film grain! I should finish that roll! Hahahaha! Good looking image Hashem! So I attempted to buy the Pentax 6X7 body twice and both attempts after testing them myself and finding them both failed to read the film reel and the other not being able to shoot slower than 1/250 without the mirror locked up at 1/125! both having mechanical issues! Both with a price tag of $285-$600 and both claiming to have been tested by the seller. Looks like I won't be shooting the Pentax... Back to my reliable Hasselblad 501c! Hahaha! Great job my friend!
@@pushingfilm I may attempt a third time next year? I found a website that was claiming to have a Pentax to Hasselblad lens converter for my Pentax 105mm F2.4, which would have been a rad!!!! Again... This was not possible! Hahaha! BTW... Your latest video looked so much fun! I need to do another road trip to San Francisco California!
@@pushingfilm Yes, it's pretty humid here. 😬 Taipei was awesome, met up with Darryl and did exploring together. Would be great if you could join us next time. After Vietnam I'll be in Cambodia. 👌
I really like your shots. I actually planned to do the same thing but with a 6x6 camera, I think the frame will not be that wide on a 6x6 camera, but never mind I like this trick very much! :)
6x6 offers a 24x56 image, which isn’t panoramic but certainly “cinematic” as it almost exactly lines up with the 2.35:1 aspect ratio. It’s all about what you want to shoot and how your work is presented, I think shooting film has its advantages over digital in this respect, as if you are a videographer that also shoots images, your website could look very striking when everything is in the cinematic aspect ratio, stills from your videos, and even stand alone images taken on film.
thanks for sharing. I ve been planing to do that for a long time now. This is again a remember and encouragement. nicely done. you got a name for that conversion kit (well those two adapters for the spool) ?
No worries! I don't have a specific name and can't remember the seller anymore... But i just searched ebay for 35mm 120 adapters, or something like that and a few results show up
You may consider making a mask to insert on the film plane, my mamiya 6 has one with the panoramic adapter and it keeps the 35mm film flat and sharp from edge to edge. Keep up the good work!
Thank you for the video! I love panoramic photos and usually just crop to the format if want to. But I might as well try using 35mm with my Mamiya645. (My favorite photograph: 3:35
Genius Hashem, very creative and affordable set up. do you think this would work similarly well for a TLR or am I missing something? (Kinda new to this)
Hey! I'm not too sure! I guess you'd wanna examine it with the adaptors and do a mock load through to be sure. The other thing is the film might travel vertically, making it hard to compose horizontal shots (especially with a tlr)
Hi. I did try this on my Pentax 6x7 with the mask under the prisma and tried to adjust the ASA. But the pitures did came out underexposed. Did you use the lightmeter on your camera or did you use an external one? Br Ronnie
I just bought the adapter. Now i need to figure out how to convert my viewfinder into panoramic. Can you give us the exact measurement so we DIY ourselves using black cardboard etc ?
Did you ever make the vid on how to create the leader? I would love how to make it and know the specs on how long the learner needs to be. If dm is better on insta let me know.
I kinda just did some (bad) maths with the measurements. If you cut a 24mm high bar out of the middle of a 60x70mm paper, you can apply that ratio down to the size of the focusing screen and paper mask
Since I cannot go wider than I already can and I just shoot 120 film / generating ten 67 frames and then crop to suit the usage. Obvious advantages being no cutting and taping with the 35mm work around - and the option to work with the full 56mm x 67 mm frame in any manner you like, after the fact. I far prefer working with 120/220 film vs. 35mm in all phases- processing, wet enlargements and scanning.
Mainly becuase instead of getting 10 shots, you get almost double from a 35mm roll, so not wasting film. Also, allows you to use the larger variety of 35mm film stocks available. And since the adapters are really cheap these days, it's easily worthwhile imo.
Great video!
Thanks for the video.
I have never used the Hasselblad Xpan to obtain a 24x65 aspect ratio on 35mm film.
I have, however, used my Mamiya RB67 medium format SLR to obtain a 24x68 aspect ratio on 35mm film.
I usually use a 50mm wide-angle lens or a 90mm normal lens on my RB67 to capture panoramic images.
To load my 35mm film canisters in my 6x7cm film camera, I cut the ends off an empty 120 film spool and used those ends as spacers for my 35mm film canister in a RB67 220 film back. After capturing 20 panoramic images on a 36-exposure roll, I can rewind the 35mm film in a black bag in the field. However, after completing a roll, I usually remove the 220 back and simply replace it with a spare preloaded back and continue shooting. Either way, I take the exposed 35mm film home for development in the darkroom.
After I develop the film, I have the option of including or excluding the sprocket holes from the image.
One thing I like about my setup is that my RB67 does not rely on battery power like the Hasselblad and Fuji panoramic cameras.
Great video.
Definitely would like to see a short tutorial on the conversion kit.
Great experiment. probably on my list to try.
that is really cool. great video. really cool results
Thanks!
Okey. Thanks for the input! My internal meter has worked well with 120 film, but sinse se blocked the prism by 1/2 with the mask, I Will try to overexpose the next roll by two stops, and check whit an external meter. Br Ronnie
Excellent. I like the 120 film leader to tape the 35mm film to as I have the 3D printed 35mm to 120mm for use with my Hasselblad. I'm encouraged to try it.
I hope you do, and enjoy!
Hi Dashan, where did you get the 3D file for the 35mm / Hasselblad?
I've done it on mine and it's a massive pain. The film is the wrong thickness with no backing paper and it complaints, it's longer so A12 backs won't physically let you wind the full length (older backs are better but really be sure about taping up the porthole or you *will* get redscale spots). Plus the biggest thing, the film transport is vertical so you have to roll the camera 90 degrees or else shoot everything vertically....
Nice video, like this way to make panoramas. I used it on a Fujica GL690 giving 84mm wide images :-) A tip: I covered the end of the paper in tape before i used it the first time, that way I can more easily remove the attaching tape and reuse the paper.
Nice, good tip!
Great video Hashem, I have a 35mm back that came with my Mamiya 645 which I have never used!.....Will have to give it a try over the next few weeks.
Thanks Darryl! Yeah I've wondered about using it in my 645...but depending on the way the film travels you may need to rotate the camera to portrait, for shooting landscape. Also frame would be about 24x60mm which is not bad!
@@pushingfilm May have to learn to shoot my Mamiya on the the side !... Sadly the roll goes top to bottom :(
@@DarrylCarey yeah same thing with the Pentax 645 then!
Just stunning.
Hashem, nice work! I did something similar with the backing paper, but I skipped the 35 mm canister. I unreeled the 35 mm roll and taped it to the backing paper, respooled it, and shot as normal 120. Worked a treat. I really enjoy it.
Also, I cut the film out of the canister. I can load and unload in the daylight :D
I did this though my RZ67, and I don't have a 220 back for it, but that would be nice for the future.
That's a nice benefit, I guess you wouldn't even need the adaptors!
Great video🙂 I watched it couple of times 🙂 It'll be great to watch a video with adapter preparation 🙂
Agreed
My Xpan has to go in for repairs and I purchased one of those spools going to give it a go on the RZ67. Thank you subscribed
Loved it!! And the Okinawa shirt!! Cool to hear your thoughts behind the shots. Great light!
Thanks Alan!
Great vid. Excellent results
Simply awesome shots.
Very interesting must give it a try,would like to see the detail on your conversion,
Good timing on the video. I just ordered some adapters a few days ago.
Just found your channel. Glad i did. Great shots! Do you have. A video on showing how you adjusted the paper to the 35mm. Thank you. And thanks for posting!
Pretty kool! Always enjoy your videos man, keep up the good work!
Thanks Eddie!
Cool !!!!
The cloud shots are really beautiful, thanks for making this video. Gonna try the same lens/camera you used this weekend.
Have fun!
Appreciate being about to see someone actually do this...
Dude this is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks. Some awesome shots!
I was actually thinking about doing this but feared it may have back-focus issues! But your images are sharp so I'm going to try this. Thanks.
Yeah no issues there! Pressure plate seems to do. A good job keeping the film against the plane. There might be a slight lateral bowing if anything
@@pushingfilm This is great to know. Thanks!
Lovely shots.
Excellent video!!! Is a great idea for panorama shooters, because a Hasselblad X-pan is too expensive to get!!!
Yeah they're getting ridiculous in price!
One of my favorites, 😻 now I really want a Pentax 67. I would love to see a more in-depth tutorial on the panoramic kit diy. Again one of my favorites!👊🏾
great video!!!!! now I want to do this!! but now need to get a 120 camera ;)
Thank you for sharing this amazing experiment. Its really inspiring and is calling me to do some experimental work. Keep on it :) !!!
Hey man! Thanks for the comment, glad you enjoyed
Some great results there Hashem, especially how well framed that fisherman was, and you managed to get all the horizons straight ! I use a half frame mask in some medium format cameras to get 24 pano shots on a roll of 120, also works well.
With which cameras do you use this technique?
@@samfalk7370 I've used a Lubtel, an Ondu and recently drilled a hole in an LCA-120 and put a red window in so I can wind to the half frame positions. The big circle on the backing paper normally.
Okay thanks! Sounds like a fun project. I'm looking for a way to do this with a professional camera like my RZ67, without the need of finding the ultra rare 24 exp. film back. But I guess that's quite a challenge.
Love that cinematic kinda feeling! So many times I liked the shot and wanted to hit the like button but then realize I already did haha
Hahah thank you!
Thank you for this video. This is exactly what I want to do. Recently, I've bought Pentax 67 (a.k.a, Bake-Pen= Bake is short for "Bakemono", Monster, for its size) and a few lenses + this 35mm film adapter. I don't have Okinawa-Shirts, but will wear (original) Magnum PI's Aloha shirts instead! Arigato!
Thanks very much! I love that name "Bake-pen" hahah, I think I will occasionally call it that from now on. Good luck with your photos!
Well done video, Ive also shot 35mm film in my P67 , just a lot heavier than the Xpan
Thats for sure! 😅
Mateeee. I haven't watched it yet but I just bought adapters for this, stoked! Keen to see your results
I think I still have a roll still in my Argus with some FujiFilm 200 film grain! I should finish that roll! Hahahaha! Good looking image Hashem! So I attempted to buy the Pentax 6X7 body twice and both attempts after testing them myself and finding them both failed to read the film reel and the other not being able to shoot slower than 1/250 without the mirror locked up at 1/125! both having mechanical issues! Both with a price tag of $285-$600 and both claiming to have been tested by the seller. Looks like I won't be shooting the Pentax... Back to my reliable Hasselblad 501c! Hahaha! Great job my friend!
Ah damn! yeah they were workhorses and prone to a lot of wear and tear. Mine actually has a lot of quirks but it gets by
@@pushingfilm I may attempt a third time next year? I found a website that was claiming to have a Pentax to Hasselblad lens converter for my Pentax 105mm F2.4, which would have been a rad!!!! Again... This was not possible! Hahaha! BTW... Your latest video looked so much fun! I need to do another road trip to San Francisco California!
I am also sweating like a pig here in Vietnam. :D Awesome video Hashem!
Thanks Robin, hahah it sounds even worse there because it's probably way more humid. Have you left Taiwan already? what's next?
@@pushingfilm Yes, it's pretty humid here. 😬 Taipei was awesome, met up with Darryl and did exploring together. Would be great if you could join us next time. After Vietnam I'll be in Cambodia. 👌
Robin I think you was sweating more in Snake Alley!.... ha ha ha
kind of even better ratio. nice !
That's really cool. I love What you shot. :-D
And yes.. A tutorial would be lovely!
Thank you! It looks like there's enough request to do one 🙂
I really like your shots. I actually planned to do the same thing but with a 6x6 camera, I think the frame will not be that wide on a 6x6 camera, but never mind I like this trick very much! :)
6x6 offers a 24x56 image, which isn’t panoramic but certainly “cinematic” as it almost exactly lines up with the 2.35:1 aspect ratio. It’s all about what you want to shoot and how your work is presented, I think shooting film has its advantages over digital in this respect, as if you are a videographer that also shoots images, your website could look very striking when everything is in the cinematic aspect ratio, stills from your videos, and even stand alone images taken on film.
thanks for sharing. I ve been planing to do that for a long time now. This is again a remember and encouragement. nicely done. you got a name for that conversion kit (well those two adapters for the spool) ?
No worries! I don't have a specific name and can't remember the seller anymore... But i just searched ebay for 35mm 120 adapters, or something like that and a few results show up
Amazing video, please post on youtube how to paper leader!!! thanks!
You may consider making a mask to insert on the film plane, my mamiya 6 has one with the panoramic adapter and it keeps the 35mm film flat and sharp from edge to edge. Keep up the good work!
What’s that screen at got on top?
great!!!
i want to see how u make the extension where do i find the link :)
Thank you for the video! I love panoramic photos and usually just crop to the format if want to. But I might as well try using 35mm with my Mamiya645. (My favorite photograph: 3:35
Thinking the same thing, I wonder if the 120 film holder will work or if I need the 220?
Genius Hashem, very creative and affordable set up. do you think this would work similarly well for a TLR or am I missing something? (Kinda new to this)
Hey! I'm not too sure! I guess you'd wanna examine it with the adaptors and do a mock load through to be sure. The other thing is the film might travel vertically, making it hard to compose horizontal shots (especially with a tlr)
@@pushingfilm hmmm very true... Thanks for the reply!
Can you show/tell the measurements of the 120 paper back leader (thing) lol. Great video
Hi. I did try this on my Pentax 6x7 with the mask under the prisma and tried to adjust the ASA. But the pitures did came out underexposed. Did you use the lightmeter on your camera or did you use an external one? Br Ronnie
I used an external meter and/or sunny 16, the meter in my prism isn't very accurate
I like the fuel pump photo, in this case the panorama aspect ratio worked well.
I want to get a Pentax 6x7 now :)
They are fantastic cameras :-)
I just bought the adapter. Now i need to figure out how to convert my viewfinder into panoramic. Can you give us the exact measurement so we DIY ourselves using black cardboard etc ?
Hi, did you ever make a video on leader preparation?
Did you ever make the vid on how to create the leader? I would love how to make it and know the specs on how long the learner needs to be. If dm is better on insta let me know.
Nice photo! How long is the film lead?
How’d you figure out your framing?
Keen for the new Acros when it eventually comes!
Can you not get the original Acros? Picked up a few boxes of 120 while I was in Taiwan.
I kinda just did some (bad) maths with the measurements. If you cut a 24mm high bar out of the middle of a 60x70mm paper, you can apply that ratio down to the size of the focusing screen and paper mask
@@DarrylCarey yeah stock is starting to dry up in most places! I'm lucky I have a bunch of it saved in my fridge
Do you think I could do this with a 80mm lens on my Mamiya 645?
I think so! orientation of the photo might be an issue though depending on the direction the film travels
I got a Pentax 6x7 and aching to try this. I have only the 105mm F2.4 lens. Would this be ok? Or do I need a 45mm or 55 wide angle ?
I tried it with the 105, and it does work fine... you just need to be relatively far from your subject.
@@pushingfilm Got a 45mm lens anyway. Waiting to try it out! :)
Better than a Hasselblad pan which always shows vignetting.
How much of the 120 film do you use for the lead?
Sorry if I'm completely missing the point on this, but how is this better than shooting 120 and cropping?
Is it possible to make it 24x65?
The frame comes out about 24x70mm
@@pushingfilm but is it possible to make it 24x65?)
@@filminrussia7095 yes, you'd just mask or crop a bit more off the sides!
please make a tutorial video, please please please
Since I cannot go wider than I already can and I just shoot 120 film / generating ten 67 frames and then crop to suit the usage. Obvious advantages being no cutting and taping with the 35mm work around - and the option to work with the full 56mm x 67 mm frame in any manner you like, after the fact. I far prefer working with 120/220 film vs. 35mm in all phases- processing, wet enlargements and scanning.
Why not just shoot 120 as normal and then crop to Panoramic in post ?
Mainly becuase instead of getting 10 shots, you get almost double from a 35mm roll, so not wasting film. Also, allows you to use the larger variety of 35mm film stocks available. And since the adapters are really cheap these days, it's easily worthwhile imo.
It is NOT the same thing as shootion withan xpan!...the perspective is not the same.
That's true, but I only said it's an alternative. It's actually a slightly slightly wider frame at 24x70mm
Pshhh who needs a xpan anyway ?
Why in the World would you want to shoot 35mm in a medium format camera ?!
1. Sprockets
2 Panorama Format
3. Sometimes it's just cool to try something different and experimental